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Old 25th November 2009, 10:29 AM   #1
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Mossad agents train to plant terrorist bombs

'..A trainee spy for Israel's secret service agency Mossad was arrested by Tel Aviv police while taking part in a training operation, media reports say.
The young trainee was spotted by a female passer-by as he planted a fake bomb under a vehicle in the city. ...'


from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/8377746.stm

Not content with having the most accident prone armed forces in the world ( look at the huge number of times the IDF 'accidentally' kills civilians) the Israeli government now has possibly the most incompetent Secret Service in the world. They clearly want to take that honour from the CIA after its Italian farce.

On a more chilling note an Israeli TV channel stated
'..The country's commercial Channel 10 said it hoped the agency's operatives were "more effective abroad", AFP news agency reported. ...' from the same link.

More effective at planting bombs abroad! So an Israeli TV channel is wishing Mossad success in terrorist activities.

On a very serious note how can the EU or any decent democratic state possibly want closer connections with an extreme right wing Zionist government with an incompetent secret service whose agents openly practise terrorist acts in city streets?

If any Mossad member tries to enter your country please notify the police immediately so that they can be arrested. You may be stopping an atrocity in your city centres.
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Old 25th November 2009, 10:48 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by E.J.Armstrong View Post
'..A trainee spy for Israel's secret service agency Mossad was arrested by Tel Aviv police while taking part in a training operation, media reports say.
The young trainee was spotted by a female passer-by as he planted a fake bomb under a vehicle in the city. ...'


from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/8377746.stm

Not content with having the most accident prone armed forces in the world ( look at the huge number of times the IDF 'accidentally' kills civilians) the Israeli government now has possibly the most incompetent Secret Service in the world. They clearly want to take that honour from the CIA after its Italian farce.

On a more chilling note an Israeli TV channel stated
'..The country's commercial Channel 10 said it hoped the agency's operatives were "more effective abroad", AFP news agency reported. ...' from the same link.

More effective at planting bombs abroad! So an Israeli TV channel is wishing Mossad success in terrorist activities.

On a very serious note how can the EU or any decent democratic state possibly want closer connections with an extreme right wing Zionist government with an incompetent secret service whose agents openly practise terrorist acts in city streets?
I guess he got an "F" in that exercise. Part of their job is the old "trying not to be seen" deal.
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If any Mossad member tries to enter your country please notify the police immediately so that they can be arrested. You may be stopping an atrocity in your city centres.
Brilliant suggestion, since Mossad agents do nothing but plant fake bombs, 24/7, no matter where they are. Your minority report solution solves the problem entirely. MI (1-6) needs you.

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Old 25th November 2009, 10:51 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by Darth Rotor View Post
I guess he got an "F" in that exercise. Part of their job is the old "trying not to be seen" deal.

...snip...
And I hope the police officer got a promotion!
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And I hope the police officer got a promotion!
Aye, done good.
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Originally Posted by Darth Rotor View Post
I guess he got an "F" in that exercise. Part of their job is the old "trying not to be seen" deal.

Brilliant suggestion, since Mossad agents do nothing but plant fake bombs, 24/7, no matter where they are. Your minority report solution solves the problem entirely. MI (1-6) needs you.

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The only MI that needs EJ(based on this silliness of misinterpretation/intentional misstatement) is MIC-KEY M O U S E!!!!
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Originally Posted by E.J.Armstrong View Post
If any Mossad member tries to enter your country please notify the police immediately so that they can be arrested. You may be stopping an atrocity in your city centres.
How does one recognize a Mossad member?
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Originally Posted by Pardalis View Post
How does one recognize a Mossad member?
Must resist.....
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
Must resist.....
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How does one recognize a Mossad member?
sratches head


He doesn't look like a pizza.








(Cross ref to that community thread ...)

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If any Mossad member tries to enter your country please notify the police immediately so that they can be arrested. You may be stopping an atrocity in your city centres.
lol. pretty funny stuff.

i guess we will just have to prevent all Israelis from entering the USA. and all Jews too..for that matter.

then America will finally be safe!!! muhahahahaha!!!
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Originally Posted by E.J.Armstrong View Post
If any Mossad member tries to enter your country please notify the police immediately so that they can be arrested. You may be stopping an atrocity in your city centres.
And you can tell they're Mossad agents because they all have a big red hat saying "I am a secret agent", you know.
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Those Hamas guys better get some of those little mirrors to look under their cars. LOL.

This guys training mission was an epic fail, but still a shining example of success compared to the OP.
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Given that Israeli police, military and intel agencies spend more time hunting for bombs than pretty much anyone else in the world, can someone tell me why it's somehow noteworthy that they were planting fake bombs during a training exercise?
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It was a training excercise, apparently, by a Mossad agent...
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On a very serious note
Which means that the rest of your post wasn't very serious at all. Pip pip.
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Originally Posted by E.J.Armstrong View Post
If any Mossad member tries to enter your country please notify the police immediately so that they can be arrested. You may be stopping an atrocity in your city centres.
I'm not too worried, since the US doesn't harbor known terrorists.
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Given that Israeli police, military and intel agencies spend more time hunting for bombs than pretty much anyone else in the world, can someone tell me why it's somehow noteworthy that they were planting fake bombs during a training exercise?
1)It's mossad. Mossad don't publicaly appear much
2)Mossad have a history of planting bombs in western nations
3)On the ground hunting for bombs is not really the role of an intelligence agency. It's generaly best left to police or amy forces who have no issues with appearing in public.
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I'm not too worried, since the US doesn't harbor known terrorists.
For a given value of terrorist perhaps. Even then somewhat questionable.
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For a given value of terrorist perhaps. Even then somewhat questionable.
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KKK. Some of the people in the indian wars historically. More recently well there are various CIA memebers who are guilty of useing terror as a weapon while not being privileged combatants. As I said it depends on defintions.
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KKK. Some of the people in the indian wars historically. More recently well there are various CIA memebers who are guilty of useing terror as a weapon while not being privileged combatants. As I said it depends on defintions.
Which of these are likely to be targeted by a Mossad car bomb?
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Which of these are likely to be targeted by a Mossad car bomb?
Car bombs are not Mossad's style they prefer to be more precise.

The KKK are no longer significant. It's possible however that the CIA might disrupt something that Israel has a significant interest in.

The other group who could end up in the US that Mossad have a history of targeting is people realeasing information about Isreal that Isreal doesn't want relased.

The US even employed Gerald Bull at one point.

We know Israel spies on the US:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7361446.stm

We know Mossad doesn't always stay passive. So Mossad is realisticaly a US security issue. Probably less than they used to be. They lost a couple of agents to New Zealand not to long ago which suggests they may have lost their edge.
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Must resist.....
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Car bombs are not Mossad's style they prefer to be more precise.
It's not? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3382343.ece

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The KKK are no longer significant. It's possible however that the CIA might disrupt something that Israel has a significant interest in.

The other group who could end up in the US that Mossad have a history of targeting is people realeasing information about Isreal that Isreal doesn't want relased.

The US even employed Gerald Bull at one point.

We know Israel spies on the US:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7361446.stm

We know Mossad doesn't always stay passive. So Mossad is realisticaly a US security issue. Probably less than they used to be. They lost a couple of agents to New Zealand not to long ago which suggests they may have lost their edge.
It's a long way from spying to carrying out political assassinations, particularly in an allied country.
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I think we are using different defintions of car bombs. I was more thinking the classic boot full of ammonium nitrate kind.

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It's a long way from spying to carrying out political assassinations, particularly in an allied country.
Mossad have show that they are prepared to carry out attacks in western nations. There is a limit to any special status the US might have.
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Mossad have show that they are prepared to carry out attacks in western nations. There is a limit to any special status the US might have.
ay? since when?

what Western nation have they attacked b4?
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ay? since when?

what Western nation have they attacked b4?
They have attacked non-Western targets inside Western countries.
But I think that was as far back as the seventies.
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They have attacked non-Western targets inside Western countries.
But I think that was as far back as the seventies.
That'd be Operation Wrath of God (Hebrew: מבצע זעם האל‎, Mivtza Za'am Ha'el), also called Operation Bayonet, was a covert operation directed by Israel and the Mossad to assassinate individuals alleged to have been directly or indirectly involved in the 1972 Munich massacre.

Their targets included members of the Palestinian terrorist group Black September, who were responsible for the Munich attack, and members of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) accused of being involved. Authorized to begin by Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir in the autumn of 1972, the operation may have continued for more than 20 years.

During this time, covert Israeli assassination units killed dozens of suspected conspirators across Europe, including the mistaken murder of an innocent waiter in Lillehammer, Norway, in what became known as the Lillehammer affair. An additional military assault was launched by Israeli commandos deep inside Lebanon to kill several high-profile Palestinian targets. This string of assassinations spurred retaliatory attacks by Black September against a variety of Israeli government targets around the world. It has also prompted criticism of Israel over its choice of targets, tactic of assassination, and overall effectiveness. Because of the secretive nature of the operation, some details are unverifiable beyond a single source, including the story of an Israeli who claims to have led an Israeli assassination squad.

The operation was depicted in the television film Sword of Gideon (1986), and Steven Spielberg's Munich (2005).

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wrath_of_God
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It's not? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3382343.ece

It's a long way from spying to carrying out political assassinations, particularly in an allied country.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patria_disaster

The Patria disaster occurred on 25 November 1940 when the Patria, a French-built ocean liner, sank in Haifa harbour after a bomb carried covertly on board exploded, killing 260 people,[1] and injuring another 172. At the time of the sinking, the Patria was carrying around 1,800 Jewish refugees from Nazi-occupied Europe who were being deported by the British to Mauritius and Trinidad because they did not possess entry permits. The deportation was opposed by Zionist organisations including the underground paramilitary Haganah group, which planted a bomb with the intention of disabling the ship to prevent it from leaving Haifa. However, the Haganah miscalculated the effects of the explosion and the bomb caused the ship to sink in under fifteen minutes, trapping hundreds in the hold. The survivors were subsequently permitted to remain in Palestine on humanitarian grounds. Who was responsible and the true reason why the Patria sank remained controversial mysteries until 1957, when the person who placed the bomb published a book about his experiences.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(group)
The smallest and most radical of Mandatory Palestine's three Zionist paramilitary groups (Haganah, Irgun, and Lehi), the group never had more than a few hundred members. Lehi split from the Irgun in 1940 and by 1948 was identified with both religious Zionism (although most members were not Orthodox Jews) and left-wing nationalism (despite most members wanting to remain politically unaligned.[4][5] It carried out the November 1944 assassination in Cairo of Lord Moyne, along with other attacks on the British authorities and Palestinian Arabs. It was described as a terrorist organization by the British authorities[6] and was banned by the newly-formed Israeli government under an anti-terrorism law passed three days after the group's September 1948 assassination of the UN mediator Folke Bernadotte.[7] The United Nations Security Council called the assassins "a criminal group of terrorists,"[8] and Lehi was similarly condemned by the subsequent United Nations mediator Ralph Bunche[9].

Israel granted a general amnesty to Lehi members on 14 February 1949. In 1980 the group was honored by the institution of the Lehi ribbon, a military decoration awarded "for military service towards the establishment of the State of Israel" .[10] Future Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Shamir was among its leaders.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patria_disaster

The Patria disaster occurred on 25 November 1940 when the Patria, a French-built ocean liner, sank in Haifa harbour after a bomb carried covertly on board exploded, killing 260 people,[1] and injuring another 172. At the time of the sinking, the Patria was carrying around 1,800 Jewish refugees from Nazi-occupied Europe who were being deported by the British to Mauritius and Trinidad because they did not possess entry permits. The deportation was opposed by Zionist organisations including the underground paramilitary Haganah group, which planted a bomb with the intention of disabling the ship to prevent it from leaving Haifa. However, the Haganah miscalculated the effects of the explosion and the bomb caused the ship to sink in under fifteen minutes, trapping hundreds in the hold. The survivors were subsequently permitted to remain in Palestine on humanitarian grounds. Who was responsible and the true reason why the Patria sank remained controversial mysteries until 1957, when the person who placed the bomb published a book about his experiences.


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The smallest and most radical of Mandatory Palestine's three Zionist paramilitary groups (Haganah, Irgun, and Lehi), the group never had more than a few hundred members. Lehi split from the Irgun in 1940 and by 1948 was identified with both religious Zionism (although most members were not Orthodox Jews) and left-wing nationalism (despite most members wanting to remain politically unaligned.[4][5] It carried out the November 1944 assassination in Cairo of Lord Moyne, along with other attacks on the British authorities and Palestinian Arabs. It was described as a terrorist organization by the British authorities[6] and was banned by the newly-formed Israeli government under an anti-terrorism law passed three days after the group's September 1948 assassination of the UN mediator Folke Bernadotte.[7] The United Nations Security Council called the assassins "a criminal group of terrorists,"[8] and Lehi was similarly condemned by the subsequent United Nations mediator Ralph Bunche[9].

Israel granted a general amnesty to Lehi members on 14 February 1949. In 1980 the group was honored by the institution of the Lehi ribbon, a military decoration awarded "for military service towards the establishment of the State of Israel" .[10] Future Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Shamir was among its leaders.
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Originally Posted by geni View Post
I think we are using different defintions of car bombs. I was more thinking the classic boot full of ammonium nitrate kind.
Why would you think that, given the example in the OP?
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Originally Posted by Eddie Dane View Post
They have attacked non-Western targets inside Western countries.
But I think that was as far back as the seventies.
assassinating Black September members in Europe does not count as an attack against a Western country.

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How does one recognize a Mossad member?
Their dancing of course.
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Their dancing of course.
on white vans.
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I can only guess they plan to stage terror attacks elsewhere in the world, or that they want to get more funding to refine their intelligence agencies.

After all if you produce the illusion your operatives can no longer do their job effectively you can ask the government for more money for training and equipment to do the job even better.

Hope I don't die in a car bomb, or disappear, or die under suspicious circumstances or something
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I can only guess they plan to stage terror attacks elsewhere in the world, or that they want to get more funding to refine their intelligence agencies.

After all if you produce the illusion your operatives can no longer do their job effectively you can ask the government for more money for training and equipment to do the job even better.

Hope I don't die in a car bomb, or disappear, or die under suspicious circumstances or something
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Originally Posted by Darth Rotor View Post
I guess he got an "F" in that exercise. Part of their job is the old "trying not to be seen" deal.
And their practising terrorist activities?

Brilliant suggestion, since Mossad agents do nothing but plant fake bombs, 24/7, no matter where they are. Your minority report solution solves the problem entirely. MI (1-6) needs you.

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And naturally you know exactly what Mossad get up to?

I see that Mossad practising terrorist activities is a matter of humour to you. Quelle surprise.

Mossad have a history of assassinating innocent people. I look forwards to every single one of the murderers being brought to justice. Do you?

Perhaps you support Mossad assassinating innocent people? Do let us all know if you do. This should be good.

Spotting CIA and Mossad agents is easy. The CIA use their own names and credit cards and book sex sessions with other agents in between kidnapping and torturing anyone they like. How comical is that? Similarly Mossad tries to amuse us all by sending their best agents to practise planting bombs under public vehicles while making sure the public can see them. All good comedy material.

You don't seem to be interested in why the Mossad idiots would want to practise terrorist activities. Why is that I wonder?
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Originally Posted by fuelair View Post
The only MI that needs EJ(based on this silliness of misinterpretation/intentional misstatement) is MIC-KEY M O U S E!!!!
What was that loud whooshing sound I can hear?

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Originally Posted by Pardalis View Post
How does one recognize a Mossad member?
I thought you'd never ask.

It's actually very easy if you read the links in the OP.

The Mossad agents are the ones with the flat heads asking locals to hold their Uzi submachine guns while they plant their bomb under the bus.
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