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Eyeron · 1st August 2009, 10:25 AM

I'd appreciate some help in regards to looking for resources that debunks the Zeitgeist films that say the Federal reserve is illegal and not run by our government.

I have a friend who just came across them and has been going on about them. I wish to present to him other views.

Longfellow · 1st August 2009, 11:06 AM

There's already a long thread about Zeitgeist here. I believe you will be able to find what you're looking for there.

grandthefttoaster · 1st August 2009, 12:50 PM

I highly recommend the site conspiracyscience.com. It debunks every claim from Zeitgeist, using a huge amount of sources. Skeptic magazine also wrote an article about Zeitgeist, but only part 1.

There are links to both of these sites on the wikipedia article for Zeitgeist. I know because I put them there.

GreNME · 1st August 2009, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Eyeron

I'd appreciate some help in regards to looking for resources that debunks the Zeitgeist films that say the Federal reserve is illegal and not run by our government.

I have a friend who just came across them and has been going on about them. I wish to present to him other views.

Use this brief summary for a short version history of the Federal Reserve system. Follow the links used as sources for more in-depth information. The Fed as we know it today is the third iteration and the system of central banking goes back to the 'Founding Fathers', which displays the lie in the Zeitgeist copy-pasting of Aaron Russo's nonsense.

Hourglassmemory · 2nd August 2009, 05:18 PM

A user from these forums called Edx is doing videos addressing specific points made in teh first film, focusing on the 2nd part, which addresses 9/11.
This is his page.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheSkept...t#play/uploads
Check it out from time to time because he's doing the videos right now. He's begun recently so we can expect more.

Travis · 3rd August 2009, 01:52 AM

First, verse yourself in reality. Then gorge on facts, stir in some "truth" and bake until the Zeitgeist is well and truly done (i.e. dead). Garnish with logic.

Subliminal · 4th August 2009, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Travis

First, verse yourself in reality. Then gorge on facts, stir in some "truth" and bake until the Zeitgeist is well and truly done (i.e. dead). Garnish with ignorance.

Sorry, had to correct you.

Travis · 4th August 2009, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Subliminal

Sorry, had to correct you.

Well, ignorance is what leads people to believing Zeitgeist.

arthwollipot · 4th August 2009, 06:52 PM

Here's another, written by my partner in crime, Jason:

http://non-sense.com.au/joomla/index...&id=7&Itemid=7

1st August 2009, 10:25 AM	#1
Eyeron Guest Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,774	Resources for Debunking Zeitgeist? I'd appreciate some help in regards to looking for resources that debunks the Zeitgeist films that say the Federal reserve is illegal and not run by our government. I have a friend who just came across them and has been going on about them. I wish to present to him other views.
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1st August 2009, 11:06 AM	#2
Longfellow St. Louis Cardinals Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Baseball Heaven Posts: 286	Been there -- done that There's already a long thread about Zeitgeist here. I believe you will be able to find what you're looking for there.
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1st August 2009, 12:50 PM	#3
grandthefttoaster Thinker Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 184	I highly recommend the site conspiracyscience.com. It debunks every claim from Zeitgeist, using a huge amount of sources. Skeptic magazine also wrote an article about Zeitgeist, but only part 1. There are links to both of these sites on the wikipedia article for Zeitgeist. I know because I put them there.
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1st August 2009, 04:10 PM	#4
GreNME Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 8,283	Originally Posted by Eyeron I'd appreciate some help in regards to looking for resources that debunks the Zeitgeist films that say the Federal reserve is illegal and not run by our government. I have a friend who just came across them and has been going on about them. I wish to present to him other views. Use this brief summary for a short version history of the Federal Reserve system. Follow the links used as sources for more in-depth information. The Fed as we know it today is the third iteration and the system of central banking goes back to the 'Founding Fathers', which displays the lie in the Zeitgeist copy-pasting of Aaron Russo's nonsense.
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3rd August 2009, 01:52 AM	#6
Travis Misanthrope of the Mountains Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tuolumne City, CA Posts: 18,106	First, verse yourself in reality. Then gorge on facts, stir in some "truth" and bake until the Zeitgeist is well and truly done (i.e. dead). Garnish with logic.
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2nd August 2009, 05:18 PM	#5
Hourglassmemory Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 315	A user from these forums called Edx is doing videos addressing specific points made in teh first film, focusing on the 2nd part, which addresses 9/11. This is his page. http://www.youtube.com/user/TheSkept...t#play/uploads Check it out from time to time because he's doing the videos right now. He's begun recently so we can expect more.

4th August 2009, 05:05 PM	#7
Subliminal Student Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35	Originally Posted by Travis First, verse yourself in reality. Then gorge on facts, stir in some "truth" and bake until the Zeitgeist is well and truly done (i.e. dead). Garnish with ignorance. Sorry, had to correct you.
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4th August 2009, 06:49 PM	#8
Travis Misanthrope of the Mountains Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tuolumne City, CA Posts: 18,106	Originally Posted by Subliminal Sorry, had to correct you. Well, ignorance is what leads people to believing Zeitgeist.
	__________________ "Because WE ARE IGNORANT OF 911 FACTS, WE DEMAND PROOF" -- Douglas Herman on Rense.com Zingiber Officinale The Humor blog of some not crazy guy

4th August 2009, 06:52 PM	#9
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The other side of your screen Posts: 43,253	Here's another, written by my partner in crime, Jason: http://non-sense.com.au/joomla/index...&id=7&Itemid=7
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