Map dowser

Azrael 5 · 3rd August 2009, 01:06 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUQ4j...layer_embedded

Was brought up in a thread on Scepcop. Michael Cook map dowser. Seems a long time ago but wondered if there was any more info on him. I would have thought getting a hit in front of Randi would have spurred him on.

rjh01 · 4th August 2009, 12:32 AM

This is not the only thread on the topic. See http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopi...11502&start=80 (warning. Clicking on this link without your tin foil hat on will reduce your IQ by 5 points)

Azrael 5's thread in google is number 1, debunkingskeptics is number 3 and my link is number 4

See also this link http://www.britishdowsers.org/forum/...&t=1364&p=6573

Quote:

I remember occasional references to dowsing on TV programmes but these were not really convincing to my mind - dowsing is not a spectator sport. I especially remember James Randi's Psychic Investigator series in which Michael Cook passed one of his tests only for Randi to poo-poo it the following week.

However the big question is where is he now? If he was any good he would have been famous. Since he is not famous his dowsing cannot be any better than chance.

arthwollipot · 4th August 2009, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by rjh01

If he was any good he would have been famous. Since he is not famous his dowsing cannot be any better than chance.

There's a logical fallacy in there somewhere, but I can't put my finger on it.

Sean84 · 4th August 2009, 01:43 AM

A man dowsed the grave site of Robert the Bruce with a map that had roads and was told that only one grid contained a cultural landmark... and he guessed at two of them. And he's a local???

I'm *********** astounded.

Old Bob · 4th August 2009, 05:28 AM

I find map dowsing a good guide, but need to walk the area to pin point things. Ok you can laugh now. Graves are easy to find.

richardm · 4th August 2009, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by Old Bob

Graves are easy to find.

The large stone things at one end tend to be a giveaway.

Old Bob · 4th August 2009, 01:45 PM

Good one .richardm

Sean84 · 5th August 2009, 03:34 AM

Bob's your uncle, Dick.

Careyp74 · 5th August 2009, 05:37 AM

Did Randi know where the landmark was? He could have given the position away.

"see, I swing this pendulum and ask the question, and look at Randi for any hints as to the squares. I got reactions from two of the squares, so I will keep doing it until I know for sure which one has the landmark"

rjh01 · 5th August 2009, 05:34 PM

That was my thought too. There is nothing in the video that says the answer is no, but Randi should know that this may ruin the experiment.

Wolrab · 5th August 2009, 06:06 PM

I like to work in more dimensions. I'm a globe dowser. The smaller the globe, the more accurate I am.

Starthinker · 6th August 2009, 08:29 AM

When I dowse for maps I usually find them in the glove box or old kitchen drawers.

I also dowse for the Earth and find it no matter where I am.

arthwollipot · 6th August 2009, 06:28 PM

I can dowse for oxygen.

3rd August 2009, 01:06 PM	#1
Azrael 5 Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Yorkshire,Uk Posts: 5,029	Map dowser http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUQ4j...layer_embedded Was brought up in a thread on Scepcop. Michael Cook map dowser. Seems a long time ago but wondered if there was any more info on him. I would have thought getting a hit in front of Randi would have spurred him on.
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4th August 2009, 12:37 AM	#3
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The other side of your screen Posts: 42,956	Originally Posted by rjh01 If he was any good he would have been famous. Since he is not famous his dowsing cannot be any better than chance. There's a logical fallacy in there somewhere, but I can't put my finger on it.
	__________________ Jadey (in RvB game thread): I just want to take a moment to commend Arth on his role as Parasitic Alien Tumor. I think he really connected with the character and there were times when I forgot that he was just acting. That's the kind of talent that you can't teach.

4th August 2009, 05:28 AM	#5
Old Bob Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 649	I find map dowsing a good guide, but need to walk the area to pin point things. Ok you can laugh now. Graves are easy to find.
Old Bob Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 649

4th August 2009, 05:51 AM	#6
richardm Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 9,270	Originally Posted by Old Bob Graves are easy to find. The large stone things at one end tend to be a giveaway.
richardm Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 9,270	__________________ Rimmer: Look at her! Magnificent woman! Very prim, very proper, almost austere. Some people took her for cold, thought she was aloof. Not a bit of it. She just despised fools. Quite tragic, really, because otherwise I think we'd have got on famously.

4th August 2009, 01:45 PM	#7
Old Bob Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 649	Good one .richardm
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4th August 2009, 12:32 AM	#2
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 17,163	This is not the only thread on the topic. See http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopi...11502&start=80 (warning. Clicking on this link without your tin foil hat on will reduce your IQ by 5 points) Azrael 5's thread in google is number 1, debunkingskeptics is number 3 and my link is number 4 See also this link http://www.britishdowsers.org/forum/...&t=1364&p=6573 Quote: I remember occasional references to dowsing on TV programmes but these were not really convincing to my mind - dowsing is not a spectator sport. I especially remember James Randi's Psychic Investigator series in which Michael Cook passed one of his tests only for Randi to poo-poo it the following week. However the big question is where is he now? If he was any good he would have been famous. Since he is not famous his dowsing cannot be any better than chance.

4th August 2009, 01:43 AM	#4
Sean84 Muse Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 969	A man dowsed the grave site of Robert the Bruce with a map that had roads and was told that only one grid contained a cultural landmark... and he guessed at two of them. And he's a local??? I'm *********** astounded.

5th August 2009, 03:34 AM	#8
Sean84 Muse Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 969	Bob's your uncle, Dick.

5th August 2009, 05:37 AM	#9
Careyp74 Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Trevose, PA Posts: 3,407	Did Randi know where the landmark was? He could have given the position away. "see, I swing this pendulum and ask the question, and look at Randi for any hints as to the squares. I got reactions from two of the squares, so I will keep doing it until I know for sure which one has the landmark"

5th August 2009, 05:34 PM	#10
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 17,163	That was my thought too. There is nothing in the video that says the answer is no, but Randi should know that this may ruin the experiment.

5th August 2009, 06:06 PM	#11
Wolrab Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Beautiful Finger Lakes Posts: 1,706	I like to work in more dimensions. I'm a globe dowser. The smaller the globe, the more accurate I am.

6th August 2009, 08:29 AM	#12
Starthinker Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 5,014	When I dowse for maps I usually find them in the glove box or old kitchen drawers. I also dowse for the Earth and find it no matter where I am.
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6th August 2009, 06:28 PM	#13
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The other side of your screen Posts: 42,956	I can dowse for oxygen.
	__________________ Jadey (in RvB game thread): I just want to take a moment to commend Arth on his role as Parasitic Alien Tumor. I think he really connected with the character and there were times when I forgot that he was just acting. That's the kind of talent that you can't teach.