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Old 6th April 2011, 02:14 AM   #5361
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Our freedoms are limitless as long as you follow the Ten Commandments, always keep looking to God for your daily Bread... and making sure to always read the Fine Print, of course. Your right to contract is one of your greatest, as well. Aren't they ALL great??
But we don't follow the 10 Commandments do we?

For example it's lawful to kill in self defence or in war. One can commit adultery & you don't have to honour your mother and father. Fact is it's a set religious moral rules that people who follow Abramic religions are supposed to comply with. In other words it's not Law.
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Old 6th April 2011, 03:30 AM   #5362
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Judging by the number of sects within the church and the difference in view between them it seems the Bible is very much open to interpretation. Add to that the Freeman love of taking a phrase here and a word there and making something that was never intended, it would be a nightmare for anyone travelling between communities.
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Old 6th April 2011, 03:50 AM   #5363
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If Christians do not believe this, then they are not Christian.
Would they be Scottish Christians?
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Old 6th April 2011, 11:29 AM   #5364
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Would they be Scottish Christians?
Scottish porridge-eating Christians?
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Old 6th April 2011, 11:35 AM   #5365
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Originally Posted by grndslm View Post
Is this not why Common Law comes into existence... because "my rights extend to where another man's nose begins"?? Do they not?
So let's talk noise ordinances. Are those laws or statutes? Are there victims or just whiners?

If they are valid laws, who decides what the limit is?
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Old 6th April 2011, 12:56 PM   #5366
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Originally Posted by grndslm View Post
"Bad" according to whom?

All people, or maybe just 30% of the people, or maybe just government employees / franchisees??

- Is freedom of religion bad? Must there not be differing morals w/ such a system of different principals, in regards to smoking some bud, for example?
- Must people ask to carry a weapon on them to defend themselves and those around them, or do they have that natural right to protect themselves??

Is this not why Common Law comes into existence... because "my rights extend to where another man's nose begins"?? Do they not?

No man can tell me what to do, for I am not a slave. If I harm no one, by what authority is he acting? Acting under Color of Law or Color of Office to violate someone's right is going to end that officer in federal pen for several years.

No man can tell me what to do, for I am not an animal... God only gave men dominion over animals. A Child of God came down from Heaven and even told us that we are to look to NO MAN on Earth, no pharisees, no scribes, no men whatsoever. The line goes... "Why do you call me Good? There is only One that is Good."

He actually gave that same message over and over in various ways --> "Go straight to the source".

If Christians do not believe this, then they are not Christian. That is the right of someone to remain secular. But my right to believe that I am free to the extent I can do what I want provided I don't infringe on the rights of others... starts with my Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Association, Freedom of Assembly, Freedom to Speak, Freedom to Remain Silent, Freedom to change my Name, Freedom to Build an Automobile and Travel in it, etc.

Our freedoms are limitless as long as you follow the Ten Commandments, always keep looking to God for your daily Bread... and making sure to always read the Fine Print, of course. Your right to contract is one of your greatest, as well. Aren't they ALL great??
Sorry,I do not value the opinion of a no-planer.
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Old 6th April 2011, 02:26 PM   #5367
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He's a 'helicopter bomber' now.
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Old 6th April 2011, 02:59 PM   #5368
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Would they be Scottish Christians?
Not TRUE ones, thas for sure.
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Old 6th April 2011, 03:18 PM   #5369
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I spoke to a solicitor today and whilst we both laughed at the freeman concept we discussed the ALL CAPS theory.
She simply said that in days of old when everything was hand written names were always written in block capitals to distinguish them from the rest of the written words.
In Germany and France it's still very common to use ALL CAPS for the surname.

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The thought occured to me that FMOTL is analogous with religion.
Some of the freeman videos I've seen have members of the Moorish Temple of Science in them. I drive past there once in a while; they wear cool hats. Anyway, I have wondered if there is any connection.
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Old 7th April 2011, 11:25 AM   #5370
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Originally Posted by grndslm View Post
Our freedoms are limitless as long as you follow the Ten Commandments, always keep looking to God for your daily Bread... and making sure to always read the Fine Print, of course.
That's got to be another stundie right there.

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Old 8th April 2011, 10:20 AM   #5371
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Scottish porridge-eating Christians?
Well, it depends. Salt or sugar?
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Well, it depends. Salt or sugar?
Surely that is irrelevant so long as it is deep fried with a Mars Bar coating


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Old 9th April 2011, 05:59 PM   #5373
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Surely that is irrelevant so long as it is deep fried with a Mars Bar coating
I will admit I like Scotch eggs, but you can lose the Mars Bars.
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You can get deep fried battered Pizza as well.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
You can get deep fried battered Pizza as well.
I'm pretty sure you can get those and deep fried Mars Bars in Corby so no need to go to Scotland (some of Scotland went to Corby).
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Old 10th April 2011, 09:18 AM   #5376
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Originally Posted by ComfySlippers View Post
Surely that is irrelevant so long as it is deep fried with a Mars Bar coating
Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
You can get deep fried battered Pizza as well.
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I'm pretty sure you can get those and deep fried Mars Bars in Corby so no need to go to Scotland (some of Scotland went to Corby).
You can get all that, as well as fried pickles, fried Oreos, and fried ice cream at the Texas State Fair and the San Antonio Rodeo. I think we do fried Snickers or Milky Ways instead of Mars Bars, though. And then of course there's the great-great-grampa of them all, the corn dog!
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Old 10th April 2011, 10:49 AM   #5377
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You can get all that, as well as fried pickles, fried Oreos, and fried ice cream at the Texas State Fair and the San Antonio Rodeo. I think we do fried Snickers or Milky Ways instead of Mars Bars, though. And then of course there's the great-great-grampa of them all, the corn dog!
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You forgot fried beer, and for those more health-conscious (!) fried club salad, served with fried lemonade.
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Corn Dog?

Battered Sausage you mean? We get them in the Chip Shop. I go for the Jumbo size
We don't get the stick though.

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Old 10th April 2011, 03:06 PM   #5379
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Corn Dog?

Battered Sausage you mean? We get them in the Chip Shop. I go for the Jumbo size
We don't get the stick though.
Close, but not exactly. A corn dog is an actual hot dog/frankfurter dipped in cornbread batter and deep fried. The stick is very important, and when the corn dog is gone, you have a weapon against any stray vampires you might encounter.
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and they taste weird.

or at least, they do when I make them from scratch
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Old 11th April 2011, 04:40 AM   #5381
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and they taste weird.

or at least, they do when I make them from scratch
Good job! They look perfect.

The batter is supposed to be slightly sweet - the idea is that you get a nice mix of a tiny bit of sweet from the batter, savory from the hot dog, and tangy from the mustard (it has to be yellow mustard, by the way - something like Grey Poupon or pub mustard won't get the blend of flavors right.)

But there was a discussion on FC a while back in which it developed that many Americans like a savory flavor, like sausage, mixed with a sweet flavor, like maple syrup - as when you have pancakes and sausage for breakfast - and most of the Brits thought it sounded disgusting, so we might be talking incompatible concepts.

ETA: I love that you have to go to a health food store for corn meal. For many years here in the southern U.S. cornbread was the staple bread for a lot of low-income people - rich people were sometimes called "white bread," and bread made from flour was a special treat.

In fact, one of my favorite meals (left over from a childhood that was sometimes money-strapped due to an alcoholic father) is pinto beans and cornbread. Yum!
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Ah , back on topic, at least now the freemen can relate to the thread again.
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Looks like poor Ben Lowery is getting very confused and frustrated as the inevitable penny begins to drop.

(I can't post url's yet but its on his YouTube channel)

youtube(dot)com/watch?v=h6ZProECQcc&feature=channel_video_title
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Originally Posted by Daryl Harb View Post
Looks like poor Ben Lowery is getting very confused and frustrated as the inevitable penny begins to drop.

(I can't post url's yet but its on his YouTube channel)

youtube(dot)com/watch?v=h6ZProECQcc&feature=channel_video_title
fun stuff (but a bit repetitive)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6ZPr...el_video_title
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He's so close! The sad thing is, what he really seems to want is something he can probably get. If he wants to stop "them" from debt collection, he could just file bankruptcy. Otherwise, he's right, "they" are going to come and take all of his stuff.

That whole video is just really sad. He must know deep down by now that FOTL just doesn't work - he even admitted that they're just going to come in and take his stuff. But he's so invested in it now and it sounds like he's lost so much that he doesn't seem willing to admit that the whole thing is a fraud.

Anyone who seriously believes in FOTL and has any tangible assets needs to watch that video. If you follow this path to its conclusion, you are going to end up just like that guy. This is the FOTL end-game. It doesn't work, you lose all of your stuff, and then they have no more use for you.
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Sorry to double-post, but he made another video. It's basically the same thing, but starting at around 4:54 through the video you can actually watch him realize that FOTL is a fraud.

Any FOTLer want to step to the plate and tell him what he did wrong? No egg-shell blue paper? Forget the bloody thumbprint? Or could it be that he's right and that, yes, everyone just ignored his notices?
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I have just added a comment recommending he read up on cargo cults.
It may get him to his senses?
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Originally Posted by Bosozoku View Post
Sorry to double-post, but he made another video. It's basically the same thing, but starting at around 4:54 through the video you can actually watch him realize that FOTL is a fraud.

Any FOTLer want to step to the plate and tell him what he did wrong? No egg-shell blue paper? Forget the bloody thumbprint? Or could it be that he's right and that, yes, everyone just ignored his notices?
Why don't the Freemen and women post here? They must be lurking.
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Any FOTLer want to step to the plate and tell him what he did wrong?
He did nothing wrong, he did it all by the book, he made sure he followed the FMOTL manual to the letter.

And guess what, thats why it didnt work.
It wont matter though , we can simply wait for the next "straw clutcher" to come along and make an arse of him/herself.
Its all good fun watching them fail, I couldnt care less about the idiots who do it, its the ones telling others to do it that gets my goat.
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You can get all that, as well as fried pickles, fried Oreos, and fried ice cream at the Texas State Fair and the San Antonio Rodeo. I think we do fried Snickers or Milky Ways instead of Mars Bars, though. And then of course there's the great-great-grampa of them all, the corn dog!
A US Milky Way is pretty much a UK Mars Bar. What we call a Milky Way you call a 3 Musketeers.
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all these posts about chocolate are off TOPIC
http://www.thechocolatereview.net/2007/08/18/topic/
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Originally Posted by jargon buster View Post
all these posts about chocolate are off TOPIC
http://www.thechocolatereview.net/2007/08/18/topic/
Smartie pants.
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Originally Posted by jargon buster View Post
all these posts about chocolate are off TOPIC
http://www.thechocolatereview.net/2007/08/18/topic/
Niota really, FMOTL is just another form of Black Magic, even if the FMOTL themselves think that it's All Gold.
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Niota really, FMOTL is just another form of Black Magic, even if the FMOTL themselves think that it's All Gold.
Snicker, snicker...
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Thats why we all snicker at them.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GikoiBVn9s&NR=1

My comment on cargo cults and why courts ignore his papers have been deleted.
I guess he prefer his fantasy world.
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its being discussed on Ickes
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=165439
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The answer is quite simple: THEY will never listen. They will never admit they are wrong and they will never do their job properly. They don't care if we know they are wrong. Look at the Queen's oath. She breaks it. Because of that, Parliament has no validity. None of their laws are legal. It doesn't matter if we point this out to them. They will ignore us.

The law is whatever they say it is. They will change the goal posts whenever they want to. Not much different to the Soviet Union in that respect.

Slaves cried out for Justice. They had Right on their side. But they were ignored. The Commanches said their land had been stolen. It had been. But they were ignored.
freemen wanted to welch out of paying their way,they couldnt, and they were ignored *

The people in power will never willingly give up their power.

You can't confront them as an equal because they will do whatever they want. You have to use guerrilla tactics and never let them pin you down and never let them know what you are up to. It's like the census tactics. The best one is to ignore them. Standing up to them might feel better but, if they want to, they will have you arrested.
* I added that one, but it adds perspective
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Old 12th April 2011, 05:25 AM   #5399
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How does the Queen break her oath?
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Old 12th April 2011, 05:49 AM   #5400
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The Queen solemnly promised to, now notice: Govern the people of the UK, Great Britain and Northern Ireland. (I won't deal with the Commonwealth now as they are a separate issue). The problem for her and us is, that by July of this year (2008) she will no longer govern us at all. She will be a Queen without a Kingdom - period. We will be governed by an atheistic foreign power, based in various cities in Europe i.e. Brussels and Strasbourg et al. As I write nearly 80% of our laws now emanate from Brussels and our 'hard working' MP's just rubber stamp these foreign directives. By July, these same MP's will have nothing to do at all, as civil servants will be carrying out Brussel's instructions completely. As one commentator accurately put it, British MP's are like: "Turkeys voting for Christmas!". On a sadder note it would seem that Her Majesty is doing much the same thing. So straight away we can see that she has broken her promise to govern us.

What other promise has she broken? Why, that of religion. The EU Superstate is atheistic and to this Satanic power she has given her Kingdom. Having done that how can she fulfill her other promise, and let's use the words she swore to uphold:

"Will you to the utmost of your power maintain the Laws of God and the true profession of the Gospel? Will you to the utmost of your power maintain in the United Kingdom the Protestant Reformed Religion established by law? Will you maintain and preserve inviolably the settlement of the Church of England, and the doctrine, worship, discipline, and government thereof, as by law established in England?"

The Queen. All this I promise to do.

Now here's the rub, how will a powerless Monarch without a Kingdom be able to keep the above promises whilst living in the identity-less principality of an undemocratic atheistic Soviet/Fascist superstate? (The nation of England by name will disappear.) The mind boggles and yet that is the very idea we as a people are expected to swallow as we're hood winked by the liars and traitors that govern us.

Now, as a final point Her Majesty professes to have a Christian Faith, but then so does President Bush and I know that he, of Bohemian Grove and the Satanic Skull & Bones secret society, is lying, so where does that leave our much loved Queen who is the matron of 33rd Degree Free Masonry in the UK and makes Knights of the Realm or of the Order of the Garter, a ritual and institution that has its origins steeped in the occult. None of this is looking very positive for her, I am sorry to have to say, but then King Saul made a similar mistake when he sought the advice of a necromancer or dealer in evil spirits instead of God's Holy Prophets and we all know how that story ended, don't we. If you don't, then check it out in 1 Samuel for it carries a stark warning for the leaders of Britain and the USA today.

You have been warned in the love of The Lord Jesus Christ.

Charles Crosby.
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