Moderated: VisionFromFeeling Formerly Alenara

[Uncayimmy]

It turns out that our very own Vision From Feeling, who claims just to innocently be investigating her claims, was a breatharian by the name of Alenara. Here she is giving a (veoh.com/browse/videos/category/educational_and_howto/watch/v18655831Atdj36N9#") Living on Light lecture in Poland back in 2002. Turns out Alenara is in the process of cleaning up these videos from YouTube (just closed the account), but I was able to find this one.

(angelfire.com/stars3/breathe_light/) Alenara's websiteis still up but not maintained. More research to follow to on this Alenara character's claims.

Edited by Tricky:

Site addresses changed to plain text. Add the "http://www." to the front if you wish to access them. Some firewalls are reporting possible dangerous content, but probably just javascript for one of the ads.

[bookitty]

Awww..she's so young and adorable.

This is from 2002. Vff has never mentioned it. Judging from the website, she has no interest in it any more. I'm not sure it is relevant.

But I am very, very grateful that there was no youtube when I was 20. Not that I'd ever want to run for public office...

[JoeTheJuggler]

Originally Posted by bookitty

Judging from the website, she has no interest in it any more. I'm not sure it is relevant.

Except as another bit of evidence that she is not merely a self-deluded believer but rather a knowing liar and fraud.

Or does she have some way of claiming synaesthesia made it possible for her to eat without noticing it?!

[fromdownunder]

Originally Posted by bookitty

Awww..she's so young and adorable.

This is from 2002. Vff has never mentioned it. Judging from the website, she has no interest in it any more. I'm not sure it is relevant.

She did actually mention that she was a breatharian on a thread here about 6 or so months ago. I will try to find the link. She even necromanced a three year old thread to do it.

Norm

[Empress]

Oh good god.

So she's a breatharian who admits she's chubby b/c of (if I recall the quote correctly) "all this good American food." Seems she's as much a failure as a breatharian as she is as a human MRI. Wonder how much she got paid for those seminars she gave on the subject.

Here's some of the chapters that were going to be in her breatharian book:

Finding the consciousness that is there
Activating each of the body chakras
Making DNA magnetic

Seems she didn't have any better grasp of science before she started at her university than she does now.

Good find, UY.

[GeeMack]

Originally Posted by UncaYimmy

It turns out that our very own Vision From Feeling, who claims just to innocently be investigating her claims, was a breatharian by the name of Alenara. Here she is giving a Living on Light lecture in Poland back in 2002. Turns out Alenara is in the process of cleaning up these videos from YouTube (just closed the account), but I was able to find this one.

Alenara's website is still up but not maintained. More research to follow to on this Alenara character's claims.

So Anita is a veteran woo peddler. Is anyone truly surprised? This adds yet another layer to the long list of lies she's been spreading here and on her own site(s).

So Anita, when you read this, how's that apology coming along? You know, the one you should be making to all those people you crapped on by lying about your intent and results of the IIG freak show?

[Uncayimmy]

Originally Posted by bookitty

Awww..she's so young and adorable.

This is from 2002. Vff has never mentioned it. Judging from the website, she has no interest in it any more. I'm not sure it is relevant.

Relevant to what? Her antics of the last few years? It most certainly is. She's still spouting the same stuff (seeing inside the body, detecting the effect of substances on the body, being an alien). She's brought up surviving without food and water before claiming she'd never advise anyone to do it (funny thing for a breatharian).

It think this former identity is highly relevant to everything we've seen in terms of her credibility. She talks about it being an open investigation, yet she never bothered to mention that she gave seminars on this stuff and was writing a book on it? If you listen to the video, she's giving medical advice with no training whatsoever, something she claimed she would never do.

[Empress]

Originally Posted by fromdownunder

She did actually mention that she was a breatharian on a thread here about 6 or so months ago. I will try to find the link. She even necromanced a three year old thread to do it.

Norm

Here's her asinine post:
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php...8&postcount=37

[Uncayimmy]

http://www.ufoinfo.com/filer/2005/ff0537.shtml

Quote:

Alenara a lady who lives in Sweden writes, “I would like to tell you that I have arrived, here on Earth and I am an alien incarnation, and I come from another world. I am sure you are open to contact. There is much life in the outer space, and some of us come here!
...
My home world is named Telmaar. We have only sent two individuals from our world to earth. It is I, and another. I know all of my companion, and will tell you about him, his whereabouts, his life mission, and we can even locate him if this is desired. I am a scientist. At home I worked with collecting all known science, the universal truth, that is, what is true science in spite of any beings interpreting or perceiving it in their own ways. This information was stored in a kind of libraries of ours, and I worked there, processing the information. I was in equivalent of earth years more than 370 years. Our average life span on that planet is equivalent of 1200 years. Persons of up to a 200 years are considered adolescent by our people, in our world. I am sent here to work with science.
...
Editor’s Note: I have interviewed Alenara and found her to be a remarkable lady. We are skeptical of her claims, but feel it is only fair to test and learn more about her alien contacts and to her ability to prove her claims. I'm convinced she believes what she tells us. I have pointed out to her that remarkable claims require remarkable proof, and she states she is up to the test.

Read the whole thing. It's a hoot.

[Empress]

Originally Posted by UncaYimmy

http://www.ufoinfo.com/filer/2005/ff0537.shtml


Read the whole thing. It's a hoot.

Wow. That killed part of my brain.

Didn't she claim that her whole "I'm a reincarnated being/Star Person" thing wasn't real, but a "cultural artifact"? (whatever she means by that.) Seems she was genuinely claiming it here.

Anita, your future is toast.

[desertgal]

Originally Posted by Empress

Here's her asinine post:
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php...8&postcount=37

She elaborated further on that claim:

Originally Posted by VisionFromFeeling

The first time I did this, I think I was 17. I am 26 now. I can't recall what ages I was for the other two. I only mentioned this since someone on the Forums had claimed that a human can only survive four days without water.

Originally Posted by VisionFromFeeling

It is not something I speak of openly, and I assure you I am not looking for attention to myself or to this topic.

Why we do this, is to spend some time in detachment from external distractions, which comes to include food and water. It also involves meditation, which is all about bringing the attention to oneself.""The senses of perception are enhanced during that time, vision and hearing become much stronger. There is a sense of energy, lightness, fulfillment, consciousness and self-knowledge that just does not occur otherwise.

What it is is not the same as simply "not eating". I have tried "simply not eating and drinking" and it does not produce the same results. If I simply don't eat and drink I will get hungry, will feel thirsty, will quickly within one day develop all the signs of needing and wanting to eat and drink, and of course would cancel it. However what this is, is a choice and a spiritual experience.. Call it fully placebo, if you will, and if that's what it is, but something happens. There is no sensation of thirst, no hunger, no feeling of need to eat or drink. The obvious signs of starvation and dehydration that are very apparent if simply "not eating/drinking" - are not there.

So there is a difference.

[bookitty]

Originally Posted by UncaYimmy

Relevant to what? Her antics of the last few years? It most certainly is. She's still spouting the same stuff (seeing inside the body, detecting the effect of substances on the body, being an alien). She's brought up surviving without food and water before claiming she'd never advise anyone to do it (funny thing for a breatharian).

It think this former identity is highly relevant to everything we've seen in terms of her credibility. She talks about it being an open investigation, yet she never bothered to mention that she gave seminars on this stuff and was writing a book on it? If you listen to the video, she's giving medical advice with no training whatsoever, something she claimed she would never do.

I want to know who booked her. Someone decided that it would be a good idea to let a 20 year-old girl stand in front of an audience and discuss how she doesn't eat. Brilliant!

20 is an age of exploration, people try on new personalities and ideas daily. Some of them are extremely stupid but it doesn't matter because when you're young, no one takes you seriously.

She's not stupid, there has to be a part of her that realized there were problems with being a breatharian. But then she gets all this justification and immediate gratification and we get VFF instead of Anita, the physics student with the funny story about her high school years.

[fromdownunder]

Originally Posted by bookitty

20 is an age of exploration, people try on new personalities and ideas daily. Some of them are extremely stupid but it doesn't matter because when you're young, no one takes you seriously.

So why did she, by ressurecting a five year old thread to claim her breatharian heritage in June 2009, when she was 27, say this without any disclaimer that she did this when she was "young and foolish?

Quote:

I've done 7 once and 8 twice without any water or food, using techniques of prana. Also I've come across documented cases of people surviving for longer than that when they've had to in cases of emergency. So that four days is incorrect.

However the JREF is right in dismissing paranormal claims of this kind due to the possible harm that could come to a person attempting this claim and also in order to not encourage others to make similar attempts.

Also if Mr. Kolodzey's claim is true, I am sure he can find ways to prove it elsewhere, in a very carefully controlled and SAFE way that would not be made public unless scientists are able to verify the claim.

Norm

[GeeMack]

Originally Posted by UncaYimmy

http://www.ufoinfo.com/filer/2005/ff0537.shtml


Read the whole thing. It's a hoot.

Wonderful stuff like this...

Originally Posted by www.ufoinfo.com: Alena

[...] Today I am able to see all molecules, atoms, electrons, electrical and magnetic fields, gravity, and more. Facing any object or situation, I sense all information of it.

A person's health status, his emotions, thoughts and dreams. I have incredible knowledge in chemistry, physics, and any other aspect of science, that is not yet known here on earth. It is knowledge I have with me, from my home world.

Maybe that's why she gets all A's in... uh... never mind.

[desertgal]

Originally Posted by bookitty

<snip>20 is an age of exploration, people try on new personalities and ideas daily. Some of them are extremely stupid but it doesn't matter because when you're young, no one takes you seriously.

She's not stupid, there has to be a part of her that realized there were problems with being a breatharian. But then she gets all this justification and immediate gratification and we get VFF instead of Anita, the physics student with the funny story about her high school years.

Except...she sent me the text I quoted above when she was 26, not to relate a funny story from her high school years, but in the hope that I WOULD take her seriously and pay her $10,000.

I wouldn't go so far as to call her stupid, but any intelligence she does have is decidedly blinkered by her need to fuel her narcissism. For example, she's exhibited a very poor grasp of the science she has been studying at college level for 4 years.

[bookitty]

Originally Posted by fromdownunder

So why did she, by ressurecting a five year old thread to claim her breatharian heritage in June 2009, when she was 27, say this without any disclaimer that she did this when she was "young and foolish?

Norm

Because some nitwit out there in woo-land encouraged her as a kid.

She is still responsible for all of her actions, even those she made as a wide-eyed kid. I am not trying to justify anything she has said or done. I just have an abundance of empathy for a 20 year old girl who needed Breatharian philosophy for whatever reason.

If I had to guess, I'd say you guys were way smarter than me at that age. Because I see this and cringe in sympathy.

[Moochie]

Good find, UY. Further sleuthing should unearth a wealth of information for your site. I felt that she was destined for a life of woo. I was wrong -- she's already living that life. It seems her appearance here at JREF is simply another chapter. Who knows how long she's been at it. Can anything she says about herself be believed?


M.

[GeeMack]

Originally Posted by Moochie

Good find, UY. Further sleuthing should unearth a wealth of information for your site. I felt that she was destined for a life of woo. I was wrong -- she's already living that life. It seems her appearance here at JREF is simply another chapter. Who knows how long she's been at it. Can anything she says about herself be believed?

Well...

Originally Posted by VisionFromFeeling

Feel free to apply skepticism and call me a liar and a fraud.

I suppose I could be wrong, but I doubt if there's anyone left who hasn't come to the conclusion that she's a liar and a fraud.

[VisionFromFeeling]

Oh no, this is deeply embarrassing. But I was afraid it would show up sooner or later, I just hoped that if I would fail to mention it, it would be later.

I must admit that I am involved in Breatharianism, as a matter of fact each semester break I take the time to get back to it. Today I have had nothing to eat or drink, and I am better than fine.

Starting from the age of 17, I begun to have experiences that led me to Breatharianism. That is about the time I made that website, which I subsequently begun taking down for obvious reasons being that this is not a safe topic to distribute.

I have and had a great deal of insight into this topic, perhaps more than any of its other proponents, which is why at a young age I was invited to do a series of lectures on it. I was reluctant to be filmed and had I a choice today this material would not even be available from me at all. It is funny, actually, that I arrived to do a very simple one hour talk, but the man arranging this kept urging me to go for at least four hours.

I have not earned a penny off this. I did get paid a one-time amount after each lecture, but that amount simply covered my travel and accommodation expenses, which I paid for. I have not been given any amount for videos sold by this person or for the part that I have in his book. Nor have I asked to. This is not a profit-oriented thing for me, although I do admit that some others in Breatharianism are earning/scamming impressive amounts.

I will be very careful with what I share about this, because the last thing I want is to encourage someone to not eat or drink, who is incapable of doing Breatharianism safely, successfully, and comfortably. This is a very important part of my life, it is also highly personal, intimate, private, and spiritual and religious. I will gladly answer questions and explain things about this, however I do appreciate if we do remain civil, since this is very personal and intimate to me.

Since those years, I have become a science student. But I still maintain my personal and religious identity in what is my personal space. I would have hard to believe that my personal experiences, my choices of food, and my spiritual and religious beliefs, all of which are guarded by laws that prohibit discrimination, would lead my professional scientific career to suffer. Especially since I practice pure and conventional science in my work, in every much the same way as any person of any personal or religious belief.

However, I will gladly partake in the merciless dissection of this subject that I am sure will now follow. I am today a skeptic and science student, and I do realize the controversy and seriousness of this potentially lethal subject. Rather than promoting this to others, I advocate safety and common sense, and I do believe that any part of a controversial pseudoscientific topic such as this, that does not survive scientific and skeptical perspective is certainly to be discarded. However, no amount of common sense changes the fact that this does remain a real, true, and very important part of my life.

Aw, and just as I was hoping to retire from all of this.

[fromdownunder]

Originally Posted by bookitty

If I had to guess, I'd say you guys were way smarter than me at that age. Because I see this and cringe in sympathy.

I did some pretty silly things when I was 20, and "believed" in some silly things (God, for example - I was a church organist, lay preacher and Sunday School teacher). But by the time I got to 27, I was married with two kids, a good job and a house to pay for, and had to "put away childish things". There was a real world to interact with.

At that age, or even now, I would have had sympathy with a twenty year old Anita. But she simply needs to grow up. I have no sympathy with a 27 year old Anita simply because she still acts like a foolish 20 year old, has not learned a damn thing in seven years, and has not discarded any of the woo that she clings to simply because she needs to be "different".

Norm

[bookitty]

Ummm...

I got nothin'

[Questioninggeller]

Originally Posted by UncaYimmy

It turns out that our very own Vision From Feeling, who claims just to innocently be investigating her claims, was a breatharian by the name of Alenara. Here she is giving a Living on Light lecture in Poland back in 2002. Turns out Alenara is in the process of cleaning up these videos from YouTube (just closed the account), but I was able to find this one.

Alenara's website is still up but not maintained. More research to follow to on this Alenara character's claims.

See www.almaranea.net at archive.org. The "about me" page has some stuff about her interests and her name.

Originally Posted by bookitty

I want to know who booked her. Someone decided that it would be a good idea to let a 20 year-old girl stand in front of an audience and discuss how she doesn't eat. Brilliant!

Found this about it:

Quote:

SEMINAR

Body accommodation for live without eating, theory essentials and practical advises.

Lecturer: Alenara


I give my lectures for those who feel an inner connection to the topic of breatharianism. Those who find a connection to the living without food, and are searching for the explanation of what this means. I myself have felt this, and searched for explanations. I will present some of what I've found this far.

I begin with describing your new source of nourishment, that which will replace food: Light. What light is, how you will find it and how to put it to use. After light technology, an elaboration as to how body material is manifested by means of an activated DNA-structure. How breatharianism works within your body, a physical and non-physical aspect combined. And a comparison of light, prana, sunlight and other sources of nourishment. Also related topics such as the relevance of skin color, starvation, food choices, immortality, fasting and more. And of course a little bit about how to become a breatharian and why. I also explain why certain people fail in their aspiring breatharianism, and how to avoid such dangers, making breatharianism a safe, and most wonderful journey to a life you have been searching for.

[desertgal]

Originally Posted by VisionFromFeeling

<snip>However, I will gladly partake in the merciless dissection of this subject that I am sure will now follow. <snip>

Aww...can't we just skip it? Does anyone really want to read more of Anita's endless walls o'text describing how extraordinary she is?

Originally Posted by fromdownunder

I did some pretty silly things when I was 20, and "believed" in some silly things (God, for example - I was a church organist, lay preacher and Sunday School teacher). But by the time I got to 27, I was married with two kids, a good job and a house to pay for, and had to "put away childish things". There was a real world to interact with.

At that age, or even now, I would have had sympathy with a twenty year old Anita. But she simply needs to grow up. I have no sympathy with a 27 year old Anita simply because she still acts like a foolish 20 year old, has not learned a damn thing in seven years, and has not discarded any of the woo that she clings to simply because she needs to be "different".

Norm

Agreed. Well put, Norm.

[GeeMack]

Originally Posted by VisionFromFeeling

Aw, and just as I was hoping to retire from all of this.

Well, you're a proven liar and fraud. If you want to retire from it all, just go away. Any reasonably intelligent sane person would. Oh, that's right...

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Originally Posted by UncaYimmy

It turns out that our very own Vision From Feeling, who claims just to innocently be investigating her claims, was a breatharian by the name of Alenara. Here she is giving a Living on Light lecture in Poland back in 2002. Turns out Alenara is in the process of cleaning up these videos from YouTube (just closed the account), but I was able to find this one.

Alenara's website is still up but not maintained. More research to follow to on this Alenara character's claims.

She's cute! (she is the blonde giving the lecture, right? I only watched the first minute or so)

[Hokulele]

I am shocked by this revelation. Shocked, I tell you!




Well, no. Not really.

[Furcifer]

I'd love to hear an interpretation of this practice from VFF. I've honestly never heard of this, and while I can Google it, why not give those of us with no clue your version?

[ExMinister]

I'm new to the VisionFromFeeling threads, haven't followed them real closely, but... Do I understand this right? VisionFromFeeling used to go by the name Alenara and claims she is an alien scientist from the planet Telmaar??

[Furcifer]

Originally Posted by ExMinister

VisionFromFeeling used to go by the name Alenara and claims she is an alien scientist from the planet Telmaar??

was, now is again a scientist.

[Ness36]

Here is how Starseed84 describes the videos on his googlecached youtube homepage:

Quote:

Alenara on Breatharianism 18 - Becoming Breatharian
From: starseed84 | November 23, 2009 | 0 views
http://www.angelfire.com/stars3/brea...harianism.html

This video series is a 2 day seminar given in 2002 in Poland on breatharianism, or living on light, by Alenara. You can find much more information on her site of which I have read every page of at least 10 times and counting. I am uploading these videos because I have found the information extremely helpful for my path towards light nourishment, more so than anything else I have come across out there in the research I have done into this. I have assisted myself to bring into my conscious awareness many things which my spirit already knows by learning from many dozens of enlightened individuals in the past 2 years. I am not hesitant to say Alenara is the most amazing person I have come across in my life. She is the only individual I have come across in my life I can agree with 100% on everything she says, which is quite rare. I find others to be much more limited in their understanding of things. She has both a very scientific and esoteric understanding of breatharianism which is unique and particularly of the approach I would like in learning about this. I think this information has the power to catalyze one to start the things within their consciousness which would inevitably lead one to not only full consciousness (enlightenment) but ascension which most of the spiritual teachings out there do not seem to be doing. ...

Ironic, that her efforts to impress everyone with how paranormal and amazing she is worked too well in this case, and caused him to post the embarrasing videos.

Also, here is the same UFO Info Filer's Files that UncaYimmy posted above, but on a different website including pictures, and one of Alenara.

It has the usual Anita Ikonen/Vision From Feeling/Alenara trademarks of glowing white halo and pink background. I am pretty sure the picture is Heather Locklear from a L'Oreal haircolor ad.

Here is some writing about Anita Ikonen/Alenara from an online book:LIFE STYLE WITHOUT FOOD by Joachim M Werdin

Quote:

...Alenara suggested a method to determine, whether feeling hunger is caused by RBN or by an emerging emotion. In order to determine this, the person imagines that he/she will not eat the thing he/she feels hunger for. When imaging this the person gives attention to the emotional reaction of the body. If there is no reaction, it shows rather for RBN. If there was an emotional reaction, particularly one grounded on fear, it indicates other cause. Most often it is about fear or an emotion being released. ...

...
Alenara: From Sweden. When she was a teenager she discovered how bad food influ-ences her body. Since then she was moving in direction of breatharianism, especially when she does not feel to be compelled to eat. Alenara, although she does not call herself a breatharian, has a lot of knowledge about living without food. She is one of a few persons on Earth, who can explain breath-arianism so well. Her web site contains a lot of information http://www.an-gelfire.com/stars3/breathe_light. ...

From Alenara/Anita Ikonen's website it looks like she got all her information from a book by an author called Jasmuheen:

Quote:

If it weren't for her book, "Living on Light", I don't know when, or if ever, I would have known what was right for me all along.

It is kind of depressing how a 20 year old who read one book about breatharianism can instantly become an authority and highly regarded in the breatharian community. Tons of breatharian websites praiser her and link to her videos.

Honestly, this belief in breatharianism coming from a young woman with perfectionist tendencies (see 4.0 gpa debacle), seems like it may be some form of eating disorder or anorexia. That is what I would be worried about if someone close to me started acting this way.

Oops, I was about to finish my post when I noticed this on the day 2 part 4 of 4 video. It is some kind of star person/alien drawing. I don't feel like watching the whole thing enough to find out exactly what it is, but I had to share it with everyone.

[wardenclyffe]

While I'm very grateful for this holiday gift, I have to ask UncaYimmy how he found this info. Obviously many people have researched her online. What "broke the story" in this case, unless you are not allowed to reveal your sources.

Ward

[ScottXSI]

VisionfromFeeling, I'd like to know if you ever did anything like go to the gym during these periods of not eating?
If not would you be willing to give it a try? 30 mins of cardio and some light weight training 3 days in a row, just to see what would happen.

It seems pretty obvious to me that if all your doing is sitting on your behind meditating and not using up any energy, then of course you can go for longer periods of time without food or drink.

[Uncayimmy]

Originally Posted by VisionFromFeeling

Oh no, this is deeply embarrassing. But I was afraid it would show up sooner or later, I just hoped that if I would fail to mention it, it would be later.

That's always the way it is with you. Your stories always continue to evolve.

The whole breatharian thing is rather stupid. I couldn't care much less about it. What's really important is that it reveals the depth of your dishonesty and delusions. You make like this whole "Vision From Feeling" thing is simply your investigation of astounding personal experiences over the last few years. You claim you are skeptical and that you're not claiming any special abilities.

The truth is, as seen below, is that you have been making these claims for years before ever popping up as VisionFromFeeling. You claim that you have these special abilities because you are an alien incarnation inside of a human. There are no "compelling experiences" that lead you to "investigate" these claims. You've been making the same claims for years and years.

Your dishonesty disgusts me.

Quote:

http://www.rense.com/general67/filers37.htm
I was always able to remember who I was. I have had contact with otherworldly (alien) people all this life. They helped me learn and remember science, and enhanced my telepathic and extrasensory perception. Today I am able to see all molecules, atoms, electrons, electrical and magnetic fields, gravity, and more. Facing any object or situation, I sense all information of it.

A person's health status, his emotions, thoughts and dreams. I have incredible knowledge in chemistry, physics, and any other aspect of science, that is not yet known here on earth. It is knowledge I have with me, from my home world.

I can manifest atoms and soon also larger objects, and am learning to gain back my abilities and knowledge as I had prior to my incarnation.

[VisionFromFeeling]

Alright, take it easy.

Originally Posted by Ness36

Also, here is the same UFO Info Filer's Files ... It has the usual Anita Ikonen/Vision From Feeling/Alenara trademarks of glowing white halo and pink background. ...

Major Filer posted that picture, not me, and without asking me first. It wasn't even finished. I have some better ones and lately drawings from scratch. Sorry about that.

Originally Posted by Ness36

From Alenara/Anita Ikonen's website it looks like she got all her information from a book by an author called Jasmuheen

No. I get my information from my own experiences.

Originally Posted by Ness36

It is kind of depressing how a 20 year old who read one book about breatharianism can instantly become an authority and highly regarded in the breatharian community. Tons of breatharian websites praiser her and link to her videos.

The information I have about the topic comes from my own perspective and experiences. And luckily, I am today a skeptic and science student so it is like I have crossed over to the skeptical side.

Originally Posted by Ness36

Honestly, this belief in breatharianism coming from a young woman with perfectionist tendencies (see 4.0 gpa debacle), seems like it may be some form of eating disorder or anorexia. That is what I would be worried about if someone close to me started acting this way.

Sorry to pop your bubble, but I happen to get good grades because I find the courses easy. Not because I'd be a perfectionist. Some people have good grades simply because they're smart. As for eating disorder, it can't be, because how it works is there are no symptoms of hunger or dehydration.

Originally Posted by Ness36

Oops, I was about to finish my post when I noticed this on the day 2 part 4 of 4 video. It is some kind of star person/alien drawing. I don't feel like watching the whole thing enough to find out exactly what it is, but I had to share it with everyone.

Yeah. That's what it is. Although my memory of it all has greatly changed since. Most Star People don't even remember where they (supposedly) are from or who they (supposedly) were. I (supposedly) remember much clearer now.

[Pup]

A thumbnail bio of Alenara. She has a son. Who knew?

Quote:

I originate from another planet, and am therefor defined as an extraterrestrial. In my past life, I was Alenara Al'Kher'aat. My age was at approximately 340 years when the Council called me in to learn I was to be sent to planet Earth. The Council is like the Embassy of the planet, dealing with the exchange of persons from and to the planet.

I said goodbye to my dearest family, my son Bren'a and my sister Aink'aare. But the entire population of the planet is considered family, we do not limit our love and affection to merely the individuals we spend most time with. I promised to be back after 32 years and additional time prior to incarnation.

I incarnated into human form in the early 1980's. It is with painful memory I say that I left my body of Alenara behind in the spaceship, and came here to Earth in energy form of Alenara. As this, I entered the body of an unborn foetus, thus becoming what is categorised a "Star Person birth-in", the incarnation of an extraterrestrial into human form. I do hope you understand, as this is true.
I wanted to thank you for assisting me in my incarnate work. I came here to work as a scientist and teacher.

[VisionFromFeeling]

Originally Posted by ScottXSI

VisionfromFeeling, I'd like to know if you ever did anything like go to the gym during these periods of not eating?
If not would you be willing to give it a try? 30 mins of cardio and some light weight training 3 days in a row, just to see what would happen.

It seems pretty obvious to me that if all your doing is sitting on your behind meditating and not using up any energy, then of course you can go for longer periods of time without food or drink.

Funny you should ask, because when this works, there seems to be an alternative energy source. You see, you eat starches and sugars to obtain the molecule glucose, blood sugar, which was made by plants. Glucose is made from carbon dioxide and water and within its chemical bonds is entangled sunlight, or energy. So, basically, glucose is a material package of light.

Then happens in the body the whole glucose metabolism Krebs cycle thingy that basically breaks apart the glucose molecule by using oxygen and rearranges all the atoms of glucose into carbon dioxide and water again but - aha! Takes out the sunlight and passes it on in the body. Energy itself is all around, but it is just a matter of absorbing it. Or not absorbing it, and taking it in the form of a chemical pill.

When Breatharianism works, obviously a Breatharian is not using glucose to obtain their energy. Yet they need to have energy for muscle contraction (or, more accurately to relax the muscle, since muscle contraction occurs without the expense of energy but to undo the contraction you add energy, that is why when we die the body runs out of glucose and goes into rigor mortis). With an alternative source of energy, the whole system of using energy works much better.

What happens is I end up in what is called the breathless state. The body all on its own ceases to breathe. Although we are able to regulate our breathing at will, to decide the length of a breath or to hold our breath by choice, breathing is also regulated by the brain. Breathrate is calculated by the body based on the concentrations of oxygen and/or carbon dioxide in the blood. That is why, for instance, when you are in an oxygen deprived place, or when you exercise and are spending more glucose and spending more oxygen, the breath rate automatically increases to regulate the levels of these gases in the blood.

But if you do not use glucose, you do not use oxygen. Which is nice, actually, since oxygen takes part in a lot of free radical reactions, cell damage and ageing that we don't want.

So basically, my breath rate goes down or even ceases. And that is when it is fun to go for a run because I am running all the while holding my breath. Normally when a person is running, they become hot because the energy that came from sunlight and then glucose and then ATP and is then used in the muscle is converted finally into heat, but with Breatharianism it seems that what ever energy is used does not convert into heat, because I won't get hot. Normally, running gives a feeling of muscle strain, but during breatharianism it does not. Normally, heartrate goes up, but during breatharianism, it stays low or calm. It is great fun. But don't try this at home.

[GeeMack]

Originally Posted by VisionFromFeeling

Alright, take it easy. [*bunch of self indulgent babbling snipped*]

Have you completed that apology to all those people you screwed with that lying and reneging about that IIG show? Sure would love to see you demonstrate a shred of human decency for one. But then again, that might just be a bit too much to expect out of a sociopathic...

Originally Posted by VisionFromFeeling

Feel free to apply skepticism and call me a liar and a fraud.

... liar and fraud.

[VisionFromFeeling]

By the way, Jim Carr found out about this by spying on my Facebook in one way or another.

[GeeMack]

Originally Posted by VisionFromFeeling

Funny you should ask, [*a lot of nearly incoherent blathering snipped*]

Interesting that you should continue to pretend to know anything scientific when you've proven yourself a dismal failure when it comes to understanding science.

By the way, have you prepared that announcement yet? You know the one where you admit failure in the IIG freak show and renounce your paranormal medical claims? You know, the one you said you'd make? You know, the one that if you don't make it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt to all your future acquaintances and prospective employers that you are...

Originally Posted by VisionFromFeeling

Feel free to apply skepticism and call me a liar and a fraud.

...a liar and a fraud.

[desertgal]

Originally Posted by VisionFromFeeling

By the way, Jim Carr found out about this by spying on my Facebook in one way or another.

Hee hee...

No. He didn't.