Paranoid Nutjob Lou Dobbs Running For President In 2012?

The Central Scrutinizer · 23rd November 2009, 04:32 PM

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...e-run-in-2012/

Dobbs & Palin both running? Every comedian's wet dream! The jokes would write themselves!

Cleon · 23rd November 2009, 04:34 PM

Maybe we should start a letter-writing campaign to Glenn Beck...

The Painter · 23rd November 2009, 04:38 PM

If you believe this I have a nice bridge you can look at. Maybe you'd like to buy it?

Brainster · 23rd November 2009, 04:40 PM

Dobbs would get the same kind of passionate support that Ron Paul got in 2008; and the same tiny vote totals.

The Central Scrutinizer · 23rd November 2009, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by The Painter

If you believe this I have a nice bridge you can look at. Maybe you'd like to buy it?

Believe that he is running or that he is paranoid or that he is a nutjob?

The Painter · 23rd November 2009, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by The Central Scrutinizer

Believe that he is running or that he is paranoid or that he is a nutjob?

Your choice. You really don't care what I think.

parky76 · 23rd November 2009, 04:50 PM

I'd totally vote for Lou Dobbs!!!

...for dick of the year.

The Central Scrutinizer · 23rd November 2009, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by The Painter

Your choice. You really don't care what I think.

True. But I'd really like to know which one you were asking about.

The Painter · 23rd November 2009, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by The Central Scrutinizer

True. But I'd really like to know which one you were asking about.

Well, I wasn't aware I was asking about anything, other than buying a bridge.

The Central Scrutinizer · 23rd November 2009, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by The Painter

Well, I wasn't aware I was asking about anything, other than buying a bridge.

You asked if I wanted to buy a bridge, which implied that you were asking if I believed what I posted.

T.A.M. · 23rd November 2009, 05:27 PM

I tell you one thing, it is all a wetdream for democrats. Palin, Beck, Dobbs, bring them on...lets just add in Hannity and Limbaugh...oh please oh please!!!!

TAM

Savagemutt · 23rd November 2009, 05:38 PM

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* Unless she's in jail for contempt by then.

Denver · 23rd November 2009, 05:47 PM

My guess is he's just creating some buzz so when he finally announces he's moving his show to Fox News, he'll get more immediate audience, AND Beck and Hannity will be able to get a bump from the talk as well.

Upchurch · 24th November 2009, 10:36 AM

ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease...

Brainster · 24th November 2009, 12:01 PM

I get the distinct feeling that the liberals posting here are beginning to sense that the only chance Obama has of being reelected is if the Republicans nominate somebody scary.

Praktik · 24th November 2009, 12:03 PM

lol

So I guess that means Romney and Pawlenty are really driving shafts of fear down the liberal spine cause of their immense electability??

Lurker · 24th November 2009, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by The Painter

If you believe this I have a nice bridge you can look at. Maybe you'd like to buy it?

I think you underestimate the ego of Dobbs. He probably thinks he has a chance.

Still, I predict he won't run.

themusicteacher · 24th November 2009, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

I get the distinct feeling that the liberals posting here are beginning to sense that the only chance Obama has of being reelected is if the Republicans nominate somebody scary.

No, were just ready to show that, once and for all, the Republican Party is the party of whackadoodles, conspiracy theorists, nutjobs, religious fanatics, anti-civil rights demagogues, anti-intellectuals and bitchy douchebags. Republicans opened the door with the foolish nomination and support of Palin. The door was opened by repubs themselves by allowing Palin to be nominated, pandering to the religious right. It seems to be more and more clear that the Republican Party is a party of fringe, nationalist, fear-mongers like Dobbs, Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity et al.

For the record, though, Dobbs has said he would not align himself with either major party (as if the Dems would have him) but he has to know he could not possibly win as a third-party candidate on a national scale.

Praktik · 24th November 2009, 01:09 PM

in which case, who should really be scared of dobbs but Republicans?

Newtons Bit · 24th November 2009, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Lurker

I think you underestimate the ego of Dobbs. He probably thinks he has a chance.

Still, I predict he won't run.

A chance? Be respectful: his ego is bigger than that.

Lurker · 24th November 2009, 02:32 PM

Latest from Politico:

Quote:

Asked if he might make a run at the White House in 2012, Dobbs answered flatly: "Yes is the answer."

"I'm going to be talking some more with some folks who want me to listen in the next few weeks," Dobbs told Thompson. "Right now I'm fortunate to have a number of wonderful options."

Dobbs's political future, however, remains shrouded in question marks. He has left open a variety of paths to public office — in addition to toying with a presidential campaign, Dobbs hasn't ruled out a bid for the Senate in 2012 in New Jersey — and also left his party affiliation a mystery.

I watched Dobbs for a while until I got tired of his angry old man schtick. I was talking to a friend last night and Dobbs came up and I compared him to our childhood neighbor who always was yelling at us to stay off his lawn. If Dobbs did not have a news show that is who he would be - an angry old crank.

MattusMaximus · 24th November 2009, 02:42 PM

Lou, the Tea Party is calling you...

cwalner · 24th November 2009, 02:48 PM

While Dobbs may run, I can't seriously see him as an actual contender for the Republican Nomination. Same goes for any of the other conservative TV/Radio personalities. What I can see happening (although still unlikely) is one them running as an independant backed by the CP or the Tea Party movement. Of course, if this happens it will doom both thier chances and whomever the Repuclicans do nominate. Just ask Al Gore, he is very familiar with the results of this type of situation.

ETA: Damn you Matt

Denver · 24th November 2009, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

I get the distinct feeling that the liberals posting here are beginning to sense that the only chance Obama has of being reelected is if the Republicans nominate somebody scary.

I suppose there are a few possibilities there:

1) President Obama's administration is a disaster. The best thing for the GOP would be to just nominate someone 'reasonable': nothing crazy, no gimmicks. You're right if the GOP keeps up with with their bizarre candidates, even a disaster over the next couple years would still give the incumbents a fine chance at reelection.

2) President Obama's administration is lukewarm, or averages out to "meh". The GOP will need to do better than a lukewarm candidate, and somehow rise above all the Palin/Beck/Fox/TeaBag/Limbaugh space which now seems to overlap and inform much of the public's view of the GOP.

3) President Obama's administration is successful, on one or more fronts. I doubt they GOP could recover from that in 2012. The only chance they might have is to do a big PR effort now. Which I sense they are trying, via the Palin/Beck/Fox/TeaBag/Limbaugh space, which I think is going to backfire in the 'reasonableness' category, which makes even #1 a problem.

Puppycow · 24th November 2009, 08:52 PM

Amazing. Has Lou Dobbs ever run for any office?

Other than former generals, has there ever been a president who never held an elected office before becoming president?

I shouldn't be surprised though. Lou's grip on reality is rather tenuous. I used to think that he was a fairly standard left-democrat, but his views have gotten more and more bizarre.

Upchurch · 24th November 2009, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

I get the distinct feeling that the liberals posting here are beginning to sense that the only chance Obama has of being reelected is if the Republicans nominate somebody scary.

The Force is not strong with this one.

Who could pass up rubbernecking at the complete train wreck of a Palin and/or Dobbs ticket would be? Oh, the tragic hilarity!

SezMe · 24th November 2009, 10:39 PM

All you far out libs are hiding from the obvious Donkey Killer: Michele Bachmann!

Davidlpf · 24th November 2009, 10:51 PM

John Stewart would go nuts over this.

Dr Adequate · 24th November 2009, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

I get the distinct feeling that the liberals posting here are beginning to sense that the only chance Obama has of being reelected is if the Republicans nominate somebody scary.

No, but damn that would be fun.

It's fun if they even try to get the nomination. Remember the Paultards? Please, please, please, let there be Dobbstards and Palintards and ... Becktards. Or just more Paultards, he'll probably still be alive. C'mon, give me someone to satirize. Huckabee ... I've got nothing. I'm just going to have to hope he turns out to have a "wide stance", if you know what I mean.

Dr Adequate · 24th November 2009, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

I get the distinct feeling that the liberals posting here are beginning to sense that the only chance Obama has of being reelected is if the Republicans nominate somebody scary.

By the way, do you have anyone in mind who isn't scary? I mean, true, they can't all be Michelle Bachmann, but they are all members of the Republican Party. Rush Limbaugh will endorse them. Hate radio will anoint them. And they'll have that sinister little (R) next to their name.

You'll have to look long and hard to find another McCain. And he lost. So whom did you have in mind?

cwalner · 25th November 2009, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by Dr Adequate

By the way, do you have anyone in mind who isn't scary? I mean, true, they can't all be Michelle Bachmann, but they are all members of the Republican Party. Rush Limbaugh will endorse them. Hate radio will anoint them. And they'll have that sinister little (R) next to their name.

You'll have to look long and hard to find another McCain. And he lost. So whom did you have in mind?

I personally would love to see Colin Powell on the ticket. I agree that the chances of it actually happening are akin to Pigasus being born. I could also support a bid by Christine Todd Whitman.

Hell, in 2000, I was a huge McCain partisan during the primary, but whoever the hell that was running for president may have looked like him, but didn't come close to acting anything like the Senator from Arizona. I was half expecting that last November, just after the election, Donald Sutherland was going to find John McCain wrapped up in some alien pod.

The issue is not difficulty in finding non-scary Republicans. It seems to me the issue is in the party putting economic conservativism over social conservativism and dropping that damned RINO nonsense. Unfortunately, this too seems to be in Pigasus territory for a while.

Meadmaker · 25th November 2009, 10:17 AM

Well I for one think it's a great idea to have someone who isn't a professional politician running for office.

I think this could be the greatest thing since Alan Keyes ran for the Senate.

Cynic · 25th November 2009, 10:46 AM

Is Dobbs really that much of a nutjob? I never really heard -- nor looked into at all -- anything bad about the guy until his obsession with illegals began to get noticed. And whatever side you're on, the topic of illegals is one that hasn't really been taken very seriously. "Liberals" want to ignore it or advocate that they be considered as the humans they are and "conservatives" want to simultaneously condemn it while encouraging them to come over and work cheaply. All of the "solutions" are basically untenable. (A wall? Seriously?) I can easily see how it might be frustrating and continually sticking it in the face of the politicians who would rather the topic just went away can be seen as somewhat of a nobel strategy.

But I confess a general level of ignorance about him or what he's been saying. Personally I'm of the opinion that illegals should be treated as humans, that the ones that have been here for decades should be allowed to stay, and that the only reall solution to the problem is to help make the countries they come from places that people won't be so eager to leave.

Is he only "crazy" in one dimension, or is he generally crazy?

Cleon · 25th November 2009, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Cynic

Is he only "crazy" in one dimension, or is he generally crazy?

A spent bullet hit the side of his rural (ie, hunting country) house, and he immediately concluded that people were trying to kill him.

Cynic · 25th November 2009, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Cleon

A spent bullet hit the side of his rural (ie, hunting country) house, and he immediately concluded that people were trying to kill him.

I dunno. He makes a target of himself, and statistically speaking, having a bullet hit your house isn't exactly a common occurance no matter where you live. Rural might mean hunting country, but it also implies wide open spaces where a bullet is far more likely to miss than hit.

MattusMaximus · 25th November 2009, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by cwalner

I personally would love to see Colin Powell on the ticket. I agree that the chances of it actually happening are akin to Pigasus being born. I could also support a bid by Christine Todd Whitman.

Ditto. And, sadly, I have to agree with you that the chances of Powell (or any other moderate) getting on the GOP ticket these days is essentially nil.

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Hell, in 2000, I was a huge McCain partisan during the primary, but whoever the hell that was running for president may have looked like him, but didn't come close to acting anything like the Senator from Arizona. I was half expecting that last November, just after the election, Donald Sutherland was going to find John McCain wrapped up in some alien pod.

Yup, I remember that on election night last year when McCain was giving his concession speech (and that moron Palin was keeping her yap shut), I thought to myself: "Damn, there's the old McCain! Why didn't that guy run for president?"

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The issue is not difficulty in finding non-scary Republicans. It seems to me the issue is in the party putting economic conservativism over social conservativism and dropping that damned RINO nonsense. Unfortunately, this too seems to be in Pigasus territory for a while.

Agreed. With the RNC's latest desire to push this "ideological purity" nonsense, I expect to see the witch-hunts against "RINOs" pick up even more steam in the spring primaries. It looks to me like the social conservative wingnuts are flexing their muscle, and the RNC leadership is giving in - again. Good grief

Corsair 115 · 25th November 2009, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Cynic

Is Dobbs really that much of a nutjob? I never really heard -- nor looked into at all -- anything bad about the guy until his obsession with illegals began to get noticed.

Several years ago on his broadcast, in a "report" about outsourcing of jobs, he strongly implied that Canada was just another "cheap foreign labor market" like China and India. This is not exactly top-shelf economic analysis.

Dobbs has also demonstrated a track record for believing in the North American Union and NAFTA superhighway nonsense.

SezMe · 25th November 2009, 12:28 PM

And remember that Dobbs danced around the edges of the birthers.

The Central Scrutinizer · 25th November 2009, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by cwalner

I personally would love to see Colin Powell on the ticket.

But if it's Powell vs Obama, then the blacks have won.

cwalner · 25th November 2009, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by MattusMaximus

Ditto. And, sadly, I have to agree with you that the chances of Powell (or any other moderate) getting on the GOP ticket these days is essentially nil.

With Powell, its a double whammy. In addition to the current tone of the RNC, I would imagine that Powell might be a bit soured of politics. I can't really see him as being interested in political office any more.

Originally Posted by MattusMaximus

Yup, I remember that on election night last year when McCain was giving his concession speech (and that moron Palin was keeping her yap shut), I thought to myself: "Damn, there's the old McCain! Why didn't that guy run for president?"

This reminds me of a great bit that The Daily Show did during the campaign. They showed a clip of John Kerry criticising McCain for hypocrisy, pointing out the different positions between senator McCain and candidate McCain (something we both seem to lament, but do not attribute to hypocrisy). In the clip, Kerry was concise, coherent and animated. TDS then showed clips from the 2004 campaign to point out the differences between senator Kerry and candidate Kerry.

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The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 21,723	Originally Posted by The Painter If you believe this I have a nice bridge you can look at. Maybe you'd like to buy it? Believe that he is running or that he is paranoid or that he is a nutjob?
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The Painter Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New York Posts: 2,226	If you believe this I have a nice bridge you can look at. Maybe you'd like to buy it?

23rd November 2009, 04:44 PM	#6
The Painter Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New York Posts: 2,226	Originally Posted by The Central Scrutinizer Believe that he is running or that he is paranoid or that he is a nutjob? Your choice. You really don't care what I think.

23rd November 2009, 05:10 PM	#8
The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 21,723	Originally Posted by The Painter Your choice. You really don't care what I think. True. But I'd really like to know which one you were asking about.
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23rd November 2009, 05:15 PM	#9
The Painter Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New York Posts: 2,226	Originally Posted by The Central Scrutinizer True. But I'd really like to know which one you were asking about. Well, I wasn't aware I was asking about anything, other than buying a bridge.

23rd November 2009, 05:23 PM	#10
The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 21,723	Originally Posted by The Painter Well, I wasn't aware I was asking about anything, other than buying a bridge. You asked if I wanted to buy a bridge, which implied that you were asking if I believed what I posted.
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23rd November 2009, 05:47 PM	#13
Denver Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 2,739	My guess is he's just creating some buzz so when he finally announces he's moving his show to Fox News, he'll get more immediate audience, AND Beck and Hannity will be able to get a bump from the talk as well.

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24th November 2009, 12:01 PM	#15
Brainster Philosopher Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,063	I get the distinct feeling that the liberals posting here are beginning to sense that the only chance Obama has of being reelected is if the Republicans nominate somebody scary.
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Praktik Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,804	lol So I guess that means Romney and Pawlenty are really driving shafts of fear down the liberal spine cause of their immense electability??
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24th November 2009, 12:51 PM	#17
Lurker Illuminator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,044	Originally Posted by The Painter If you believe this I have a nice bridge you can look at. Maybe you'd like to buy it? I think you underestimate the ego of Dobbs. He probably thinks he has a chance. Still, I predict he won't run.
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24th November 2009, 12:59 PM	#18
themusicteacher Critical Thinker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Burque, NM Posts: 462	Originally Posted by Brainster I get the distinct feeling that the liberals posting here are beginning to sense that the only chance Obama has of being reelected is if the Republicans nominate somebody scary. No, were just ready to show that, once and for all, the Republican Party is the party of whackadoodles, conspiracy theorists, nutjobs, religious fanatics, anti-civil rights demagogues, anti-intellectuals and bitchy douchebags. Republicans opened the door with the foolish nomination and support of Palin. The door was opened by repubs themselves by allowing Palin to be nominated, pandering to the religious right. It seems to be more and more clear that the Republican Party is a party of fringe, nationalist, fear-mongers like Dobbs, Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity et al. For the record, though, Dobbs has said he would not align himself with either major party (as if the Dems would have him) but he has to know he could not possibly win as a third-party candidate on a national scale.

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Praktik Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,804	in which case, who should really be scared of dobbs but Republicans?
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24th November 2009, 01:10 PM	#20
Newtons Bit Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,612	Originally Posted by Lurker I think you underestimate the ego of Dobbs. He probably thinks he has a chance. Still, I predict he won't run. A chance? Be respectful: his ego is bigger than that.
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Lurker Illuminator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,044	Latest from Politico: Quote: Asked if he might make a run at the White House in 2012, Dobbs answered flatly: "Yes is the answer." "I'm going to be talking some more with some folks who want me to listen in the next few weeks," Dobbs told Thompson. "Right now I'm fortunate to have a number of wonderful options." Dobbs's political future, however, remains shrouded in question marks. He has left open a variety of paths to public office — in addition to toying with a presidential campaign, Dobbs hasn't ruled out a bid for the Senate in 2012 in New Jersey — and also left his party affiliation a mystery. I watched Dobbs for a while until I got tired of his angry old man schtick. I was talking to a friend last night and Dobbs came up and I compared him to our childhood neighbor who always was yelling at us to stay off his lawn. If Dobbs did not have a news show that is who he would be - an angry old crank.
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Denver Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 2,739	Originally Posted by Brainster I get the distinct feeling that the liberals posting here are beginning to sense that the only chance Obama has of being reelected is if the Republicans nominate somebody scary. I suppose there are a few possibilities there: 1) President Obama's administration is a disaster. The best thing for the GOP would be to just nominate someone 'reasonable': nothing crazy, no gimmicks. You're right if the GOP keeps up with with their bizarre candidates, even a disaster over the next couple years would still give the incumbents a fine chance at reelection. 2) President Obama's administration is lukewarm, or averages out to "meh". The GOP will need to do better than a lukewarm candidate, and somehow rise above all the Palin/Beck/Fox/TeaBag/Limbaugh space which now seems to overlap and inform much of the public's view of the GOP. 3) President Obama's administration is successful, on one or more fronts. I doubt they GOP could recover from that in 2012. The only chance they might have is to do a big PR effort now. Which I sense they are trying, via the Palin/Beck/Fox/TeaBag/Limbaugh space, which I think is going to backfire in the 'reasonableness' category, which makes even #1 a problem.

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Upchurch Papa Funkosophy Join Date: May 2002 Location: Funky Town (STL, MO) Posts: 19,555	Originally Posted by Brainster I get the distinct feeling that the liberals posting here are beginning to sense that the only chance Obama has of being reelected is if the Republicans nominate somebody scary. The Force is not strong with this one. Who could pass up rubbernecking at the complete train wreck of a Palin and/or Dobbs ticket would be? Oh, the tragic hilarity!

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Dr Adequate Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Waiting Long Enough By The River Posts: 17,902	Originally Posted by Brainster I get the distinct feeling that the liberals posting here are beginning to sense that the only chance Obama has of being reelected is if the Republicans nominate somebody scary. No, but damn that would be fun. It's fun if they even try to get the nomination. Remember the Paultards? Please, please, please, let there be Dobbstards and Palintards and ... Becktards. Or just more Paultards, he'll probably still be alive. C'mon, give me someone to satirize. Huckabee ... I've got nothing. I'm just going to have to hope he turns out to have a "wide stance", if you know what I mean.

24th November 2009, 11:08 PM	#30
Dr Adequate Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Waiting Long Enough By The River Posts: 17,902	Originally Posted by Brainster I get the distinct feeling that the liberals posting here are beginning to sense that the only chance Obama has of being reelected is if the Republicans nominate somebody scary. By the way, do you have anyone in mind who isn't scary? I mean, true, they can't all be Michelle Bachmann, but they are all members of the Republican Party. Rush Limbaugh will endorse them. Hate radio will anoint them. And they'll have that sinister little (R) next to their name. You'll have to look long and hard to find another McCain. And he lost. So whom did you have in mind?

25th November 2009, 02:45 AM	#31
cwalner Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Deepest Darkest Indiana Posts: 1,358	Originally Posted by Dr Adequate By the way, do you have anyone in mind who isn't scary? I mean, true, they can't all be Michelle Bachmann, but they are all members of the Republican Party. Rush Limbaugh will endorse them. Hate radio will anoint them. And they'll have that sinister little (R) next to their name. You'll have to look long and hard to find another McCain. And he lost. So whom did you have in mind? I personally would love to see Colin Powell on the ticket. I agree that the chances of it actually happening are akin to Pigasus being born. I could also support a bid by Christine Todd Whitman. Hell, in 2000, I was a huge McCain partisan during the primary, but whoever the hell that was running for president may have looked like him, but didn't come close to acting anything like the Senator from Arizona. I was half expecting that last November, just after the election, Donald Sutherland was going to find John McCain wrapped up in some alien pod. The issue is not difficulty in finding non-scary Republicans. It seems to me the issue is in the party putting economic conservativism over social conservativism and dropping that damned RINO nonsense. Unfortunately, this too seems to be in Pigasus territory for a while.
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25th November 2009, 10:17 AM	#32
Meadmaker Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Detroit suburbs Posts: 8,113	Well I for one think it's a great idea to have someone who isn't a professional politician running for office. I think this could be the greatest thing since Alan Keyes ran for the Senate.
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25th November 2009, 10:46 AM	#33
Cynic Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,060	Is Dobbs really that much of a nutjob? I never really heard -- nor looked into at all -- anything bad about the guy until his obsession with illegals began to get noticed. And whatever side you're on, the topic of illegals is one that hasn't really been taken very seriously. "Liberals" want to ignore it or advocate that they be considered as the humans they are and "conservatives" want to simultaneously condemn it while encouraging them to come over and work cheaply. All of the "solutions" are basically untenable. (A wall? Seriously?) I can easily see how it might be frustrating and continually sticking it in the face of the politicians who would rather the topic just went away can be seen as somewhat of a nobel strategy. But I confess a general level of ignorance about him or what he's been saying. Personally I'm of the opinion that illegals should be treated as humans, that the ones that have been here for decades should be allowed to stay, and that the only reall solution to the problem is to help make the countries they come from places that people won't be so eager to leave. Is he only "crazy" in one dimension, or is he generally crazy?
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25th November 2009, 10:48 AM	#34
Cleon King of the Pod People Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 14,362	Originally Posted by Cynic Is he only "crazy" in one dimension, or is he generally crazy? A spent bullet hit the side of his rural (ie, hunting country) house, and he immediately concluded that people were trying to kill him.
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25th November 2009, 10:55 AM	#35
Cynic Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,060	Originally Posted by Cleon A spent bullet hit the side of his rural (ie, hunting country) house, and he immediately concluded that people were trying to kill him. I dunno. He makes a target of himself, and statistically speaking, having a bullet hit your house isn't exactly a common occurance no matter where you live. Rural might mean hunting country, but it also implies wide open spaces where a bullet is far more likely to miss than hit.
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