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cyclonic · 3rd December 2009, 01:30 PM

When will they bring out the clown?

Richard Lowe
Bio: Trained circus clown (ret. Ringling Bros.and Barnum & Bailey Clown College and Blue Unit Tour) and classical theatre actor currently co-counseling persons with disabilities to promote community, opportunity, recreation, and education in the Boulder, Co. area.

Personal 9/11 Statement: I saw video of the WTC 7 demolition two years ago and knew immediately that something was very wrong. Since then I have studied the official reports and concluded that it is indeed impossible for WTC 7 and both towers to have fallen the way they did without explosives of some kind. I consulted on the documentary "9/11 Mysteries" and promote 9/11 Truth wherever I go.

http://www.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=999319

eromitlab · 3rd December 2009, 02:04 PM

The troofers' expert consensus is, like the troof movement itself, contained almost entirely to very specific corners of the internet. There are only three real reasons the site exists; to give rank-and-file youtube troofers a list of people with college degrees and important-sounding job titles who fell for all the troofers' lies right away so they can believe they aren't uneducated loons, to give those same rank-and-file youtube troofers something to throw at those who don't fall for all the troofers' lies right away without having to actually know of what they speak... and of course, a place for Richard Gage to make money and travel without having to actually do anything.

deep · 3rd December 2009, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by DGM

I think you misunderstood what I meant. I was refering to "participation" as to actually doing something. You know attend meetings, pay dues, produce technical papers, talk along side Gage, that sort of thing. Afterall how do you actually know they're active (or still believe) if once you join your in for life? As far as I can see there is no "participation" requirement other then using their name.

Yes, it's a petition - there are no dues, and there are no ongoing participation requirements. If someone changes their mind, I'm sure they can request to have their name removed from the petition; however, I'm unaware of any specific examples of a request like that being accepted or denied.

Grizzly Bear · 3rd December 2009, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by deep

The same information (profiles, etc) is available on the petition itself, which I linked. So.. you may want to update your bookmarks.

I don't really keep any bookmarks for their site so that's a non-issue... and I don't really care about the details of their professionals list in so much as their listings haven't done anything to change my impressions

beachnut · 3rd December 2009, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by deep

Yes, it's a petition - there are no dues, and there are no ongoing participation requirements. If someone changes their mind, I'm sure they can request to have their name removed from the petition; however, I'm unaware of any specific examples of a request like that being accepted or denied.

Petitions of woo signed by Mickey mouse more than once. The whole membership of Gage and other so called truth movement cults are super experts at believing delusions. Mickey mouse is the only signature that fits in with the fantasy theme.

There are zero experts in your movement because the foundation ideas are not based on reality.

After 8 years of zero evidence I have to rank 911 Truth a few orders of magnitude below Bigfoot and traitors.

deep · 3rd December 2009, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by beachnut

Petitions of woo signed by Mickey mouse more than once. The whole membership of Gage and other so called truth movement cults are super experts at believing delusions. Mickey mouse is the only signature that fits in with the fantasy theme.

The name "Mickey Mouse" does not appear anywhere on the petition.

TexasJack · 3rd December 2009, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by deep

The name "Mickey Mouse" does not appear anywhere on the petition.

He should have, it would be an improvement over the clowns that have signed it.

triforcharity · 3rd December 2009, 06:32 PM

It did at one point, as I am the one who signed up as Mickey Mouse.

deep · 3rd December 2009, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by triforcharity

It did at one point, as I am the one who signed up as Mickey Mouse.

That's interesting, tri - approximately how long ago did this happen?

UNLoVedRebel · 3rd December 2009, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by deep

That's interesting, tri - approximately how long ago did this happen?

You have an extremely bizarre fascination with this stupid list. I don't know how you find it impressive it considering it has 19,028 fewer names than the list of women Wilt Chamberlin had sex with.

beachnut · 3rd December 2009, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by deep

The name "Mickey Mouse" does not appear anywhere on the petition.

Mouse? ; you never saw Mr. Mus, Mr. Mickey Mus on any of the many petitions of delusions out there in 911~~Truth~~LiesLand? With research and knowledge of Mickey's real name in the science world you can help your fellow delusions believers police up the names placed in jest. Your movement was stillborn on the morning when the murderers you apologize for hit the USA.

Maybe the dolts at AE for dirt dumb ideas on 911 erased Mickey and lowered their numbers to just the willing who insist on being ignorant on 911.

Gage has zero experts like the rest of the delusional cults running amok spreading lies about 911. The best way to cure someone of 911 conspiracy theories is have them list the evidence, the hard evidence they have after they learn evidence is not hearsay, and false statements. The list looks like this:
1.

How sad, the only expert 911 cults of woo had was dropped. Oops, there is a Mr. Mus on one of the 911 dumb idea petitions! Can you find it?

portlandatheist · 4th December 2009, 12:06 AM

I would add to the OP: Where are the investigative journalists? Not journalists that mine other peoples work, but one's that actually do their own leg work? Why not interview the family members of the hijackers that are still alive? Or interview the coroner who collected DNA of the deceased at the Pentagon or Shanksville and faked their results? I could think of countless other opportunities for investigative journalism if 9/11 was actually an inside job but their idea of journalism amounts to reporting that Silverstein said "pull it" and thinking they have accomplished something as a result. Quote mining is not investigative journalism my friends.

dropzone · 5th December 2009, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by UNLoVedRebel

You have an extremely bizarre fascination with this stupid list. I don't know how you find it impressive it considering it has 19,028 fewer names than the list of women Wilt Chamberlin had sex with.

Okay, that's funny.

triforcharity · 5th December 2009, 08:25 PM

I would say about 6 months ago.

It was on there for a few days to my knowledge. Then, someone smartened up and removed it. Too bad I didn't screen cap it.

3rd December 2009, 02:04 PM	#42
eromitlab Muse Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: north Alabama Posts: 921	The troofers' expert consensus is, like the troof movement itself, contained almost entirely to very specific corners of the internet. There are only three real reasons the site exists; to give rank-and-file youtube troofers a list of people with college degrees and important-sounding job titles who fell for all the troofers' lies right away so they can believe they aren't uneducated loons, to give those same rank-and-file youtube troofers something to throw at those who don't fall for all the troofers' lies right away without having to actually know of what they speak... and of course, a place for Richard Gage to make money and travel without having to actually do anything.
	__________________ With my reputation, I do expect everyone to take what I say at face value. -Galileo

3rd December 2009, 05:19 PM	#43
deep Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,367	Originally Posted by DGM I think you misunderstood what I meant. I was refering to "participation" as to actually doing something. You know attend meetings, pay dues, produce technical papers, talk along side Gage, that sort of thing. Afterall how do you actually know they're active (or still believe) if once you join your in for life? As far as I can see there is no "participation" requirement other then using their name. Yes, it's a petition - there are no dues, and there are no ongoing participation requirements. If someone changes their mind, I'm sure they can request to have their name removed from the petition; however, I'm unaware of any specific examples of a request like that being accepted or denied.
deep Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,367

3rd December 2009, 05:22 PM	#44
Grizzly Bear このマスクによっ Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,692	Originally Posted by deep The same information (profiles, etc) is available on the petition itself, which I linked. So.. you may want to update your bookmarks. I don't really keep any bookmarks for their site so that's a non-issue... and I don't really care about the details of their professionals list in so much as their listings haven't done anything to change my impressions
Grizzly Bear このマスクによっ Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,692	__________________ Graduation on 8/13/2011 8D

3rd December 2009, 05:45 PM	#46
deep Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,367	Originally Posted by beachnut Petitions of woo signed by Mickey mouse more than once. The whole membership of Gage and other so called truth movement cults are super experts at believing delusions. Mickey mouse is the only signature that fits in with the fantasy theme. The name "Mickey Mouse" does not appear anywhere on the petition.
deep Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,367

3rd December 2009, 06:32 PM	#48
triforcharity Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The South! Posts: 12,614	It did at one point, as I am the one who signed up as Mickey Mouse.
	__________________ "The horse has been led to the water, the horse is in fact standing up to its knees in the water, but the horse is telling you in a loud voice that there's no water to be had....he's still so very thirsty!" ~alienentity

3rd December 2009, 01:30 PM	#41
cyclonic Muse Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 977	When will they bring out the clown? Richard Lowe Bio: Trained circus clown (ret. Ringling Bros.and Barnum & Bailey Clown College and Blue Unit Tour) and classical theatre actor currently co-counseling persons with disabilities to promote community, opportunity, recreation, and education in the Boulder, Co. area. Personal 9/11 Statement: I saw video of the WTC 7 demolition two years ago and knew immediately that something was very wrong. Since then I have studied the official reports and concluded that it is indeed impossible for WTC 7 and both towers to have fallen the way they did without explosives of some kind. I consulted on the documentary "9/11 Mysteries" and promote 9/11 Truth wherever I go. http://www.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=999319

3rd December 2009, 05:37 PM	#45
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 19,950	Originally Posted by deep Yes, it's a petition - there are no dues, and there are no ongoing participation requirements. If someone changes their mind, I'm sure they can request to have their name removed from the petition; however, I'm unaware of any specific examples of a request like that being accepted or denied. Petitions of woo signed by Mickey mouse more than once. The whole membership of Gage and other so called truth movement cults are super experts at believing delusions. Mickey mouse is the only signature that fits in with the fantasy theme. There are zero experts in your movement because the foundation ideas are not based on reality. After 8 years of zero evidence I have to rank 911 Truth a few orders of magnitude below Bigfoot and traitors.

3rd December 2009, 05:46 PM	#47
TexasJack Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10,881	Originally Posted by deep The name "Mickey Mouse" does not appear anywhere on the petition. He should have, it would be an improvement over the clowns that have signed it.

3rd December 2009, 07:54 PM	#49
deep Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,367	Originally Posted by triforcharity It did at one point, as I am the one who signed up as Mickey Mouse. That's interesting, tri - approximately how long ago did this happen?
deep Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,367

3rd December 2009, 08:09 PM	#50
UNLoVedRebel Hard Knocks Doctorate Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: School of Hard Knocks Posts: 5,514	Originally Posted by deep That's interesting, tri - approximately how long ago did this happen? You have an extremely bizarre fascination with this stupid list. I don't know how you find it impressive it considering it has 19,028 fewer names than the list of women Wilt Chamberlin had sex with.
	__________________ "All the Officialiers here typically have rancid alien avatars or else some kind of violent military-type avatar. Once again affirming my contention that 9/11 Officialiers are the most violent, murderous, group of people in the United States. Both statistically confirmed, but also anecdotally affirmed in almost every case of active pro-Officialers." - FloydGoethe

3rd December 2009, 10:48 PM	#51
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 19,950	Originally Posted by deep The name "Mickey Mouse" does not appear anywhere on the petition. Mouse? ; you never saw Mr. Mus, Mr. Mickey Mus on any of the many petitions of delusions out there in 911~~Truth~~LiesLand? With research and knowledge of Mickey's real name in the science world you can help your fellow delusions believers police up the names placed in jest. Your movement was stillborn on the morning when the murderers you apologize for hit the USA. Maybe the dolts at AE for dirt dumb ideas on 911 erased Mickey and lowered their numbers to just the willing who insist on being ignorant on 911. Gage has zero experts like the rest of the delusional cults running amok spreading lies about 911. The best way to cure someone of 911 conspiracy theories is have them list the evidence, the hard evidence they have after they learn evidence is not hearsay, and false statements. The list looks like this: 1. How sad, the only expert 911 cults of woo had was dropped. Oops, there is a Mr. Mus on one of the 911 dumb idea petitions! Can you find it?
	Last edited by beachnut; 3rd December 2009 at 10:54 PM.

4th December 2009, 12:06 AM	#52
portlandatheist Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,111	I would add to the OP: Where are the investigative journalists? Not journalists that mine other peoples work, but one's that actually do their own leg work? Why not interview the family members of the hijackers that are still alive? Or interview the coroner who collected DNA of the deceased at the Pentagon or Shanksville and faked their results? I could think of countless other opportunities for investigative journalism if 9/11 was actually an inside job but their idea of journalism amounts to reporting that Silverstein said "pull it" and thinking they have accomplished something as a result. Quote mining is not investigative journalism my friends.

5th December 2009, 08:22 PM	#53
dropzone Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,667	Originally Posted by UNLoVedRebel You have an extremely bizarre fascination with this stupid list. I don't know how you find it impressive it considering it has 19,028 fewer names than the list of women Wilt Chamberlin had sex with. Okay, that's funny.

5th December 2009, 08:25 PM	#54
triforcharity Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The South! Posts: 12,614	I would say about 6 months ago. It was on there for a few days to my knowledge. Then, someone smartened up and removed it. Too bad I didn't screen cap it.
	__________________ "The horse has been led to the water, the horse is in fact standing up to its knees in the water, but the horse is telling you in a loud voice that there's no water to be had....he's still so very thirsty!" ~alienentity