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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: USA
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How many troops would be needed to invade the U.S. ?
In this thread some folks speculate about invading UN troops using GPS coordinates to find their way to individual homes to round up folks and/or guns. The GPS info was needed, according to the argument, because not enough troops would understand English street signs well enough to use road maps to find their way.
That made me wonder how many troops would be necessary to invade a country like the United States. |
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When I see all the kooky things posted on the JREF forums, I can't help but think of Max Bialystock's lament: "They come here, they all come here, how do they find us?" |
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NLH
Join Date: Oct 2002
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African or European?
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Wits' End
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[Fox News]
Just one. Because Obama will have confiscated all the weapons that we would use in our defense and legalized gay marriage to weaken our moral fiber too much to resist.[ This can only be prevented by wearing tea bags on your hat and shouting at elected officials during town hall meetings.[/Fox News] |
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Philosopher
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: 16 miles from 7 lakes
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Are they coming from N, S, E, or W?
From the South, about 3 per household. From the West, one guy with a theory that resistance causes cancer. |
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,865
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Depends
You mean to survive long enough to reach the shore or actually accomplish anything? Dont concern yourself with invading UN troops- after seeing them in combat for the last 30 years, all of them combined arent capable of "invading" the public entrance to any city park without 50% casualties ( and thats with nobody firing on them yet). |
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Philosopher
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Austin, TX
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Technically, it would only take a few. To do so successfully would take a lot more.
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Muse
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Ah yes, in the era of spy sattelites and UAV's, we have to send census workers with a GPS tracker to find out where republicans live so we can round them up for our FEMA/Soylent Red camps.
Also, define "invade". What constitutes a succesful invasion, taking control of teh government? There are easier ways than pure military brute force - which would be stupid to undertake against the US anyway compared to guerilla warfare. |
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Jun 2008
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NWO Kitty Wrangler
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada
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Heh.
I knew a guy who knew a guy.....okay, I know what you're thinking, but this really is a good story.... This guy was in the Canadian Reserves - weekend soldier types, think National Guard, but they're federal. He was on some sort of exercise, that involved driving a truck. That happened to have a few infantry guys in the back. He, for some reason, decided it would be a good idea to nip over the US border to buy some cheap smokes and beer - hey, we're Canadian, it's what we do. He returns to Canada to be met at the border by the MPs, who charged him with "Invading an Allied Nation". So, yeah, it really doesn't take that many, as long as they're Canadian. |
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Pseudoskeptic Government Loyalist
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NWO headquarters
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I think it's virtually impossible for the United States to be successfully invaded no matter how many troops might be involved. Any nation or group of nations stupid enough to try this would quickly see their invasion forces destroyed before they even made it here. And if by some miracle, a significant portion did make it, they would have a hundred million armed civilians to deal with in addition to the military.
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Bitter Whiner
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 9,503
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I've got to bring out the quote again:
"Well there are certain sections of New York, Major, that I wouldn't advise you to try to invade." - Richard Blaine |
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: USA
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That's my opinion as well. When one combines:
1) the size of the U.S. 2) the population of the U.S. 3) the percentage of the U.S. with guns 4) the defensive armaments of the U.S. then invading to the point where you are actually sending soldiers to specific households to perform a mission is simply impossible. So why do the CTers believe that barcodes on the back of traffic signs are directional markers for the invading UN forces (IUNF), having GPS coordinates of houses is a sign of the coming invasion, black helicopters are also a sign of the impending IUNF, and building fences around decommissioned military bases is a sign of the coming invasion? |
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When I see all the kooky things posted on the JREF forums, I can't help but think of Max Bialystock's lament: "They come here, they all come here, how do they find us?" |
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Does'nt matter how many, the Wolverines will get them.
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Penultimate Satisfaction
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Nineteen + US "incompetence".
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Cythraul Enfys
Join Date: May 2006
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Hostile Nanobacon
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Thinker
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 184
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Is the U.S. military going to fight back or are they in on it? Because most conspiracy theorists think that the U.S. government and military are part of the plan.
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AI-EE-YAH!
Join Date: Nov 2006
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This whole scenario is a bit ridiculous even to speculate on.
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: USA
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Even if the military were in on it, I still don't see a successful invasion (although technically it would be more of a coup than an invasion). Yes, the CTs believe that the higher levels of the military would be in on it, but could one really rely on rank and file soldiers to fire on civilians in their homes?
Also, if the military were in on it, then couldn't they simply use roadmaps and not need GPS coordinates of each house? |
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When I see all the kooky things posted on the JREF forums, I can't help but think of Max Bialystock's lament: "They come here, they all come here, how do they find us?" |
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Dreaming of unicorns
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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C'mon guys. Jason Voorhees took Manhattan all by himself. A few more of his type and the US - hell, the world - is toast!
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Wicked Lovely
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Short answer: Lots.
Long answer: HELLA lots. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming. |
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"Ethics is knowing the difference between what you have a right to do and what is the right thing to do."-Justice Potter Stewart, US Supreme Court Justice 1915-1985 Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons... for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup. ![]() I'd kill you, but you might bleed on my shoes. |
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Scholar
Join Date: Feb 2007
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One to hold the ladder and -
sorry, wrong thread. |
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Mar 2009
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well if the US is in on it then not a lot. If they want to get rid of huge populations they would just used bombs..even a nuke...blame it on North Korea or Iran. Hey I'm giving the NWO good ideas here.
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Master Poster
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Anti-homeopathy illuminati member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: UK
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If nukes are somehow off the table and the invadeing militry is equal to the US militry then the standard 3:1 rule would suggest between 4.4 and 8.8 million depending on how much of it's reserves the US could call up.
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Anti-homeopathy illuminati member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: UK
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Historicaly both large and populious countries have been sucessfuly invaded.
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Anti-homeopathy illuminati member
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Anti-homeopathy illuminati member
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Philosopher
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Beer-Swilling Semiliterate
Join Date: Jul 2006
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I think the answer is "more than anyone has".
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Anti-homeopathy illuminati member
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AI-EE-YAH!
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Illuminator
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Florida
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Yes, by Saddam is dead. And Saddam's people were morons. Come take my gun. You can have it when you pry it out of my cold, dead, fingertips.
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Pyrrhonist
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