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Old 18th August 2011, 10:31 AM   #41
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My first, and staying thought, about this is:
"Thank ****. Maybe now he'll get some help."
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Old 18th August 2011, 01:08 PM   #42
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Any attention pleased him, whether it was a script or not! I managed over the years to get a few of his gmail accounts closed over the years and he would seemingly respond to that with glee since it meant that someone else had seen his message. Very sad.
It was rather like watch a kitten with a ball of wool.
A retarded kitten who got so tangled in the wool that he starved.
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Old 18th August 2011, 01:10 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by Akhenaten View Post
Some of his most recent work is on display at the world universe famous Australasian Skeptics Forum.
And to think he could once string words into coherent sentences of nonsensical bile.
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Old 18th August 2011, 01:22 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by catsmate1 View Post
And to think he could once string words into coherent sentences of nonsensical bile.


Pretty tragic, isn't it?
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Tales of his trolling will be sung under bridges for centuries to come.
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Strangely, I feel somewhat slighted, having never heard from him that I can recall (and, from the sound of it, it seems I would recall it, had I ever heard from him).

Perhaps the topic of Sylvia Browne didn't push his buttons.
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A retarded kitten who got so tangled in the wool that he starved.
That would make an interesting epitaph.
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Old 18th August 2011, 03:18 PM   #48
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Originally Posted by RSLancastr View Post
Strangely, I feel somewhat slighted, having never heard from him that I can recall (and, from the sound of it, it seems I would recall it, had I ever heard from him).

Perhaps the topic of Sylvia Browne didn't push his buttons.
I doubt he knows who she is; but dare to express your atheism openly and you'd get a flood of incoherent gibberish.
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Old 19th August 2011, 02:57 PM   #49
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Montreal's 'Mabus' faces 16 charges for online threats


The Montreal man who had been wanted by police for allegedly making online death threats against people all over the world appeared in court on Friday to face 16 charges.

Known online as “David Mabus”, Dennis Markuze of St. Laurent has been charged with uttering death threats and for criminally harassing seven victims.

Two charges were laid against him Wednesday -- and an additional 14 were added on Friday.

Markuze has been sent for a 30-day psychological evaluation at Montreal’s Pinel Institute and will appear in court again on Sept. 19.
http://www.globalmontreal.com/montre...983/story.html
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Old 19th August 2011, 02:59 PM   #50
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Montreal's 'Mabus' faces 16 charges for online threats

Markuze has been sent for a 30-day psychological evaluation

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Old 19th August 2011, 08:34 PM   #51
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A more detailed but earlier report http://arstechnica.com/science/news/...1#comments-bar
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Old 19th August 2011, 09:12 PM   #52
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The latest today is that he appeared in court, and the prosecutors upped what he was facing to 16 charges of making threats. (Previously it was 2 charges - for the two local plaintiffs they have there in Montreal). I think the 14 extra charges cover several people outside Montreal who provided evidence.

He was ordered to a mental hospital for a 30-day evaluation, which was the expected (and best) result. He will re-appear in court on September 19 and we'll find out what happens then.

The detective collected a bunch of names to put on a "do not contact" list in the event he is released (which can't happen before September 19 now). Randi will be on that, as will I, and whoever else contacted her this week with evidence that they were directly threatened more than once. If and when that is in place, if he ever contacts any of those people he can be re-arrested immediately. I am not a lawyer, but I THINK a do-not-contact order on Randi would cover the forum and the main randi.org web site.

Here's the latest news story on it.

Here's my massive blog post that collects up the entire history.
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Old 19th August 2011, 10:26 PM   #53
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Originally Posted by krelnik View Post
The latest today is that he appeared in court, and the prosecutors upped what he was facing to 16 charges of making threats. (Previously it was 2 charges - for the two local plaintiffs they have there in Montreal). I think the 14 extra charges cover several people outside Montreal who provided evidence.

He was ordered to a mental hospital for a 30-day evaluation, which was the expected (and best) result. He will re-appear in court on September 19 and we'll find out what happens then.

The detective collected a bunch of names to put on a "do not contact" list in the event he is released (which can't happen before September 19 now). Randi will be on that, as will I, and whoever else contacted her this week with evidence that they were directly threatened more than once. If and when that is in place, if he ever contacts any of those people he can be re-arrested immediately. I am not a lawyer, but I THINK a do-not-contact order on Randi would cover the forum and the main randi.org web site.

Here's the latest news story on it.

Here's my massive blog post that collects up the entire history.

Excellent blog article - I didn't find it massive, at all, and in fact wanted it to not end. I've been following Mabus' career for years - he used to show up in the most ridiculous places. I always reckoned he was some sort of bot, until recent years.
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Old 20th August 2011, 10:37 AM   #54
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David Mabus arrested!

After years of threats and spamming, David Mabus aka Dennis Markuze has finally been arrested.
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...833/story.html

Here's how it went down:
http://skeptools.wordpress.com/2011/...l-media-mabus/

I'm sure hundreds of skeptics and atheists are relieved.
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Old 20th August 2011, 11:10 AM   #55
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Two other previous threads covered this a few days ago,
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Sorry..I searched but didn't find any.

Mods please delete.
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Mods won't delete. You have to report your OP and ask for a merge.

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Old 20th August 2011, 11:16 AM   #58
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Here's the merged thread

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Old 20th August 2011, 12:57 PM   #59
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The latest today is that he appeared in court, and the prosecutors upped what he was facing to 16 charges of making threats. (Previously it was 2 charges - for the two local plaintiffs they have there in Montreal). I think the 14 extra charges cover several people outside Montreal who provided evidence.

He was ordered to a mental hospital for a 30-day evaluation, which was the expected (and best) result. He will re-appear in court on September 19 and we'll find out what happens then.

The detective collected a bunch of names to put on a "do not contact" list in the event he is released (which can't happen before September 19 now). Randi will be on that, as will I, and whoever else contacted her this week with evidence that they were directly threatened more than once. If and when that is in place, if he ever contacts any of those people he can be re-arrested immediately. I am not a lawyer, but I THINK a do-not-contact order on Randi would cover the forum and the main randi.org web site.

Here's the latest news story on it.

Here's my massive blog post that collects up the entire history.

Thanks for going to the trouble, it neatly summarized the entire turgid history of this apparent megalomaniac's antics over the past decade and a half. Let's hope that his arrest and psych evaluation will result in some peace for all concerned.

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...but he has been making all the same threats since at least 2004 (which is when I got my first email from him)...
Was he calling himself David Mabus back then, or is that a later invention?

I'm asking, because I've had this nagging feeling it was to honour me and Dave_W. at Skeptic Friends Network. It wasn't until he started hitting Skepticality and SFN that I ended up on his radar. (edit: back in 2006)

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So, anyone know the status of Markuze/Mabus now?

He was supposed to appear in court Yesterday (September 19) following his psychiatric assessment, but I haven't heard about whether he's been released or will be kept longer.
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Results are in according to PZ Myers:

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The court-required month-long psychiatric evaluation of Dennis Markuze is complete, and the diagnosis is "Bi-polar, compounded by alcohol and substance abuse". He is now in a substance abuse rehab center, with another court date scheduled for 2 December.
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Just as a crumb trail for future visitors to this thread, I posted an update with furuther details on the main JREF SWIFT blog:

"David Mabus" Diagnosed and In Treatment.

Current status is he is still being treated, we will hear again about his status on December 2, 2011 or shortly thereafter.
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Originally Posted by krelnik View Post
Just as a crumb trail for future visitors to this thread, I posted an update with furuther details on the main JREF SWIFT blog:

"David Mabus" Diagnosed and In Treatment.

Current status is he is still being treated, we will hear again about his status on December 2, 2011 or shortly thereafter.
One complaint. Neither your blog nor this article mentions this forum.
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Originally Posted by krelnik View Post
Just as a crumb trail for future visitors to this thread, I posted an update with furuther details on the main JREF SWIFT blog:

"David Mabus" Diagnosed and In Treatment.

Current status is he is still being treated, we will hear again about his status on December 2, 2011 or shortly thereafter.
I really hope they can help him, I can't imagine how terrible it has been for him living with the delusions his mind created.
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I really hope they can help him, I can't imagine how terrible it has been for him living with the delusions his mind created.
It's clear from his posts that he was very angry all the time, and his world was full of enemies. That's not a pleasant way to live. I hope that they can help him as well.

I also hope that he's never, ever, ever allowed near a computer again, but that's probably asking too much.
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One complaint. Neither your blog nor this article mentions this forum.
Is there a particular reason that it should?
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Originally Posted by rjh01 View Post
One complaint. Neither your blog nor this article mentions this forum.
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Is there a particular reason that it should?

I was wondering that myself. Why should I have mentioned it?
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I was wondering that myself. Why should I have mentioned it?
1. You have mentioned both your blog and your SWIFT article here. So how about doing the same there? Tit-for tat.

2. Promote the forum. If the forum gets more members then that will improve society by exposing these people to new ideas from this forum.

3. If others do the same it might send more people to your blog and SWIFT via this forum.

Edit. There are heaps of other good reasons, but they will do for starters.

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1. You have mentioned both your blog and your SWIFT article here. So how about doing the same there? Tit-for tat.
I mentioned my blog post and my SWIFT article here because they are relevant to what we are talking about here.

How is the forum relevant to talking about David Mabus?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for cross promotion of skeptical resources. Check the links in any article I've written, I'm always linking around to good skeptic sites, including this forum. In fact, I wrote a SWIFT article two days ago that has a link to another forum thread that is relevant to its topic, look for it in the next week or so.

But I'm not going to put an irrelevant link in an article purely for promotional reasons
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Originally Posted by krelnik View Post
I mentioned my blog post and my SWIFT article here because they are relevant to what we are talking about here.

How is the forum relevant to talking about David Mabus?
It is not the forum that is relevant, it is this thread. This thread is talking about David Mabus.
Or maybe this tag might be better david mabus. Then any other relevant threads can be automatically linked.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm all for cross promotion of skeptical resources. Check the links in any article I've written, I'm always linking around to good skeptic sites, including this forum. In fact, I wrote a SWIFT article two days ago that has a link to another forum thread that is relevant to its topic, look for it in the next week or so.
That is great. One of the few SWIFT articles that link to this forum. I got annoyed some time ago. They were publishing articles on the same subject as threads that had been created a few days ago and had not mentioned this forum at all. Yet the people who own SWIFT also own this forum. I then got them to put up a few relevant links for awhile.
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Admittedly off-topic, but germane to the last few posts, here's the aforementioned SWIFT blog post in which I link back to the Forum: Follow Up on NOFOLLOW
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Admittedly off-topic, but germane to the last few posts, here's the aforementioned SWIFT blog post in which I link back to the Forum: Follow Up on NOFOLLOW
Thanks.
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Admittedly off-topic, but germane to the last few posts, here's the aforementioned SWIFT blog post in which I link back to the Forum: Follow Up on NOFOLLOW
The use of nofollow is one of the few areas that Jeff and myself could not agree on and he overruled me. I used to edit (and allowed the mod team to do the same) some links to extreme sites when I came across them (for example links to disgusting Holocaust denial sites) to add the "no follow" argument, Jeff thought this was wrong and stopped all such edits. In the end Jeff and I did come up with a compromise and that he allowed me to alter the software so that all links have "no follow" on them.
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What, so all links posted in this forum have a NOFOLLOW added automatically? I did not know that.
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Jadey (in RvB game thread): I just want to take a moment to commend Arth on his role as Parasitic Alien Tumor. I think he really connected with the character and there were times when I forgot that he was just acting. That's the kind of talent that you can't teach.
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Old 14th October 2011, 04:45 AM   #76
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What, so all links posted in this forum have a NOFOLLOW added automatically? I did not know that.
Yep - from my quote of krelnik's post above:

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		Admittedly off-topic, but germane to the last few posts, here's the aforementioned SWIFT blog post in which I link back to the Forum: <a href="http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1456-follow-up-on-nofollow.html"  ******rel="nofollow"****** rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Follow Up on NOFOLLOW</a>
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Now that Jeff no longer has the authority, do you think you could go back to the old way?
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Jadey (in RvB game thread): I just want to take a moment to commend Arth on his role as Parasitic Alien Tumor. I think he really connected with the character and there were times when I forgot that he was just acting. That's the kind of talent that you can't teach.
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Probably should go to FM with this? Start a thread and I'll join you.
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If it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart? -
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn 1918-2008
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Bump. Does anyone have further news? Markuze was posting again late last year and appears to be sporadically active again, though in a less threatening manner.
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I have spoken with the police on occasion, last I heard he was still in the substance abuse program. The police insisted he was under a "no internet" order, but it does seem clear that he has posted on YouTube once and one forum a few times since his arrest.

I've been meaning to phone them back up to get a status report but life keeps intervening.
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