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Thunder · 7th October 2009, 06:08 PM

So my computer died, and I bought a Dell with Vista.

And now, Firefox crashes EVERY time I use it. And then it is impossible to shut it down in Task Manager.

I have now dropped Firefox and are just using IE. No problems. But I don't like the tabs in IE and IE has no spellcheck.

Anyone got any solutions for Firefox?

negativ · 7th October 2009, 07:55 PM

* Latest version?

* close Firefox
* open up your firefox settings folder ( probably C:\Users\YourNameHere\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefo x\ ) and delete the profiles folder. This will nuke all your settings including addons and bookmarks, so beware.
* start Firefox
* ???
* profit!

rjh01 · 7th October 2009, 10:50 PM

Alternative idea. Get Safari. Comes with iTunes. Is a good simple product. Is the only one that conforms to standards.

Shrike · 8th October 2009, 06:10 AM

I've been using Firefox on Vista for nearly 2 years now.
No problems. Doesn't the latest version of IE has tabs as well?

Thunder · 8th October 2009, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by rjh01

Alternative idea. Get Safari. Comes with iTunes. Is a good simple product. Is the only one that conforms to standards.

oooh...Safari. Does its tabs function work like Firefox?

I had also heard that Zonealarm Firewall was my problem. I turned that off, but it still didn't help.

I think its just Vista. It is evil. Created by Satan to make me cry.

Psi Baba · 8th October 2009, 07:32 AM

I thought Windows 7 was out by now.

rjh01 · 8th October 2009, 01:26 PM

I have no knowledge of how Firefox works. However I can have heaps of pages open at the same time and yet only one Safari application running. This means that in the task bar there is only one Safari box.

One advantage of Safari over other browsers is that I have several buttons I can press that are my favorites.

Denver · 8th October 2009, 03:41 PM

You might try deinstalling and then reinstalling Flash.

RayG · 8th October 2009, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by parky76

I had also heard that Zonealarm Firewall was my problem. I turned that off, but it still didn't help.

Yeah, it could be ZA 'cause every time Firefox updates ZA has to recognize the new version, and if it doesn't automatically ask for FF to be reconfigured you'll have to do it by hand.

I've also found that when I shut down ZA it's still running in the background unless I open Task Manager and end the process in there.

ETA: Whoa momma, those meds are making me scatterbrained... I don't have ZA running on the Vista machine, only on the XP ones... sorry...

RayG

Rat · 9th October 2009, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by rjh01

Alternative idea. Get Safari. Comes with iTunes. Is a good simple product. Is the only one that conforms to standards.

Am I to assume that you mean "The only one that at a given point in time was the first to pass the few dozen tests making up a subset of the hundreds of standards specified when tested against Acid2/3"? I'm not aware that Safari implements, for example, SVG or CSS3 fully.

moopet · 10th October 2009, 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by Denver

You might try deinstalling and then reinstalling Flash.

Or better yet, just uninstalling Flash.

..other quotes..

and Zone Alarm. It sucks the sweat [citation needed]

CelticRose · 10th October 2009, 01:44 PM

It's not Vista. I'm using Vista and Firefox works just fine for me.

Try uninstalling Firefox and then downloading the latest version. If that doesn't work, check Mozilla's website to see if there are any known issues.

@Shrike: Yes, IE7 & later have tabs.

Thunder · 10th October 2009, 05:16 PM

ok, so I uninstalled all these plug-ins and extensions that I don't use on Firefox. Cross your fingers for me cause I think...just maybe...possibly..I solved the problem.

Thunder · 12th October 2009, 04:47 PM

ok, Firefox has not frozen since I shut down most of those unused plug-ins and extensions.

i think I found the Cup of Christ!!!

Rat · 12th October 2009, 06:29 PM

It's easy to get carried away with those extensions. I have about five running on my machine at work, but exactly one here. I have NoScript running, just because I like to click on phishing links every now and then (having removed any reference to email addresses or similar from the url) just to see how plausible they are.

Woody- · 12th October 2009, 09:05 PM

Quote:

It's easy to get carried away with those extensions.

I just checked and I have 61 extensions installed plus various scripts that go along with the grease monkey and stylish extensions. About the only downside is that it takes about 10 seconds for my FireFox to startup but once its running I rarely have problems.

commandlinegamer · 17th October 2009, 06:44 AM

There add plugins/addon that will cause IE problems as well. It might be an obscure toolbar installed by a CD burning package for example. If you keep your third-party software up-to-date as well as Windows updates, you're less likely to run into compatibility problems.

Wudang · 17th October 2009, 11:12 AM

Been running FF and Vista happily for a while but recently FF warned me that my version of WPF caused problems - see https://www.mozilla.com/en-US/blocklist/

Thunder · 17th October 2009, 08:25 PM

Firefox told me yesterday that its .Net extension was causing Firefox to become unstable and frequently crash.

seems to be pretty ok..for now.

Thunder · 26th February 2010, 06:24 PM

OK...still having problems with Firefox. Think I may officially convert to IE again.

why is Firefox having such problems with Vista???

Babbylonian · 26th February 2010, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by parky76

OK...still having problems with Firefox. Think I may officially convert to IE again.

why is Firefox having such problems with Vista???

It's possible there's something wonky with your Vista installation (or a virus/trojan?). I'm using an OEM 64-bit Vista installation on the PC I built last year and I have zero problems with Firefox. Of course, I only have three plug-ins installed: Image Zoom, AdBlock, and Microsoft .NET Framework Assistant (whatever that is).

When it comes down to it, though, I only use Firefox out of inertia. I think the current version of IE is a pretty good browser, and if Firefox was causing me problems I'd have no qualms about moving to it.

jiggeryqua · 26th February 2010, 06:42 PM

Never any problem with Firefox on Vista, it will be something else.

Thunder · 26th February 2010, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Babbylonian

When it comes down to it, though, I only use Firefox out of inertia. I think the current version of IE is a pretty good browser, and if Firefox was causing me problems I'd have no qualms about moving to it.

i have imported all my favorites from Firefox and adjusted the zoom setting. more importantly, I added a spell check function, which is one of the best things about Firefox. so it looks like, for now, im back to IE.

and IE has NEVER caused my computer to get nutty.

GreenLines · 26th February 2010, 06:56 PM

Occasionally I'll get an issue with Firefox. An uninstall, then reinstall does the trick.

Thunder · 26th February 2010, 08:26 PM

been there, done that, didn't work.

CelticRose · 27th February 2010, 11:43 AM

I guess Firefox just doesn't like you, parky76. I have Vista and I never have any trouble with Firefox. That is, it never screws up my computer. I still prefer IE7.

The Central Scrutinizer · 1st March 2010, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by parky76

OK...still having problems with Firefox. Think I may officially convert to IE again.

why is Firefox having such problems with Vista???

Try Chrome.

Sunsneezer · 1st March 2010, 08:15 AM

Firefox will leave some of its setting files in your user folder:
C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox
C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Pro gram Files\Mozilla Firefox
maybe some junk is still lying around there.

Even though I concede IE8 is not that bad, as a graphic designer, IE is has been my nemesis for too long.
My main reason to use FF is bookmark sync but mainly Adblock.

dc1971 · 6th March 2010, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by parky76

So my computer died, and I bought a Dell with Vista.

And now, Firefox crashes EVERY time I use it. And then it is impossible to shut it down in Task Manager.

I have now dropped Firefox and are just using IE. No problems. But I don't like the tabs in IE and IE has no spellcheck.

Anyone got any solutions for Firefox?

I've been using Google Chrome and it's so much faster, and more reliable than Firefox! Firefox has become such a cumbersome monster, it's hard to tell the difference between it and Internet Explorer anymore.

Alan · 6th March 2010, 01:11 PM

http://www.opera.com/

Opera is also great.

moopet · 7th March 2010, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by parky76

So my computer died, and I bought a Dell with Vista.

And now, Firefox crashes EVERY time I use it. And then it is impossible to shut it down in Task Manager.

This bit makes me curious. I've not really used Vista much, but if you can't kill a user process from its Task Manager, then something is wrong, and that something isn't firefox.

7th October 2009, 06:08 PM	#1
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queens Posts: 34,947	Firefox and Vista So my computer died, and I bought a Dell with Vista. And now, Firefox crashes EVERY time I use it. And then it is impossible to shut it down in Task Manager. I have now dropped Firefox and are just using IE. No problems. But I don't like the tabs in IE and IE has no spellcheck. Anyone got any solutions for Firefox?

7th October 2009, 07:55 PM	#2
negativ Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the land of make-believe Posts: 1,905	* Latest version? * close Firefox * open up your firefox settings folder ( probably C:\Users\YourNameHere\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefo x\ ) and delete the profiles folder. This will nuke all your settings including addons and bookmarks, so beware. * start Firefox * ??? * profit!
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8th October 2009, 06:10 AM	#4
Shrike Warning: May Contain Nuts Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Waddinxveen Posts: 2,331	I've been using Firefox on Vista for nearly 2 years now. No problems. Doesn't the latest version of IE has tabs as well?
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8th October 2009, 07:26 AM	#5
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queens Posts: 34,947	Originally Posted by rjh01 Alternative idea. Get Safari. Comes with iTunes. Is a good simple product. Is the only one that conforms to standards. oooh...Safari. Does its tabs function work like Firefox? I had also heard that Zonealarm Firewall was my problem. I turned that off, but it still didn't help. I think its just Vista. It is evil. Created by Satan to make me cry.
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8th October 2009, 07:32 AM	#6
Psi Baba Homo Skepticalis Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Occupying my barstool Posts: 3,209	I thought Windows 7 was out by now.
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7th October 2009, 10:50 PM	#3
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 17,322	Alternative idea. Get Safari. Comes with iTunes. Is a good simple product. Is the only one that conforms to standards.

8th October 2009, 01:26 PM	#7
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 17,322	I have no knowledge of how Firefox works. However I can have heaps of pages open at the same time and yet only one Safari application running. This means that in the task bar there is only one Safari box. One advantage of Safari over other browsers is that I have several buttons I can press that are my favorites.

8th October 2009, 03:41 PM	#8
Denver Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 6,682	You might try deinstalling and then reinstalling Flash.

8th October 2009, 06:55 PM	#9
RayG Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Somewhere in Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,373	Originally Posted by parky76 I had also heard that Zonealarm Firewall was my problem. I turned that off, but it still didn't help. Yeah, it could be ZA 'cause every time Firefox updates ZA has to recognize the new version, and if it doesn't automatically ask for FF to be reconfigured you'll have to do it by hand. I've also found that when I shut down ZA it's still running in the background unless I open Task Manager and end the process in there. ETA: Whoa momma, those meds are making me scatterbrained... I don't have ZA running on the Vista machine, only on the XP ones... sorry... RayG
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9th October 2009, 05:25 PM	#10
Rat Not bored. Never bored. Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leicester, UK Posts: 7,155	Originally Posted by rjh01 Alternative idea. Get Safari. Comes with iTunes. Is a good simple product. Is the only one that conforms to standards. Am I to assume that you mean "The only one that at a given point in time was the first to pass the few dozen tests making up a subset of the hundreds of standards specified when tested against Acid2/3"? I'm not aware that Safari implements, for example, SVG or CSS3 fully.
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10th October 2009, 03:21 AM	#11
moopet binary decision maker Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 705	Originally Posted by Denver You might try deinstalling and then reinstalling Flash. Or better yet, just uninstalling Flash. ..other quotes.. and Zone Alarm. It sucks the sweat [citation needed]

10th October 2009, 01:44 PM	#12
CelticRose Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 1,381	It's not Vista. I'm using Vista and Firefox works just fine for me. Try uninstalling Firefox and then downloading the latest version. If that doesn't work, check Mozilla's website to see if there are any known issues. @Shrike: Yes, IE7 & later have tabs.
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10th October 2009, 05:16 PM	#13
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queens Posts: 34,947	ok, so I uninstalled all these plug-ins and extensions that I don't use on Firefox. Cross your fingers for me cause I think...just maybe...possibly..I solved the problem.

12th October 2009, 04:47 PM	#14
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queens Posts: 34,947	ok, Firefox has not frozen since I shut down most of those unused plug-ins and extensions. i think I found the Cup of Christ!!!

12th October 2009, 06:29 PM	#15
Rat Not bored. Never bored. Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leicester, UK Posts: 7,155	It's easy to get carried away with those extensions. I have about five running on my machine at work, but exactly one here. I have NoScript running, just because I like to click on phishing links every now and then (having removed any reference to email addresses or similar from the url) just to see how plausible they are.
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12th October 2009, 09:05 PM	#16
Woody- Thinker Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 135	Quote: It's easy to get carried away with those extensions. I just checked and I have 61 extensions installed plus various scripts that go along with the grease monkey and stylish extensions. About the only downside is that it takes about 10 seconds for my FireFox to startup but once its running I rarely have problems.
Woody- Thinker Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 135

17th October 2009, 06:44 AM	#17
commandlinegamer Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mazes of Menace Posts: 5,994	There add plugins/addon that will cause IE problems as well. It might be an obscure toolbar installed by a CD burning package for example. If you keep your third-party software up-to-date as well as Windows updates, you're less likely to run into compatibility problems.

17th October 2009, 11:12 AM	#18
Wudang BOFH Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sheffield Posts: 8,318	Been running FF and Vista happily for a while but recently FF warned me that my version of WPF caused problems - see https://www.mozilla.com/en-US/blocklist/
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17th October 2009, 08:25 PM	#19
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queens Posts: 34,947	Firefox told me yesterday that its .Net extension was causing Firefox to become unstable and frequently crash. seems to be pretty ok..for now.

26th February 2010, 06:24 PM	#20
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queens Posts: 34,947	OK...still having problems with Firefox. Think I may officially convert to IE again. why is Firefox having such problems with Vista???

26th February 2010, 06:42 PM	#21
Babbylonian Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lake Oswego, OR Posts: 4,571	Originally Posted by parky76 OK...still having problems with Firefox. Think I may officially convert to IE again. why is Firefox having such problems with Vista??? It's possible there's something wonky with your Vista installation (or a virus/trojan?). I'm using an OEM 64-bit Vista installation on the PC I built last year and I have zero problems with Firefox. Of course, I only have three plug-ins installed: Image Zoom, AdBlock, and Microsoft .NET Framework Assistant (whatever that is). When it comes down to it, though, I only use Firefox out of inertia. I think the current version of IE is a pretty good browser, and if Firefox was causing me problems I'd have no qualms about moving to it.
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26th February 2010, 06:42 PM	#22
jiggeryqua Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,976	Never any problem with Firefox on Vista, it will be something else.

26th February 2010, 06:52 PM	#23
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queens Posts: 34,947	Originally Posted by Babbylonian When it comes down to it, though, I only use Firefox out of inertia. I think the current version of IE is a pretty good browser, and if Firefox was causing me problems I'd have no qualms about moving to it. i have imported all my favorites from Firefox and adjusted the zoom setting. more importantly, I added a spell check function, which is one of the best things about Firefox. so it looks like, for now, im back to IE. and IE has NEVER caused my computer to get nutty.

26th February 2010, 06:56 PM	#24
GreenLines Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Minnesota, USA Posts: 370	Occasionally I'll get an issue with Firefox. An uninstall, then reinstall does the trick.
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26th February 2010, 08:26 PM	#25
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queens Posts: 34,947	been there, done that, didn't work.

27th February 2010, 11:43 AM	#26
CelticRose Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 1,381	I guess Firefox just doesn't like you, parky76. I have Vista and I never have any trouble with Firefox. That is, it never screws up my computer. I still prefer IE7.
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1st March 2010, 07:42 AM	#27
The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 42,577	Originally Posted by parky76 OK...still having problems with Firefox. Think I may officially convert to IE again. why is Firefox having such problems with Vista??? Try Chrome.
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1st March 2010, 08:15 AM	#28
Sunsneezer Thinker Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Montréal, Québec Posts: 161	Firefox will leave some of its setting files in your user folder: C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Pro gram Files\Mozilla Firefox maybe some junk is still lying around there. Even though I concede IE8 is not that bad, as a graphic designer, IE is has been my nemesis for too long. My main reason to use FF is bookmark sync but mainly Adblock.

6th March 2010, 10:26 AM	#29
dc1971 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,033	Originally Posted by parky76 So my computer died, and I bought a Dell with Vista. And now, Firefox crashes EVERY time I use it. And then it is impossible to shut it down in Task Manager. I have now dropped Firefox and are just using IE. No problems. But I don't like the tabs in IE and IE has no spellcheck. Anyone got any solutions for Firefox? I've been using Google Chrome and it's so much faster, and more reliable than Firefox! Firefox has become such a cumbersome monster, it's hard to tell the difference between it and Internet Explorer anymore.
dc1971 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,033

6th March 2010, 01:11 PM	#30
Alan Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,658	http://www.opera.com/ Opera is also great.

7th March 2010, 12:55 AM	#31
moopet binary decision maker Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 705	Originally Posted by parky76 So my computer died, and I bought a Dell with Vista. And now, Firefox crashes EVERY time I use it. And then it is impossible to shut it down in Task Manager. This bit makes me curious. I've not really used Vista much, but if you can't kill a user process from its Task Manager, then something is wrong, and that something isn't firefox.