Testimony at the UN about Israel in Gaza

boyntonstu · 21st October 2009, 11:30 AM

Testimony at the UN

Col. Richard Kemp, UK

http://www.unwatch.org/site/apps/nln...923&ct=7536409

…..Mr. President, based on my knowledge and experience, I can say this: During Operation Cast Lead, the Israeli Defense Forces did more to safeguard the rights of civilians in a combat zone than any other army in the history of warfare….

Is this source primary enough for you?

Can any country claim to be as protective to civilians as Israel was in Cast Lead?

Eyeron · 21st October 2009, 12:21 PM

Which is to be ignored. When it comes to IKsrael the UN has no credibility.

The Fool · 21st October 2009, 05:33 PM

Independant expert evidence is what this whole thing needs more of. What is Col Kemps knowledge of Cast Lead like? Was he there? What are his sources of evidence that he bases his conclusions on?

I have no doubt whatsoever that the IDF as an organization wants to safeguard civilians but the goldstone report is about what happened not about what was intended to happen.

The question is what happened on the ground...at the time....What sources does colonel Kemp have for that?

bigjelmapro · 30th October 2009, 08:23 AM

Quite a bit more than the self-proclaimed 'experts' at the UN giving their input with groups like HRW. I would also be interested what level of disclosure the IDF permitted in regards to Richard Kemp.

There is, however, a giant distinction between giving testimony at the UN and that of writing reports and organizing commissions devoid of actual military experts to give these reports/commissions/etc. realistic input on the regulations/laws/conduct during war, weaponry and dealings with asymmetric warfare.

21st October 2009, 11:30 AM	#1
boyntonstu Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 916	Testimony at the UN about Israel in Gaza Testimony at the UN Col. Richard Kemp, UK http://www.unwatch.org/site/apps/nln...923&ct=7536409 …..Mr. President, based on my knowledge and experience, I can say this: During Operation Cast Lead, the Israeli Defense Forces did more to safeguard the rights of civilians in a combat zone than any other army in the history of warfare…. Is this source primary enough for you? Can any country claim to be as protective to civilians as Israel was in Cast Lead?

21st October 2009, 12:21 PM	#2
Eyeron Guest Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,774	Which is to be ignored. When it comes to IKsrael the UN has no credibility.
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21st October 2009, 05:33 PM	#3
The Fool Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 11,558	Independant expert evidence is what this whole thing needs more of. What is Col Kemps knowledge of Cast Lead like? Was he there? What are his sources of evidence that he bases his conclusions on? I have no doubt whatsoever that the IDF as an organization wants to safeguard civilians but the goldstone report is about what happened not about what was intended to happen. The question is what happened on the ground...at the time....What sources does colonel Kemp have for that?
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30th October 2009, 08:23 AM	#4
bigjelmapro Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,505	Quite a bit more than the self-proclaimed 'experts' at the UN giving their input with groups like HRW. I would also be interested what level of disclosure the IDF permitted in regards to Richard Kemp. There is, however, a giant distinction between giving testimony at the UN and that of writing reports and organizing commissions devoid of actual military experts to give these reports/commissions/etc. realistic input on the regulations/laws/conduct during war, weaponry and dealings with asymmetric warfare.
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