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tfk · 16th January 2010, 02:06 PM

I just received a rather bizarre PM from Childlike Empress.

It includes these statements:

Originally Posted by childlike empress

"You are in no position to argue anything about 9/11. I forgot more about engineering than you will ever know. Back off and find another hobby buddy."

I've scanned over lots of CE's posts. Mostly very brief, somewhat sarcastic remarks. I don't ever remember seeing anything technical or engineering based. So his note caught me by surprise.

I returned a note asking him/her to give me an run-down on his/her extensive background, but have not received any reply.

I just did a scan of about 50 of his/her posts. As expected, lots of chatter about politics, witness statements, and brief empty snark.

And nothing that invokes the slightest engineering.

I've never crossed paths with CE before. Can any of you fill me in on his/her technical background?

Tom

Macgyver1968 · 16th January 2010, 02:06 PM

Bill's trolling....explained.

R.Mackey · 16th January 2010, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by tfk

I've never crossed paths with CE before. Can any of you fill me in on his/her technical background?

None.

Try not to be surprised.

carlitos · 16th January 2010, 02:18 PM

CE and bs and JJ are the extent of my 'ignore' list. Not much content there worth reading.

AZCat · 16th January 2010, 02:19 PM

Had I only known I didn't need to spend all those years in school and on the job to qualify as an expert on engineering, I could have saved a lot of time and money. Alas, I took the long route (which appears to be the road less traveled, at least in the 9/11 conspiracy community).

bill smith · 16th January 2010, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by carlitos

CE and bs and JJ are the extent of my 'ignore' list. Not much content there worth reading.

When a person gives up cigarettes how much has he really given them up if he has to talk about them all the time ? Know where I'm going with this ?

Just smoke the damn fag and dump the monkey on your back.

Childlike Empress · 16th January 2010, 02:33 PM

The guy received an answer. I don't know if it is against the rules to post PMs, but it certainly is bad style. I return the bad style with the PM i sent back:

Quote:

Shut up fool. I've seen through your act and you know it. Go away.

carlitos · 16th January 2010, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by AZCat

Had I only known I didn't need to spend all those years in school and on the job to qualify as an expert on engineering, I could have saved a lot of time and money. Alas, I took the long route (which appears to be the road less traveled, at least in the 9/11 conspiracy community).

The sad thing is that many of them could have indeed completed an engineering degree since they had their big awakening in 2005 or whatever.

tfk · 16th January 2010, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

The guy received an answer. I don't know if it is against the rules to post PMs, but it certainly is bad style. I return the bad style with the PM i sent back:

Hmmmm, you're invoking "bad style"?

How quaint.

Let's leave the personal stuff behind, and stick to the pertinent, 9/11 events.

Why don't you give provide a meaningful, content laden synopsis on the collapse of the WTC7 walls. As you understand the event.

Alternatively, you could attempt to answer the questions that I put to Tony in the original quote that prompted this little tete a tete.

Or would that discussion be part of all that engineering you've forgotten...

Let's see if you've got substance to back up your strut.

Tom

DGM · 16th January 2010, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by bill smith

When a person gives up cigarettes how much has he really given them up if he has to talk about them all the time ? Know where I'm going with this ?

Just smoke the damn fag and dump the monkey on your back.

[small derail] I quit smoking 3 years ago after 35 years (I know I probably smoked longer then you've been alive) and I'm never going back. I don't look at it like what I gave up, it's what I gained, better life.[/derail]

bill smith · 16th January 2010, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by tfk

Hmmmm, you're invoking "bad style"?

How quaint.

Let's leave the personal stuff behind, and stick to the pertinent, 9/11 events.

Why don't you give provide a meaningful, content laden synopsis on the collapse of the WTC7 walls. As you understand the event.

Alternatively, you could attempt to answer the questions that I put to Tony in the original quote that prompted this little tete a tete.

Or would that discussion be part of all that engineering you've forgotten...

Let's see if you've got substance to back up your strut.

Tom

'' Content-laden ' T. It just reads better. I hope to see you use the dash like this more often in the future.

scissorhands · 16th January 2010, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by childlike empress
"You are in no position to argue anything about 9/11. I forgot more about engineering than you will ever know. Back off and find another hobby buddy."

Thats great CE .
No doubt you are going to explain your credentials in engineering.

BasqueArch · 16th January 2010, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by childlike empress
"You are in no position to argue anything about 9/11. I forgot more about engineering than you will ever know. Back off and find another hobby buddy."

Quote:

childlike empress - The guy received an answer. I don't know if it is against the rules to post PMs, but it certainly is bad style. I return the bad style with the PM i sent back:

Quote:
Shut up fool. I've seen through your act and you know it. Go away.

Are you a licensed engineer of any sort. Are you?
It's never " good style" to not tell the truth or threaten someone - PM or not. His "act" is to rationally and thoroughly demolish Truther deceptions and falsehoods.
Your reply didn't enhance your factless posts.
If you're not a licensed engineer you're the one that deserves to go away.
Are you a licensed engineer. Are you?

bill smith · 16th January 2010, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by DGM

[small derail] I quit smoking 3 years ago after 35 years (I know I probably smoked longer then you've been alive) and I'm never going back. I don't look at it like what I gave up, it's what I gained, better life.[/derail]

I gave up a mere three months ago. Easy and hard by turns. I have to confess that I am a bit like like Carlitos in this. I still have the monkey on my back to some extent. So I am going to smoke a single cigarette every saturday night (or at least give myself the right to).

DGM · 16th January 2010, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by bill smith

I gave up a mere three months ago. Easy and hard by turns. I have to confess that I am a bit like like Carlitos in this. I still have the monkey on my back to some extent. So I am going to smoke a single cigarette every saturday night (or at least give myself the right to).

Don't do it! One leads to two, two to three, three to......you know where I'm going.

Get the monkey off your back before you get older and you HAVE to.

Just saying!

bill smith · 16th January 2010, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by bill smith

'' Content-laden ' T. It just reads better. I hope to see you use the dash like this more often in the future.

Talking about this I remember a true story. I kid you not.

Just after 9/11 the BBC ordered a general trawl of their electronic data to look for certain keywords like terrorist', 'bin laden' 'Twin Towers ' nd so on.

Thre was some mementary excitement when the computers spat out stuff about ' bins laden with this or bins laden with that' lol

bill smith · 16th January 2010, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by DGM

Don't do it! One leads to two, two to three, three to......you know where I'm going.

Get the monkey off your back before you get older and you HAVE to.

Just saying!

But he would be a good monkey if I can control him. I would love to be able to have the occasional civilised cigarette.

DGM · 16th January 2010, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by bill smith

But he would be a good monkey if I can control him. I would love to be able to have the occasional civilised cigarette.

He'll never be a good monkey.

aggle-rithm · 16th January 2010, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by bill smith

'Steel to China'. ruse ....explained

Fireball from elevator.....explained

Filipe David's injuries (skin hanging off).....explained.

Yes, these have all been explained. Just not to your liking.

bill smith · 16th January 2010, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by aggle-rithm

Yes, these have all been explained. Just not to your liking.

I hope the mods will indulge me here in producing the entire llst.

If one integrated theory can pull all these things together it must be obvious that it needs looking into...

Concrete reduced to talcum powder dimensions....explained

'Steel to China'. ruse ....explained

Missing core columns....explained

'Meteorites'....explained

huge volume of nanothermite needed ....explained

How the nanothermite was planted unseen....explained

Steel flow from 81st floor WTC2....explained

Antenna falls first WTC1.....explained

Why the pile stayed hot for 100 days...explained

No thermite glare...explained

missing 110 acres of floorpans....explained

missing 220 acres steel floor reinforcing....explained

'Steel to China'. ruse ....explained

Fireball from elevator.....explained

Filipe David's injuries (skin hanging off).....explained.

bill smith · 16th January 2010, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by aggle-rithm

Yes, these have all been explained. Just not to your liking.

Just as a matter f interest what is your best explanation for Fillipe David's injuries ? (Skin hanging off, otherwise functional_)

beachnut · 16th January 2010, 05:37 PM

fire

bill smith · 16th January 2010, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by beachnut

fire

Do you mean burned,Boiled or broiled ?

beachnut · 16th January 2010, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by tfk

...
This is an invitation to one of the AE911t engineers ...

You made an error, engineers don't spread moronic delusions, he is a AE911t delusion supporter, not an AE911t engineer.

I suspect he is a no show, or if he does he will post the same idiotic nonsense bill smith has. I doubt AE member know what evidence is.

aggle-rithm · 16th January 2010, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by bill smith

Just as a matter f interest what is your best explanation for Fillipe David's injuries ? (Skin hanging off, otherwise functional_)

We know there was fire in his vicinity, so the best explanation, clearly, is that he was burned.

Any hypothesis that requires something we don't KNOW was present (such as explosives) is a weaker explanation.

bill smith · 17th January 2010, 02:14 AM

Originally Posted by aggle-rithm

We know there was fire in his vicinity, so the best explanation, clearly, is that he was burned.

Any hypothesis that requires something we don't KNOW was present (such as explosives) is a weaker explanation.

It sounds to me like his skin experienced a sudden general application of searing heat without flames. There is no mention of his hair or clothes being burned as far as I am aware.

bill smith · 17th January 2010, 02:40 PM

So any sign of Derek then ?

aggle-rithm · 18th January 2010, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by bill smith

It sounds to me like his skin experienced a sudden general application of searing heat without flames. There is no mention of his hair or clothes being burned as far as I am aware.

Oh, brother.

bill smith · 18th January 2010, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by aggle-rithm

Oh, brother.

True though

tfk · 18th January 2010, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by bill smith

... There is no mention of his hair or clothes being burned as far as I am aware.

"... as far as [you] are aware ..."

You've shown that to be a rather insignificant distance.

Childlike Empress · 18th January 2010, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by tfk

I just received a rather bizarre PM from Childlike Empress.

It includes these statements:

I thought about your stunt here, Tom. It's actually quite hilarious.

First, he left out the first sentence of my PM: "I didn't question your degree, i questioned your authority."

It was an answer to the initial PM he sent me. That PM contained his alleged degree, University and year, followed by the sentence "I'd appreciate it if you'd keep my personal info confidential."

And then he turns around and publically posts parts of my PM.

What a trustworthy guy.

Did you try to trick me into publishing your alleged personal information, Tom?

Epic fail.

DGM · 18th January 2010, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by bill smith

True though

Bill, You watch too many movies. Burns are not a "blast effect".

tfk · 18th January 2010, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

I thought about your stunt here, Tom. It's actually quite hilarious.

First, he left out the first sentence of my PM: "I didn't question your degree, i questioned your authority."

It was an answer to the initial PM he sent me. That PM contained his alleged degree, University and year, followed by the sentence "I'd appreciate it if you'd keep my personal info confidential."

And then he turns around and publically posts parts of my PM.

What a trustworthy guy.

Did you try to trick me into publishing your alleged personal information, Tom?

Epic fail.

There is no "stunt", CE.

You are welcome to publish anything that you want. I requested (and still request) that you keep the personal info that I revealed to you confidential.

For the specific reason that I've already endured my "twoofer stalker", complete with attempts to track me to my home town & threats to kill me with a sniper rifle. Because that person, who believes in the Illuminati/Jew run world, chemtrails, HAARP generated earthquakes, CIA developed AIDS, and end of the world in 2012, felt that I was evil for believing that heat can weaken steel. I'd rather not go thru that again.

The first sentence of your post was not the "bizarre" part of your post. That sentence was reasonable.

You'll note that in my post, I stated (with exactitude) that your post "included" the statements listed. I did NOT say that it was your complete post.

Once again, you are welcome to review my posts. Easily done. Do a search on posts by me that contain the word "the". You'll get just about every one of them.

You'll find that ~80% of them address some engineering or aviation point. (My two principle interests.) About 10% address some non-engineering issue. And the last 10% bash bill smith for being a clueless idiot & troll. (You'll find this last group to be old posts, before I achieved a blissful, BS-free existence thru the prophylactic application of the "Ignore" feature.)

Now, please clarify something for me. You claim to have "forgotten more engineering than I'll ever know". This statement intentionally implies some level of engineering experience/expertise. I asked you to relate exactly what engineering experience you possess. I haven't heard a response as yet.

Feel free to elaborate on your engineering background.

Feel free to also elaborate on the engineering aspects of my original claim that sparked your reply to me. (My claim that "the fall of the unsupported WTC7 walls could be understood with 'sophomore level engineering'.") After I hear a cogent technical counter-claim from you, I'll be happy to keep my replies strictly related to the engineering aspects of that issue.

Tom

tfk · 18th January 2010, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

First, he left out the first sentence of my PM: "I didn't question your degree, i questioned your authority."

BTW, this is an internet opinion site.

No "authority" is required to post here.

They even let bill smith & you post.

Tom

aggle-rithm · 18th January 2010, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by tfk

"... as far as [you] are aware ..."

You've shown that to be a rather insignificant distance.

From Bill's description (something that can burn flesh while leaving hair and clothing intact), it sounds like he suspects the aliens from Spielberg's "War of the Worlds". There is certainly no terrestrial "blast of heat" that behaves in this way.

Childlike Empress · 18th January 2010, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by tfk

Feel free to also elaborate on the engineering aspects of my original claim that sparked your reply to me. (My claim that "the fall of the unsupported WTC7 walls could be understood with 'sophomore level engineering'.")

Wrong again. Your claim was "The collapse mechanisms & dynamics are freshman level engineering."

I'm not interested in any further discussion with you.

tfk · 18th January 2010, 12:16 PM

CE,

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

Wrong again. Your claim was "The collapse mechanisms & dynamics are freshman level engineering."

Thanks for demonstrating exactly your commitment to clarification & dialog. Versus "Childlike" quote mining.

(Good choice in pseudonym.)

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

I'm not interested in any further discussion with you.

Yeah, how surprising is that.

Tom

bill smith · 18th January 2010, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by tfk

"... as far as [you] are aware ..."

You've shown that to be a rather insignificant distance.

Talking of a ' rather insignificant distance ' was that heavy jets that you flew or micro/ultralights ? You know the ones ? You wind up an elastic band I think.

tsig · 18th January 2010, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by bill smith

I hope the mods will indulge me here in producing the entire llst.

If one integrated theory can pull all these things together it must be obvious that it needs looking into...

Concrete reduced to talcum powder dimensions....explained

'Steel to China'. ruse ....explained

Missing core columns....explained

'Meteorites'....explained

huge volume of nanothermite needed ....explained

How the nanothermite was planted unseen....explained

Steel flow from 81st floor WTC2....explained

Antenna falls first WTC1.....explained

Why the pile stayed hot for 100 days...explained

No thermite glare...explained

missing 110 acres of floorpans....explained

missing 220 acres steel floor reinforcing....explained

'Steel to China'. ruse ....explained

Fireball from elevator.....explained

Filipe David's injuries (skin hanging off).....explained.

Nothing explained.

tsig · 18th January 2010, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by bill smith

Do you mean burned,Boiled or broiled ?

We're talking about people not barbecue.

16th January 2010, 02:06 PM	#201
tfk Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,978	I just received a rather bizarre PM from Childlike Empress. It includes these statements: Originally Posted by childlike empress "You are in no position to argue anything about 9/11. I forgot more about engineering than you will ever know. Back off and find another hobby buddy." I've scanned over lots of CE's posts. Mostly very brief, somewhat sarcastic remarks. I don't ever remember seeing anything technical or engineering based. So his note caught me by surprise. I returned a note asking him/her to give me an run-down on his/her extensive background, but have not received any reply. I just did a scan of about 50 of his/her posts. As expected, lots of chatter about politics, witness statements, and brief empty snark. And nothing that invokes the slightest engineering. I've never crossed paths with CE before. Can any of you fill me in on his/her technical background? Tom
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16th January 2010, 02:06 PM	#202
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16th January 2010, 02:16 PM	#203
R.Mackey Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The armpit of L.A. Posts: 7,857	Originally Posted by tfk I've never crossed paths with CE before. Can any of you fill me in on his/her technical background? None. Try not to be surprised.
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16th January 2010, 02:33 PM	#206
bill smith Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8,408	Originally Posted by carlitos CE and bs and JJ are the extent of my 'ignore' list. Not much content there worth reading. When a person gives up cigarettes how much has he really given them up if he has to talk about them all the time ? Know where I'm going with this ? Just smoke the damn fag and dump the monkey on your back.
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16th January 2010, 02:33 PM	#207
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 8,056	The guy received an answer. I don't know if it is against the rules to post PMs, but it certainly is bad style. I return the bad style with the PM i sent back: Quote: Shut up fool. I've seen through your act and you know it. Go away.
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16th January 2010, 02:18 PM	#204
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 11,628	CE and bs and JJ are the extent of my 'ignore' list. Not much content there worth reading.

16th January 2010, 02:19 PM	#205
AZCat Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: where the grass is greener. Posts: 1,618	Had I only known I didn't need to spend all those years in school and on the job to qualify as an expert on engineering, I could have saved a lot of time and money. Alas, I took the long route (which appears to be the road less traveled, at least in the 9/11 conspiracy community).

16th January 2010, 02:48 PM	#208
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 11,628	Originally Posted by AZCat Had I only known I didn't need to spend all those years in school and on the job to qualify as an expert on engineering, I could have saved a lot of time and money. Alas, I took the long route (which appears to be the road less traveled, at least in the 9/11 conspiracy community). The sad thing is that many of them could have indeed completed an engineering degree since they had their big awakening in 2005 or whatever.

16th January 2010, 03:35 PM	#209
tfk Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,978	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress The guy received an answer. I don't know if it is against the rules to post PMs, but it certainly is bad style. I return the bad style with the PM i sent back: Hmmmm, you're invoking "bad style"? How quaint. Let's leave the personal stuff behind, and stick to the pertinent, 9/11 events. Why don't you give provide a meaningful, content laden synopsis on the collapse of the WTC7 walls. As you understand the event. Alternatively, you could attempt to answer the questions that I put to Tony in the original quote that prompted this little tete a tete. Or would that discussion be part of all that engineering you've forgotten... Let's see if you've got substance to back up your strut. Tom
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16th January 2010, 03:42 PM	#210
DGM #4 Join Date: May 2007 Location: West of Northshore MA Posts: 14,535	Originally Posted by bill smith When a person gives up cigarettes how much has he really given them up if he has to talk about them all the time ? Know where I'm going with this ? Just smoke the damn fag and dump the monkey on your back. [small derail] I quit smoking 3 years ago after 35 years (I know I probably smoked longer then you've been alive) and I'm never going back. I don't look at it like what I gave up, it's what I gained, better life.[/derail]
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16th January 2010, 03:46 PM	#211
bill smith Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8,408	Originally Posted by tfk Hmmmm, you're invoking "bad style"? How quaint. Let's leave the personal stuff behind, and stick to the pertinent, 9/11 events. Why don't you give provide a meaningful, content laden synopsis on the collapse of the WTC7 walls. As you understand the event. Alternatively, you could attempt to answer the questions that I put to Tony in the original quote that prompted this little tete a tete. Or would that discussion be part of all that engineering you've forgotten... Let's see if you've got substance to back up your strut. Tom '' Content-laden ' T. It just reads better. I hope to see you use the dash like this more often in the future.
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16th January 2010, 03:50 PM	#212
scissorhands Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,538	Quote: Originally Posted by childlike empress "You are in no position to argue anything about 9/11. I forgot more about engineering than you will ever know. Back off and find another hobby buddy." Thats great CE . No doubt you are going to explain your credentials in engineering.

16th January 2010, 03:51 PM	#213
BasqueArch Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Whispering Glades, Fredonia Posts: 1,388	Quote: Originally Posted by childlike empress "You are in no position to argue anything about 9/11. I forgot more about engineering than you will ever know. Back off and find another hobby buddy." Quote: childlike empress - The guy received an answer. I don't know if it is against the rules to post PMs, but it certainly is bad style. I return the bad style with the PM i sent back: Quote: Shut up fool. I've seen through your act and you know it. Go away. Are you a licensed engineer of any sort. Are you? It's never " good style" to not tell the truth or threaten someone - PM or not. His "act" is to rationally and thoroughly demolish Truther deceptions and falsehoods. Your reply didn't enhance your factless posts. If you're not a licensed engineer you're the one that deserves to go away. Are you a licensed engineer. Are you?
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16th January 2010, 03:53 PM	#214
bill smith Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8,408	Originally Posted by DGM [small derail] I quit smoking 3 years ago after 35 years (I know I probably smoked longer then you've been alive) and I'm never going back. I don't look at it like what I gave up, it's what I gained, better life.[/derail] I gave up a mere three months ago. Easy and hard by turns. I have to confess that I am a bit like like Carlitos in this. I still have the monkey on my back to some extent. So I am going to smoke a single cigarette every saturday night (or at least give myself the right to).
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16th January 2010, 03:58 PM	#215
DGM #4 Join Date: May 2007 Location: West of Northshore MA Posts: 14,535	Originally Posted by bill smith I gave up a mere three months ago. Easy and hard by turns. I have to confess that I am a bit like like Carlitos in this. I still have the monkey on my back to some extent. So I am going to smoke a single cigarette every saturday night (or at least give myself the right to). Don't do it! One leads to two, two to three, three to......you know where I'm going. Get the monkey off your back before you get older and you HAVE to. Just saying!
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16th January 2010, 04:01 PM	#216
bill smith Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8,408	Originally Posted by bill smith '' Content-laden ' T. It just reads better. I hope to see you use the dash like this more often in the future. Talking about this I remember a true story. I kid you not. Just after 9/11 the BBC ordered a general trawl of their electronic data to look for certain keywords like terrorist', 'bin laden' 'Twin Towers ' nd so on. Thre was some mementary excitement when the computers spat out stuff about ' bins laden with this or bins laden with that' lol
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16th January 2010, 04:22 PM	#217
bill smith Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8,408	Originally Posted by DGM Don't do it! One leads to two, two to three, three to......you know where I'm going. Get the monkey off your back before you get older and you HAVE to. Just saying! But he would be a good monkey if I can control him. I would love to be able to have the occasional civilised cigarette.
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16th January 2010, 04:31 PM	#218
DGM #4 Join Date: May 2007 Location: West of Northshore MA Posts: 14,535	Originally Posted by bill smith But he would be a good monkey if I can control him. I would love to be able to have the occasional civilised cigarette. He'll never be a good monkey.
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16th January 2010, 04:35 PM	#219
aggle-rithm Ardent Formulist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 14,301	Originally Posted by bill smith 'Steel to China'. ruse ....explained Fireball from elevator.....explained Filipe David's injuries (skin hanging off).....explained. Yes, these have all been explained. Just not to your liking.
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16th January 2010, 05:08 PM	#220
bill smith Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8,408	Originally Posted by aggle-rithm Yes, these have all been explained. Just not to your liking. I hope the mods will indulge me here in producing the entire llst. If one integrated theory can pull all these things together it must be obvious that it needs looking into... Concrete reduced to talcum powder dimensions....explained 'Steel to China'. ruse ....explained Missing core columns....explained 'Meteorites'....explained huge volume of nanothermite needed ....explained How the nanothermite was planted unseen....explained Steel flow from 81st floor WTC2....explained Antenna falls first WTC1.....explained Why the pile stayed hot for 100 days...explained No thermite glare...explained missing 110 acres of floorpans....explained missing 220 acres steel floor reinforcing....explained 'Steel to China'. ruse ....explained Fireball from elevator.....explained Filipe David's injuries (skin hanging off).....explained.
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16th January 2010, 05:18 PM	#221
bill smith Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8,408	Originally Posted by aggle-rithm Yes, these have all been explained. Just not to your liking. Just as a matter f interest what is your best explanation for Fillipe David's injuries ? (Skin hanging off, otherwise functional_)
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16th January 2010, 05:37 PM	#222
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16th January 2010, 05:40 PM	#223
bill smith Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8,408	Originally Posted by beachnut fire Do you mean burned,Boiled or broiled ?
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16th January 2010, 06:18 PM	#224
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 19,953	Originally Posted by tfk ... This is an invitation to one of the AE911t engineers ... You made an error, engineers don't spread moronic delusions, he is a AE911t delusion supporter, not an AE911t engineer. I suspect he is a no show, or if he does he will post the same idiotic nonsense bill smith has. I doubt AE member know what evidence is.

16th January 2010, 06:59 PM	#225
aggle-rithm Ardent Formulist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 14,301	Originally Posted by bill smith Just as a matter f interest what is your best explanation for Fillipe David's injuries ? (Skin hanging off, otherwise functional_) We know there was fire in his vicinity, so the best explanation, clearly, is that he was burned. Any hypothesis that requires something we don't KNOW was present (such as explosives) is a weaker explanation.
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17th January 2010, 02:14 AM	#226
bill smith Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8,408	Originally Posted by aggle-rithm We know there was fire in his vicinity, so the best explanation, clearly, is that he was burned. Any hypothesis that requires something we don't KNOW was present (such as explosives) is a weaker explanation. It sounds to me like his skin experienced a sudden general application of searing heat without flames. There is no mention of his hair or clothes being burned as far as I am aware.
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17th January 2010, 02:40 PM	#227
bill smith Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8,408	So any sign of Derek then ?
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18th January 2010, 05:05 AM	#228
aggle-rithm Ardent Formulist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 14,301	Originally Posted by bill smith It sounds to me like his skin experienced a sudden general application of searing heat without flames. There is no mention of his hair or clothes being burned as far as I am aware. Oh, brother.
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18th January 2010, 06:48 AM	#229
bill smith Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8,408	Originally Posted by aggle-rithm Oh, brother. True though
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18th January 2010, 07:44 AM	#230
tfk Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,978	Originally Posted by bill smith ... There is no mention of his hair or clothes being burned as far as I am aware. "... as far as [you] are aware ..." You've shown that to be a rather insignificant distance.
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18th January 2010, 08:00 AM	#231
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 8,056	Originally Posted by tfk I just received a rather bizarre PM from Childlike Empress. It includes these statements: I thought about your stunt here, Tom. It's actually quite hilarious. First, he left out the first sentence of my PM: "I didn't question your degree, i questioned your authority." It was an answer to the initial PM he sent me. That PM contained his alleged degree, University and year, followed by the sentence "I'd appreciate it if you'd keep my personal info confidential." And then he turns around and publically posts parts of my PM. What a trustworthy guy. Did you try to trick me into publishing your alleged personal information, Tom? Epic fail.
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18th January 2010, 08:08 AM	#232
DGM #4 Join Date: May 2007 Location: West of Northshore MA Posts: 14,535	Originally Posted by bill smith True though Bill, You watch too many movies. Burns are not a "blast effect".
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18th January 2010, 09:24 AM	#233
tfk Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,978	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress I thought about your stunt here, Tom. It's actually quite hilarious. First, he left out the first sentence of my PM: "I didn't question your degree, i questioned your authority." It was an answer to the initial PM he sent me. That PM contained his alleged degree, University and year, followed by the sentence "I'd appreciate it if you'd keep my personal info confidential." And then he turns around and publically posts parts of my PM. What a trustworthy guy. Did you try to trick me into publishing your alleged personal information, Tom? Epic fail. There is no "stunt", CE. You are welcome to publish anything that you want. I requested (and still request) that you keep the personal info that I revealed to you confidential. For the specific reason that I've already endured my "twoofer stalker", complete with attempts to track me to my home town & threats to kill me with a sniper rifle. Because that person, who believes in the Illuminati/Jew run world, chemtrails, HAARP generated earthquakes, CIA developed AIDS, and end of the world in 2012, felt that I was evil for believing that heat can weaken steel. I'd rather not go thru that again. The first sentence of your post was not the "bizarre" part of your post. That sentence was reasonable. You'll note that in my post, I stated (with exactitude) that your post "included" the statements listed. I did NOT say that it was your complete post. Once again, you are welcome to review my posts. Easily done. Do a search on posts by me that contain the word "the". You'll get just about every one of them. You'll find that ~80% of them address some engineering or aviation point. (My two principle interests.) About 10% address some non-engineering issue. And the last 10% bash bill smith for being a clueless idiot & troll. (You'll find this last group to be old posts, before I achieved a blissful, BS-free existence thru the prophylactic application of the "Ignore" feature.) Now, please clarify something for me. You claim to have "forgotten more engineering than I'll ever know". This statement intentionally implies some level of engineering experience/expertise. I asked you to relate exactly what engineering experience you possess. I haven't heard a response as yet. Feel free to elaborate on your engineering background. Feel free to also elaborate on the engineering aspects of my original claim that sparked your reply to me. (My claim that "the fall of the unsupported WTC7 walls could be understood with 'sophomore level engineering'.") After I hear a cogent technical counter-claim from you, I'll be happy to keep my replies strictly related to the engineering aspects of that issue. Tom
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18th January 2010, 09:30 AM	#234
tfk Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,978	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress First, he left out the first sentence of my PM: "I didn't question your degree, i questioned your authority." BTW, this is an internet opinion site. No "authority" is required to post here. They even let bill smith & you post. Tom
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18th January 2010, 09:44 AM	#235
aggle-rithm Ardent Formulist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 14,301	Originally Posted by tfk "... as far as [you] are aware ..." You've shown that to be a rather insignificant distance. From Bill's description (something that can burn flesh while leaving hair and clothing intact), it sounds like he suspects the aliens from Spielberg's "War of the Worlds". There is certainly no terrestrial "blast of heat" that behaves in this way.
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