Was Jesus hysterical?

[volatile]

Was Jesus hysterical?
I have often taken flack from fellow atheists and others for saying that I think Jesus was an uncontrollably emotional person. Of course, accepting him as hysterical doesn't mean I believe he walked on water, raised the dead, healed the blind, cleansed lepers, cast out demons, fed thousands with a singel basket of loaves and fishes, or that he himself was raised from the dead. Nevertheless, I've been rather surprised at the vehemence and fury of some of those who seem righteously pissed that I accept that Jesus was an over-emotional, if comparitively minor, messianic pretender.

[AdinDraco]

Didn't he kill a tree by using his magic to force it to produce fruit out of season?! Guy got pissed at a tree. He also showed pure pre-meditation by hand constructing the scourge(/whip/flail - don't have the reference handy) he used to beat the snot out of the moneylenders. Dude had a temper and held grudges (like father, like son).

[Slayhamlet]

Is sweating blood a symptom of hysteria?

[volatile]

Originally Posted by Slayhamlet

Is sweating blood a symptom of hysteria?

If it isn't, it should be.

[Akhenaten]

Originally Posted by Slayhamlet

Is sweating blood a symptom of hysteria?

Given the Latin and Greek roots of the word 'hysteria' it wouldn't seem too surprising.

Maybe we should all be following Jesette.

[laca]

All I can commit to is that the Jesus story is hysterical.

[HansMustermann]

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

Given the Latin and Greek roots of the word 'hysteria' it wouldn't seem too surprising.

Maybe we should all be following Jesette.

I was thinking the same for a while, actually, but starting more from the Jesus Haploid Christ angle. While there is a _very_ slim probability that a cell in the womb lining would reset to zygote (such resets do occasionally happen, at least as partial reset, and result in a pretty ghastly kind of cancer... a jumbled mess with teeth, eyes, etc) and actually be born without a father, there's nowhere the offspring could get an Y chromosome from. Are you thinking what I'm thinking, Pinky?

I mean, hmm, Judaism had a more pissed-off and nasty God. A properly male God. Then Jesus comes and preaches love and getting along with each other and whatnot. Hmm... Would be funny if we had a woman saviour... and her religion was used to preach discrimination against women.

(Of course, the more mundane explanations include "there was no Jesus" and "Mary took it up the rear end." And Occam's Razor, and all that.)

[Akhenaten]

Originally Posted by HansMustermann

<snippy>

... a jumbled mess with teeth, eyes, etc

Christianity in a nutshell.

+ 10 billion bonus points for Jesus Haploid Christ.

[Hux]

He couldn't have been too delighted when they nailed Him up. 'A bit disappointed' is how I would characterise it.

Hysterical? Well He was when it came to Demons. Obsessed he was. And what about them poor pigs? Yes He was hysterical at times.

[Darth Rotor]

Originally Posted by volatile

Was Jesus hysterical?
I have often taken flack from fellow atheists and others for saying that I think Jesus was an uncontrollably emotional person. Of course, accepting him as hysterical doesn't mean I believe he walked on water, raised the dead, healed the blind, cleansed lepers, cast out demons, fed thousands with a singel basket of loaves and fishes, or that he himself was raised from the dead. Nevertheless, I've been rather surprised at the vehemence and fury of some of those who seem righteously pissed that I accept that Jesus was an over-emotional, if comparitively minor, messianic pretender.

As portrayed in Scripture, he seems to have been quite calm, a Temple trashing here and there considered.

DR

[Hux]

And he was awful to His Mother.

[Darth Rotor]

Originally Posted by Hux

And he was awful to His Mother.

???

Missed the ref on that one.

[Marduk]

Quote:

The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

definitely hysterical

[Marduk]

Originally Posted by Darth Rotor

???

Missed the ref on that one.

went and got himself crucified against her wishes didnt he

[Darth Rotor]

Originally Posted by Marduk

went and got himself crucified against her wishes didnt he

How was that against her wish? IIRC from scripture, when Peter got into Jesus' chili about him going off to die on the cross, Jesus told him "get behind me, Satan."

Got a ref for Mary doing the "please don't go to town to face Frank Miller" that I can chew over? Thanks.

DR

[Marduk]

look
http://images-1.redbubble.net/img/ar...ary-crying.jpg
still crying

[Epok]

I read a good book called Cows, Pigs, Wars and Witches by Marvin Harris. In one chapter he gives a pretty decent argument that Jesus was more likely a Jewish Warlord than a Peacenik based on the writings of Josephus.

[Eos of the Eons]

Probably a narcissist too. I don't know a cult leader who wasn't/isn't.

[RandFan]

If the documentation wasn't self serving copies of copies of copies of second and third hand stories then perhaps I could consider the premise. Then again, King Arthur might have been gay.

[Pure_Argent]

Originally Posted by volatile

Was Jesus hysterical?

Well, I thought he was pretty funny.

[TimCallahan]

Originally Posted by volatile

Was Jesus hysterical?
I have often taken flack from fellow atheists and others for saying that I think Jesus was an uncontrollably emotional person. Of course, accepting him as hysterical doesn't mean I believe he walked on water, raised the dead, healed the blind, cleansed lepers, cast out demons, fed thousands with a singel basket of loaves and fishes, or that he himself was raised from the dead. Nevertheless, I've been rather surprised at the vehemence and fury of some of those who seem righteously pissed that I accept that Jesus was an over-emotional, if comparitively minor, messianic pretender.

Cute.

[yy2bggggs]

Originally Posted by Darth Rotor

How was that against her wish?

She said so. As it is written:

"Well, if that's how you treat your poor old mother in the autumn years of her life, all I can say is, 'Go ahead. Be crucified. See if I care.'"

[Brian-M]

Originally Posted by yy2bggggs

She said so. As it is written:

"Well, if that's how you treat your poor old mother in the autumn years of her life, all I can say is, 'Go ahead. Be crucified. See if I care.'"

Somehow, I don't think he was referring to the Monty Python version of events.

[Cainkane1]

Originally Posted by volatile

Was Jesus hysterical?
I have often taken flack from fellow atheists and others for saying that I think Jesus was an uncontrollably emotional person. Of course, accepting him as hysterical doesn't mean I believe he walked on water, raised the dead, healed the blind, cleansed lepers, cast out demons, fed thousands with a singel basket of loaves and fishes, or that he himself was raised from the dead. Nevertheless, I've been rather surprised at the vehemence and fury of some of those who seem righteously pissed that I accept that Jesus was an over-emotional, if comparitively minor, messianic pretender.

Some religious biggots are not all that mentally stable. I once told some redneck fundy I didn't believe in genesis snad he almosr went ballistic saying "The bible was a divinely inspired book" over and over again. He was old but if he had been younger i don't know what he would have done. He was that crazy. Be careful of who your talking to. Some of the fanatics can be downright dangerous.

[Akhenaten]

Originally Posted by Brian-M

Somehow, I don't think he was referring to the Monty Python version of events.

Seems as valid as any other gospel. How does anyone know the Monty Python verson of events isn't closer to the truth than the NT versions?

[Darth Rotor]

Originally Posted by Marduk

look
http://images-1.redbubble.net/img/ar...ary-crying.jpg
still crying

I thought she was crying for Argentina, just to piss off that hussy Eva Peron. Thanks for the tip.

Originally Posted by RandFan

Then again, King Arthur might have been gay.

That might explain Guinevere's animal attraction to Lance A Lot's (three passes at the lists each tourny, so to speak) in simpler terms than the story as told by Mallory. Was Mallory a homophobe?

Originally Posted by Epok

I read a good book called Cows, Pigs, Wars and Witches by Marvin Harris. In one chapter he gives a pretty decent argument that Jesus was more likely a Jewish Warlord than a Peacenik based on the writings of Josephus.

That is certainly what many of the messiah hungry Jews were hoping for, as I understand the Apocalyptic strain of contemporary Jewish thought of the time. But that might not explain why so few other sources (unless they were all burned) are floating about .... hard to say.

DR