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this whole affair just makes me wish that it was easier to get people the help they need to deal with mental illness.
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It shouldn't be so hard in Canada, but if the patient is unwilling to be helped, I don't know that there's much that can be done. It's sad because it's an illness where one of the symptoms is frequently an unwillingness to accept help.
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Honestly , what it makes me wonder, is where in the hell are our psychos?
Seriously, we have reams of people willing to threaten members of the sketpic movement, and devote massive amounts of time in effort into it, not trolls, but honest to Kord, ****** off lunatics. The kind of people that are only not doing these things because of lack of ability to pull them off. Yet, you don't really see the same thing on the opposite side of the spectrum. Sure there are some folks who would flippantly say "If all christians were shot the world would be a better place." , but no raging Norman Bates types the likes of Mabus. It honestly boggles my mind. With all the crappy things various purveyors of woo do, how they have not attracted someone with a low level of mental stability and a high level of skepticism, just blows my mind. Not saying i want this to happen, in fact i think it would be a massive blow that would set skepticism back quite a bit, but it still, none the less, boggles my mind. |
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Domestic Godless
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Heretic Pharaoh
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Penguilicious Spodmaster.
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Perhaps because Markuze isn't meant to be posting to forums (and he still needs help). Although I'm not sure if that's the case anymore.
If he's posted threats on these forums since his trial, and is still posting when he shouldn't (if he shouldn't), proof might lead him to be treated further. But yeah, things are all a bit iffy at the moment.
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Domestic Godless
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If it is Markuze, then yes - it is good that the appropriate people take trhe appropriate steps with regard to any legal rulings.
That's different from proving who did it, if it is actually a fan, or just some other internet troll, who is essentially engaging in harmless trolling. |
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I think rjh01 only meant that he hoped they could find out whether it was Markuze or not.
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https://groups.google.com/forum/?fro...sm/YOaZU1CkKW8
Looks like a threat to me. |
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No, what I was trying to say is that the police appear (now) to agree with us that Dennis Markuze is under restrictions that would prohibit this type of behavior.
If in fact these posts are being made by Markuze, he is probably in violation of the court. But an IP address and a similar tone are far from proof that it is him. It's not entirely clear whether the police are willing to make an effort to eliminate that ambiguity. I've been holding off bothering them to give them a chance to investigate. Also, our local complainant (a Montreal resident who filed the first complaint last year) is on vacation this week. |
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Imagine if it was someone from the same city who was a copy cat person. I think it would be hard to prove it was not Markuze unless they found out who he actually was.
Only the police would have the power to get the evidence that would say it was or was not him. Getting the police to do the work might not be easy. Look what it took last time! |
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Latest post on Skeps.org from "warchimps"
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The fact that he is visiting his old haunts and making the same posts shows clearly that it is the same man. I am moderator on a small forum where Mabus regularly showed up (to have his posts deleted immediately). Now it is happening again. how could a "fan" know which small forums to spam?
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Is there any way that you can prove it's the same guy? Does he need the same password as the original guy? If you have proof beyond the fact that it seems like him, you might be able to provide the police with the evidence they need in order to get him to stop and maybe get some of the help he needs.
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That could be one way to prove it is him. He would be using a different user id, yet if he had the same password then the only explanation would be that it is the same person. The main problem is that if the forum had decent software that would be impossible to confirm.
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Illuminator
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Location: Denmark
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We ban him every time, but he just creates a new user. We have also tried banning whole ranges of IP-addresses, but he uses proxies all over the world.
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He is back to posting at Skeptical Community too.
I just ignore him because he only posts in one subforum in threads that he starts himself. Doctor X and some others like to make fun of him. |
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History repeating.
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If you kept records of his attempts to post since his conviction, you might still have evidence that you are not aware of. If it's him, he might be trying user names and passwords are established as definitely being him before the conviction. Your board probably has guarantees of privacy, so you probably can't share it, but you might have the evidence that's needed in this case.
I'm no expert, but if the people who run the boards and forums that he's haunting were to team up, they might be able to find the truth about who's posting. Ward |
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...but not JUST a LibraryLady
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What would Hüsker Dü? I am still not a political person, but I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about. Mildred Loving |
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That link is an important one because he's using the same account as previously. He's logged back into a pre-trial account using the same password. Thus proving that it isn't just a "fan" (as if anyone would be a fan of such insanity, not even other religious nutjobs want to touch him).
My previous concerns that it just might possibly be a troll trying to get Markuze into trouble are gone. It's him. |
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The poor guy is ill. It's no excuse, but Doctor X needs to grow up a little I think.
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Yup, he's back. He's a repeat poster here.
http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/for...php?f=7&t=2425 |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Well, he -- or his "fan" -- is right back here on the JREF site:
The Million Dollar Challenge at TAM 2012 . See comments if it hasn't yet been deleted. |
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The comments on the SWIFT articles come from a different account than those here in the forum.
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