[Merged] Alex Jones and the Obama "Joker" Poster

Dumb All Over · 14th August 2009, 11:03 AM

From yesterday's Orlando Sentinel comes this story about the Obama Joker posters. The article begins by showing a picture of one of the posters plastered in a public place. At the bottom of the poster you can clearly see "infowars.com". I have to wonder whether Alex Jones is simply jumping on someone else's bandwagon or if he had more to do with the original posters that started popping up in L.A.

Note: It may very well be that this is not the most appropriate section of the forum to post this, but since Alex Jones is our most favorite goofy troofy, I thought I'd try here first.

Brainster · 14th August 2009, 12:20 PM

More discussion as well as a claim that it's Jones behind the posters here.

My guess is that Alex did not originate the posters, but he did use them to advertise his website (and is having a contest with a $1000 prize for putting them up).

Dumb All Over · 14th August 2009, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

My guess is that Alex did not originate the posters, but he did use them to advertise his website (and is having a contest with a $1000 prize for putting them up).

This would be my guess, too. The posters in Florida look like black and white photocopies of the original.

The article mentions that the Clermont Police have interviewed an unnamed suspect. It would be too much to ask if the suspect is, in fact, Alex Jones.

Thunder · 14th August 2009, 02:13 PM

i actually like the posters. it associates nutty Obama-haters with Alex Jones and his insanity.

just like Birthers....Jones and his truthers are a gift to moderates like myself.

Horatius · 14th August 2009, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

My guess is that Alex did not originate the posters, but he did use them to advertise his website (and is having a contest with a $1000 prize for putting them up).

Yep. There's no way Alex would have missed the branding opportunity in the first wave of posters. He's just bandwagonning something that became popular.

Edx · 16th August 2009, 07:39 PM

I dont know if this has been posted before but in case anyone hasnt seen it.

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I AGREE

WOW.

KOO KOO

fullflavormenthol · 16th August 2009, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by Edx

I dont know if this has been posted before but in case anyone hasnt seen it.

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the JREF. The JREF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.

I AGREE

WOW.

KOO KOO

Ohnoes · 18th August 2009, 06:25 AM

Those who guessed that Alex had nothing to do with the concept of the posters....Were right!

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...1&f=103943429/

Quote:

It wasn't Alkhateeb, by the way, who added the word "socialism" to the image and turned it into posters that started showing up several weeks ago around Los Angeles. That was the work of someone who found his original image -- a takeoff on a Time cover -- and expanded on it.

It would seem that Alex grabbed it up and gave no credit....Surprise Surprise!

Grizzly Bear · 18th August 2009, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by Edx

I dont know if this has been posted before but in case anyone hasnt seen it.

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the JREF. The JREF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.

I AGREE

WOW.

KOO KOO

I stopped 30-seconds in... the AJ laugh and the creepy music... told me that it would be 9 minutes of mental breakdown if it were a ton of alex jones dosages.

D'rok · 18th August 2009, 09:20 AM

I think this about sums up AJ:

http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video...%3DTMQLLqiKaas

Horatius · 18th August 2009, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by D'rok

I think this about sums up AJ:

http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video...%3DTMQLLqiKaas

You couldn't find a video of a braying jackass? Other than Jones, I means.

D'rok · 18th August 2009, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Horatius

You couldn't find a video of a braying jackass? Other than Jones, I means.

Ask and ye shall receive:

http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video...%2FTMQLLqiKaas

Horatius · 18th August 2009, 10:41 AM

That's the stuff!

Brainster · 18th August 2009, 11:30 AM

So the guy who originally came up with the poster is a Palestinian? Who would have voted for Dennis Kucinich?

Nosi · 18th August 2009, 07:06 PM

Is it just me or does that Obama/Joker have unpleasant racist shades on top of sinister political overtones? It looks like"Blackface" make up that was oh so popular around the less enlightened days of the 1930's.

Fishstick · 19th August 2009, 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by Brainster

So the guy who originally came up with the poster is a Palestinian? Who would have voted for Dennis Kucinich?

Freepers' heads can be heard popping.

Nosi · 19th August 2009, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Fishstick

Freepers' heads can be heard popping.

Post that on that website, a whole lot of fun could be had...

Oliver · 20th August 2009, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by Edx

I dont know if this has been posted before but in case anyone hasnt seen it.

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the JREF. The JREF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.

I AGREE

WOW.

KOO KOO

Joker-like psychopath ranting about Joker-like psychopath. Comedy gold.

chillzero · 20th August 2009, 04:42 AM

So ... if someone else created these posters .... yet Alex is using them to advertise .... doesn't that make him in breach of copyright laws? Doesn't he owe someone wads of cash for using their posters?

Oliver · 20th August 2009, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by chillzero

So ... if someone else created these posters .... yet Alex is using them to advertise .... doesn't that make him in breach of copyright laws? Doesn't he owe someone wads of cash for using their posters?

Someone like the Time Magazine that owns the copyrights to the original Obama photograph?

Eta: http://mikephilbin.blogspot.com/2009...s-angeles.html

KingMerv00 · 20th August 2009, 06:23 PM

The Painter's avatar. Blech.

jakesteele · 21st August 2009, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Edx

I dont know if this has been posted before but in case anyone hasnt seen it.

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the JREF. The JREF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.

I AGREE

WOW.

KOO KOO

Wow, that was so far over the top, I actually thought it was pretty cool. He had a good cadence and flow of rhetoric that reminded me of a televangelist on a roll. At times I got the feeling that he was satirizing his own image and was actually laughing all the way to the bank like he said Obama was laughing at us.

It was a taut, psychological thriller in the grand tradition of Alfred Hitchcock. I laughed, I cried, I stood to my feet and cheered at his utter brilliance and audacity. I give it at least two thumbs up.

Nosi · 21st August 2009, 01:29 PM

But what if he BELIEVES all his...AHEM?

Horatius · 21st August 2009, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by chillzero

So ... if someone else created these posters .... yet Alex is using them to advertise .... doesn't that make him in breach of copyright laws? Doesn't he owe someone wads of cash for using their posters?

Originally Posted by Oliver

Someone like the Time Magazine that owns the copyrights to the original Obama photograph?

Eta: http://mikephilbin.blogspot.com/2009...s-angeles.html

The altered picture would probably be considered a derivative work, for which licensing might be a bit complicated, but AJ's use is pretty much a straight rip-off.

Quote:

US Copyright Office Circular 14: Derivative Works notes that:

A typical example of a derivative work received for registration in the Copyright Office is one that is primarily a new work but incorporates some previously published material. This previously published material makes the work a derivative work under the copyright law. To be copyrightable, a derivative work must be different enough from the original to be regarded as a "new work" or must contain a substantial amount of new material. Making minor changes or additions of little substance to a preexisting work will not qualify the work as a new version for copyright purposes. The new material must be original and copyrightable in itself. Titles, short phrases, and format, for example, are not copyrightable.

Axiom_Blade · 21st August 2009, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Edx

WOW.

KOO KOO

There's some Grade A nightmare fuel!

Latitude · 22nd August 2009, 02:08 PM

That video is hilarious, but what's with the pimp and slapping bitches comments? Is this in reference to something or is he actually just using racial stereotypes to get his point across?

14th August 2009, 11:03 AM	#1
Dumb All Over A Little Ugly on the Side Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: They call it the Earth (which is a dumb kinda name) Posts: 3,693	Alex Jones and the Obama "Joker" Poster From yesterday's Orlando Sentinel comes this story about the Obama Joker posters. The article begins by showing a picture of one of the posters plastered in a public place. At the bottom of the poster you can clearly see "infowars.com". I have to wonder whether Alex Jones is simply jumping on someone else's bandwagon or if he had more to do with the original posters that started popping up in L.A. Note: It may very well be that this is not the most appropriate section of the forum to post this, but since Alex Jones is our most favorite goofy troofy, I thought I'd try here first.
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14th August 2009, 12:20 PM	#2
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10,442	More discussion as well as a claim that it's Jones behind the posters here. My guess is that Alex did not originate the posters, but he did use them to advertise his website (and is having a contest with a $1000 prize for putting them up).
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14th August 2009, 12:33 PM	#3
Dumb All Over A Little Ugly on the Side Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: They call it the Earth (which is a dumb kinda name) Posts: 3,693	Originally Posted by Brainster My guess is that Alex did not originate the posters, but he did use them to advertise his website (and is having a contest with a $1000 prize for putting them up). This would be my guess, too. The posters in Florida look like black and white photocopies of the original. The article mentions that the Clermont Police have interviewed an unnamed suspect. It would be too much to ask if the suspect is, in fact, Alex Jones.
	__________________ The Three Word Story Pledge of Allegiance-- "I Hereby swear upon Engelbert's grave that I will gallop, not stride run, not walk posting three words on Shemp's honor, honoring: bananas, dwarfs, clarinets, [the 7th naughty word], haggis, Batman, nuns, wombats until such time as I'm sober. Or dead." "Some people have a way with words, other people...Um...Oh...Uh, not have way." --Steve Martin Last edited by Dumb All Over; 14th August 2009 at 12:35 PM.

14th August 2009, 02:23 PM	#5
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 21,894	Originally Posted by Brainster My guess is that Alex did not originate the posters, but he did use them to advertise his website (and is having a contest with a $1000 prize for putting them up). Yep. There's no way Alex would have missed the branding opportunity in the first wave of posters. He's just bandwagonning something that became popular.
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18th August 2009, 06:25 AM	#8
Ohnoes Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 274	Those who guessed that Alex had nothing to do with the concept of the posters....Were right! http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...1&f=103943429/ Quote: It wasn't Alkhateeb, by the way, who added the word "socialism" to the image and turned it into posters that started showing up several weeks ago around Los Angeles. That was the work of someone who found his original image -- a takeoff on a Time cover -- and expanded on it. It would seem that Alex grabbed it up and gave no credit....Surprise Surprise!
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14th August 2009, 02:13 PM	#4
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queens Posts: 34,947	i actually like the posters. it associates nutty Obama-haters with Alex Jones and his insanity. just like Birthers....Jones and his truthers are a gift to moderates like myself.

18th August 2009, 09:20 AM	#10
D'rok Free Barbarian on The Land Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 6,237	I think this about sums up AJ: http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video...%3DTMQLLqiKaas
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18th August 2009, 09:53 AM	#11
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 21,894	Originally Posted by D'rok I think this about sums up AJ: http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video...%3DTMQLLqiKaas You couldn't find a video of a braying jackass? Other than Jones, I means.
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18th August 2009, 10:23 AM	#12
D'rok Free Barbarian on The Land Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 6,237	Originally Posted by Horatius You couldn't find a video of a braying jackass? Other than Jones, I means. Ask and ye shall receive: http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video...%2FTMQLLqiKaas
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18th August 2009, 10:41 AM	#13
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 21,894	That's the stuff!
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18th August 2009, 11:30 AM	#14
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10,442	So the guy who originally came up with the poster is a Palestinian? Who would have voted for Dennis Kucinich?
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18th August 2009, 07:06 PM	#15
Nosi Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,731	Is it just me or does that Obama/Joker have unpleasant racist shades on top of sinister political overtones? It looks like"Blackface" make up that was oh so popular around the less enlightened days of the 1930's.
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19th August 2009, 02:21 AM	#16
Fishstick Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,303	Originally Posted by Brainster So the guy who originally came up with the poster is a Palestinian? Who would have voted for Dennis Kucinich? Freepers' heads can be heard popping.

19th August 2009, 01:50 PM	#17
Nosi Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,731	Originally Posted by Fishstick Freepers' heads can be heard popping. Post that on that website, a whole lot of fun could be had...
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20th August 2009, 04:42 AM	#19
chillzero Domestic Godless Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Top of the world, ma! Posts: 15,235	So ... if someone else created these posters .... yet Alex is using them to advertise .... doesn't that make him in breach of copyright laws? Doesn't he owe someone wads of cash for using their posters?

20th August 2009, 04:47 AM	#20
Oliver ~The Rascal~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cologne Posts: 17,369	Originally Posted by chillzero So ... if someone else created these posters .... yet Alex is using them to advertise .... doesn't that make him in breach of copyright laws? Doesn't he owe someone wads of cash for using their posters? Someone like the Time Magazine that owns the copyrights to the original Obama photograph? Eta: http://mikephilbin.blogspot.com/2009...s-angeles.html
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20th August 2009, 06:23 PM	#21
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21st August 2009, 01:29 PM	#23
Nosi Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,731	But what if he BELIEVES all his...AHEM?
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21st August 2009, 03:29 PM	#24
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 21,894	Originally Posted by chillzero So ... if someone else created these posters .... yet Alex is using them to advertise .... doesn't that make him in breach of copyright laws? Doesn't he owe someone wads of cash for using their posters? Originally Posted by Oliver Someone like the Time Magazine that owns the copyrights to the original Obama photograph? Eta: http://mikephilbin.blogspot.com/2009...s-angeles.html The altered picture would probably be considered a derivative work, for which licensing might be a bit complicated, but AJ's use is pretty much a straight rip-off. Quote: US Copyright Office Circular 14: Derivative Works notes that: A typical example of a derivative work received for registration in the Copyright Office is one that is primarily a new work but incorporates some previously published material. This previously published material makes the work a derivative work under the copyright law. To be copyrightable, a derivative work must be different enough from the original to be regarded as a "new work" or must contain a substantial amount of new material. Making minor changes or additions of little substance to a preexisting work will not qualify the work as a new version for copyright purposes. The new material must be original and copyrightable in itself. Titles, short phrases, and format, for example, are not copyrightable.
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21st August 2009, 08:51 PM	#25
Axiom_Blade Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,748	Originally Posted by Edx WOW. KOO KOO There's some Grade A nightmare fuel!

22nd August 2009, 02:08 PM	#26
Latitude New Blood Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8	That video is hilarious, but what's with the pimp and slapping bitches comments? Is this in reference to something or is he actually just using racial stereotypes to get his point across?
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