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Old 30th September 2009, 07:10 AM   #1
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How many troops would be needed to invade the U.S. ?

In this thread some folks speculate about invading UN troops using GPS coordinates to find their way to individual homes to round up folks and/or guns. The GPS info was needed, according to the argument, because not enough troops would understand English street signs well enough to use road maps to find their way.

That made me wonder how many troops would be necessary to invade a country like the United States.
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Old 30th September 2009, 07:29 AM   #2
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Old 30th September 2009, 07:32 AM   #3
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That made me wonder how many troops would be necessary to invade a country like the United States.
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Old 30th September 2009, 07:37 AM   #4
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Are they coming from N, S, E, or W?
From the South, about 3 per household. From the West, one guy with a theory that resistance causes cancer.
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Old 30th September 2009, 07:50 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
In this thread some folks speculate about invading UN troops using GPS coordinates to find their way to individual homes to round up folks and/or guns. The GPS info was needed, according to the argument, because not enough troops would understand English street signs well enough to use road maps to find their way.

That made me wonder how many troops would be necessary to invade a country like the United States.
Depends

You mean to survive long enough to reach the shore or actually accomplish anything?

Dont concern yourself with invading UN troops- after seeing them in combat for the last 30 years, all of them combined arent capable of "invading" the public entrance to any city park without 50% casualties ( and thats with nobody firing on them yet).
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Old 30th September 2009, 07:59 AM   #6
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Technically, it would only take a few. To do so successfully would take a lot more.
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Old 30th September 2009, 08:08 AM   #7
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Ah yes, in the era of spy sattelites and UAV's, we have to send census workers with a GPS tracker to find out where republicans live so we can round them up for our FEMA/Soylent Red camps.

Also, define "invade". What constitutes a succesful invasion, taking control of teh government? There are easier ways than pure military brute force - which would be stupid to undertake against the US anyway compared to guerilla warfare.
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Old 30th September 2009, 08:09 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by aggle-rithm View Post
Technically, it would only take a few. To do so successfully would take a lot more.
That being the key word

The last known successful invasion of the US took 4 people. They were John, Paul, Ringo and George. They still hold the high ground on Billboard after over 40 years.
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Old 30th September 2009, 08:10 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by aggle-rithm View Post
Technically, it would only take a few. To do so successfully would take a lot more.
Heh.

I knew a guy who knew a guy.....okay, I know what you're thinking, but this really is a good story....


This guy was in the Canadian Reserves - weekend soldier types, think National Guard, but they're federal. He was on some sort of exercise, that involved driving a truck. That happened to have a few infantry guys in the back. He, for some reason, decided it would be a good idea to nip over the US border to buy some cheap smokes and beer - hey, we're Canadian, it's what we do.

He returns to Canada to be met at the border by the MPs, who charged him with "Invading an Allied Nation".


So, yeah, it really doesn't take that many, as long as they're Canadian.
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Old 30th September 2009, 08:31 AM   #10
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I think it's virtually impossible for the United States to be successfully invaded no matter how many troops might be involved. Any nation or group of nations stupid enough to try this would quickly see their invasion forces destroyed before they even made it here. And if by some miracle, a significant portion did make it, they would have a hundred million armed civilians to deal with in addition to the military.
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Old 30th September 2009, 08:49 AM   #11
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According to this book and movie, a handful wearing chainmail and armed with longbows can be successful.
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Old 30th September 2009, 09:02 AM   #12
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I've got to bring out the quote again:

"Well there are certain sections of New York, Major, that I wouldn't advise you to try to invade." - Richard Blaine
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Old 30th September 2009, 09:29 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by dtugg View Post
I think it's virtually impossible for the United States to be successfully invaded no matter how many troops might be involved. Any nation or group of nations stupid enough to try this would quickly see their invasion forces destroyed before they even made it here. And if by some miracle, a significant portion did make it, they would have a hundred million armed civilians to deal with in addition to the military.
That's my opinion as well. When one combines:

1) the size of the U.S.
2) the population of the U.S.
3) the percentage of the U.S. with guns
4) the defensive armaments of the U.S.

then invading to the point where you are actually sending soldiers to specific households to perform a mission is simply impossible.

So why do the CTers believe that barcodes on the back of traffic signs are directional markers for the invading UN forces (IUNF), having GPS coordinates of houses is a sign of the coming invasion, black helicopters are also a sign of the impending IUNF, and building fences around decommissioned military bases is a sign of the coming invasion?
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Old 30th September 2009, 09:34 AM   #14
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Old 30th September 2009, 10:08 AM   #15
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Does'nt matter how many, the Wolverines will get them.
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Old 30th September 2009, 10:10 AM   #16
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Nineteen + US "incompetence".
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Old 30th September 2009, 10:24 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by RoboTimbo View Post
According to this book and movie, a handful wearing chainmail and armed with longbows can be successful.
Didn't even have to hit your links!!! Don't forget glasses and the necessity of capturing a civilian with a very powerful bomb!!!

Wonderful book and film!!
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Old 30th September 2009, 10:32 AM   #18
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Didn't even have to hit your links!!! Don't forget glasses and the necessity of capturing a civilian with a very powerful bomb!!!

Wonderful book and film!!
I raise my glass of Pinot Grand Fenwick to you, sir.
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Old 30th September 2009, 11:09 AM   #19
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Is the U.S. military going to fight back or are they in on it? Because most conspiracy theorists think that the U.S. government and military are part of the plan.
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Old 30th September 2009, 12:35 PM   #20
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This whole scenario is a bit ridiculous even to speculate on.
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Old 30th September 2009, 12:40 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by grandthefttoaster View Post
Is the U.S. military going to fight back or are they in on it? Because most conspiracy theorists think that the U.S. government and military are part of the plan.
Even if the military were in on it, I still don't see a successful invasion (although technically it would be more of a coup than an invasion). Yes, the CTs believe that the higher levels of the military would be in on it, but could one really rely on rank and file soldiers to fire on civilians in their homes?

Also, if the military were in on it, then couldn't they simply use roadmaps and not need GPS coordinates of each house?
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Old 30th September 2009, 12:59 PM   #22
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Nineteen + US "incompetence".
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Old 30th September 2009, 01:36 PM   #24
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well if the US is in on it then not a lot. If they want to get rid of huge populations they would just used bombs..even a nuke...blame it on North Korea or Iran. Hey I'm giving the NWO good ideas here.
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Old 30th September 2009, 02:38 PM   #27
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How many troops would be needed to invade the U.S. ?
Oh no, no, I could tell you but you need to do your own research, alienface would-be invader. Nice try tho!
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Old 30th September 2009, 02:58 PM   #28
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If nukes are somehow off the table and the invadeing militry is equal to the US militry then the standard 3:1 rule would suggest between 4.4 and 8.8 million depending on how much of it's reserves the US could call up.
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
That's my opinion as well. When one combines:

1) the size of the U.S.
2) the population of the U.S.
Historicaly both large and populious countries have been sucessfuly invaded.

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3) the percentage of the U.S. with guns
Lightly armed and with poor logistics. Don't appear to present much of a threat during the invasion phase these days. The average citizen's milita memeber in the US falls well short of Hezbollah.

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4) the defensive armaments of the U.S.
With the size of the US it's offensive armaments are likely to present you with more problems.
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
Even if the military were in on it, I still don't see a successful invasion (although technically it would be more of a coup than an invasion). Yes, the CTs believe that the higher levels of the military would be in on it, but could one really rely on rank and file soldiers to fire on civilians in their homes?
Yes. Militaries have been doing that for a long time. For the actual shooting people their homes you use some varation of death squads but in general yes troops have historicaly followed orders to shoot civilians of their own countries.
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I think it's virtually impossible for the United States to be successfully invaded no matter how many troops might be involved. Any nation or group of nations stupid enough to try this would quickly see their invasion forces destroyed before they even made it here. And if by some miracle, a significant portion did make it, they would have a hundred million armed civilians to deal with in addition to the military.
Post about 2000 it's become pretty clear that any sub-hezbollah level of milita posses a fairly limited threat to a significantly skilled (remeber much of the Iraqi population was armed) or ruthless (Chechnya) invader during the invasion phase.
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Post about 2000 it's become pretty clear that any sub-hezbollah level of milita posses a fairly limited threat to a significantly skilled (remeber much of the Iraqi population was armed) or ruthless (Chechnya) invader during the invasion phase.
You forget:
We had some friendly places near by to land humongus cargo, fighter, and bomber aircraft, as well as friendly ports for supply and manning up.
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Originally Posted by rwguinn View Post
You forget:
We had some friendly places near by to land humongus cargo, fighter, and bomber aircraft, as well as friendly ports for supply and manning up.
Not relivant to the issue of an armed population.
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Not relivant to the issue of an armed population.
But it IS relevant to the issue being discussed in the OP.
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But it IS relevant to the issue being discussed in the OP.
Not really. Saddam proved that it is quite possible to oppress an armed population.
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Yes, by Saddam is dead. And Saddam's people were morons. Come take my gun. You can have it when you pry it out of my cold, dead, fingertips.
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Lightly armed and with poor logistics. Don't appear to present much of a threat during the invasion phase these days. The average citizen's milita memeber in the US falls well short of Hezbollah.
You apparently arent too familiar with how we really are.

Let them come up from the coast. About 2 deer clubs will take them out.

What was that Cornwallis said " an army of peasants"

Its not just "having" those guns- we know how to USE them and DEPLOY them too.
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Does'nt matter how many, the Wolverines will get them.
You beat me to it. Wolverines= "Red Dawn". Eight high school kids defeat an invading Soviet/Cuban army. We have more than enough high school kids to hold off any number of invading troops.
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So why do the CTers believe that barcodes on the back of traffic signs are directional markers for the invading UN forces (IUNF), having GPS coordinates of houses is a sign of the coming invasion, black helicopters are also a sign of the impending IUNF, and building fences around decommissioned military bases is a sign of the coming invasion?

Because they are lunatics.
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