[Merged] Orly Taitz's Obama birther lawsuit laughed out of court

Questioninggeller · 16th September 2009, 01:44 PM

Not surprising and the judge said even "a middle school student could find irony" in the birth claims:

Quote:

Judge tosses out Army captain's complaint questioning president's birth; Orly Taitz on notice
Wednesday, Sep. 16, 2009
BY ALAN RIQUELMY
Ledger-enquirer.com

U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land tossed out on Wednesday a complaint by an Army captain fighting deployment to Iraq by questioning the legitimacy of President Barack Obama.

Land also put attorney Orly Taitz, who represents Capt. Connie Rhodes and is a leader in the national “birther” movement, on notice by stating that she could face sanctions if she ever again files in his court a similar “frivolous” lawsuit — a document that at one point the judge states that a middle school student could find irony in.

“(Rhodes) has presented no credible evidence and has made no reliable factual allegations to support her unsubstantiated, conclusory allegations and conjecture that President Obama is ineligible to serve as president of the United States,” Land states in his order. “Instead, she uses her complaint as a platform for spouting political rhetoric, such as her claims that the president is ‘an illegal usurper, an unlawful pretender, [and] an unqualified imposter.’”
...
In his order, Land states in a footnote that Obama defeated seven opponents in a “grueling” primary campaign that cost the contenders more than $300 million. Obama then moved on to the general election, where he faced Sen. John McCain, who Land states got $84 million to wage his campaign.

“It would appear that ample opportunity existed for discovery of evidence that would support any contention that the president was not eligible for the office he sought,” Land says.
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Taitz, who Land says has fueled the “birther movement” with her litigation, hasn’t appeared to have won any of her claims, the judge said. Taitz pressed her agenda by filing the complaint on behalf of Rhodes, a doctor who had her final two years of medical school paid for by taxpayers, Land states.
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The judge specifically addresses Rhodes’ “birther” arguments, including allegations that Obama might have used 149 addresses and 39 Social Security numbers before becoming president and the existence of what Taitz claims is Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate.
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Land ordered that the defendants — who include Obama, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Col. Thomas MacDonald, Fort Benning garrison commander — will recover any costs from the complaint from Rhodes.

Full: Ledger-enquirer.com

oldhat · 16th September 2009, 01:46 PM

She's enough of a zealot to keep filing these lawsuits until she gets sanctioned.

Alt+F4 · 16th September 2009, 02:10 PM

Has she called Judge Land a Nazi yet?

Questioninggeller · 16th September 2009, 02:22 PM

Didn't call him a Nazi, but said the judge committed treason:

Quote:

Judge Denies TRO In Latest “Birther” Case
WRBL
Published: September 16, 2009

...
Orly Taitz, Rhodes’ attorney told News Three the ruling is “horrible.“ Taitz said Judge Clay Land “should be tried for treason with Obama.“ Taitz also said Judge Land’s ruling “showed a total disrespect for the Constitution of the United States of America.“
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Taitz says she plans to appeal the ruling to the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals. She has 60 days to do so. She’s currently appealing a similar ruling in a similar case before Judge Clay Land involving another soldier.

Full: WRBL

Edit to add:
The judge's ruling was just made available at this location.

MysteryMammal · 16th September 2009, 04:15 PM

I've always wanted to know what color the sky is in Taitz world.

I first heard about this birther nonsense around January. I looked into it. A simple google search provided me enough information to believe that Obama was born in the US and has a valid birth certificate.

Taitz will just keep fighting this. She's trying to make reality conform to her whack-job desires.

Lisa Simpson · 16th September 2009, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Judge Land is “a typical puppet of the regime — just like in the Soviet Union” and that “somebody should consider trying [Land] for treason and aiding and abetting this massive fraud known as Barack Hussein Obama.”

She should be dis-allowed from filing any lawsuits about anything.

Cleon · 16th September 2009, 04:35 PM

Honestly, I wish the judge made Taitz pay for this crap, rather than make her "clients" pay for the waste of time. She's the one spoonfeeding them this crap; let her face the consequences.

Dr Adequate · 16th September 2009, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Questioninggeller

The judge's ruling was just made available at this location.

Oh, thank you. I love you, though probably not in a physical sense.

I just adore watching judges say: "You're a freakin' halfwit now get out of my courtroom" in proper judicial language. It's an intricate literary exercise, given that they're not allowed to use the words "blowhard", "crapfest", and "whack-a-doodle-doo".

dudalb · 16th September 2009, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by oldhat

She's enough of a zealot to keep filing these lawsuits until she gets sanctioned.

Or until some judge dismisses the case "with prejudice" which means "don't bother us with this crap again".

Sabrina · 16th September 2009, 06:12 PM

Someone needs to disbar this woman; YESTERDAY.

LashL · 16th September 2009, 06:31 PM

Land's judgment is a satisfying smackdown, indeed.

drkitten · 16th September 2009, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Or until some judge dismisses the case "with prejudice" which means "don't bother us with this crap again".

Not really. Dismissing a case with prejudice does indeed mean "don't bother us with THIS crap again," but you can't prevent her from bringing a case that is nearly identical in content but with a different named plaintiff or a slightly different set of pleadings.

There are, what, a half million troops in the US Army, plus the other branches of service. In theory, she could file the same damn paperwork for every single one of them and they'd all be separate cases that would need to be disposed of ("dismissed") separately.

Well before that, she would be disbarred and sanctioned into a small greasy smear,.... I hope.

linusrichard · 16th September 2009, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Or until some judge dismisses the case "with prejudice" which means "don't bother us with this crap again".

But she can still bother them with different crap another day. Sanctions are what's needed here.

eta:f;b

Skeptic Ginger · 16th September 2009, 07:26 PM

Does this woman even have a license to practice law in the US?

linusrichard · 16th September 2009, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by skeptigirl

Does this woman even have a license to practice law in the US?

Sadly, yes.

ETA: Here.

ETA2: Sadly yes, for now.

Arus808 · 16th September 2009, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson

She should be dis-allowed from filing any lawsuits about anything.

i was hoping that the California Bar Association would take notice and finally boot her white behind and fine her

ETA: I hope Rhodes turns around and SUES her for being a bad lawyer and causing her to lose money

arthwollipot · 16th September 2009, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by LashL

Land's judgment is a satisfying smackdown, indeed.

Almost as satisfying as that of Judge Jones in Dover.

Dr Adequate · 17th September 2009, 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by drkitten

Not really. Dismissing a case with prejudice does indeed mean "don't bother us with THIS crap again," but you can't prevent her from bringing a case that is nearly identical in content but with a different named plaintiff or a slightly different set of pleadings.

There are, what, a half million troops in the US Army, plus the other branches of service. In theory, she could file the same damn paperwork for every single one of them and they'd all be separate cases that would need to be disposed of ("dismissed") separately.

Well before that, she would be disbarred and sanctioned into a small greasy smear,.... I hope.

From page 1:

Furthermore, Plaintiff's counsel is hereby notified that the filing of any future actions in this Court, which are similarly frivolous, shall subject counsel to sanctions.

Of course, there are a lot of other courts ...

---

Like Arthwollipot, I haven't enjoyed a judicial ruling so much since Dover. It was much fun.

Her "conscientious objections" to serving under the current Commander in Chief apparently can be accommodated as long as she is permitted to remain on American soil.

BURN!

Puppycow · 17th September 2009, 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by Dr Adequate

they're not allowed to use the words "blowhard", "crapfest", and "whack-a-doodle-doo".

I wish they'd make an exception for cases like this, though.

bozothedeathmachine · 17th September 2009, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by Dr Adequate

they're not allowed to use the words "blowhard", "crapfest", and "whack-a-doodle-doo".

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

Almost as satisfying as that of Judge Jones in Dover.

Who needs "crapfest" when "breathtaking inanity" cuts so nicely?

volatile · 17th September 2009, 06:58 AM

Page 8 is just GOLD.

Puppycow · 17th September 2009, 07:16 AM

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

Some funny comments there.

Alareth · 17th September 2009, 07:58 AM

I have an image of Orly in court in interrupting the judge, "Let me finish! Ok, ok, why are you so rude to me? LET ME FINISH!"

Sabrina · 17th September 2009, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Alareth

I have an image of Orly in court in interrupting the judge, "Let me finish! Ok, ok, why are you so rude to me? LET ME FINISH!"

I suddenly pictured Orly as a Canadian from South Park there...

kedo1981 · 17th September 2009, 08:28 AM

Come on folks this whole, birther, secret Muslim, commie,crap is code for "THEYS A NEGRO IN DA WHITEHOUSE"

funk de fino · 17th September 2009, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by drkitten

Not really. Dismissing a case with prejudice does indeed mean "don't bother us with THIS crap again," but you can't prevent her from bringing a case that is nearly identical in content but with a different named plaintiff or a slightly different set of pleadings.

There are, what, a half million troops in the US Army, plus the other branches of service. In theory, she could file the same damn paperwork for every single one of them and they'd all be separate cases that would need to be disposed of ("dismissed") separately.

Well before that, she would be disbarred and sanctioned into a small greasy smear,.... I hope.

How many of those 500,000 are racists though? You would love to think her pool to choose from would be small.

headscratcher4 · 17th September 2009, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by Sabrina

Someone needs to disbar this woman; YESTERDAY.

You are obviously a treasonous traitor full of traitory hate for America.

Alt+F4 · 17th September 2009, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by funk de fino

How many of those 500,000 are racists though? You would love to think her pool to choose from would be small.

You don't need to be a rascist to accept Orly's "help", you just have to not want to be deployed to Iraq. In the decision Judge Land notes that Captain Rhodes had no problems with the Commander in Chief while she was stationed in the U.S. She turned "birther" only after getting her orders.

Greg_in_CO · 17th September 2009, 09:04 AM

Memory fades, but it seems to me that the conspiracy theories surrounding Florida and the 2000 presidential election eventually receded into the background of public and media attention. Sadly, I don't see this happening with open mic the media has given to the teabaggers and their onerous subset, the birthers.

Sabrina · 17th September 2009, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by headscratcher4

You are obviously a treasonous traitor full of traitory hate for America.

I'll be sure to inform my superiors so my commission can be immediately revoked.

paiute · 17th September 2009, 09:36 AM

You all missed the later ruling where Judge Land legally changed Orly Taitz' name to Wharrgarbl.

Questioninggeller · 17th September 2009, 11:34 AM

If true, this will get her disbarred (follow link to the affidavit):

Quote:

Larry Sinclair: Orly Taitz Told Me to Lie, Claim That Obama Had People Killed
By David Weigel 9/16/09 5:32 PM
Washington Independent

The affidavit that Obama foe Larry Sinclair claims to have filed in a California court, in which he accuses birther Orly Taitz of trying to get him to lie on the stand, is available right here. In it, Sinclair recounts being ushered into Taitz’s office and being told by her to “testify that three (3) member (sic) of Obama’s church were murder (sic).” Sinclair claims to have recoiled at this, at which point Taitz encouraged him to say it anyway.
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Sinclair also implicates Cynthia Davis, a Republican state representative from Missouri, claiming that she was part of a previous meeting with Taitz that Sinclair attended. Lucas Smith, the Iowa man who has been shopping around a forged Kenyan “birth certificate” for Obama, also appears in the affidavit.
...

Full: Washington Independent

Cleon · 17th September 2009, 11:39 AM

The problem is that Larry Sinclair is no more believable than Orly. They're like a two-headed coin of bat guano.

Vorticity · 17th September 2009, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Questioninggeller

The judge's ruling was just made available at this location.

From page 9:

Originally Posted by Judge Land

Unlike in Alice in Wonderland, simply saying something is so does not make it so.

Translation: "What color is the sky in your world?"

LONGTABBER PE · 17th September 2009, 12:23 PM

Things like this make you want to just shake your head.

I did catch the part and agree with the other poster who correctly noted that she didnt have all these "issues" until she got her Deployment Orders. OK, I dont like being deployed any more than anyone else but she isnt the first person to try and duck a deployment and wont be the last. I can at least understand her motivation- she didnt want to come here.

What I cant see is a real lawyer filing such a case the way it was constructed.

Just using logic- lets say you really believe there might be a case that Obama isnt a natural born citizen. Lets also say, hypothetically there even was some real circumstantial support for the issue.

Dont these people think that the Republican party and McCain specifically ( hell, even Hillary for that matter) would be all over it? I cant help but accept that they all probably looked into it for their own reasons and if there was even a shred of convincing evidence to shore up the claim- one of them would have acted on it

headscratcher4 · 17th September 2009, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by LONGTABBER PE

Dont these people think that the Republican party and McCain specifically ( hell, even Hillary for that matter) would be all over it?

Treason & its bedfellows. Not a pretty picture.

Suddenly · 17th September 2009, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

Some funny comments there.

It looks like a political/legal version of timecube.

Foster Zygote · 17th September 2009, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by oldhat

She's enough of a zealot to keep filing these lawsuits until she gets sanctioned.

At which point she'll claim that there is a conspiracy to silence her.

Foster Zygote · 17th September 2009, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Alt+F4

You don't need to be a rascist to accept Orly's "help", you just have to not want to be deployed to Iraq. In the decision Judge Land notes that Captain Rhodes had no problems with the Commander in Chief while she was stationed in the U.S. She turned "birther" only after getting her orders.

To paraphrase my Green Beret brother-in-law who just returned from his fourth combat tour: "**** that ****in' ****!!!"

skeptical · 17th September 2009, 12:59 PM

She should be disbarred, plain and simple. Not because she's a nutcase (which she is), but because she is bringing clearly frivolous lawsuits and making a mockery of the judicial system.

16th September 2009, 01:44 PM	#1
Questioninggeller Master Poster Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,552	Orly Taitz's Obama birther lawsuit laughed out of court Not surprising and the judge said even "a middle school student could find irony" in the birth claims: Quote: Judge tosses out Army captain's complaint questioning president's birth; Orly Taitz on notice Wednesday, Sep. 16, 2009 BY ALAN RIQUELMY Ledger-enquirer.com U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land tossed out on Wednesday a complaint by an Army captain fighting deployment to Iraq by questioning the legitimacy of President Barack Obama. Land also put attorney Orly Taitz, who represents Capt. Connie Rhodes and is a leader in the national “birther” movement, on notice by stating that she could face sanctions if she ever again files in his court a similar “frivolous” lawsuit — a document that at one point the judge states that a middle school student could find irony in. “(Rhodes) has presented no credible evidence and has made no reliable factual allegations to support her unsubstantiated, conclusory allegations and conjecture that President Obama is ineligible to serve as president of the United States,” Land states in his order. “Instead, she uses her complaint as a platform for spouting political rhetoric, such as her claims that the president is ‘an illegal usurper, an unlawful pretender, [and] an unqualified imposter.’” ... In his order, Land states in a footnote that Obama defeated seven opponents in a “grueling” primary campaign that cost the contenders more than $300 million. Obama then moved on to the general election, where he faced Sen. John McCain, who Land states got $84 million to wage his campaign. “It would appear that ample opportunity existed for discovery of evidence that would support any contention that the president was not eligible for the office he sought,” Land says. ... Taitz, who Land says has fueled the “birther movement” with her litigation, hasn’t appeared to have won any of her claims, the judge said. Taitz pressed her agenda by filing the complaint on behalf of Rhodes, a doctor who had her final two years of medical school paid for by taxpayers, Land states. ... The judge specifically addresses Rhodes’ “birther” arguments, including allegations that Obama might have used 149 addresses and 39 Social Security numbers before becoming president and the existence of what Taitz claims is Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate. ... Land ordered that the defendants — who include Obama, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Col. Thomas MacDonald, Fort Benning garrison commander — will recover any costs from the complaint from Rhodes. Full: Ledger-enquirer.com
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16th September 2009, 02:22 PM	#4
Questioninggeller Master Poster Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,552	Didn't call him a Nazi, but said the judge committed treason: Quote: Judge Denies TRO In Latest “Birther” Case WRBL Published: September 16, 2009 ... Orly Taitz, Rhodes’ attorney told News Three the ruling is “horrible.“ Taitz said Judge Clay Land “should be tried for treason with Obama.“ Taitz also said Judge Land’s ruling “showed a total disrespect for the Constitution of the United States of America.“ ... Taitz says she plans to appeal the ruling to the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals. She has 60 days to do so. She’s currently appealing a similar ruling in a similar case before Judge Clay Land involving another soldier. Full: WRBL Edit to add: The judge's ruling was just made available at this location.
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16th September 2009, 04:19 PM	#6
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16th September 2009, 04:15 PM	#5
MysteryMammal Thinker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In the woods, scaring campers Posts: 245	I've always wanted to know what color the sky is in Taitz world. I first heard about this birther nonsense around January. I looked into it. A simple google search provided me enough information to believe that Obama was born in the US and has a valid birth certificate. Taitz will just keep fighting this. She's trying to make reality conform to her whack-job desires.

16th September 2009, 04:35 PM	#7
Cleon King of the Pod People Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 14,362	Honestly, I wish the judge made Taitz pay for this crap, rather than make her "clients" pay for the waste of time. She's the one spoonfeeding them this crap; let her face the consequences.
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Dr Adequate Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Waiting Long Enough By The River Posts: 17,902	Originally Posted by Questioninggeller The judge's ruling was just made available at this location. Oh, thank you. I love you, though probably not in a physical sense. I just adore watching judges say: "You're a freakin' halfwit now get out of my courtroom" in proper judicial language. It's an intricate literary exercise, given that they're not allowed to use the words "blowhard", "crapfest", and "whack-a-doodle-doo".
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16th September 2009, 05:50 PM	#9
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 14,451	Originally Posted by oldhat She's enough of a zealot to keep filing these lawsuits until she gets sanctioned. Or until some judge dismisses the case "with prejudice" which means "don't bother us with this crap again".

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drkitten Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Wits' End Posts: 17,338	Originally Posted by dudalb Or until some judge dismisses the case "with prejudice" which means "don't bother us with this crap again". Not really. Dismissing a case with prejudice does indeed mean "don't bother us with THIS crap again," but you can't prevent her from bringing a case that is nearly identical in content but with a different named plaintiff or a slightly different set of pleadings. There are, what, a half million troops in the US Army, plus the other branches of service. In theory, she could file the same damn paperwork for every single one of them and they'd all be separate cases that would need to be disposed of ("dismissed") separately. Well before that, she would be disbarred and sanctioned into a small greasy smear,.... I hope.

16th September 2009, 06:51 PM	#13
linusrichard Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lansing, Mich. Posts: 2,355	Originally Posted by dudalb Or until some judge dismisses the case "with prejudice" which means "don't bother us with this crap again". But she can still bother them with different crap another day. Sanctions are what's needed here. eta:f;b
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16th September 2009, 07:37 PM	#15
linusrichard Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lansing, Mich. Posts: 2,355	Originally Posted by skeptigirl Does this woman even have a license to practice law in the US? Sadly, yes. ETA: Here. ETA2: Sadly yes, for now.
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Arus808 Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,811	Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson She should be dis-allowed from filing any lawsuits about anything. i was hoping that the California Bar Association would take notice and finally boot her white behind and fine her ETA: I hope Rhodes turns around and SUES her for being a bad lawyer and causing her to lose money
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16th September 2009, 10:53 PM	#17
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Dr Adequate Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Waiting Long Enough By The River Posts: 17,902	Originally Posted by drkitten Not really. Dismissing a case with prejudice does indeed mean "don't bother us with THIS crap again," but you can't prevent her from bringing a case that is nearly identical in content but with a different named plaintiff or a slightly different set of pleadings. There are, what, a half million troops in the US Army, plus the other branches of service. In theory, she could file the same damn paperwork for every single one of them and they'd all be separate cases that would need to be disposed of ("dismissed") separately. Well before that, she would be disbarred and sanctioned into a small greasy smear,.... I hope. From page 1: Furthermore, Plaintiff's counsel is hereby notified that the filing of any future actions in this Court, which are similarly frivolous, shall subject counsel to sanctions. Of course, there are a lot of other courts ... --- Like Arthwollipot, I haven't enjoyed a judicial ruling so much since Dover. It was much fun. Her "conscientious objections" to serving under the current Commander in Chief apparently can be accommodated as long as she is permitted to remain on American soil. BURN!

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Puppycow Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Japan Posts: 6,323	Originally Posted by Dr Adequate they're not allowed to use the words "blowhard", "crapfest", and "whack-a-doodle-doo". I wish they'd make an exception for cases like this, though.
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bozothedeathmachine Critical Thinker Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Zürich Posts: 425	Originally Posted by Dr Adequate they're not allowed to use the words "blowhard", "crapfest", and "whack-a-doodle-doo". Originally Posted by arthwollipot Almost as satisfying as that of Judge Jones in Dover. Who needs "crapfest" when "breathtaking inanity" cuts so nicely?

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Sabrina Wicked Lovely Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Spinning through space Posts: 2,607	Originally Posted by Alareth I have an image of Orly in court in interrupting the judge, "Let me finish! Ok, ok, why are you so rude to me? LET ME FINISH!" I suddenly pictured Orly as a Canadian from South Park there...
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17th September 2009, 08:28 AM	#25
kedo1981 Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: ohio Posts: 1,181	Come on folks this whole, birther, secret Muslim, commie,crap is code for "THEYS A NEGRO IN DA WHITEHOUSE"
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17th September 2009, 08:29 AM	#26
funk de fino Dreaming of unicorns Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Alba Posts: 6,075	Originally Posted by drkitten Not really. Dismissing a case with prejudice does indeed mean "don't bother us with THIS crap again," but you can't prevent her from bringing a case that is nearly identical in content but with a different named plaintiff or a slightly different set of pleadings. There are, what, a half million troops in the US Army, plus the other branches of service. In theory, she could file the same damn paperwork for every single one of them and they'd all be separate cases that would need to be disposed of ("dismissed") separately. Well before that, she would be disbarred and sanctioned into a small greasy smear,.... I hope. How many of those 500,000 are racists though? You would love to think her pool to choose from would be small.
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17th September 2009, 08:33 AM	#27
headscratcher4 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 6,424	Originally Posted by Sabrina Someone needs to disbar this woman; YESTERDAY. You are obviously a treasonous traitor full of traitory hate for America.
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17th September 2009, 08:34 AM	#28
Alt+F4 diabolical globalist Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Department of Abandoned Places Posts: 4,853	Originally Posted by funk de fino How many of those 500,000 are racists though? You would love to think her pool to choose from would be small. You don't need to be a rascist to accept Orly's "help", you just have to not want to be deployed to Iraq. In the decision Judge Land notes that Captain Rhodes had no problems with the Commander in Chief while she was stationed in the U.S. She turned "birther" only after getting her orders.
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17th September 2009, 09:04 AM	#29
Greg_in_CO Scholar Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Centennial, Colorado Posts: 66	Memory fades, but it seems to me that the conspiracy theories surrounding Florida and the 2000 presidential election eventually receded into the background of public and media attention. Sadly, I don't see this happening with open mic the media has given to the teabaggers and their onerous subset, the birthers.
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17th September 2009, 09:31 AM	#30
Sabrina Wicked Lovely Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Spinning through space Posts: 2,607	Originally Posted by headscratcher4 You are obviously a treasonous traitor full of traitory hate for America. I'll be sure to inform my superiors so my commission can be immediately revoked.
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17th September 2009, 09:36 AM	#31
paiute Thinker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Smack in the middle of a de Broglie wavelength. Posts: 240	But wait! There's more! You all missed the later ruling where Judge Land legally changed Orly Taitz' name to Wharrgarbl.
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17th September 2009, 11:34 AM	#32
Questioninggeller Master Poster Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,552	Disbarred along with Cynthia Davis? If true, this will get her disbarred (follow link to the affidavit): Quote: Larry Sinclair: Orly Taitz Told Me to Lie, Claim That Obama Had People Killed By David Weigel 9/16/09 5:32 PM Washington Independent The affidavit that Obama foe Larry Sinclair claims to have filed in a California court, in which he accuses birther Orly Taitz of trying to get him to lie on the stand, is available right here. In it, Sinclair recounts being ushered into Taitz’s office and being told by her to “testify that three (3) member (sic) of Obama’s church were murder (sic).” Sinclair claims to have recoiled at this, at which point Taitz encouraged him to say it anyway. ... Sinclair also implicates Cynthia Davis, a Republican state representative from Missouri, claiming that she was part of a previous meeting with Taitz that Sinclair attended. Lucas Smith, the Iowa man who has been shopping around a forged Kenyan “birth certificate” for Obama, also appears in the affidavit. ... Full: Washington Independent
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17th September 2009, 11:39 AM	#33
Cleon King of the Pod People Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 14,362	The problem is that Larry Sinclair is no more believable than Orly. They're like a two-headed coin of bat guano.
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17th September 2009, 11:44 AM	#34
Vorticity Fluid Mechanic Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Alamos, NM Posts: 1,616	Originally Posted by Questioninggeller The judge's ruling was just made available at this location. From page 9: Originally Posted by Judge Land Unlike in Alice in Wonderland, simply saying something is so does not make it so. Translation: "What color is the sky in your world?"
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17th September 2009, 12:23 PM	#35
LONGTABBER PE Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,865	Things like this make you want to just shake your head. I did catch the part and agree with the other poster who correctly noted that she didnt have all these "issues" until she got her Deployment Orders. OK, I dont like being deployed any more than anyone else but she isnt the first person to try and duck a deployment and wont be the last. I can at least understand her motivation- she didnt want to come here. What I cant see is a real lawyer filing such a case the way it was constructed. Just using logic- lets say you really believe there might be a case that Obama isnt a natural born citizen. Lets also say, hypothetically there even was some real circumstantial support for the issue. Dont these people think that the Republican party and McCain specifically ( hell, even Hillary for that matter) would be all over it? I cant help but accept that they all probably looked into it for their own reasons and if there was even a shred of convincing evidence to shore up the claim- one of them would have acted on it