Obama & Co = Warmongers

MichaelLWagner · 8th August 2009, 02:09 PM

+ A junkyard solution to IEDs / Christian Science Monitor:

--"Army mechanics have jury-rigged a minesweeper in Afghanistan, where roadside bombs have killed five recently."

+ UNITED STATES CAUGHT IN IRAQ CAR-BOMBING / Free-Market News Network, Corp. (FMNN):

--“This time it is the Americans captured in the act of setting off a car bomb in Baghdad. Last time ... two British soldiers ... were caught ..."

“... 'A number of Iraqis apprehended two Americans disguised in Arab dress ... they looked suspicious so they detained the men ... Just as in the British incident ... the two men were removed from Iraq custody and wisked away before any questioning could take place.”

+ Who is behind the car bombings in Baghdad? / Antomy Loewenstein:

--“... the Americans … gave him a mobile phone and told him to drive into a crowded area near a mosque and phone them. ... he got out of the car to where he received a better signal. Then his car blew up.”

“… an Iraq interpreter ... got suspicious because the Americans called him every now and then asking him if he’s already in the market. He parked the car in the middle of nowhere and answered yes; a few minutes after that the car exploded.”

+ Afghan Guards Confound U.S. Forces / Wall Street Journal:

--"... there have been at least three significant firefights between American forces and Afghan guards in recent months, and a host of other violent incidents. ... some guards take orders from the Taliban or drug gangs. ... 'They recruit former fighters who answer to the Taliban, and they recruit criminals.' ... many of the guards have more powerful weapons than the national police and army, including rocket-propelled grenades and heavy machine guns.... By law, the guards are supposed to carry nothing more powerful than AK-47 assault weapons, but the government is ill equipped to take away the heavier weaponry. "For security reasons, we can't collect all of their weapons," said Gen. Farahie. "We're not strong enough."

+ In Afghanistan the few, not so proud, police, get trained by Marines / Washington Post (found on PrairiePundit website):

--"Col. Gula Agha Amiri, executive officer of the 7th Afghan Border Police, complained of his unit's lack of body armor and chronic shortages of ammunition and fuel. 'If we have contact with the enemy, we can't fight for more than two hours,' he said."

"U.S. Army Capt. Michael Repasky, chief of the team that mentors the border police here ... 'I've been here five months and haven't been able to figure out why they aren't getting fuel,' ... That, in turn, makes the border police officers reluctant to move beyond their headquarters in the provincial capital, Lashkar Gah ..."

+ Taliban gets Chiense arms / BBC:

--"Afghan officials have also privately confirmed to the BBC that sophisticated Chinese weapons are now in the hands of the Taleban. ... They said these included Chinese-made surface-to-air missiles, anti-aircraft guns, landmines, rocket-propelled grenades and components for roadside bombs. A senior Afghan official told the BBC: 'Chinese HN-5 anti-aircraft missiles are with the Taleban, we know this... and we are worried where do the Taleban get them, some of these weapons have been made recently in Chinese factories.'"

+ China arming terrorists / Washington Times (found in Free Republic ):

--“New intelligence reveals China is covertly supplying large quantities of small arms and weapons to insurgents in Iraq and the Taliban militia in Afghanistan, through Iran.”

'Some arms were sent by aircraft directly from Chinese factories to Afghanistan and included large-caliber sniper rifles, millions of rounds of ammunition, rocket-propelled grenades and components for roadside bombs, as well as other small arms."

+ Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize / LA Times

--“President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year.”

”President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.”

”The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening.”

+ United States and state terrorism / Wikipedia:

--“Arno Mayer, Emeritus Professor of History at Princeton University, has stated that ‘since 1947 America has been the chief and pioneering perpetrator of 'preemptive' state terror, exclusively in the Third World and therefore widely dissembled.’”

+ Nightline / ABC News (June 9, 1993):

--Ted Koppel reported: “It is becoming increasingly clear that George Bush Sr., operating largely behind the scenes throughout the 1980s, initiated and supported much of the financing, intelligence, and military help that built Iraq into an aggressive power. Reagan/Bush administrations permitted--and frequently encouraged--the flow of money, DUAL-USE TECHNOLOGY, chemicals and weapons to Iraq."

+ Another Automaton of the Atomic Lobby: Barack Obama's Nuclear Ambitions / CounterPunch

--"The Clinton years indeed saw an all-out expansion of nuclear power, not only in the US, but all over the globe. First came the deal to begin selling nuclear reactors to China ... even though Zemin brazenly vowed at the time not to abide by the so-called "full scope safeguards" spelled out in the International Atomic Energy Act. The move was apparently made over the objections of Clinton's National Security Advisor Sandy Berger, who cited repeated exports by China of "dual use" technologies to Iran, Pakistan and Iraq. The CIA also weighed in against the deal, pointing out in a report to the President that "CHINA WAS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORT SUPPLIER OF EQUIPMENT AND TECHNOLOGY FOR WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION" worldwide."

Plus Read:

+ Nuclear Leaks and Response Tested Obama in Senate / NY Times:

--Obama's radioactive-leaks bill = caters to Power Co.

+ Grim proving ground for Obama's housing policy / Boston Globe:

--Obama helped his close friend and "most important fundraiser"--Tony Rezko (now in prison for extortion, fraud, money laundering)--get $87,000,000 to renovate 1,000 low-income Chicago apartments.

+ Obama's Sub-Prime Conflict / CommonDreams:

--Obama campaign chair = Penny Pritizker

"... if you traced today's sub-prime crisis back to its origins, you would come upon the role of the Pritzkers and Superior Bank of Chicago."

P.S.--I've been warning about spamming...

Pink Booties · 8th August 2009, 02:21 PM

Take your fail elsewhere and get off my JREF forum.

JihadJane · 8th August 2009, 02:23 PM

Yes.

ETA: That was "yes" to MichaelLWagner rather than to "get orff my forum" Magnifico2.0.

Obama is, indeed, unfortunately, a warmonger.

dudalb · 8th August 2009, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by Magnifico2.0

Take your fail elsewhere and get off my JREF forum.

That is one big bunch of fail.
So naturally Jihad Jane agrees with it.

Pink Booties · 8th August 2009, 02:51 PM

One day, a troll sat under the bridge waiting for unsuspecting passers-by who were too stupid to know there might be a troll under the bridge.

Along came a few pedestrians, speed-walking and talking about various ways they like to make bread, and the best way to make a chicken-salad sandwich,

when the bridge fell onto the troll and smashed it to bloody pulp.

The people speed-walked right over the fallen bridge, stepped in the troll-guts, and laughed about the best way to make troll stew as they went on their merry way.

parky76 · 8th August 2009, 03:37 PM

What exactly is the point of the OP?

boloboffin · 8th August 2009, 05:15 PM

I believe the point of the OP is that the honorable JREF member is trying to prove that he can spam if he wants to.

ARubberChickenWithAPulley · 8th August 2009, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by parky76

What exactly is the point of the OP?

To set a record for 'Most egregious use of ellipses in a single post.'??

Pink Booties · 8th August 2009, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by ARubberChickenWithAPulley

To set a record for 'Most egregious use of ellipses in a single post.'??

No, that's me or DB

kellyb · 8th August 2009, 06:32 PM

I chose one at random to google.

Quote:

+ Who is behind the car bombings in Baghdad? / Antomy Loewenstein:

--“... the Americans … gave him a mobile phone and told him to drive into a crowded area near a mosque and phone them. ... he got out of the car to where he received a better signal. Then his car blew up.”

http://antonyloewenstein.com/2007/03...bs-in-baghdad/

Quote:

Who is behind the car bombings in Baghdad?
Published by Andre20 March 2007 in General. 9 Comments Print This Post
There have been persistent but unverified reports that the car bombs we keep hearing about in Baghdad may not be entirely the work of whom we have been led to believe

leftysergeant · 8th August 2009, 06:43 PM

Earth calling Mr Wagner. The civilian contractors setting bombs in Iraq are corrupt Black Water dirt bags. (Is that a redundancy?)

Republican hellspawn, not of Obama's doing.

Do try to learn the history of these things.

mortimer · 8th August 2009, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by leftysergeant

Earth calling Mr Wagner. The civilian contractors setting bombs in Iraq are corrupt Black Water dirt bags. (Is that a redundancy?)

Republican hellspawn, not of Obama's doing.

Do try to learn the history of these things.

The only difference between your post and the OP is that the OP at least tried to source his completely bogus claims.

leftysergeant · 8th August 2009, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by mortimer

The only difference between your post and the OP is that the OP at least tried to source his completely bogus claims.

So, do you think it remotely possible that it is the Army doping it?

gtc · 8th August 2009, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by mortimer

The only difference between your post and the OP is that the OP at least tried to source his completely bogus claims.

Wait a second. Let's hear him out. He might have evidence for his completely bogus claim.

Pardalis · 8th August 2009, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by leftysergeant

So, do you think it remotely possible that it is the Army doping it?

"Possible" doesn't mean that it's true.

Pardalis · 9th August 2009, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by MichaelLWagner

+ UNITED STATES CAUGHT IN IRAQ CAR-BOMBING / Free-Market News Network, Corp. (FMNN):

--“This time it is the Americans captured in the act of setting off a car bomb in Baghdad. Last time ... two British soldiers ... were caught ..."

“... 'A number of Iraqis apprehended two Americans disguised in Arab dress ... they looked suspicious so they detained the men ... Just as in the British incident ... the two men were removed from Iraq custody and wisked away before any questioning could take place.”

And if you read a little later:

Quote:

However, Realityzone.com has pointed out that since the source is a Russian news agency, it is possible the above “may be disinformation.”

http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=1326

Duh

Pardalis · 9th August 2009, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by kellyb

I chose one at random to google.
http://antonyloewenstein.com/2007/03...bs-in-baghdad/

Something is wrong with these stories:

Quote:

One young Iraqi man told us that he was trained by the Americans as a policeman in Baghdad and he spent 70 per cent of his time learning to drive and 30 per cent in weapons training. They said to him: ‘Come back in a week.’ When he went back, they gave him a mobile phone and told him to drive into a crowded area near a mosque and phone them. He waited in the car but couldn’t get the right mobile signal. So he got out of the car to where he received a better signal. Then his car blew up.

Wouldn't the guy be dead? How can he relate that story if he was blown to bits?

leftysergeant · 9th August 2009, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by Pardalis

Something is wrong with these stories:

Wouldn't the guy be dead? How can he relate that story if he was blown to bits?

He got out of the car to find a better spot from which to use the cell phone. He was apparently far enough away when he found a good spot.

MikeSun5 · 9th August 2009, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by MichaelLWagner

P.S.--I've been warning about spamming...

...yet you do it anyway?

JihadJane · 9th August 2009, 03:02 AM

Originally Posted by MikeSun5

...yet you do it anyway?

Why can't people just do what they're told?

Everyone knows the US fights clean.

INRM · 9th August 2009, 12:25 PM

What do you mean nuclear leaks? Do you mean a radioactive leak at some nuclear powerplants, or do you mean there's been some nuclear fuel missing?

Puppycow · 9th August 2009, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by Pardalis

And if you read a little later:

http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=1326

Duh

Those Russian news agencies are at least as reliable as the Weekly World News.

Take this for example.

Darth Rotor · 10th August 2009, 10:13 AM

Quote:

”The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening.”

This has what to do with Obama and Co as warmongers?

Hint: try not to be a Perry Logan. Try to keep your posts/claims focused on the topic you choose, which in this case was Obama as warmonger.

Thanks.

Tricky · 10th August 2009, 11:48 AM

It is certainly true that Obama has monged a bit of war during his brief administration. He's stepped up the pace of monging over in Afghanistan, though slowed it down in Iraq. True, he hasn't monged any wars from scratch, but he's new. Give him time. During almost every administration, there comes up the situation where it is arguably more wise to mong a war than to suffer the consequences of leaving the war unmonged.

If he turns out to be a competent warmonger, he will only mong wars that are essential to the well-being of his country. I suspect he will be at least as competent and some of the warmongers who have preceded him. But that doesn't mean I'm giving him a free pass. I'm still on the keeping an eye on the monging process.

Darth Rotor · 10th August 2009, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Tricky

It is certainly true that Obama has monged a bit of war during his brief administration. He's stepped up the pace of monging over in Afghanistan, though slowed it down in Iraq. True, he hasn't monged any wars from scratch, but he's new. Give him time. During almost every administration, there comes up the situation where it is arguably more wise to mong a war than to suffer the consequences of leaving the war unmonged.

If he turns out to be a competent warmonger, he will only mong wars that are essential to the well-being of his country. I suspect he will be at least as competent and some of the warmongers who have preceded him. But that doesn't mean I'm giving him a free pass. I'm still on the keeping an eye on the monging process.

His re-election campaign slogan:

"These colors don't mong. "

You heard it here first. I expect receipt of the cool million, year 2012, in crisp twenty dollar bills.

DR

mortimer · 10th August 2009, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by leftysergeant

So, do you think it remotely possible that it is the Army doping it?

I have seen no evidence to that effect.

Do you think it is true because it could be remotely possible that its true?

leftysergeant · 10th August 2009, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by mortimer

I have seen no evidence to that effect.

Do you think it is true because it could be remotely possible that its true?

No. If any Americans are planting IEDs, it would nopt be the Army, and the State Department has no capability or motivation.

The mercs have a good reason to want the American public to think that we still need to have private secuirty forces leeching off our treasurey.

Given that the head of Black Water is a religious whackadoodle who wants a holy war in the Middle East...

mortimer · 10th August 2009, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by leftysergeant

No. If any Americans are planting IEDs, it would nopt be the Army, and the State Department has no capability or motivation.

The mercs have a good reason to want the American public to think that we still need to have private secuirty forces leeching off our treasurey.

Given that the head of Black Water is a religious whackadoodle who wants a holy war in the Middle East...

So, is this your evidence that Blackwater is setting off car bombs in Iraq?

HeyLeroy · 22nd October 2009, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Tricky

It is certainly true that Obama has monged a bit of war during his brief administration. He's stepped up the pace of monging over in Afghanistan, though slowed it down in Iraq. True, he hasn't monged any wars from scratch, but he's new. Give him time. During almost every administration, there comes up the situation where it is arguably more wise to mong a war than to suffer the consequences of leaving the war unmonged.

If he turns out to be a competent warmonger, he will only mong wars that are essential to the well-being of his country. I suspect he will be at least as competent and some of the warmongers who have preceded him. But that doesn't mean I'm giving him a free pass. I'm still on the keeping an eye on the monging process.

I, for one, would be completely gruntled.

leftysergeant · 22nd October 2009, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by mortimer

So, is this your evidence that Blackwater is setting off car bombs in Iraq?

Actually, it may be Dyncorp.

They get paid to train cops and build police facilities with leaky plumbing.

If a few of their installations get trashed, they can bill the government for cost plus to repair the damage.

gmanontario · 22nd October 2009, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by HeyLeroy

I, for one, would be completely gruntled.

Ha. I personally would be totally whelmed.

Matthew Best · 22nd October 2009, 07:55 PM

I scrolled through both of those posts without any ruth whatsoever.

mortimer · 22nd October 2009, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by leftysergeant

Actually, it may be Dyncorp.

They get paid to train cops and build police facilities with leaky plumbing.

If a few of their installations get trashed, they can bill the government for cost plus to repair the damage.

Do you have a single tiny bit of evidence that Black Water or Dyncorp have set a single roadside bomb? You've had over 2 months since you made the first claim.

MikeMangum · 22nd October 2009, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by mortimer

Do you have a single tiny bit of evidence that Black Water or Dyncorp have set a single roadside bomb? You've had over 2 months since you made the first claim.

He's just detailed his evidence: "it may be".

Oh, and some woman weighs less than a duck.

Skeptic · 23rd October 2009, 06:51 PM

Quote:

However, Realityzone.com has pointed out that since the source is a Russian news agency, it is possible the above “may be disinformation.”

"Disinformation" is far too generous a term. Today's PRAVDA, for instance, is the "Weekly World News" or "The Onion" -- I don't think even they take what they write seriously for a minute.

Skeptic · 23rd October 2009, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Do you have a single tiny bit of evidence that Black Water or Dyncorp have set a single roadside bomb? You've had over 2 months since you made the first claim.

They're evil ~~Jews Blacks Catholics Commies Slanted-eyed Chinamen Irish~~ Republicans! What more proof do you need?!

Darth Rotor · 26th October 2009, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by leftysergeant

Actually, it may be Dyncorp.

They get paid to train cops and build police facilities with leaky plumbing.

If a few of their installations get trashed, they can bill the government for cost plus to repair the damage.

Paranoid much?

Whiplash · 26th October 2009, 02:19 PM

Wow, give a guy enough rope... tell us more Sarge.

8th August 2009, 02:09 PM	#1
MichaelLWagner Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 13	Obama & Co = Warmongers + A junkyard solution to IEDs / Christian Science Monitor: --"Army mechanics have jury-rigged a minesweeper in Afghanistan, where roadside bombs have killed five recently." + UNITED STATES CAUGHT IN IRAQ CAR-BOMBING / Free-Market News Network, Corp. (FMNN): --“This time it is the Americans captured in the act of setting off a car bomb in Baghdad. Last time ... two British soldiers ... were caught ..." “... 'A number of Iraqis apprehended two Americans disguised in Arab dress ... they looked suspicious so they detained the men ... Just as in the British incident ... the two men were removed from Iraq custody and wisked away before any questioning could take place.” + Who is behind the car bombings in Baghdad? / Antomy Loewenstein: --“... the Americans … gave him a mobile phone and told him to drive into a crowded area near a mosque and phone them. ... he got out of the car to where he received a better signal. Then his car blew up.” “… an Iraq interpreter ... got suspicious because the Americans called him every now and then asking him if he’s already in the market. He parked the car in the middle of nowhere and answered yes; a few minutes after that the car exploded.” + Afghan Guards Confound U.S. Forces / Wall Street Journal: --"... there have been at least three significant firefights between American forces and Afghan guards in recent months, and a host of other violent incidents. ... some guards take orders from the Taliban or drug gangs. ... 'They recruit former fighters who answer to the Taliban, and they recruit criminals.' ... many of the guards have more powerful weapons than the national police and army, including rocket-propelled grenades and heavy machine guns.... By law, the guards are supposed to carry nothing more powerful than AK-47 assault weapons, but the government is ill equipped to take away the heavier weaponry. "For security reasons, we can't collect all of their weapons," said Gen. Farahie. "We're not strong enough." + In Afghanistan the few, not so proud, police, get trained by Marines / Washington Post (found on PrairiePundit website): --"Col. Gula Agha Amiri, executive officer of the 7th Afghan Border Police, complained of his unit's lack of body armor and chronic shortages of ammunition and fuel. 'If we have contact with the enemy, we can't fight for more than two hours,' he said." "U.S. Army Capt. Michael Repasky, chief of the team that mentors the border police here ... 'I've been here five months and haven't been able to figure out why they aren't getting fuel,' ... That, in turn, makes the border police officers reluctant to move beyond their headquarters in the provincial capital, Lashkar Gah ..." + Taliban gets Chiense arms / BBC: --"Afghan officials have also privately confirmed to the BBC that sophisticated Chinese weapons are now in the hands of the Taleban. ... They said these included Chinese-made surface-to-air missiles, anti-aircraft guns, landmines, rocket-propelled grenades and components for roadside bombs. A senior Afghan official told the BBC: 'Chinese HN-5 anti-aircraft missiles are with the Taleban, we know this... and we are worried where do the Taleban get them, some of these weapons have been made recently in Chinese factories.'" + China arming terrorists / Washington Times (found in Free Republic ): --“New intelligence reveals China is covertly supplying large quantities of small arms and weapons to insurgents in Iraq and the Taliban militia in Afghanistan, through Iran.” 'Some arms were sent by aircraft directly from Chinese factories to Afghanistan and included large-caliber sniper rifles, millions of rounds of ammunition, rocket-propelled grenades and components for roadside bombs, as well as other small arms." + Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize / LA Times --“President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year.” ”President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.” ”The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening.” + United States and state terrorism / Wikipedia: --“Arno Mayer, Emeritus Professor of History at Princeton University, has stated that ‘since 1947 America has been the chief and pioneering perpetrator of 'preemptive' state terror, exclusively in the Third World and therefore widely dissembled.’” + Nightline / ABC News (June 9, 1993): --Ted Koppel reported: “It is becoming increasingly clear that George Bush Sr., operating largely behind the scenes throughout the 1980s, initiated and supported much of the financing, intelligence, and military help that built Iraq into an aggressive power. Reagan/Bush administrations permitted--and frequently encouraged--the flow of money, DUAL-USE TECHNOLOGY, chemicals and weapons to Iraq." + Another Automaton of the Atomic Lobby: Barack Obama's Nuclear Ambitions / CounterPunch --"The Clinton years indeed saw an all-out expansion of nuclear power, not only in the US, but all over the globe. First came the deal to begin selling nuclear reactors to China ... even though Zemin brazenly vowed at the time not to abide by the so-called "full scope safeguards" spelled out in the International Atomic Energy Act. The move was apparently made over the objections of Clinton's National Security Advisor Sandy Berger, who cited repeated exports by China of "dual use" technologies to Iran, Pakistan and Iraq. The CIA also weighed in against the deal, pointing out in a report to the President that "CHINA WAS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORT SUPPLIER OF EQUIPMENT AND TECHNOLOGY FOR WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION" worldwide." Plus Read: + Nuclear Leaks and Response Tested Obama in Senate / NY Times: --Obama's radioactive-leaks bill = caters to Power Co. + Grim proving ground for Obama's housing policy / Boston Globe: --Obama helped his close friend and "most important fundraiser"--Tony Rezko (now in prison for extortion, fraud, money laundering)--get $87,000,000 to renovate 1,000 low-income Chicago apartments. + Obama's Sub-Prime Conflict / CommonDreams: --Obama campaign chair = Penny Pritizker "... if you traced today's sub-prime crisis back to its origins, you would come upon the role of the Pritzkers and Superior Bank of Chicago." P.S.--I've been warning about spamming...
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8th August 2009, 02:23 PM	#3
JihadJane Penultimate Satisfaction Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 12,383	Yes. ETA: That was "yes" to MichaelLWagner rather than to "get orff my forum" Magnifico2.0. Obama is, indeed, unfortunately, a warmonger.
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8th August 2009, 03:37 PM	#6
parky76 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 15,498	What exactly is the point of the OP?
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8th August 2009, 06:32 PM	#10
kellyb Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,620	I chose one at random to google. Quote: + Who is behind the car bombings in Baghdad? / Antomy Loewenstein: --“... the Americans … gave him a mobile phone and told him to drive into a crowded area near a mosque and phone them. ... he got out of the car to where he received a better signal. Then his car blew up.” http://antonyloewenstein.com/2007/03...bs-in-baghdad/ Quote: Who is behind the car bombings in Baghdad? Published by Andre20 March 2007 in General. 9 Comments Print This Post There have been persistent but unverified reports that the car bombs we keep hearing about in Baghdad may not be entirely the work of whom we have been led to believe
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8th August 2009, 09:08 PM	#12
mortimer NWO Janitor Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,897	Originally Posted by leftysergeant Earth calling Mr Wagner. The civilian contractors setting bombs in Iraq are corrupt Black Water dirt bags. (Is that a redundancy?) Republican hellspawn, not of Obama's doing. Do try to learn the history of these things. The only difference between your post and the OP is that the OP at least tried to source his completely bogus claims.
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8th August 2009, 02:21 PM	#2
Pink Booties Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: in your guard, up on points, and stalling. Posts: 3,537	Take your fail elsewhere and get off my JREF forum.

8th August 2009, 02:29 PM	#4
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 14,451	Originally Posted by Magnifico2.0 Take your fail elsewhere and get off my JREF forum. That is one big bunch of fail. So naturally Jihad Jane agrees with it.

8th August 2009, 02:51 PM	#5
Pink Booties Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: in your guard, up on points, and stalling. Posts: 3,537	One day, a troll sat under the bridge waiting for unsuspecting passers-by who were too stupid to know there might be a troll under the bridge. Along came a few pedestrians, speed-walking and talking about various ways they like to make bread, and the best way to make a chicken-salad sandwich, when the bridge fell onto the troll and smashed it to bloody pulp. The people speed-walked right over the fallen bridge, stepped in the troll-guts, and laughed about the best way to make troll stew as they went on their merry way.

8th August 2009, 05:15 PM	#7
boloboffin Guest Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 5,005	I believe the point of the OP is that the honorable JREF member is trying to prove that he can spam if he wants to.

8th August 2009, 05:19 PM	#8
ARubberChickenWithAPulley Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,805	Originally Posted by parky76 What exactly is the point of the OP? To set a record for 'Most egregious use of ellipses in a single post.'??

8th August 2009, 05:27 PM	#9
Pink Booties Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: in your guard, up on points, and stalling. Posts: 3,537	Originally Posted by ARubberChickenWithAPulley To set a record for 'Most egregious use of ellipses in a single post.'?? No, that's me or DB

8th August 2009, 06:43 PM	#11
leftysergeant Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Spanaway WA Posts: 6,717	Earth calling Mr Wagner. The civilian contractors setting bombs in Iraq are corrupt Black Water dirt bags. (Is that a redundancy?) Republican hellspawn, not of Obama's doing. Do try to learn the history of these things.

8th August 2009, 09:41 PM	#13
leftysergeant Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Spanaway WA Posts: 6,717	Originally Posted by mortimer The only difference between your post and the OP is that the OP at least tried to source his completely bogus claims. So, do you think it remotely possible that it is the Army doping it?

8th August 2009, 11:53 PM	#14
gtc Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: the downunderverse Posts: 7,109	Originally Posted by mortimer The only difference between your post and the OP is that the OP at least tried to source his completely bogus claims. Wait a second. Let's hear him out. He might have evidence for his completely bogus claim.

8th August 2009, 11:58 PM	#15
Pardalis Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montréal Posts: 19,186	Originally Posted by leftysergeant So, do you think it remotely possible that it is the Army doping it? "Possible" doesn't mean that it's true.
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9th August 2009, 12:02 AM	#16
Pardalis Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montréal Posts: 19,186	Originally Posted by MichaelLWagner + UNITED STATES CAUGHT IN IRAQ CAR-BOMBING / Free-Market News Network, Corp. (FMNN): --“This time it is the Americans captured in the act of setting off a car bomb in Baghdad. Last time ... two British soldiers ... were caught ..." “... 'A number of Iraqis apprehended two Americans disguised in Arab dress ... they looked suspicious so they detained the men ... Just as in the British incident ... the two men were removed from Iraq custody and wisked away before any questioning could take place.” And if you read a little later: Quote: However, Realityzone.com has pointed out that since the source is a Russian news agency, it is possible the above “may be disinformation.” http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=1326 Duh
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9th August 2009, 12:09 AM	#17
Pardalis Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montréal Posts: 19,186	Originally Posted by kellyb I chose one at random to google. http://antonyloewenstein.com/2007/03...bs-in-baghdad/ Something is wrong with these stories: Quote: One young Iraqi man told us that he was trained by the Americans as a policeman in Baghdad and he spent 70 per cent of his time learning to drive and 30 per cent in weapons training. They said to him: ‘Come back in a week.’ When he went back, they gave him a mobile phone and told him to drive into a crowded area near a mosque and phone them. He waited in the car but couldn’t get the right mobile signal. So he got out of the car to where he received a better signal. Then his car blew up. Wouldn't the guy be dead? How can he relate that story if he was blown to bits?
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9th August 2009, 12:40 AM	#18
leftysergeant Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Spanaway WA Posts: 6,717	Originally Posted by Pardalis Something is wrong with these stories: Wouldn't the guy be dead? How can he relate that story if he was blown to bits? He got out of the car to find a better spot from which to use the cell phone. He was apparently far enough away when he found a good spot.

9th August 2009, 12:49 AM	#19
MikeSun5 Trigger Happy Pacifist, Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 926	Originally Posted by MichaelLWagner P.S.--I've been warning about spamming... ...yet you do it anyway?
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9th August 2009, 03:02 AM	#20
JihadJane Penultimate Satisfaction Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 12,383	Originally Posted by MikeSun5 ...yet you do it anyway? Why can't people just do what they're told? Everyone knows the US fights clean.
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9th August 2009, 12:25 PM	#21
INRM Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,577	What do you mean nuclear leaks? Do you mean a radioactive leak at some nuclear powerplants, or do you mean there's been some nuclear fuel missing?
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9th August 2009, 07:40 PM	#22
Puppycow Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Japan Posts: 6,323	Originally Posted by Pardalis And if you read a little later: http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=1326 Duh Those Russian news agencies are at least as reliable as the Weekly World News. Take this for example.
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10th August 2009, 10:13 AM	#23
Darth Rotor Salted Sith Cynic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rat cheer Posts: 26,817	Quote: ”The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening.” This has what to do with Obama and Co as warmongers? Hint: try not to be a Perry Logan. Try to keep your posts/claims focused on the topic you choose, which in this case was Obama as warmonger. Thanks.
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10th August 2009, 11:48 AM	#24
Tricky Radical centrist Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Group W bench Posts: 27,291	It is certainly true that Obama has monged a bit of war during his brief administration. He's stepped up the pace of monging over in Afghanistan, though slowed it down in Iraq. True, he hasn't monged any wars from scratch, but he's new. Give him time. During almost every administration, there comes up the situation where it is arguably more wise to mong a war than to suffer the consequences of leaving the war unmonged. If he turns out to be a competent warmonger, he will only mong wars that are essential to the well-being of his country. I suspect he will be at least as competent and some of the warmongers who have preceded him. But that doesn't mean I'm giving him a free pass. I'm still on the keeping an eye on the monging process.

10th August 2009, 02:53 PM	#25
Darth Rotor Salted Sith Cynic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rat cheer Posts: 26,817	Originally Posted by Tricky It is certainly true that Obama has monged a bit of war during his brief administration. He's stepped up the pace of monging over in Afghanistan, though slowed it down in Iraq. True, he hasn't monged any wars from scratch, but he's new. Give him time. During almost every administration, there comes up the situation where it is arguably more wise to mong a war than to suffer the consequences of leaving the war unmonged. If he turns out to be a competent warmonger, he will only mong wars that are essential to the well-being of his country. I suspect he will be at least as competent and some of the warmongers who have preceded him. But that doesn't mean I'm giving him a free pass. I'm still on the keeping an eye on the monging process. His re-election campaign slogan: "These colors don't mong. " You heard it here first. I expect receipt of the cool million, year 2012, in crisp twenty dollar bills. DR
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10th August 2009, 05:13 PM	#26
mortimer NWO Janitor Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,897	Originally Posted by leftysergeant So, do you think it remotely possible that it is the Army doping it? I have seen no evidence to that effect. Do you think it is true because it could be remotely possible that its true?
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10th August 2009, 05:32 PM	#27
leftysergeant Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Spanaway WA Posts: 6,717	Originally Posted by mortimer I have seen no evidence to that effect. Do you think it is true because it could be remotely possible that its true? No. If any Americans are planting IEDs, it would nopt be the Army, and the State Department has no capability or motivation. The mercs have a good reason to want the American public to think that we still need to have private secuirty forces leeching off our treasurey. Given that the head of Black Water is a religious whackadoodle who wants a holy war in the Middle East...

10th August 2009, 05:57 PM	#28
mortimer NWO Janitor Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,897	Originally Posted by leftysergeant No. If any Americans are planting IEDs, it would nopt be the Army, and the State Department has no capability or motivation. The mercs have a good reason to want the American public to think that we still need to have private secuirty forces leeching off our treasurey. Given that the head of Black Water is a religious whackadoodle who wants a holy war in the Middle East... So, is this your evidence that Blackwater is setting off car bombs in Iraq?
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22nd October 2009, 05:35 PM	#29
HeyLeroy Vegan Cannibal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Going off the rails on the Crazy Train. Posts: 5,434	Originally Posted by Tricky It is certainly true that Obama has monged a bit of war during his brief administration. He's stepped up the pace of monging over in Afghanistan, though slowed it down in Iraq. True, he hasn't monged any wars from scratch, but he's new. Give him time. During almost every administration, there comes up the situation where it is arguably more wise to mong a war than to suffer the consequences of leaving the war unmonged. If he turns out to be a competent warmonger, he will only mong wars that are essential to the well-being of his country. I suspect he will be at least as competent and some of the warmongers who have preceded him. But that doesn't mean I'm giving him a free pass. I'm still on the keeping an eye on the monging process. I, for one, would be completely gruntled.
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22nd October 2009, 06:38 PM	#30
leftysergeant Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Spanaway WA Posts: 6,717	Originally Posted by mortimer So, is this your evidence that Blackwater is setting off car bombs in Iraq? Actually, it may be Dyncorp. They get paid to train cops and build police facilities with leaky plumbing. If a few of their installations get trashed, they can bill the government for cost plus to repair the damage.

22nd October 2009, 07:50 PM	#31
gmanontario Critical Thinker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Downtown Oakville ON Posts: 327	Originally Posted by HeyLeroy I, for one, would be completely gruntled. Ha. I personally would be totally whelmed.
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22nd October 2009, 07:55 PM	#32
Matthew Best Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Leicester Square, London Posts: 1,343	I scrolled through both of those posts without any ruth whatsoever.

22nd October 2009, 08:06 PM	#33
mortimer NWO Janitor Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,897	Originally Posted by leftysergeant Actually, it may be Dyncorp. They get paid to train cops and build police facilities with leaky plumbing. If a few of their installations get trashed, they can bill the government for cost plus to repair the damage. Do you have a single tiny bit of evidence that Black Water or Dyncorp have set a single roadside bomb? You've had over 2 months since you made the first claim.
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22nd October 2009, 08:27 PM	#34
MikeMangum Muse Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 615	Originally Posted by mortimer Do you have a single tiny bit of evidence that Black Water or Dyncorp have set a single roadside bomb? You've had over 2 months since you made the first claim. He's just detailed his evidence: "it may be". Oh, and some woman weighs less than a duck.
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23rd October 2009, 06:51 PM	#35
Skeptic Sum, ergo cogito Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Behind the chessboard Posts: 13,333	Quote: However, Realityzone.com has pointed out that since the source is a Russian news agency, it is possible the above “may be disinformation.” "Disinformation" is far too generous a term. Today's PRAVDA, for instance, is the "Weekly World News" or "The Onion" -- I don't think even they take what they write seriously for a minute.
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