UFO shape shift....is it just me?

kittynh · 30th July 2009, 09:42 AM

I've been getting a ton of triangle shaped UFO questions recently (via the expert sites and badalien.org). I wonder if it is just me, or is there a real shift from the saucer shape to the triangle shape. My guess is this started with the Arizona lights (flares dropped from planes) that was captured on video. It was pretty dramatic video, and a lot of people have never accepted the explaination (in fact the well proven over and over explaination).

Plus I think that there are planes that resemble large triangles (as I'm learning via my other thread here) that don't behave like a normal plane the average person would fly on (longer take off times, different sound). This gives people something concrete to build off of. Though will anyone remember to PLEASE pull out their camera phone and take even a bad photograph?

Anyway, is it just ME, or is this a real trend that anyone else has noticed?

Thomas · 30th July 2009, 09:56 AM

According to wiki..

"Unknown to many, triangular-shaped UFOs have been reported since the 1940s. Accounts of flying triangles, wedges, or boomerangs have increased dramatically since the 1990s."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_triangle_(UFO)

I wonder if these could be involved..

Hmmm..

Bikewer · 30th July 2009, 10:27 AM

I read an article (I think it was Skeptical Inquirer) about the changing shapes of commonly-reported UFOs (and aliens....) over the years.

They showed a 1930s-era pulp sci-fi magazine cover showing a large, spherical (and orange!) UFO menacing a couple in an automobile.
Not surprisingly, many of the early sightings were of round or spherical craft...

They had quite a menagerie of aliens, ranging from our X-Files type "grays" to big hairy guys who looked suspiciously like Chewbacca.

Astrophotographer · 30th July 2009, 10:41 AM

1. The Phoenix lights were not totally due to flares. The "V"/triangle was actually a formation of aircraft that flew over Arizona 1-2 hours before the flare videos. There is much confusion on this even today because the videos of the flares are the only thing shown or discussed in the media.

2. Massive triangle/V shaped UFOs pretty much started in the early 1980s. The events near the Hudson Valley are the wide-spread events that started this. The explanation offered for that one was a formation of ultralights as well as seeing aircraft in formation on other dates.

3. It is somewhat coincidental (maybe?) that the original Star Wars trilogy featured massive triangular shaped craft for the empire. I am not sure if that has any bearing but it might.

4. Any three lights in the sky form a triangle. If it is a plane, then the lights change shape as the craft banks away/towards the observer. If it is a formation of aircraft, there is going to be some shifting back and forth of the lights.

Starthinker · 30th July 2009, 12:11 PM

I'd like to see a big spikey ship, like in Close Encounters. Natures perfect shape is the egg but only Orkians seem to have those.

We should try an experiment and start reporting octogon shaped UFOs and see how long before the new shape starts showing up in the media.

Apology · 30th July 2009, 12:39 PM

I would attribute it to the shapes of the experimental military craft at the time of the reports. For instance, when the U-2 was in service, people reported cigar-shaped craft, and during the rush to build a round craft during/after WWII, people saw round UFOs. Of course, there was a sprinkling of other shapes being worked on other than cigar and circular, so that tends to explain the triangular reports as back as far as the 1940s, and of course the SR-71 and the B-2 explain the rash of new triangular reports from the late 70s through the present.

This is just my opinion, of course. I do have a link to this very interesting thread which posits the same theory, as well as many others. Some feel that it's strongly influenced by media as well. I think you'd be very interested:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread338733/pg1

Beerina · 31st July 2009, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Starthinker

I'd like to see a big spikey ship, like in Close Encounters. Natures perfect shape is the egg but only Orkians seem to have those.

Actual thought process with planned response, tongue in cheek: "I am unfamiliar with the Orkian people and their planet. Do you have mo..." -- oh wait. Nevermind.

Corsair 115 · 31st July 2009, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Starthinker

I'd like to see a big spikey ship, like in Close Encounters.

Or how about the wishbone-shaped craft from Alien?

I Ratant · 31st July 2009, 12:51 PM

Fiery chariots! The first UFOs.

kittynh · 31st July 2009, 07:05 PM

yeah thanks for the input, I'd like to do an article for badalien.

I think there ARE a lot of big "triangle" shapes out there (or lights where we can fill in the blanks and make a triangle). So there is some feedback for this, like if you look you might see this shape more than a typical disc shape.

Correa Neto · 31st July 2009, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by Bikewer

I read an article (I think it was Skeptical Inquirer) about the changing shapes of commonly-reported UFOs (and aliens....) over the years.

They showed a 1930s-era pulp sci-fi magazine cover showing a large, spherical (and orange!) UFO menacing a couple in an automobile.
Not surprisingly, many of the early sightings were of round or spherical craft...

They had quite a menagerie of aliens, ranging from our X-Files type "grays" to big hairy guys who looked suspiciously like Chewbacca.

Saucer-shaped aicraft in fiction can be traced further back in time...
Check "The Man Who Rocked the Earth"
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/19174
A disc (saucer or toroidal) atomic craft is described - atomic death ray included- and its from 1915.

I think its reasonably safe to say that UFO shapes changed with time, late XIX century, for example, cigar-shaped airships seemed to be predominant and this is acknowledged by a number of UFOlogists. Note, however, that Kenneth Arnold's classical sighting was of craft which could be classified as triangles (they only flew like saucers thrown over the water - http://www.debunker.com/arnold.html). That thing looks more like Horten flying wings IMHO (http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/horten.html) or a DH108 (http://www.aviastar.org/air/england/havilland_108.php) but I digress.

As for aliens, well, check this compilation of artistic renderings and drawings from alleged eyewitnesses I made some time ago. Most images were taken from UFOevidence.org. It must also be added that Brazilian UFOlogists claim there are at least 30 ET races visiting us based on "tipology" of UFOnaut descriptions (http://www.ufo.com.br/index.php?arqu...mp.php&id=3938).

I am really not sure if "grays" are the most commonly described, despite the claims of some UFOlogists. I may be wrong but I think some cherry-picking is required to achieve this result... And yes, many sci-fi flicks and comics had gray-like aliens way before they became "common" in UFOlogy.
More on alleged aliens here:
http://www.theironskeptic.com/articl...on/fashion.htm
http://www.theironskeptic.com/articles/goofy/goofy.htm

kittynh · 31st July 2009, 08:28 PM

wow thanks, that's a great graphic....

gerdbonk · 31st July 2009, 08:33 PM

The Michelin Man? What did he step in?

blutoski · 1st August 2009, 08:12 PM

Related CSI conference: [UFOs: The Space-Age Mythology]

Description:

Quote:

For over 60 years the interpretation of “Things” in the sky has led to mythology about “Aliens” and their “Spacecraft.” These myths are fused with images from science fiction and enhanced by spiritual mysticism. Anomalous events in the sky are enlarged by anecdotal stories and conspiracy theories of “Space Gods” coming to earth for either salvation or destruction. Can “Lights in the Sky” really save us from the modern world? This workshop will consider these and other questions about the role of science and skepticism in evaluating extraordinary claims.

dropzone · 1st August 2009, 09:42 PM

It might be a stealth blimp. I'd tell a story but, since I still have a scrap of credibility here, I shan't.

Hamradioguy · 1st August 2009, 10:02 PM

Well, the "saucers" are round but the "formation" is V shaped- two sides of your triangle. These are the famous Lubbock Lights, and this goes way back to 1951.

kittynh · 2nd August 2009, 02:58 PM

oh I'd love to attend the CSI conference, sadly expenses won't stretch to that one...

Astrophotographer · 2nd August 2009, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Hamradioguy

Well, the "saucers" are round but the "formation" is V shaped- two sides of your triangle. These are the famous Lubbock Lights, and this goes way back to 1951.

The photograph is questioned by some. The lights were supposedly faint and hard to see. However, the photographer was able to readily record them on slow speed film.

Senex · 3rd August 2009, 01:14 PM

This is video of the most recent shape aliens are using.

biomorph · 3rd August 2009, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Thomas

According to wiki..

"Unknown to many, triangular-shaped UFOs have been reported since the 1940s. Accounts of flying triangles, wedges, or boomerangs have increased dramatically since the 1990s."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_triangle_(UFO)

I wonder if these could be involved..

http://www.product-reviews.net/wp-co...17-stealth.jpg

Hmmm..

um really?

from the wiki link you provided...

Quote:

enormous, totally silent, black triangular craft hovering or slowly cruising at low altitudes over cities and highways, usually at night and making no attempt to evade detection. The craft are even described by many observers as having some sort of "running lights", either bright white lights or pulsing colored lights.

not very "stealth(y)", perhaps either if, maybe the "hundreds of eye witnesses" reports are anywhere even near the mark.

however , technology moves on, of course.

biomorph · 3rd August 2009, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by dropzone

It might be a stealth blimp. I'd tell a story but, since I still have a scrap of credibility here, I shan't.

sez who? lol

c'mon, spill da beans, ...

Bikewer · 3rd August 2009, 02:06 PM

Gee...Jerry Pournelle wrote about those pachy-dermy aliens in Footfall. Who knew?

Soapy Sam · 4th August 2009, 10:16 AM

While delta winged aircraft do seem to be having a renaissance, they are hardly new.
Once, while camping in the Scottish Highlands, I was looking downhill from a mountain and was perplexed to see part of a hill apparently moving, when my brain finally recognised one of these.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Vulcan

It was probably around a mile away and totally silent from where I was. (I had a wind at my back). The upper fuselage camouflage was sufficiently good that I initially mistook it for a landslide.

Correa Neto · 4th August 2009, 10:46 AM

LTC8K6 · 4th August 2009, 11:28 AM

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Lockh...791/1153517/L/

Straight from the Skunk Works.

Some triangle shaped light photos can be the result of the aperture opening on a camera.

I Ratant · 4th August 2009, 11:38 AM

That particular IFO hasn't been seen "locally" in some years.

30th July 2009, 09:42 AM	#1
kittynh The Hupsu Detective auctioneer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: If I told the aliens could find me, and you know they read this forum Posts: 20,641	UFO shape shift....is it just me? I've been getting a ton of triangle shaped UFO questions recently (via the expert sites and badalien.org). I wonder if it is just me, or is there a real shift from the saucer shape to the triangle shape. My guess is this started with the Arizona lights (flares dropped from planes) that was captured on video. It was pretty dramatic video, and a lot of people have never accepted the explaination (in fact the well proven over and over explaination). Plus I think that there are planes that resemble large triangles (as I'm learning via my other thread here) that don't behave like a normal plane the average person would fly on (longer take off times, different sound). This gives people something concrete to build off of. Though will anyone remember to PLEASE pull out their camera phone and take even a bad photograph? Anyway, is it just ME, or is this a real trend that anyone else has noticed?
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30th July 2009, 09:56 AM	#2
Thomas Still in Doubt Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: A state of something rotten Posts: 1,563	According to wiki.. "Unknown to many, triangular-shaped UFOs have been reported since the 1940s. Accounts of flying triangles, wedges, or boomerangs have increased dramatically since the 1990s." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_triangle_(UFO) I wonder if these could be involved.. Hmmm..
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30th July 2009, 10:41 AM	#4
Astrophotographer Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Manchester, NH Posts: 1,362	1. The Phoenix lights were not totally due to flares. The "V"/triangle was actually a formation of aircraft that flew over Arizona 1-2 hours before the flare videos. There is much confusion on this even today because the videos of the flares are the only thing shown or discussed in the media. 2. Massive triangle/V shaped UFOs pretty much started in the early 1980s. The events near the Hudson Valley are the wide-spread events that started this. The explanation offered for that one was a formation of ultralights as well as seeing aircraft in formation on other dates. 3. It is somewhat coincidental (maybe?) that the original Star Wars trilogy featured massive triangular shaped craft for the empire. I am not sure if that has any bearing but it might. 4. Any three lights in the sky form a triangle. If it is a plane, then the lights change shape as the craft banks away/towards the observer. If it is a formation of aircraft, there is going to be some shifting back and forth of the lights.
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30th July 2009, 12:39 PM	#6
Apology Muse Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 917	I would attribute it to the shapes of the experimental military craft at the time of the reports. For instance, when the U-2 was in service, people reported cigar-shaped craft, and during the rush to build a round craft during/after WWII, people saw round UFOs. Of course, there was a sprinkling of other shapes being worked on other than cigar and circular, so that tends to explain the triangular reports as back as far as the 1940s, and of course the SR-71 and the B-2 explain the rash of new triangular reports from the late 70s through the present. This is just my opinion, of course. I do have a link to this very interesting thread which posits the same theory, as well as many others. Some feel that it's strongly influenced by media as well. I think you'd be very interested: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread338733/pg1
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30th July 2009, 10:27 AM	#3
Bikewer Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St. Louis, Mo. Posts: 5,249	I read an article (I think it was Skeptical Inquirer) about the changing shapes of commonly-reported UFOs (and aliens....) over the years. They showed a 1930s-era pulp sci-fi magazine cover showing a large, spherical (and orange!) UFO menacing a couple in an automobile. Not surprisingly, many of the early sightings were of round or spherical craft... They had quite a menagerie of aliens, ranging from our X-Files type "grays" to big hairy guys who looked suspiciously like Chewbacca.

31st July 2009, 11:33 AM	#7
Beerina Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: A floating island above the clouds Posts: 14,373	Originally Posted by Starthinker I'd like to see a big spikey ship, like in Close Encounters. Natures perfect shape is the egg but only Orkians seem to have those. Actual thought process with planned response, tongue in cheek: "I am unfamiliar with the Orkian people and their planet. Do you have mo..." -- oh wait. Nevermind.
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Corsair 115 Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 4,338	Originally Posted by Starthinker I'd like to see a big spikey ship, like in Close Encounters. Or how about the wishbone-shaped craft from Alien?
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31st July 2009, 12:51 PM	#9
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31st July 2009, 07:05 PM	#10
kittynh The Hupsu Detective auctioneer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: If I told the aliens could find me, and you know they read this forum Posts: 20,641	yeah thanks for the input, I'd like to do an article for badalien. I think there ARE a lot of big "triangle" shapes out there (or lights where we can fill in the blanks and make a triangle). So there is some feedback for this, like if you look you might see this shape more than a typical disc shape.
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31st July 2009, 07:59 PM	#11
Correa Neto Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Digging for Au somewhere in Brazil Posts: 5,092	Originally Posted by Bikewer I read an article (I think it was Skeptical Inquirer) about the changing shapes of commonly-reported UFOs (and aliens....) over the years. They showed a 1930s-era pulp sci-fi magazine cover showing a large, spherical (and orange!) UFO menacing a couple in an automobile. Not surprisingly, many of the early sightings were of round or spherical craft... They had quite a menagerie of aliens, ranging from our X-Files type "grays" to big hairy guys who looked suspiciously like Chewbacca. Saucer-shaped aicraft in fiction can be traced further back in time... Check "The Man Who Rocked the Earth" http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/19174 A disc (saucer or toroidal) atomic craft is described - atomic death ray included- and its from 1915. I think its reasonably safe to say that UFO shapes changed with time, late XIX century, for example, cigar-shaped airships seemed to be predominant and this is acknowledged by a number of UFOlogists. Note, however, that Kenneth Arnold's classical sighting was of craft which could be classified as triangles (they only flew like saucers thrown over the water - http://www.debunker.com/arnold.html). That thing looks more like Horten flying wings IMHO (http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/horten.html) or a DH108 (http://www.aviastar.org/air/england/havilland_108.php) but I digress. As for aliens, well, check this compilation of artistic renderings and drawings from alleged eyewitnesses I made some time ago. Most images were taken from UFOevidence.org. It must also be added that Brazilian UFOlogists claim there are at least 30 ET races visiting us based on "tipology" of UFOnaut descriptions (http://www.ufo.com.br/index.php?arqu...mp.php&id=3938). I am really not sure if "grays" are the most commonly described, despite the claims of some UFOlogists. I may be wrong but I think some cherry-picking is required to achieve this result... And yes, many sci-fi flicks and comics had gray-like aliens way before they became "common" in UFOlogy. More on alleged aliens here: http://www.theironskeptic.com/articl...on/fashion.htm http://www.theironskeptic.com/articles/goofy/goofy.htm
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31st July 2009, 08:28 PM	#12
kittynh The Hupsu Detective auctioneer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: If I told the aliens could find me, and you know they read this forum Posts: 20,641	wow thanks, that's a great graphic....
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31st July 2009, 08:33 PM	#13
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1st August 2009, 08:12 PM	#14
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1st August 2009, 09:42 PM	#15
dropzone Muse Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 684	It might be a stealth blimp. I'd tell a story but, since I still have a scrap of credibility here, I shan't.
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2nd August 2009, 02:58 PM	#17
kittynh The Hupsu Detective auctioneer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: If I told the aliens could find me, and you know they read this forum Posts: 20,641	oh I'd love to attend the CSI conference, sadly expenses won't stretch to that one...
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2nd August 2009, 06:07 PM	#18
Astrophotographer Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Manchester, NH Posts: 1,362	Originally Posted by Hamradioguy Well, the "saucers" are round but the "formation" is V shaped- two sides of your triangle. These are the famous Lubbock Lights, and this goes way back to 1951. The photograph is questioned by some. The lights were supposedly faint and hard to see. However, the photographer was able to readily record them on slow speed film.

3rd August 2009, 01:14 PM	#19
Senex Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: An autobody repair shop in Connecticut Posts: 1,835	This is video of the most recent shape aliens are using.
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3rd August 2009, 02:02 PM	#20
biomorph Muse Join Date: May 2007 Location: here, and sometimes elsewhere Posts: 643	Originally Posted by Thomas According to wiki.. "Unknown to many, triangular-shaped UFOs have been reported since the 1940s. Accounts of flying triangles, wedges, or boomerangs have increased dramatically since the 1990s." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_triangle_(UFO) I wonder if these could be involved.. http://www.product-reviews.net/wp-co...17-stealth.jpg Hmmm.. um really? from the wiki link you provided... Quote: enormous, totally silent, black triangular craft hovering or slowly cruising at low altitudes over cities and highways, usually at night and making no attempt to evade detection. The craft are even described by many observers as having some sort of "running lights", either bright white lights or pulsing colored lights. not very "stealth(y)", perhaps either if, maybe the "hundreds of eye witnesses" reports are anywhere even near the mark. however , technology moves on, of course.

3rd August 2009, 02:05 PM	#21
biomorph Muse Join Date: May 2007 Location: here, and sometimes elsewhere Posts: 643	Originally Posted by dropzone It might be a stealth blimp. I'd tell a story but, since I still have a scrap of credibility here, I shan't. sez who? lol c'mon, spill da beans, ...

3rd August 2009, 02:06 PM	#22
Bikewer Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St. Louis, Mo. Posts: 5,249	Gee...Jerry Pournelle wrote about those pachy-dermy aliens in Footfall. Who knew?

4th August 2009, 10:16 AM	#23
Soapy Sam NLH Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 18,092	While delta winged aircraft do seem to be having a renaissance, they are hardly new. Once, while camping in the Scottish Highlands, I was looking downhill from a mountain and was perplexed to see part of a hill apparently moving, when my brain finally recognised one of these. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Vulcan It was probably around a mile away and totally silent from where I was. (I had a wind at my back). The upper fuselage camouflage was sufficiently good that I initially mistook it for a landslide.
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4th August 2009, 10:46 AM	#24
Correa Neto Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Digging for Au somewhere in Brazil Posts: 5,092	For Americans, there are and there have been several triangular UFO candidates. Here are some of my favorites: The XB35 and YB49 flying wings. http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes...flying_wing.pl http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes...flying_wing.pl The XB70 Valkyrie http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/Photo/XB-70/index.html The B58 Hustler http://www.b-58hustler.com/ The F102 Delta Dagger and F106 Delta Dart http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes...elta_dagger.pl http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes..._delta_dart.pl There have been so many weird things on the air over USA... Here are some of them. Its no wonder people have been and are still claiming to be seeing alien craft. http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes...blique_wing.pl http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes/proteus.pl http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes/x-3_stiletto.pl http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes/x-15_hyper.pl http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes/x-29_fsw.pl http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes/x-45_ucav.pl http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes/martin_x-24.pl Yeah, yeah, there are also the B2, F117, SR72...
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4th August 2009, 11:28 AM	#25
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4th August 2009, 11:38 AM	#26
I Ratant Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,588	That particular IFO hasn't been seen "locally" in some years.
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