Obama=antichrist

headscratcher4 · 17th September 2009, 02:37 PM

Hyperbolic? Well, maybe not in New Jersey.....

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot....ew-jersey.html

These people have lost their minds...next thing you know, we'll be hanging witches again...

oldhat · 17th September 2009, 02:40 PM

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kerikiwi · 17th September 2009, 02:47 PM

It is believing there is such an entity as an anti-christ that is insane, not believing that a particular person is the incarnation of that entity.
Obama is as good a candidate as any.

Peephole · 18th September 2009, 06:54 AM

"Do you think that George W. Bush had advance knowledge of the 9/11 terrorist attacks?"

That's such a dubious question. I'd probably answer yes to that.

shemp · 18th September 2009, 07:21 AM

Advance knowledge? I'm not sure he even knew about them afterward!

Beerina · 18th September 2009, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Obama=antichrist

It's about freakin' time! Yahweh's taking His old sweet time, and it's getting pretty damned boring and pointless.

Whiplash · 18th September 2009, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by shemp

Advance knowledge? I'm not sure he even knew about them afterward!

I'm sure he did know about them after, and probably agonized about them greatly.. as well as what to do about them.

But it's more fun to just imply he's an ignorant ass clown, I know.

The Central Scrutinizer · 18th September 2009, 12:12 PM

There's been a lot of non-sense going around about Obama, but this one is actually true.

headscratcher4 · 18th September 2009, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by The Central Scrutinizer

There's been a lot of non-sense going around about Obama, but this one is actually true.

At least in New Jersey.

Brainster · 18th September 2009, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Peephole

"Do you think that George W. Bush had advance knowledge of the 9/11 terrorist attacks?"

That's such a dubious question. I'd probably answer yes to that.

Really?

Peephole · 18th September 2009, 01:18 PM

Well not specificly obviously, but there were warnings. I think it might be better to ask whether they believe Bush purposefully ignored warnings.

Brainster · 18th September 2009, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Peephole

Well not specificly obviously, but there were warnings. I think it might be better to ask whether they believe Bush purposefully ignored warnings.

For what purpose?

Peephole · 18th September 2009, 02:20 PM

To get a better picture of who are actual truthers.

ProbeX · 18th September 2009, 02:34 PM

Rachel Maddow covered this topic. There's another thread about it already.

Safe-Keeper · 18th September 2009, 05:33 PM

Quote:

"Do you think that George W. Bush had advance knowledge of the 9/11 terrorist attacks?"

That's such a dubious question. I'd probably answer yes to that.

Define 'advance knowledge'. Advance warnings, very likely. Humans are experts at 'won't happen to us' thinking, whether it comes to fire, landslides, robbery, or acts of war during peacetime. Pretty unlikely they didn't even have the slightest shred of hints.

Puppycow · 18th September 2009, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by kerikiwi

It is believing there is such an entity as an anti-christ that is insane, not believing that a particular person is the incarnation of that entity.
Obama is as good a candidate as any.

In order to believe the latter you must accept the former, so believing the latter is at least just as insane.

Puppycow · 18th September 2009, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Peephole

Well not specificly obviously, but there were warnings.

Nothing specific enough to qualify as "advance knowledge of the 9/11 terrorist attacks."

Quote:

I think it might be better to ask whether they believe Bush purposefully ignored warnings.

Whatever. Why agree with the truthers just because a question whose common-sense meaning is clear enough isn't worded in the way you would have worded it?

Tiktaalik · 18th September 2009, 06:56 PM

He IS the anti-christ.

Christ was concerned with saving souls; Obama is concerned with saving the people in the world right now.

Thus, he is B.

(vice Daniel Quinn)

kerikiwi · 18th September 2009, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

In order to believe the latter you must accept the former, so believing the latter is at least just as insane.

No. Believing a particular person is the anti-christ is less insane than the belief that such an entity can exist. (But still insane)

MikeMangum · 18th September 2009, 07:39 PM

Get it right. I thought everyone knew that Obama was the latest incarnation of Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Lord of the Sebouillia.

Here's the relevant prophecy:

Gozer the Traveler! He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the Rectification of the Vuldronaii, the Traveler came as a large and moving Torb! Then, during the Third Reconciliation of the Last of the Meketrex Supplicants, they chose a new form for him, that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of a Sloar that day, I can tell you!

Peephole · 18th September 2009, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

Nothing specific enough to qualify as "advance knowledge of the 9/11 terrorist attacks."

Well it depends on how you define it doesn't it. I just think there's a number of people who'd answer yes and not suspect Bush of any ill intent.

shemp · 19th September 2009, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Whiplash

But it's more fun to just imply he's an ignorant ass clown, I know.

Since you seem to be an expert on such matters, I shall accept this statement as fact.

applecorped · 19th September 2009, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by headscratcher4

Hyperbolic? Well, maybe not in New Jersey.....

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot....ew-jersey.html

These people have lost their minds...next thing you know, we'll be hanging witches again...

It's New Jersey, fuggetabowtit.

Skeptic Ginger · 19th September 2009, 08:26 PM

This OP has links to a Pharyngula blog entry and Rachel Maddow interviewing Frank Schaeffer on this thread's subject.

Peephole · 24th September 2009, 11:13 AM

Public Policy Polling did a nationwide poll this time:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...al_9231210.pdf

43% of Republicans don't believe Obama was born in the U.S., 27% aren't sure and 30% believe he was.

27% of Democrats believe Bush intentionally allowed the 9/11 attacks to take place because he wanted the United States to go to war, 11% aren't sure, and 62% believe he didn't.

19% of Republicans believe Obama is the Anti-Christ, 13% aren't sure and 68% believe he's not.

11% of Democrats believe Bush is the Anti-Christ, 16% aren't sure and 73% believe he's not.

17th September 2009, 02:37 PM	#1
headscratcher4 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 6,424	Obama=antichrist Hyperbolic? Well, maybe not in New Jersey..... http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot....ew-jersey.html These people have lost their minds...next thing you know, we'll be hanging witches again...
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18th September 2009, 06:54 AM	#4
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18th September 2009, 07:21 AM	#5
shemp Pithed Pither Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: cruisin' in my Rocket '88 Posts: 10,538	Advance knowledge? I'm not sure he even knew about them afterward!
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18th September 2009, 07:43 AM	#6
Beerina Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: A floating island above the clouds Posts: 14,373	Quote: Obama=antichrist It's about freakin' time! Yahweh's taking His old sweet time, and it's getting pretty damned boring and pointless.
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17th September 2009, 02:47 PM	#3
kerikiwi Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bay of Islands NZ Posts: 1,603	It is believing there is such an entity as an anti-christ that is insane, not believing that a particular person is the incarnation of that entity. Obama is as good a candidate as any.

18th September 2009, 10:31 AM	#7
Whiplash Acting like a maniac Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Shipwrecked and Comatose Posts: 4,001	Originally Posted by shemp Advance knowledge? I'm not sure he even knew about them afterward! I'm sure he did know about them after, and probably agonized about them greatly.. as well as what to do about them. But it's more fun to just imply he's an ignorant ass clown, I know.
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18th September 2009, 12:12 PM	#8
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18th September 2009, 01:04 PM	#9
headscratcher4 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 6,424	Originally Posted by The Central Scrutinizer There's been a lot of non-sense going around about Obama, but this one is actually true. At least in New Jersey.
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18th September 2009, 01:12 PM	#10
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18th September 2009, 01:18 PM	#11
Peephole Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,328	Well not specificly obviously, but there were warnings. I think it might be better to ask whether they believe Bush purposefully ignored warnings.
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18th September 2009, 02:17 PM	#12
Brainster Philosopher Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,062	Originally Posted by Peephole Well not specificly obviously, but there were warnings. I think it might be better to ask whether they believe Bush purposefully ignored warnings. For what purpose?
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18th September 2009, 02:20 PM	#13
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18th September 2009, 02:34 PM	#14
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18th September 2009, 05:33 PM	#15
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18th September 2009, 05:33 PM	#16
Puppycow Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Japan Posts: 6,323	Originally Posted by kerikiwi It is believing there is such an entity as an anti-christ that is insane, not believing that a particular person is the incarnation of that entity. Obama is as good a candidate as any. In order to believe the latter you must accept the former, so believing the latter is at least just as insane.
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18th September 2009, 05:43 PM	#17
Puppycow Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Japan Posts: 6,323	Originally Posted by Peephole Well not specificly obviously, but there were warnings. Nothing specific enough to qualify as "advance knowledge of the 9/11 terrorist attacks." Quote: I think it might be better to ask whether they believe Bush purposefully ignored warnings. Whatever. Why agree with the truthers just because a question whose common-sense meaning is clear enough isn't worded in the way you would have worded it?
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18th September 2009, 06:56 PM	#18
Tiktaalik Half True Scotsperson Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 508	He IS the anti-christ. Christ was concerned with saving souls; Obama is concerned with saving the people in the world right now. Thus, he is B. (vice Daniel Quinn)

18th September 2009, 07:22 PM	#19
kerikiwi Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bay of Islands NZ Posts: 1,603	Originally Posted by Puppycow In order to believe the latter you must accept the former, so believing the latter is at least just as insane. No. Believing a particular person is the anti-christ is less insane than the belief that such an entity can exist. (But still insane)

18th September 2009, 07:39 PM	#20
MikeMangum Muse Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 612	Get it right. I thought everyone knew that Obama was the latest incarnation of Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Lord of the Sebouillia. Here's the relevant prophecy: Gozer the Traveler! He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the Rectification of the Vuldronaii, the Traveler came as a large and moving Torb! Then, during the Third Reconciliation of the Last of the Meketrex Supplicants, they chose a new form for him, that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of a Sloar that day, I can tell you!
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18th September 2009, 09:11 PM	#21
Peephole Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,328	Originally Posted by Puppycow Nothing specific enough to qualify as "advance knowledge of the 9/11 terrorist attacks." Well it depends on how you define it doesn't it. I just think there's a number of people who'd answer yes and not suspect Bush of any ill intent.
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19th September 2009, 02:17 PM	#22
shemp Pithed Pither Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: cruisin' in my Rocket '88 Posts: 10,538	Originally Posted by Whiplash But it's more fun to just imply he's an ignorant ass clown, I know. Since you seem to be an expert on such matters, I shall accept this statement as fact.
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19th September 2009, 02:45 PM	#23
applecorped Rotten to the core Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 5,680	Originally Posted by headscratcher4 Hyperbolic? Well, maybe not in New Jersey..... http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot....ew-jersey.html These people have lost their minds...next thing you know, we'll be hanging witches again... It's New Jersey, fuggetabowtit.
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19th September 2009, 08:26 PM	#24
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24th September 2009, 11:13 AM	#25
Peephole Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,328	Public Policy Polling did a nationwide poll this time: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...al_9231210.pdf 43% of Republicans don't believe Obama was born in the U.S., 27% aren't sure and 30% believe he was. 27% of Democrats believe Bush intentionally allowed the 9/11 attacks to take place because he wanted the United States to go to war, 11% aren't sure, and 62% believe he didn't. 19% of Republicans believe Obama is the Anti-Christ, 13% aren't sure and 68% believe he's not. 11% of Democrats believe Bush is the Anti-Christ, 16% aren't sure and 73% believe he's not.
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