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Submitted by Brown
27th November 2009 |
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#1
By
bit_pattern
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27th April 2010, 03:34 AM
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Oh, wow, another Bryson book! His one on the English language was almost sublime in its scope and narrative.
I'll be interested to read this because I was quite swayed by the idea that Francis Bacon was behind a lot of the so-called Shakespeare works. An enduring nd endearing mystery in the development of English. |
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#2
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maatorc
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12th May 2010, 02:09 AM
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You may be on the right track. Lord Bacon was described as "The greatest mind in Christendom".
The title "Shakespeare" is seen by some as "Shake-Speare", the shaker of the spear, or Pallas-Athena the protector of truth and justice. There is also the story of a horse-minder named William Shakspur at a theatre connected with Lord Francis bacon. |
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#3
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Brown
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12th May 2010, 05:29 AM
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Although I don't remember whether Bryson goes into much detail about WHY it has happened, he does discuss the fact that the records spell "Shakespeare" inconsistently, and rarely is the name spelled the same way twice. Even Shakespeare himself spelled his own name in different ways.
Some people assume that this inconsistent spelling is an indication of some sort of cover-up with respect to the identity of the author. I, however, doubt that the differences in spelling account for anything so sinister. A few years ago, I was reviewing a number of written European documents (most of them from Scandinavia), some of them written (coincidentally) during Shakespeare's lifetime. There was a variety of spelling of various proper nouns: mountains, towns, fjords, even the names of people. The most obvious explanation seemed to be that spelling was not standardized in the way it is today. (Was this true in England in Shakespeare's day? I don't know, but at least I have a fair question as to whether variations in spelling are necessarily indicative of mischief.) Most recently, I happened to notice the evolution of my own signature (mostly on credit card receipts). In the interest of signing quickly, I had omitted letters from my own name (a common omission was a vowel in my first name). I even found that I had signed my last name by writing only the first three letters legibly and making a wavy line to indicate the rest. Hmm, I thought, is this somewhat similar to Shakespeare indicating himself with "Shak" or "Shaksp"? |
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#4
By
bit_pattern
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14th May 2010, 06:09 AM
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^^ I tend to agree on the spelling, English was in the throws of change during the Elizabethan times, Shakespeare coined so many words and phrases that we take as common basic English, it is little surprise imo. Although the Bacon connection is a different matter. I'm watching the Micheal Wood doco 'In Search of Shakespeare' atm. will be interested in his conclusions, as I will Bryson's, when I finally get hold of his book.
I have no doubt Shakespeare was an historical reality, but the basis of his stories remain somewhat of a mystery. And I LOVE a good mystery! ![]() |
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#5
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NormanDeArmond
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17th May 2010, 05:45 PM
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A rose by any other name ..., Forsooth ..., Alackday and...
Noteworthy that the simplest equidistant letter code search for Shakespeare in the Bible turns up: Shakespeare, play-write, Hamlet, and Macbeth(the Divine Queen Mother of all secular literature).
The commentary will be when we can compose codes based on quadratic equations and trigonometric ratios or differential equations. I was on R&R in London from German border Guard duty when walking by Parliament I noted the National Theater right there was featuring Macbeth and it was about to start. What is more, a ticket was affordable for a lonely soldier. My pagan pals were away at brothels. It was the highlight of my London adventure. Compare Isaiah 1:18 with Lady Macbeth's plaintiff "out darn spot" Are we spotted like the heroine of our story by abortion, by the unintended martyrs of our foreign adventures? I too am enjoying "the quest for Shakespeare" on EWTN. I suppose Shakespeare's greatest contribution, whether Othello, Romeo, Julius Caesar, Macbeth, or Hamlet, is the exposition and splendid grovelling in the pathetic so that we can have even in our noblest heroes a stark contrast with Jesus Christ who though noblest of all became immeasurably pathetic as our substitute so that we baptized into union with His sufferings might also live forever sharing His resurrection glory and life. |
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#6
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maatorc
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17th May 2010, 08:34 PM
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Noteworthy also that the publication of the English Bible was controlled by Lord Francis bacon, who was assumed in royal circles of those times, and still written about in recent times, but not to be then said out loud or you lost your head, to be the morganatic son of the then imprisoned Elizabeth Tudor and future Queen and the later Earl of Leicester under her reign.
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