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Pure Argent · 19th December 2009, 08:02 PM

He's on Facebook!

Specifically, he created an account to troll the discussion boards of the Atheism fan page. He just started his third thread there, and this one's a little odd. He actually responded to me.

O_o

Pure Argent · 19th December 2009, 08:09 PM

I've heard of this guy, and run across him on several sites, but I can't find a comprehensive account of what it is that he's actually on about. Anybody here know?

grayman · 19th December 2009, 09:01 PM

Nostradamus is accurate in his predictions (Depeche Mode proves this) and atheists are going to suffer.

That about sums it up.

slingblade · 19th December 2009, 11:57 PM

http://skippytheskeptic.blogspot.com...vid-mabus.html

Quote:

Turns out David Mabus is actually Dennis Markuze, a Nostradummy from Canada who's greatest "contribution" to the prophecy movement is a weird claim that Nostradamus predicted the coming of Depeche Mode and, through this, the World Trade Center attacks. Apparently we have a celebrity in our midst. I don't know if I take it as a sign of Dennis' decline or my ascension that he's left off bothering Randi and PZ and is now skulking around here.

Pure Argent · 20th December 2009, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by grayman

Nostradamus is accurate in his predictions (Depeche Mode proves this) and atheists are going to suffer.

That about sums it up.

Originally Posted by slingblade

http://skippytheskeptic.blogspot.com...vid-mabus.html

Dude has head problems. Thanks for the link.

zooterkin · 22nd September 2010, 01:14 PM

His latest incarnation on Facebook is James Laambi; Rebecca Watson and Joe Nickell have been recent recipients of his attentions.

Alareth · 22nd September 2010, 01:56 PM

He also likes to issue death threats

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2...is_markuze.php

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Agatha · 22nd September 2010, 02:27 PM

Aw, bless* him! He's banned from so many places, I suppose facebook was the next step.

*May not reflect my real feelings.

sadhatter · 22nd September 2010, 02:30 PM

"Just don't look, just don't look....."

I am not the biggest the simpsons fan, but when it comes to Mabus, i find this advice would be the best weapon in our arsenal against him.

The guy is obviously just in it for the laughs and the attention, and no matter where i see his ramblings i see angry posts afterward, regardless of how quickly his posts are deleted.

Insane? Probably not, in all honesty he seems concerned about keeping " interesting" and keeping a good balance of silly and vitriolic. This to me simply screams fraud. I think if everyone would simply ignore the person/persons, he would eventually go away. But with every thread like this, and with every post back to him, he is a bit more encouraged to keep doing this. He gets his kicks out of people being confused, not so much angry, but confused. So if we really don't want to see him, we need to act like we already don't.

Alareth · 22nd September 2010, 04:24 PM

No sadhatter, he's a lunatic.

I've had a glimpse of some of the backend issues he's caused for forums and such. He spends entire days spamming account creation on sites he's been banned from trying to get a sock through.

He floods peoples e-mail with his vitriol.

He is not a stable individual.

Astreja · 22nd September 2010, 06:54 PM

I'm familiar with him. I've had the displeasure of 'disappearing' some of his spam when I was modding at another board.

When I saw the title, I was hoping this was a news item about him being arrested for the death threats he's made.

shadron · 23rd September 2010, 12:07 AM

I was looking into the ThinkingAtheist.com forum. That forum is small enough to be self-policing, and one of the volunteers helping out with admin duties posted this::

Quote:

The Rule From now on, I will be enforcing one rule on this site.

That rule is:

1. Do not be David Mabus.

Anyone who is David Mabus will have their account banned, deleted, and I.P. blocked. I have already done this to all previous Mabus accounts.

Darat · 23rd September 2010, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by sadhatter

"Just don't look, just don't look....."

I am not the biggest the simpsons fan, but when it comes to Mabus, i find this advice would be the best weapon in our arsenal against him.

...snip...

Have to agree, I've been spammed via email by him for quite a few years now, thankfully because he is so repetitive I've created some rules that mean I never see any of his emails no matter what new account and name he is using.

zooterkin · 23rd September 2010, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by sadhatter

"Just don't look, just don't look....."

I am not the biggest the simpsons fan, but when it comes to Mabus, i find this advice would be the best weapon in our arsenal against him.

The guy is obviously just in it for the laughs and the attention, and no matter where i see his ramblings i see angry posts afterward, regardless of how quickly his posts are deleted.

Insane? Probably not, in all honesty he seems concerned about keeping " interesting" and keeping a good balance of silly and vitriolic. This to me simply screams fraud. I think if everyone would simply ignore the person/persons, he would eventually go away. But with every thread like this, and with every post back to him, he is a bit more encouraged to keep doing this. He gets his kicks out of people being confused, not so much angry, but confused. So if we really don't want to see him, we need to act like we already don't.

I think there's a difference between the responses to his posts, which presumably he intends to provoke, wherever he makes them, and threads like this, mostly explaining who he is. It helps those who unexpectedly become the focus of his attention if they can find some explanation of who he is, and that they are not alone. It is rather disappointing that he still apparently has unfettered access to the internet despite his death threats having been reported to the authorities well over a year ago. Whether the threats are something he is willing or able to carry out doesn't have any effect on how they are perceived by someone who receives them out of the blue.

Mojo · 23rd September 2010, 02:11 AM

On the Badscience forum he's usually offered a nice cup of tea and some biscuits.

Sledge · 23rd September 2010, 02:37 AM

Nostradamus and Depeche Mode? I wonder if he's read The EsseX Files.

Manger Douse · 23rd September 2010, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by Mojo

On the Badscience forum he's usually offered a nice cup of tea and some biscuits.

And a vacuum cleaner to ****

Edited by Locknar:

Edited, breach of Rule 10. Please do not curse in your posts, or mask swear words in an attempt to circumvent the auto-censor.

Alareth · 3rd October 2010, 06:18 PM

Time to make up wanted posters, he's no longer faceless

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2...ze_exposed.php

Gawdzilla · 3rd October 2010, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Alareth

Time to make up wanted posters, he's no longer faceless

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2...ze_exposed.php

It would be illegal to say anything about what needs to be done with this clown, so I didn't.

catsmate1 · 13th August 2011, 01:54 PM

Bump. Rather than derailing the FM thread any more.

It would appear that an investigation is in progress (French/Google translation).
From here.

Quote:

Following a deluge of thousands of complaints from around the world, Montreal police have launched an investigation into a St. Laurent man accused of making hundreds, if not thousands of deadly threats. The man is believed to be Dennis Markuze, but uses a variety of pseudonyms when online, including David Mabus and Hebert Marxuxe.
Complainants say that he creates accounts on Twitter or on message boards then starts insulting, harassing, and threatening atheists, scientists, and journalists with profanity-laden messages telling people that they will be executed and subjected to the judgement of God.
In October 2010 Markuze showed up at the Atheist Alliance International conference in Montreal, where he was recognized and challenged by attendees before he left.
Someone identifying themselves as Markuze then went online to the Humanist Canada website and wrote: "believe me, the only reason the photo is available is because I WANTED IT OUT THERE.... actually it is quite a flattering photo of me: With finger cocked and pointing, I say "And I gotta take out these idiots!"

Also stories here, here, here and here. Though at least one xian wackjob claims, in the great tradition of crying "shill", that Markuze is a "Deep Cover Liberal".

It would also seem his mental state is in decline, here's some vintage Markuze from back in 1994.

Quote:

Women are on a lower rung of evolution compared to men, the difference between men and women is like the difference between animals and plants. First comes God, then the Angels, then men, then women, then animals, then plants.

You can count the number of female geniuses on one hand!

Which women have contributed to philosophy, painting, music, chess,etc..? Alright, the Polgar sisters may be geniuses, but they are freaks of nature! To be a genius by defintion is to be a male (Webster, if you are reading this, be sure to add this in your next edition). A female genius is a contradiction of terms. A woman may be intelligent but never a genius,of course, exceptions do occur, like the baby that is born with twelve fingers.

P.S. No hate mail from the ladies, please. I'm safe here behind my computer,you can't scratch out my eyes even if you wanted to.

Back then he managed actual, coherent, sentences of nonsensical, misogynistic bile.

MattusMaximus · 13th August 2011, 10:33 PM

I had thought up until this point "my blog has never been 'Mabussed'", but once I read PZ's article and saw the Depeche Mode video reference, I think this clown actually has commented on my blog. Of course, it seemed to me to be just weird spam, so I deleted it. Interesting...

catsmate1 · 17th August 2011, 02:09 PM

Update: 17AUG2011
Montreal police have announced that a suspect has been arrested (story). They have not stated who has been arrested.
The CBC news also covered Markuze/Mabus (about 4:30 in)

However many atheists/humanists with a significant online presence (e.g. PZ) have reported a diminution in insane and ranting death threats over the last few days.

AdMan · 17th August 2011, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by catsmate1

Update: 17AUG2011
Montreal police have announced that a suspect has been arrested (story). They have not stated who has been arrested.
The CBC news also covered Markuze/Mabus (about 4:30 in)

However many atheists/humanists with a significant online presence (e.g. PZ) have reported a diminution in insane and ranting death threats over the last few days.

Well, this certainly would be good news.

He's a lunatic and it's likely only a matter of time before he decides to actually hurt someone.

Complexity · 17th August 2011, 06:26 PM

He's an evil, annoying, and tacky creature.

JudeBrando · 17th August 2011, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Complexity

He's an evil, annoying, and tacky creature.

Everybody else is evil. Are you evil?

AdinDraco · 17th August 2011, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by JudeBrando

Everybody else is evil. Are you evil?

What's your definition of evil? I consider myself not-evil and, using the barest minimum of info and playing the odds, would assume the vast majority of the rest of the forum members to not be evil either. Otherwise I'm not sure I understand your post.

AdinDraco · 17th August 2011, 08:00 PM

Thinking about it....it doesn't matter if I or anyone else is pure evil incarnate. We can call the specific act of sending hundreds/thousands of death threats "evil" and not be factually wrong.

Puppycow · 17th August 2011, 08:51 PM

The full story:
http://skeptools.wordpress.com/2011/...l-media-mabus/

devnull · 17th August 2011, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by Complexity

He's an evil, annoying, and tacky creature.

He's probably not evil, only ill.

AdMan · 17th August 2011, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

The full story:
http://skeptools.wordpress.com/2011/...l-media-mabus/

Thanks for linking to this (and for krelnik for writing it and all his and everyone else's efforts, of course). It's fascinating how it turned out.

Darat · 18th August 2011, 03:12 AM

Being one his targets for several years now I had wondered why he seemed to have almost given up the ghost this year, it looks as if he had turned his attention to Twitter and with me not being active on Twitter I was thankfully no longer one of his primary targets. I can understand why some folk may have felt threatened with the Twitter stuff since he was limited to 140 characters it made his threats clearer but he has been making all the same threats since at least 2004 (which is when I got my first email from him) so in my view I don't think there was an escalation or change that indicates that he may now present a physical threat. I've always felt sorry for him as he was obviously a deeply disturbed individual. If his arrest results in him receiving some form of treatment I'll be very pleased.

catsmate1 · 18th August 2011, 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

Being one his targets for several years now I had wondered why he seemed to have almost given up the ghost this year, it looks as if he had turned his attention to Twitter and with me not being active on Twitter I was thankfully no longer one of his primary targets. I can understand why some folk may have felt threatened with the Twitter stuff since he was limited to 140 characters it made his threats clearer but he has been making all the same threats since at least 2004 (which is when I got my first email from him) so in my view I don't think there was an escalation or change that indicates that he may now present a physical threat. I've always felt sorry for him as he was obviously a deeply disturbed individual. If his arrest results in him receiving some form of treatment I'll be very pleased.

He once spent more than a month and over 250 messages arguing with an auto-respond script I'd set up for his emails; he seemed to have become less coherent in recent years.

Darat · 18th August 2011, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by catsmate1

He once spent more than a month and over 250 messages arguing with an auto-respond script I'd set up for his emails; he seemed to have become less coherent in recent years.

Any attention pleased him, whether it was a script or not! I managed over the years to get a few of his gmail accounts closed over the years and he would seemingly respond to that with glee since it meant that someone else had seen his message. Very sad.

Jeff Corey · 18th August 2011, 04:50 AM

According to the Bad Astronomer's blog, a spammer who has been making death threats to prominent skeptics (including Phil) has been arrested by Montreal police. Here is Phil's link to the story by Tim Farley. http://skeptools.wordpress.com/2011/...l-media-mabus/

Darat · 18th August 2011, 05:00 AM

We've been discussing it over in R&P in an older thread about him: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=162630 new discussion starts from: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...84#post7484384

Jeff Corey · 18th August 2011, 05:12 AM

I guess I should have done a search before posting, but I thought that it was more appropriate here than in R&P. Maybe it should be merged.

commandlinegamer · 18th August 2011, 08:00 AM

The name wasn't familiar to me so when I read spammer in the headline I presumed he'd been sending out cialis/419/paypal-phishing stuff. But all this stuff just to wind up atheists - that's pretty lame.

Ersby · 18th August 2011, 08:54 AM

I guess I should think myself lucky that he never followed me after I crossed swords with him on this forum a few years ago. But he did keep cropping up in comments of things I read, and I don't even read that many skeptic blogs! I thought he was just some guy with a Depeche Mode fixation. Seems that was just the tip of the iceberg. I hope he gets help.

Akhenaten · 18th August 2011, 09:22 AM

Some of his most recent work is on display at the ~~world~~ universe famous Australasian Skeptics Forum.

Rrose Selavy · 18th August 2011, 09:22 AM

As detailed in Tim Farley's summary, a small number of apologetic twitter messages were received from one of his accounts - before they all stopped, PZ Myers reports in his blog, he thinks it might have been his mother in a "damage control" exercise.

19th December 2009, 08:02 PM	#1
Pure Argent Certified Castlevania Fanboy Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Clock Tower Boss Room Posts: 6,259	Spammer David Mabus / arrested He's on Facebook! Specifically, he created an account to troll the discussion boards of the Atheism fan page. He just started his third thread there, and this one's a little odd. He actually responded to me. O_o
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19th December 2009, 08:09 PM	#2
Pure Argent Certified Castlevania Fanboy Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Clock Tower Boss Room Posts: 6,259	I've heard of this guy, and run across him on several sites, but I can't find a comprehensive account of what it is that he's actually on about. Anybody here know?
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19th December 2009, 09:01 PM	#3
grayman Happy-go-lucky Heretic Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Casa del Whacko Posts: 6,142	Nostradamus is accurate in his predictions (Depeche Mode proves this) and atheists are going to suffer. That about sums it up.
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19th December 2009, 11:57 PM	#4
slingblade Guest Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,642	http://skippytheskeptic.blogspot.com...vid-mabus.html Quote: Turns out David Mabus is actually Dennis Markuze, a Nostradummy from Canada who's greatest "contribution" to the prophecy movement is a weird claim that Nostradamus predicted the coming of Depeche Mode and, through this, the World Trade Center attacks. Apparently we have a celebrity in our midst. I don't know if I take it as a sign of Dennis' decline or my ascension that he's left off bothering Randi and PZ and is now skulking around here.
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20th December 2009, 09:21 AM	#5
Pure Argent Certified Castlevania Fanboy Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Clock Tower Boss Room Posts: 6,259	Originally Posted by grayman Nostradamus is accurate in his predictions (Depeche Mode proves this) and atheists are going to suffer. That about sums it up. Originally Posted by slingblade http://skippytheskeptic.blogspot.com...vid-mabus.html Dude has head problems. Thanks for the link.
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22nd September 2010, 01:14 PM	#6
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 25,042	His latest incarnation on Facebook is James Laambi; Rebecca Watson and Joe Nickell have been recent recipients of his attentions.
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22nd September 2010, 01:56 PM	#7
Alareth Expert Expertologist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 6,807	He also likes to issue death threats http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2...is_markuze.php Don't forget to get the t-shirt http://www.atheistnexus.org/forum/to...ource=activity
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22nd September 2010, 02:27 PM	#8
Agatha Winking at the Moon Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 4,303	Aw, bless* him! He's banned from so many places, I suppose facebook was the next step. *May not reflect my real feelings.
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22nd September 2010, 02:30 PM	#9
sadhatter Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,743	"Just don't look, just don't look....." I am not the biggest the simpsons fan, but when it comes to Mabus, i find this advice would be the best weapon in our arsenal against him. The guy is obviously just in it for the laughs and the attention, and no matter where i see his ramblings i see angry posts afterward, regardless of how quickly his posts are deleted. Insane? Probably not, in all honesty he seems concerned about keeping " interesting" and keeping a good balance of silly and vitriolic. This to me simply screams fraud. I think if everyone would simply ignore the person/persons, he would eventually go away. But with every thread like this, and with every post back to him, he is a bit more encouraged to keep doing this. He gets his kicks out of people being confused, not so much angry, but confused. So if we really don't want to see him, we need to act like we already don't.
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22nd September 2010, 04:24 PM	#10
Alareth Expert Expertologist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 6,807	No sadhatter, he's a lunatic. I've had a glimpse of some of the backend issues he's caused for forums and such. He spends entire days spamming account creation on sites he's been banned from trying to get a sock through. He floods peoples e-mail with his vitriol. He is not a stable individual.
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22nd September 2010, 06:54 PM	#11
Astreja Springy Goddess Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 977	I'm familiar with him. I've had the displeasure of 'disappearing' some of his spam when I was modding at another board. When I saw the title, I was hoping this was a news item about him being arrested for the death threats he's made.

23rd September 2010, 12:07 AM	#12
shadron Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,719	I was looking into the ThinkingAtheist.com forum. That forum is small enough to be self-policing, and one of the volunteers helping out with admin duties posted this:: Quote: The Rule From now on, I will be enforcing one rule on this site. That rule is: 1. Do not be David Mabus. Anyone who is David Mabus will have their account banned, deleted, and I.P. blocked. I have already done this to all previous Mabus accounts.

23rd September 2010, 12:22 AM	#13
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23rd September 2010, 12:27 AM	#14
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 25,042	Originally Posted by sadhatter "Just don't look, just don't look....." I am not the biggest the simpsons fan, but when it comes to Mabus, i find this advice would be the best weapon in our arsenal against him. The guy is obviously just in it for the laughs and the attention, and no matter where i see his ramblings i see angry posts afterward, regardless of how quickly his posts are deleted. Insane? Probably not, in all honesty he seems concerned about keeping " interesting" and keeping a good balance of silly and vitriolic. This to me simply screams fraud. I think if everyone would simply ignore the person/persons, he would eventually go away. But with every thread like this, and with every post back to him, he is a bit more encouraged to keep doing this. He gets his kicks out of people being confused, not so much angry, but confused. So if we really don't want to see him, we need to act like we already don't. I think there's a difference between the responses to his posts, which presumably he intends to provoke, wherever he makes them, and threads like this, mostly explaining who he is. It helps those who unexpectedly become the focus of his attention if they can find some explanation of who he is, and that they are not alone. It is rather disappointing that he still apparently has unfettered access to the internet despite his death threats having been reported to the authorities well over a year ago. Whether the threats are something he is willing or able to carry out doesn't have any effect on how they are perceived by someone who receives them out of the blue.
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23rd September 2010, 02:11 AM	#15
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23rd September 2010, 02:37 AM	#16
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3rd October 2010, 06:18 PM	#18
Alareth Expert Expertologist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 6,807	Time to make up wanted posters, he's no longer faceless http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2...ze_exposed.php
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3rd October 2010, 06:19 PM	#19
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13th August 2011, 01:54 PM	#20
catsmate1 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Dublin (the one in Ireland) Posts: 7,247	Bump. Rather than derailing the FM thread any more. It would appear that an investigation is in progress (French/Google translation). From here. Quote: Following a deluge of thousands of complaints from around the world, Montreal police have launched an investigation into a St. Laurent man accused of making hundreds, if not thousands of deadly threats. The man is believed to be Dennis Markuze, but uses a variety of pseudonyms when online, including David Mabus and Hebert Marxuxe. Complainants say that he creates accounts on Twitter or on message boards then starts insulting, harassing, and threatening atheists, scientists, and journalists with profanity-laden messages telling people that they will be executed and subjected to the judgement of God. In October 2010 Markuze showed up at the Atheist Alliance International conference in Montreal, where he was recognized and challenged by attendees before he left. Someone identifying themselves as Markuze then went online to the Humanist Canada website and wrote: "believe me, the only reason the photo is available is because I WANTED IT OUT THERE.... actually it is quite a flattering photo of me: With finger cocked and pointing, I say "And I gotta take out these idiots!" Also stories here, here, here and here. Though at least one xian wackjob claims, in the great tradition of crying "shill", that Markuze is a "Deep Cover Liberal". It would also seem his mental state is in decline, here's some vintage Markuze from back in 1994. Quote: Women are on a lower rung of evolution compared to men, the difference between men and women is like the difference between animals and plants. First comes God, then the Angels, then men, then women, then animals, then plants. You can count the number of female geniuses on one hand! Which women have contributed to philosophy, painting, music, chess,etc..? Alright, the Polgar sisters may be geniuses, but they are freaks of nature! To be a genius by defintion is to be a male (Webster, if you are reading this, be sure to add this in your next edition). A female genius is a contradiction of terms. A woman may be intelligent but never a genius,of course, exceptions do occur, like the baby that is born with twelve fingers. P.S. No hate mail from the ladies, please. I'm safe here behind my computer,you can't scratch out my eyes even if you wanted to. Back then he managed actual, coherent, sentences of nonsensical, misogynistic bile.

13th August 2011, 10:33 PM	#21
MattusMaximus Intellectual Gladiator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the midst of a vast, beautiful & uncaring universe Posts: 14,204	I had thought up until this point "my blog has never been 'Mabussed'", but once I read PZ's article and saw the Depeche Mode video reference, I think this clown actually has commented on my blog. Of course, it seemed to me to be just weird spam, so I deleted it. Interesting...
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17th August 2011, 02:09 PM	#22
catsmate1 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Dublin (the one in Ireland) Posts: 7,247	Update: 17AUG2011 Montreal police have announced that a suspect has been arrested (story). They have not stated who has been arrested. The CBC news also covered Markuze/Mabus (about 4:30 in) However many atheists/humanists with a significant online presence (e.g. PZ) have reported a diminution in insane and ranting death threats over the last few days.

17th August 2011, 02:17 PM	#23
AdMan Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,343	Originally Posted by catsmate1 Update: 17AUG2011 Montreal police have announced that a suspect has been arrested (story). They have not stated who has been arrested. The CBC news also covered Markuze/Mabus (about 4:30 in) However many atheists/humanists with a significant online presence (e.g. PZ) have reported a diminution in insane and ranting death threats over the last few days. Well, this certainly would be good news. He's a lunatic and it's likely only a matter of time before he decides to actually hurt someone.
AdMan Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,343	__________________ It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

17th August 2011, 06:26 PM	#24
Complexity The Woo Whisperer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Minnesota, USA Posts: 9,263	He's an evil, annoying, and tacky creature.
	__________________ "It is a great nuisance that knowledge can only be acquired by hard work." - W. Somerset Maugham "Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible; thought is merciless to privilege, established intuititions, and comfortable habit. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid. Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man." - Bertrand Russell

17th August 2011, 06:30 PM	#25
JudeBrando Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,701	Originally Posted by Complexity He's an evil, annoying, and tacky creature. Everybody else is evil. Are you evil?
JudeBrando Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,701

17th August 2011, 07:58 PM	#26
AdinDraco Muse Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 669	Originally Posted by JudeBrando Everybody else is evil. Are you evil? What's your definition of evil? I consider myself not-evil and, using the barest minimum of info and playing the odds, would assume the vast majority of the rest of the forum members to not be evil either. Otherwise I'm not sure I understand your post.

17th August 2011, 08:00 PM	#27
AdinDraco Muse Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 669	Thinking about it....it doesn't matter if I or anyone else is pure evil incarnate. We can call the specific act of sending hundreds/thousands of death threats "evil" and not be factually wrong.

17th August 2011, 08:51 PM	#28
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Japan Posts: 16,030	The full story: http://skeptools.wordpress.com/2011/...l-media-mabus/
	__________________ “Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them. With Major Major it had been all three.” ― Joseph Heller, Catch-22

17th August 2011, 09:16 PM	#29
devnull Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,537	Originally Posted by Complexity He's an evil, annoying, and tacky creature. He's probably not evil, only ill.
	__________________ no, i don't think i need to read naturalistic literature more accurately, to be convinced its true. - Gibhor

17th August 2011, 09:28 PM	#30
AdMan Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,343	Originally Posted by Puppycow The full story: http://skeptools.wordpress.com/2011/...l-media-mabus/ Thanks for linking to this (and for krelnik for writing it and all his and everyone else's efforts, of course). It's fascinating how it turned out.
AdMan Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,343	__________________ It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan Last edited by AdMan; 17th August 2011 at 09:30 PM.

18th August 2011, 03:12 AM	#31
Darat Lackey Administrator / JREF Forum Liaison Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 64,990	Being one his targets for several years now I had wondered why he seemed to have almost given up the ghost this year, it looks as if he had turned his attention to Twitter and with me not being active on Twitter I was thankfully no longer one of his primary targets. I can understand why some folk may have felt threatened with the Twitter stuff since he was limited to 140 characters it made his threats clearer but he has been making all the same threats since at least 2004 (which is when I got my first email from him) so in my view I don't think there was an escalation or change that indicates that he may now present a physical threat. I've always felt sorry for him as he was obviously a deeply disturbed individual. If his arrest results in him receiving some form of treatment I'll be very pleased.
	__________________ If it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart? - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn 1918-2008

18th August 2011, 03:48 AM	#32
catsmate1 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Dublin (the one in Ireland) Posts: 7,247	Originally Posted by Darat Being one his targets for several years now I had wondered why he seemed to have almost given up the ghost this year, it looks as if he had turned his attention to Twitter and with me not being active on Twitter I was thankfully no longer one of his primary targets. I can understand why some folk may have felt threatened with the Twitter stuff since he was limited to 140 characters it made his threats clearer but he has been making all the same threats since at least 2004 (which is when I got my first email from him) so in my view I don't think there was an escalation or change that indicates that he may now present a physical threat. I've always felt sorry for him as he was obviously a deeply disturbed individual. If his arrest results in him receiving some form of treatment I'll be very pleased. He once spent more than a month and over 250 messages arguing with an auto-respond script I'd set up for his emails; he seemed to have become less coherent in recent years.

18th August 2011, 03:54 AM	#33
Darat Lackey Administrator / JREF Forum Liaison Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 64,990	Originally Posted by catsmate1 He once spent more than a month and over 250 messages arguing with an auto-respond script I'd set up for his emails; he seemed to have become less coherent in recent years. Any attention pleased him, whether it was a script or not! I managed over the years to get a few of his gmail accounts closed over the years and he would seemingly respond to that with glee since it meant that someone else had seen his message. Very sad.
	__________________ If it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart? - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn 1918-2008

18th August 2011, 04:50 AM	#34
Jeff Corey New York Skeptic Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,797	Spammer "David Mabus" Arrested According to the Bad Astronomer's blog, a spammer who has been making death threats to prominent skeptics (including Phil) has been arrested by Montreal police. Here is Phil's link to the story by Tim Farley. http://skeptools.wordpress.com/2011/...l-media-mabus/
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18th August 2011, 05:00 AM	#35
Darat Lackey Administrator / JREF Forum Liaison Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 64,990	We've been discussing it over in R&P in an older thread about him: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=162630 new discussion starts from: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...84#post7484384
	__________________ If it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart? - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn 1918-2008

18th August 2011, 05:12 AM	#36
Jeff Corey New York Skeptic Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,797	I guess I should have done a search before posting, but I thought that it was more appropriate here than in R&P. Maybe it should be merged.