Sen. Coburn to help uninsured woman..

thaiboxerken · 27th August 2009, 10:29 AM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#32560146

After the Michael Steel article, the Maddow show highlights Senator Coburn's virtuous act of promising to help an uninsured woman's husband get treatment for brain injury. He says he will get his office to find help for this woman. However, right after, he says that the government should not be helping people because neighbors should be doing that.

IN short.

1. Woman complains about health insurance.
2. Coburn says he'll have his (government) office help.
3. Says that government should not be helping.

I'm happy that Coburn is going to help this lady. However, it would be nice if he picked up on his own contradiction and realized that he's providing government help to that lady.

ponderingturtle · 27th August 2009, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#32560146

After the Michael Steel article, the Maddow show highlights Senator Coburn's virtuous act of promising to help an uninsured woman's husband get treatment for brain injury. He says he will get his office to find help for this woman. However, right after, he says that the government should not be helping people because neighbors should be doing that.

IN short.

1. Woman complains about health insurance.
2. Coburn says he'll have his (government) office help.
3. Says that government should not be helping.

I'm happy that Coburn is going to help this lady. However, it would be nice if he picked up on his own contradiction and realized that he's providing government help to that lady.

There is no contradiction, he is helping her as a neighbor and helping her through nepotism. It is only wrong when you try to get the goverment to help everyone in that situation.

thaiboxerken · 27th August 2009, 10:39 AM

He is using his power, as a Government Official, to help her. That is the contradiction. It's not wrong to get the government to help those who need it.

ponderingturtle · 27th August 2009, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken

He is using his power, as a Government Official, to help her. That is the contradiction. It's not wrong to get the government to help those who need it.

There is nothing wrong with neighbors useing their abilities to help their neibors. As long as he only does it for her, and not for everyone in her situation it fits with his belief system.

It is who you know that is always most important after all.

thaiboxerken · 27th August 2009, 10:52 AM

He is using government resources to help this lady and then is saying that the government shouldn't be helping this lady. If he said he'd pay out of his own pocket to help her, I would say there is no contradiction.

ImaginalDisc · 27th August 2009, 11:05 PM

I think that's a common fault.

People often complain about how horrible traffic is, but rarely see their own driving as part of the problem.

Limburger, O'Really, Hammity, and other media comentators routinely talk about how biased the media is against them - failing to either realize or accept that they are part of the media.

When Coburn talks about "the government" so doing X or not doing Y he's viewing himself as an entity outside of it, which is stupid beyond belief.

thaiboxerken · 27th August 2009, 11:13 PM

Isn't it a silly point that the GOP politicians often make? They say the government is always incompetent, then they keep asserting that they need to play a role in that government...

Ziggurat · 27th August 2009, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by ImaginalDisc

stupid beyond belief.

You need to expand the scope of stupidity you believe in.

SezMe · 28th August 2009, 12:39 AM

The worst part is when Coburn waxes philosophically about how neighbors should help neighbors. Riiiight. Some guy who needs massive help (probably measured in $100Ks and specialty health services) is going to be adequately served by his "neighbors". Coburn is one of the sickest turds in all of government services.

NobbyNobbs · 28th August 2009, 01:07 AM

I've come across this guy before.

27th August 2009, 10:29 AM	#1
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 13,315	Sen. Coburn to help uninsured woman.. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#32560146 After the Michael Steel article, the Maddow show highlights Senator Coburn's virtuous act of promising to help an uninsured woman's husband get treatment for brain injury. He says he will get his office to find help for this woman. However, right after, he says that the government should not be helping people because neighbors should be doing that. IN short. 1. Woman complains about health insurance. 2. Coburn says he'll have his (government) office help. 3. Says that government should not be helping. I'm happy that Coburn is going to help this lady. However, it would be nice if he picked up on his own contradiction and realized that he's providing government help to that lady.
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27th August 2009, 10:36 AM	#2
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ossining NY Posts: 18,770	Originally Posted by thaiboxerken http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#32560146 After the Michael Steel article, the Maddow show highlights Senator Coburn's virtuous act of promising to help an uninsured woman's husband get treatment for brain injury. He says he will get his office to find help for this woman. However, right after, he says that the government should not be helping people because neighbors should be doing that. IN short. 1. Woman complains about health insurance. 2. Coburn says he'll have his (government) office help. 3. Says that government should not be helping. I'm happy that Coburn is going to help this lady. However, it would be nice if he picked up on his own contradiction and realized that he's providing government help to that lady. There is no contradiction, he is helping her as a neighbor and helping her through nepotism. It is only wrong when you try to get the goverment to help everyone in that situation.
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27th August 2009, 10:46 AM	#4
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ossining NY Posts: 18,770	Originally Posted by thaiboxerken He is using his power, as a Government Official, to help her. That is the contradiction. It's not wrong to get the government to help those who need it. There is nothing wrong with neighbors useing their abilities to help their neibors. As long as he only does it for her, and not for everyone in her situation it fits with his belief system. It is who you know that is always most important after all.
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27th August 2009, 10:52 AM	#5
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 13,315	He is using government resources to help this lady and then is saying that the government shouldn't be helping this lady. If he said he'd pay out of his own pocket to help her, I would say there is no contradiction.
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27th August 2009, 11:05 PM	#6
ImaginalDisc Proactive Untwister of Octagonal Hippopotamus Pants Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 10,049	I think that's a common fault. People often complain about how horrible traffic is, but rarely see their own driving as part of the problem. Limburger, O'Really, Hammity, and other media comentators routinely talk about how biased the media is against them - failing to either realize or accept that they are part of the media. When Coburn talks about "the government" so doing X or not doing Y he's viewing himself as an entity outside of it, which is stupid beyond belief.
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27th August 2009, 10:39 AM	#3
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 13,315	He is using his power, as a Government Official, to help her. That is the contradiction. It's not wrong to get the government to help those who need it.
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27th August 2009, 11:13 PM	#7
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 13,315	Isn't it a silly point that the GOP politicians often make? They say the government is always incompetent, then they keep asserting that they need to play a role in that government...
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27th August 2009, 11:42 PM	#8
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 13,874	Originally Posted by ImaginalDisc stupid beyond belief. You need to expand the scope of stupidity you believe in.
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28th August 2009, 12:39 AM	#9
SezMe Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 9,129	The worst part is when Coburn waxes philosophically about how neighbors should help neighbors. Riiiight. Some guy who needs massive help (probably measured in $100Ks and specialty health services) is going to be adequately served by his "neighbors". Coburn is one of the sickest turds in all of government services.

28th August 2009, 01:07 AM	#10
NobbyNobbs Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Mended Drum Posts: 4,976	I've come across this guy before.
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