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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 449
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Credulous media and Adrian Pengelly: what UK sceptics are up against
In March this year I began to investigate Adrian Pengelly, a man who claims he has the ability to successfully treat cancer with his bare hands - using that mysterious "energy" known only to New Age healers and their scientifically illiterate clients, of course. Last week he was the featured "Rogue Trader" on the BBC's "Watchdog" programme, in which he was secretly filmed telling a cancer patient that he had a 60% - 65% success rate in treating cancer.
Here's a summary of what I discovered: 1 - Cancer-related website claims PLEASE NOTE: The following excerpts from Pengelly's website - www.adrianpengelly.co.uk - reflect the state of the website in March 2009. Since being exposed on the internet and TV he has made a few relatively minor alterations.
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Next, Mr Pengelly's Distance Healing:
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Next, have a look at the testimonials on Mr Pengelly's website from people who claim that he either cured their cancer or kept it in remission. It’s clear from the FAQ section of his site that Mr Pengelly knows perfectly well that he’s on thin ice here:
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No person shall take any part in the publication of any advertisement containing an offer to treat any person for cancer, or to prescribe any remedy therefor, or to give any advice in connection with the treatment thereof. http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content...eNumber=77&Nav From=2&parentActiveTextDocId=1085680&ActiveTextDoc Id=1085680&filesize=26534[/quote] Here’s a little thought experiment: imagine that you’ve just been diagnosed with cancer. Then read the following testimonials and ask yourself: “Would I be tempted to seek Adrian Pengelly’s help?” The very first one, from IL of Shropshire – who also seems to be a New Age healer - gives Adrian the credit for making her cancer disappear:
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IL goes on to make a strange claim:
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JC of Worcester also gives Adrian the credit for keeping her cancer, for which she had received chemotherapy, in remission:
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HE of Australia writes:
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K of Herefordshire provides one of those odd testimonials so frequently encountered on New Age sites – it goes into great detail about the patient’s ailments but doesn’t say exactly what, if anything, the healer did to improve the situation. She finishes by saying:
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MG of Herefordshire writes:
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AP of London’s testimonial is particularly disturbing:
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Another reply on Mr Pengelly’s FAQ page is rather disturbing:
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If Mr Pengelly wants to convince sceptics he could begin by producing: IL of Shropshire JC of Worcester BH of Birmingham MG of Herefordshire AP of London. 2 - "Sir" Adrian Pengelly and his imaginary title Mr Pengelly also claims to hold the title of "Sir" Adrian Pengelly. It was discussed by Mr Pengelly and other forum members on the website www.timetriallingforum.co.uk (Mr Pengelly is a keen racing cyclist):
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If Mr Pengelly really cannot use the term "Mr", it's because he has paid an outfit such as www.elitetitles.co.uk to change his name by deed poll to "Sir Adrian Pengelly". The title is utterly meaningless, but it speaks volumes about Mr Pengelly's dishonesty and his need to be regarded as someone special. 3 - Mr Pengelly's academic qualifications On the above forum he referred to an uncompleted PhD - sources close to him have no recollection of him even starting one. On another website he claimed:
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By the way, notice another illegal claim made on the same page:
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According to Mr Pengelly’s website he will “continue to work” in hospitals and hospices. This clearly implies that he has done so in the past. Mr Pengelly does NOT work at at least two hospices in his local area, St Michael’s Hospice in Hereford and St Richard’s Hospice in Worcester. He does however claim to work with children at his two “clinics”. Does Mr Pengelly have CRB clearance? A few days after Watchdog was aired the Daily Mail published a stupendously credulous article about Pengelly by Rebecca Hardy, a showbusiness editor who usually writes vacuous fluff about vacuous celebrities: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...are-hands.html Nowhere in this article does Hardy mention that Pengelly's claims are ILLEGAL. In fact she doesn't seem to understand this, despite the fact that it was made clear on Watchdog. Her article is essentially a free advert for Pengelly's services, and sure enough some of the people who posted comments on the article are asking how they can get in touch with Pengelly! This raises an interesting question - is the Daily Mail, through its support for Pengelly, complicit in breaching the Cancer Act of 1939? Moderately-worded posts critical of Pengelly have also been removed within a couple of hours yet some bizarre pro-Pengelly posts from people who give the impression of being mentally disturbed have been allowed to remain. I'm amused by Hardy's claim to be a sceptic (although she confuses this with being a cynic), yet she clearly knows nothing about the cold reading techniques that Pengelly used to impress her! I have reported this article to the Press Complaints Commission. |
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: N/W England
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A very disturbing read. Well done on the research. I will look at the links more thoroughly tomorrow.
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Resident Skeptical Hobbit
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Waging war on woo-woo in Winnipeg
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Bumping for the benefit of others on this forum. Alice Shortcake has put a lot of effort into this and I'd hate to see it disappear after only a couple of comments.
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The social illusion reigns to-day upon all the heaped-up ruins of the past, and to it belongs the future. The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Gustav Le Bon, The Crowd, 1895 (from the French) Canadian or living in Canada? PM me if you want an entry on the list of Canadians on the forum. |
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Muse
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 619
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Giant wall of text is daunting. Have you considered recording an audio version?
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Illuminator
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 3,099
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Fantastic work, Alice Shortcake.
The idea of making a vid isn't a bad one at all, if you can do so. Good luck with the PCC complaint. |
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 449
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Thanks, all! I'm afraid my presenting/narrating skills would make me more of a liability than an asset to the sceptical cause, but I'm doing my level best to make this info as widely available as possible. Pengelly is yet another peddler of alternative therapies jumping on the libel bandwagon, as is made clear by Quackometer. His case is now being examined by Hereford Trading Standards - I'll keep you informed of any new developments with them and with the Press Complaints Commission.
The Pengelly affair is a perfect example of how easy it is for someone to post testimonials from supposedly "cured" patients without checking on their progress (assuming that these people existed in the first place). A particularly vile example of this common practice was exposed last year on the sceptical site www.BadPsychics.co.uk; a healer called Andrew McKellar posted a testimonial from cured cancer patient Phil Hurst on his website and also featured him in a YouTube video, both of which were still online in 2008. BadPsychics contributer "Meercat" discovered that Mr Hurst had in fact died of cancer in November 2006. http://badpsychics.co.uk/thefraudfil...hp?storyid=643 http://badpsychics.co.uk/thefraudfil...hp?storyid=829 As I believe James Randi has pointed out, ANYONE can dig up this sort of information without too much difficulty if they have the patience to do so. Neither "Meercat" nor myself are professional journalists/researchers, merely concerned members of the public. Yet people like Rebecca Hardy can't even be bothered to use their Googlin' fingers before rushing into print with a pile of credulous junk... |
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Sharper than a thorn
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Great Chesterford, Essex, UK
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 449
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Thanks, BB!
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Most of the technolagy we have now, didn't sciene laugh at the idea when it was first mentioned stating it was impossible? Yet we have it not and science fully except it - Gary Mannion, "Indigo Child" and Psychic Surgeon |
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Not so much a medium as a large
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: United Kingdom
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Great stuff AS. I had a quick google after the Watchdog prog and came up with very little. I suspect you're on to something - a big web presence will bring in a lot of casual business, but also opens you up to scrutiny. Post-watchdog he may decide he's nothing to lose by expanding his internet profile, in which case you'll be well-placed to deliver a well-deserved smackdown!
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 449
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Rather than answering his critics or promising to stop making illegal claims, "Sir" Adrian wasted no time in turning to a PR agency. They set up the interview with Rebecca Hardy, who needless to say came up with that glowing account of his talents for the Daily Mail. Andy Lewis of Quackometer has come up trumps again:
http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009...f-psychic.html What an unwholesome combination - cancer quackery, spin doctoring and ethics-free journalism...
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Most of the technolagy we have now, didn't sciene laugh at the idea when it was first mentioned stating it was impossible? Yet we have it not and science fully except it - Gary Mannion, "Indigo Child" and Psychic Surgeon |
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: UK
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Even his site isn't valid XHTML unlike the declaration on his homepage! Just ran it through the validator. 25 errors!
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...Inline&group=0 |
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Dragon Killer
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Newbury, Berkshire
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I wonder if hes related to that other famous pengelly woomeister Eddy
I challenge anyone to read his website without laughing out loud at some point http://www.pphcstudygroup.org.au/edd...scoveries.html |
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 449
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For some inexplicable reason I've overlooked a PDF file on Pengelly's site containing the text of a lecture he gave in Spain last year: http://www.adrianpengelly.co.uk/lecture.pdf
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Marduk, thanks for bringing the OTHER Pengelly to my attention - I hadn't heard of him before... |
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Muse
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: The Land That Time Forgot
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Indeed you deserve much praise for your research into this quack Alice.
Have you made Adrian Pengelly aware of your research? You should and make sure he KNOWS you are watching his every move and you will continue to hound him until he stops his despicable hoodwinking of people who don't know any better at the time in their life when they need real help NOT imaginary friends. The whole thing is quite disgusting... Good luck with the PCC. If he is making Illegal claims on his website, you could report it to his ISP/Host. If all else fails, make a wax doll of him and stick pins in it. |
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The Bear Skeptic
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: A world without gods.
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Skeptics are the ignored minority no matter where or when you look; if there had been a questioning, analytical mind present in the right place and the right time, anything that's ever gone wrong in history could have been averted. But the vast majority people aren't like that. Nobody ever suggested to Torquemada that maybe those Cathars are just a bunch of harmless old men, or found Hitler in the drunk tank and gave him the number of a good psychiatrist. Nobody bothered to try bathing to fend off the Black Death (well, except the Jews, and we all know what happened to them...). Nobody told Moses it was just the tides and some mud that swallowed up Pharaoh's armies, or that the flaming thing on the horizon was probably a burning oil well. And nobody is going to tell Alex Jones he's full of ****, nail a list of 95 reasons why Pengelly is a fraud to the front door of his home or place of business, or just up and kick Glenn Beck in his lunatic crypto-Fascist balls, unless one of us does it first.
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 449
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Stray Cat, I wrote several articles about Pengelly which appeared on www.badpsychics.co.uk in April this year. Four months later Pengelly threatened the site's owner with a libel action if they were not removed (this is his usual reaction to criticism - he's even made noises about sueing the BBC over the exposure on "Watchdog"). This being England, home of the world's most ridiculous libel laws, the articles were removed.
I haven't tried complaining to Pengelly's ISP/Host - thanks for the suggestion! Here's another classic from his lecture:
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![]() Although Trading Standards are now working on Pengelly's case I'm very disappointed that it took them SIX MONTHS to begin their investigation. I first contacted them in April and have kept them posted about everything I found out about Mr Pengelly, as have at least two other people who were formerly closely associated with him personally and professionally. It's no exaggeration to say that Trading Standards' homework has been done for them. One of the most disturbing aspects of Pengelly's website is the paragraph implying that chemotherapy could adversely affect Pengelly's form of "healing", and indeed the "Watchdog" programme showed him giving this advice to a cancer patient. I feel that this alone should have galvanized Trading Standards into action. But no, they sat on this information for half a year - long enough for at least one person with a particularly virulent form of cancer to seek Pengelly's advice, be told not to undergo chemotherapy and thereby be robbed off a few precious months or even years of life. |
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Muse
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: The Land That Time Forgot
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I know the libel laws are ridiculous here in the UK, but I also know that most of these quack charlatans realise they don't really have a leg to stand on.
I have myself been threatened with court action because of things I have written and criticisms made about individuals who consider their own overblown self importance to be some sort of weapon against critics. Just the fact that he's making noises about sueing the BBC (who will have a massive legal department to make sure they are not overstepping the mark) shows Pengelly is all hot air. If I were you I'd self publish those articles on a US based website and watch him spend his time peeing into the wind with threats and gestures. If you're really worried about legal action, the internet makes it quite easy to be anonymous doesn't it? A well designed website optimsed correctly will get people to your site and warn them of the dangers of using quack cancer cures... no need to even mention him by name? Most (if not all) ISP/Webhost user agreements insist that all content uploaded and downloaded should comply with the law. If he is breaking the law, they can terminate his website and internet connection or force him to make amends to comply with the law. Also Trading Standards seem to operate on a silly basis whereby if they receive enough complains about what may seem a trivial matter, they will take action. Sadly I don't think the ASA has any jurisdiction over internet content or it would be worth contacting them about him too. Good luck.
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Stray Cat, I should have made clear that it was a leaflet produced by Pengelly which has been reported to the Advertising Standards Authority.
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Scholar and a Gentleman
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Good luck. I reported similar charlatans to the police and Trading Standards and they weren't really interested... more's the pity.
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Muse
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Dlorde, you're referring to Eddy Pengelly the time-travel crackpot. We're talking about Adrian Pengelly, the cancer-curing crackpot.
Although it would be fun if it turned out that the two are related... |
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