Scale model Saturn V launch video

bokonon · 21st November 2009, 01:20 PM

As I wasn't aware of this until today, I assume at least one other person wasn't either. This is for that person.

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1/10 scale model of the Saturn V rocket (36 feet tall!), about 40 years after the original moon launch. An amateur used blueprints of the original Saturn V in constructing this.

The Man · 21st November 2009, 03:16 PM

Nice, it’s been a long time since I was doing model rocketry. Wonder how many of those “D” engines it took, or do they have something bigger these days?

bokonon · 21st November 2009, 03:30 PM

I've never been into model rocketry, though I did put together a lot of Revell models (including their 4-ft Saturn V) in the 60s and 70s.

According to the article here, this rocket is using 9 motors -- a combination of "N" and "P" motors -- and motors today go up to "Q":

Quote:

The Loki P motor case—made of aluminum—is six inches in diameter and the AP propellant inside that case will weigh eighty pounds. Each N motor is four inches in diameter and the propellant within each of the N motor cases will weigh sixteen pounds each. That's almost 210 pounds of propellant alone.

Placed together side by side in the aft end of the forty-inch wide rocket, the motor tubes that will house all of these rocket engines look small and insignificant. But these nine motors will provide more than 8,000 pounds of thrust—enough power to pick up a Volkswagen Beetle and throw it a half mile through the air. This motor combination will ensure a thrust-to-weight ratio at takeoff of nearly five to one, said Eves, critical to achieving and maintaining a stable flight.

The Man · 21st November 2009, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by bokonon

I've never been into model rocketry, though I did put together a lot of Revell models (including their 4-ft Saturn V) in the 60s and 70s.

According to the article here, this rocket is using 9 motors -- a combination of "N" and "P" motors -- and motors today go up to "Q":

Yeah I used to do those models too; my brother did that same (or similar) Saturn V kit. Good thing I didn't have access to those bigger motors back then, I might have tried launching my Fathers Honda civic (one night me and about five of my friends picked the car up over our heads just to see if we could do it).

John Jones · 21st November 2009, 04:36 PM

Way cool.

How come it didn't go 1/10th the distance to the Moon?

More proof Apollo was faked?

Ladewig · 21st November 2009, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by John Jones

Way cool.

How come it didn't go 1/10th the distance to the Moon?

More proof Apollo was faked?

I can see that this is not your first time at the conspiracy rodeo.

X · 21st November 2009, 07:36 PM

Wow.

I'd never heard of this before, either, even though I've long thought it would be really cool to see something like a 1/10th scale Saturn V.

I wonder why they didn't go for a second stage? They had the split.

Finally, is it possible that we will ever see an amateur rocket reach the edge of space?
If so, would it have to be liquid fueled, or is that possible with solid-fueled motors?

I think it would be cool to see that.

Beady · 23rd November 2009, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by X

I'd never heard of this before, either, even though I've long thought it would be really cool to see something like a 1/10th scale Saturn V.

There's a full-scale fiberglass model Saturn V at the rocket garden in Huntsville. I think the most impressive Saturn V display I've seen, though, is your first view as you walk out of the Launch Control display at the KSC Saturn V Center.

Pantaz · 23rd November 2009, 05:48 PM

Article and photos:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/home...p/4315103.html

"The 36-ft.-tall rocket was the largest amateur rocket ever launched and recovered successfully—and at 1648 pounds, also the heaviest."

"Eves' single-stage behemoth was powered by nine motors—eight 13,000 Newton-second N-Class motors and a 77,000 Newton-second P-Class motor. (Five Newton-seconds is equivalent to about a pound of thrust.) All told, the array generated enough force to chuck a Volkswagen more than a half-mile—and sent the Saturn V more than 4440 feet straight up."
. . .
"NASA has already contacted Eves about displaying it at the U.S. Space & Rocket Center in Huntsville, Ala., beneath an original Saturn V."

21st November 2009, 03:16 PM	#2
The Man Scourge, of the supernatural Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Poughkeepsie, NY Posts: 4,035	Nice, it’s been a long time since I was doing model rocketry. Wonder how many of those “D” engines it took, or do they have something bigger these days?
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21st November 2009, 03:30 PM	#3
bokonon Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,224	I've never been into model rocketry, though I did put together a lot of Revell models (including their 4-ft Saturn V) in the 60s and 70s. According to the article here, this rocket is using 9 motors -- a combination of "N" and "P" motors -- and motors today go up to "Q": Quote: The Loki P motor case—made of aluminum—is six inches in diameter and the AP propellant inside that case will weigh eighty pounds. Each N motor is four inches in diameter and the propellant within each of the N motor cases will weigh sixteen pounds each. That's almost 210 pounds of propellant alone. Placed together side by side in the aft end of the forty-inch wide rocket, the motor tubes that will house all of these rocket engines look small and insignificant. But these nine motors will provide more than 8,000 pounds of thrust—enough power to pick up a Volkswagen Beetle and throw it a half mile through the air. This motor combination will ensure a thrust-to-weight ratio at takeoff of nearly five to one, said Eves, critical to achieving and maintaining a stable flight.
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21st November 2009, 04:26 PM	#4
The Man Scourge, of the supernatural Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Poughkeepsie, NY Posts: 4,035	Originally Posted by bokonon I've never been into model rocketry, though I did put together a lot of Revell models (including their 4-ft Saturn V) in the 60s and 70s. According to the article here, this rocket is using 9 motors -- a combination of "N" and "P" motors -- and motors today go up to "Q": Yeah I used to do those models too; my brother did that same (or similar) Saturn V kit. Good thing I didn't have access to those bigger motors back then, I might have tried launching my Fathers Honda civic (one night me and about five of my friends picked the car up over our heads just to see if we could do it).
	__________________ "Not a seat but a springboard” (1942 Winston Churchill) "As he who, seeking asses, found a kingdom" (1671 Milton "Paradise Regained") "for it seem'd A void was made in nature, all her bonds Crack'd; and I saw the flaring atom-streams And torrents of her myriad universe, Ruining along the illimitable inane, Fly on to clash together again, and make Another and another frame of things For ever." (1868 Tennyson "Lucretius")

21st November 2009, 04:36 PM	#5
John Jones Thinker Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 249	Way cool. How come it didn't go 1/10th the distance to the Moon? More proof Apollo was faked?
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21st November 2009, 05:02 PM	#6
Ladewig Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 8,961	Originally Posted by John Jones Way cool. How come it didn't go 1/10th the distance to the Moon? More proof Apollo was faked? I can see that this is not your first time at the conspiracy rodeo.
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21st November 2009, 07:36 PM	#7
X Slide Rulez 4 Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Follow the scratchy sounds of a violin novice... Posts: 2,188	Wow. I'd never heard of this before, either, even though I've long thought it would be really cool to see something like a 1/10th scale Saturn V. I wonder why they didn't go for a second stage? They had the split. Finally, is it possible that we will ever see an amateur rocket reach the edge of space? If so, would it have to be liquid fueled, or is that possible with solid-fueled motors? I think it would be cool to see that.
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23rd November 2009, 07:36 AM	#8
Beady Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 44:57:19N, 73:16:18W Posts: 4,970	Originally Posted by X I'd never heard of this before, either, even though I've long thought it would be really cool to see something like a 1/10th scale Saturn V. There's a full-scale fiberglass model Saturn V at the rocket garden in Huntsville. I think the most impressive Saturn V display I've seen, though, is your first view as you walk out of the Launch Control display at the KSC Saturn V Center.
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23rd November 2009, 05:48 PM	#9
Pantaz Critical Thinker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Van Nuys, CA Posts: 469	Article and photos: http://www.popularmechanics.com/home...p/4315103.html "The 36-ft.-tall rocket was the largest amateur rocket ever launched and recovered successfully—and at 1648 pounds, also the heaviest." "Eves' single-stage behemoth was powered by nine motors—eight 13,000 Newton-second N-Class motors and a 77,000 Newton-second P-Class motor. (Five Newton-seconds is equivalent to about a pound of thrust.) All told, the array generated enough force to chuck a Volkswagen more than a half-mile—and sent the Saturn V more than 4440 feet straight up." . . . "NASA has already contacted Eves about displaying it at the U.S. Space & Rocket Center in Huntsville, Ala., beneath an original Saturn V."