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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Trevose, PA
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yet another email scam
Received this email in my junkmail folder, take a look.
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Sounds like a report I heard on the radio news this morning. Slightly-too-good-to-be-true job offer translates as "we would like to borrow your bank account for a few days to launder some dirty money, thanks".
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Location: Trevose, PA
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 272
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Re-reading it, I think you're right: You receive a "customer's" cheque, then you send the bad guys 90% of its value in real cash, then the cheque bounces...
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Professional Nemesis for Hire
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Not where I should be.
Posts: 501
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Registration and VAT No. do not check out. Phone number does not exist and address doesn't check out either. I can't see what could possibly go wrong with taking them up on this extremely generous offer.
I've passed details to HMRC and Companys House. I expect Meathook Mike from Global Ceramics will be round to discuss the matter with me soon. The things I do for you guys. |
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Belief is the death of intelligence. - Robert Anton Wilson Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. - Isaac Asimov He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife. - Douglas Adams
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Trevose, PA
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Professional Nemesis for Hire
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Not where I should be.
Posts: 501
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You did good Careyp74. The site is very convincing and is aimed at overseas recruits to the "business". I could name half a dozen of my mates that would be thinking this one over simply because it appears to be coming out of the UK so must be legit.
The biggest give away is the inability to actually order online or even see any pricing. |
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Belief is the death of intelligence. - Robert Anton Wilson Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. - Isaac Asimov He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife. - Douglas Adams
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Muse
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: The Land That Time Forgot
Posts: 670
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The biggest (and most immediate) red flag is when you Google: "GLOBAL CERAMICS & TILES LTD", the only return you get is this thread.
So for a company that claims: "We are one of the Largest Tiles and Ceramic Dealers in England." They don't seem to have much of an internet presence
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Professional Nemesis for Hire
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Not where I should be.
Posts: 501
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If you Google from within the UK they are right there at no 2, right after the Tile Association web-site. Given that they have a website it follows that they have a web presence.
ETA - Amazingly I've just heard from an official source that this crowd were reported in the US back in Sept. I'm surprised that this web site hasn't been pulled. |
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Belief is the death of intelligence. - Robert Anton Wilson Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. - Isaac Asimov He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife. - Douglas Adams
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Professional Nemesis for Hire
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Not where I should be.
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Belief is the death of intelligence. - Robert Anton Wilson Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. - Isaac Asimov He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife. - Douglas Adams
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Dragon Killer
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Newbury, Berkshire
Posts: 3,073
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I love these scams, I often find myself with lots of free time, I once received the usual "relatives of a bank customer have died in a plane crash and I need your help to smuggle the money out of the country using your bank account scam"
I wrote back being honest and friendly and expressing dismay at how gullible did the scammer think I was, I told him that these scams are so well known that no one I knew would ever fall for it and suggested that local knowledge of the country being scammed would be of great benefit to his business in future. He showed great interest. I then informed him that I wasn't about to go into details for one person but if he could have 4 of his friends mail their addresses I would send the information to all of them of course as soon as I received the e mail addresses I began by saying, "for me to trust you with this valuable information you will have to show that you trust me first by sending me your bank account details. I will then forward you the information I mentioned. needless to say they didn't take me up on the offer another time I wrote back saying "This is the Ministry of Justice" "you are being detained for international fraud" "we have traced your IP address to your current location and are monitoring its usage" "in fact we know that you are online right now" "please wait by your computer for the police to arrive, they should be with you in about 5 minutes" After I started playing with these people I noticed that I no longer receive weekly mails from burkino faso bank managers and I havent won the online lottery for aaaages
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Senno Ecto Gama ĝae haš dug zae ama kibid "Stupid humans" (Wollery) "Kill all humans" (Bender) "for while heaven may be closed I am always open, even on Christmas." (Lucifer) |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,588
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Someone across the ocean can take up on this win.
I'd call, but the long-distance charges! ![]() "Hello, You have won 801,613.00 euro in the 2009 IrishLottery draw. Call (+44)7031953564 for detail or reply immediately to process your 801,613.00 euro to you in your country. Congratulation. Mrs. B. Wood P/R/O" |
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Professional Nemesis for Hire
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Not where I should be.
Posts: 501
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For hours of fun go here to see some brilliant scam baiting. I've not been there in a while but some of the stories are hilarious. They have, in the past, persuaded the scammers to have photos taken of them with a dead fish on their head and another time a loaf of bread. Those two examples are years old now but maybe still on the site.
Remember, I'm sure I do not need to remind you to be VERY careful if you decide to take these guys on. Never arrange to meet or give any personal info and NEVER phone them on any number listed especially if it is a UK number and you are UK based. Don't forget, these people are criminals; otherwise have at them and enjoy! |
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Belief is the death of intelligence. - Robert Anton Wilson Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. - Isaac Asimov He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife. - Douglas Adams
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Muse
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: The Land That Time Forgot
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It's only my madness that stops me from going insane! |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,588
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These things occur locally also, on smaller scales.
Sweet Thang deposited a "cashiers check" from an acquaintance who was "hiding money in a divorce", with the promise that she could keep a goodly portion of it. A lot of the money was withdrawn before the transaction had been thru the banking system. The check was bogus, and her account was eliminated when the bank tried to get their money back.. In reality there wasn't anywhere's near the amount of the check in the account. Her credit rating now is probably -800.
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(edited for breach of rule 10)
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: A small, blue-green world in one of the less fashionable sectors of the galaxy
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I did a whois and sent an e-mail to the host.
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Trevose, PA
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Muse
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Right about... here.
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"So, they laugh at my boner, will they? I'll show them! I'll show them how many boners the Joker can make!" -- The Joker, Batman #66 |
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: N/W England
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I cannot get over the lingo used or the grammar when it is a British one.
How many English speaking people would say their job 'fetches' money? Thats localised but not a company word. Then switching form 'My' to 'Our' in a paragraph. Then overuse of words. Not to do down literacy when people type as they talk. But it gives no credibility as a company director ![]() (I know..it does to the people who fall for it.) Linky.... http://blog.drivinglaws.org/2009/09/...ctim-to-scams/ |
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Title Free
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,074
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How about dropping 200 grand for a B.A. in philosophy? Its happened. There's unscrupulous scammers out there, for sure.
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Professional Nemesis for Hire
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Not where I should be.
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Belief is the death of intelligence. - Robert Anton Wilson Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. - Isaac Asimov He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife. - Douglas Adams
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Trevose, PA
Posts: 1,656
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Well, I guess I didn't act early enough to a previous request, so I better jump on this one:
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Illuminator
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Iowa
Posts: 3,834
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I get half a dozen scam e-mails a day, probably because I've had the same e-mail address for almost a decade, and I reply to many of them in an ameteur attempt at scambaiting someone but in all these years I've never had a reply to my reply. I've tried many different replies but nothing. I often wonder if they don't reply to the replies how on earth can any of them work?
I'm wracking my brain here and think I may have gotten a reply once but not a reply to the reply's reply or I may be remembering replying to something else as I reply to many things including replies to my replies. |
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Trevose, PA
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Well first you are going to have to distinguish between the replies and the replies' replies. A good way to do this is with gmail. You can create different email addresses that are all just the same address, that go to your main address, but distinguished between others by additional info added on to the email address.
For instance, if your gmail was starthinker@gmail.com, you can also use starthinker.one@gmail.com. That would go to your main account, but be addressed with the .one on it, so you know where the mail is coming from, see where I am coming from?
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Illuminator
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 3,099
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Anyway, off to see the scam the scammers site. |
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It's a perfect time of year. It's your hemisphere that's all wrong. from "The Wisdom of Akhenaten, the Heretic Pharaoh", vol. 12. |
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: state of denial
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: A small, blue-green world in one of the less fashionable sectors of the galaxy
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I got a reply from the hosts saying they will investigate the site. It looks like they have pulled it.
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Illuminator
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Iowa
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Naked People Running on Treadmills |¦¦|¦ |¦||||¦|||¦||¦¦|¦|||||||¦|¦¦¦¦|¦¦¦¦||¦|¦|¦¦|¦ |¦¦|¦ • Does the blue line only run on Saturday? He who doubts victory has already lost the battle. |
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Fire Warden
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Planet Earth
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: N/W England
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I thought it was slightly different..more localised than what I read, and was an example of a letter rather than an email... that was my reasoning, I always think elderly relatives need warning of postal scams..they fall dor them a hell of a lot more than us with our emails! if I got it wrong and just repeated yours, apologies
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Illuminator
Join Date: Jul 2009
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An awesome place, that.
Thanks for the heads-up! |
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It's a perfect time of year. It's your hemisphere that's all wrong. from "The Wisdom of Akhenaten, the Heretic Pharaoh", vol. 12. |
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Trevose, PA
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I will try again, I have done it out of curiosity of how it works. Perhaps the order is wrong, let me look and update afterwards.
ETA: I figured out what I said wrong. The period can be placed anywhere in your account name, as many times as you like to separate letters and numbers that already exist there. I could use careyp74@gmail.com, carey.p.74@gmail.com, c.a.re.y.p.7.4@gmail.com..........etc To ADD to your name, you would use a + sign, so my initial instruction was wrong, you would use a plus sign instead of a period. E.G. careyp74+jref@gmail.com, careyp74+atheist@gmail.com |
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Fire Warden
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Join Date: May 2005
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Great thanks Careyp74. That works on my gmail account. However it does not work on my e-mail account provided by my ISP. That is a very useful tip.
From now on I will use my gmail account to any company that needs it. If I get spam I will know who sold the address. However I do not get my full quota of spam. Could be because I do not download "free games" and the like. |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,588
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Just passing this on, for those in need of holiday funds.
"United Nations has awarded a prize donation of 950,500.00USD Provide your information to Dr Extrada E:mail: unitedgrants11@yahoo.cn Tel:44:7011148748 Sincerely, Dr Packer Extrada." |
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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"When two opposite points of view are expressed with equal intensity, the truth does not necessarily lie exactly half way between. It is possible for one side simply to be wrong." Richard Dawkins and Jerry Coyne JREF Forum Campaign Group ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Beauf
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Pays de Gex
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You'd be surprised about the literacy thing. Last year I received a letter from one of the big High St banks in the UK that was so extraordinarily badly written that I contacted the branch and their central customer service function to question whether it was genuine or not. It turned out that it was and that the branch manager, who had written it, had the literacy levels of a ten-year-old.
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"Chipeur, arręte de chiper!" "Oh Miiiinnnnnnnce!" "But Master! Does not the fire need water too? Does not the mountain need the storm? Does not your scrotum need kicking?" |
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Muse
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Cape Town
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Here's a site I've used for years: http://www.sneakemail.com/ - you register your real address on the site, and you can then generate any number of throwaway addresses that link to it. You can set the status of the various accounts in many ways - my personal favourite, being able to bounce email back as undeliverable. It's got a nice little interface that allows you to keep tabs on what email addresses you've used to subscribe to what sites. It's free, although I would recommend paying the miniscule amount suggested for the service. Credit where credit due. |
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