General election gets underway

Undesired Walrus · 4th January 2010, 11:10 AM

Viewed on my bloody road!

Seen any?

funk de fino · 4th January 2010, 01:38 PM

Considering the party, a very ironic poster to kick off with.

Skeptic · 4th January 2010, 01:47 PM

"I'll cut the deficit, not the NHS" means "I'll raise taxes", doesn't it?

Uzzy · 4th January 2010, 02:02 PM

Anyone post election will have to raise taxes. Of course, saying that is electoral suicide. So they don't.

Tsukasa Buddha · 4th January 2010, 02:04 PM

You poor souls still get killed by death panels under socialized medicine?

daenku32 · 4th January 2010, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Tsukasa Buddha

You poor souls still get killed by death panels under socialized medicine?

I imagine that the reason why English food is so bad is because IT'S MADE OF PEOPLE!!!

dudalb · 4th January 2010, 03:11 PM

Nah, it because they boil everything.

Undesired Walrus · 4th January 2010, 03:21 PM

I especially like the 'Private property' sign in the foreground. Very fitting.

This is probably the earliest campaigning ever in UK history.

Francesca R · 5th January 2010, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic

"I'll cut the deficit, not the NHS" means "I'll raise taxes", doesn't it?

Taxes are scheduled to rise anyway as per budgetary legislation implemented by the labour government. If the tories don't reverse this then taxes go up but they can claim not to be doing it themselves. They have already shelved earlier "aspirations" to cut (inheritance) tax though. The statement is more likely taken to mean cutting entitlements, public sector pay/benefits and other programs.

Having said that, merely stopping the signifcant year by year increases in the NHS budget (which have been the norm for about 10 years) will probably feel like a "cut"

Beerina · 5th January 2010, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Francesca R

Taxes are scheduled to rise anyway as per budgetary legislation implemented by the labour government. If the tories don't reverse this then taxes go up but they can claim not to be doing it themselves.

The US Congress once passed a law that their salaries would continue to go up unless they actively voted to disallow it for that year. That way everybody, when challenged like they always are near elections, could throw up their hands and say, "I didn't do it!"

Francesca R · 5th January 2010, 09:03 AM

British MPs have long set their own salaries too, within guidelines. Then for a few years they appeared to be deliberately taking "below market" pay rises or even freezes to "set an example". That all blew up last year when it became obvious that they used a freeloading expenses system to top up their income--which is now to be reformed too.

Of course, if you make being a representative politician too non-lucrative, then you tend to get moneyed-up power-lovers as the only ones able to apply for the job.

Undesired Walrus · 6th January 2010, 05:00 AM

Big news. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...tatement-brown

Francesca R · 6th January 2010, 06:18 AM

Reminiscent of John Major's "bastards"

funk de fino · 6th January 2010, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by Undesired Walrus

Big news. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...tatement-brown

Hoon is a particularly unlikeable chappie.

richardm · 6th January 2010, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Undesired Walrus

Big news. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...tatement-brown

Doesn't look like it's catching on much so far though does it? Just the usual suspects supporting it at the moment.

Undesired Walrus · 6th January 2010, 10:32 AM

It seems every few months there's an attempt on Brown's political life. I suppose Hoon isn't a 'Who the hell is that?' like Purnell, but still.

4th January 2010, 11:10 AM	#1
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4th January 2010, 01:38 PM	#2
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4th January 2010, 02:02 PM	#4
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4th January 2010, 02:04 PM	#5
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4th January 2010, 03:21 PM	#8
Undesired Walrus Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London Posts: 10,893	I especially like the 'Private property' sign in the foreground. Very fitting. This is probably the earliest campaigning ever in UK history.
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4th January 2010, 01:47 PM	#3
Skeptic Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Behind the chessboard Posts: 18,361	"I'll cut the deficit, not the NHS" means "I'll raise taxes", doesn't it?

4th January 2010, 02:05 PM	#6
daenku32 Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,982	Originally Posted by Tsukasa Buddha You poor souls still get killed by death panels under socialized medicine? I imagine that the reason why English food is so bad is because IT'S MADE OF PEOPLE!!!

4th January 2010, 03:11 PM	#7
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 22,848	Nah, it because they boil everything.

5th January 2010, 06:26 AM	#9
Francesca R Girl Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London EC1 Posts: 11,826	Originally Posted by Skeptic "I'll cut the deficit, not the NHS" means "I'll raise taxes", doesn't it? Taxes are scheduled to rise anyway as per budgetary legislation implemented by the labour government. If the tories don't reverse this then taxes go up but they can claim not to be doing it themselves. They have already shelved earlier "aspirations" to cut (inheritance) tax though. The statement is more likely taken to mean cutting entitlements, public sector pay/benefits and other programs. Having said that, merely stopping the signifcant year by year increases in the NHS budget (which have been the norm for about 10 years) will probably feel like a "cut"
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5th January 2010, 08:54 AM	#10
Beerina Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: A floating island above the clouds Posts: 23,835	Originally Posted by Francesca R Taxes are scheduled to rise anyway as per budgetary legislation implemented by the labour government. If the tories don't reverse this then taxes go up but they can claim not to be doing it themselves. The US Congress once passed a law that their salaries would continue to go up unless they actively voted to disallow it for that year. That way everybody, when challenged like they always are near elections, could throw up their hands and say, "I didn't do it!"
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5th January 2010, 09:03 AM	#11
Francesca R Girl Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London EC1 Posts: 11,826	British MPs have long set their own salaries too, within guidelines. Then for a few years they appeared to be deliberately taking "below market" pay rises or even freezes to "set an example". That all blew up last year when it became obvious that they used a freeloading expenses system to top up their income--which is now to be reformed too. Of course, if you make being a representative politician too non-lucrative, then you tend to get moneyed-up power-lovers as the only ones able to apply for the job.

6th January 2010, 05:00 AM	#12
Undesired Walrus Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London Posts: 10,893	Big news. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...tatement-brown
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6th January 2010, 06:18 AM	#13
Francesca R Girl Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London EC1 Posts: 11,826	Reminiscent of John Major's "bastards"

6th January 2010, 06:48 AM	#14
funk de fino Dreaming of unicorns Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Alba Posts: 10,795	Originally Posted by Undesired Walrus Big news. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...tatement-brown Hoon is a particularly unlikeable chappie.
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6th January 2010, 10:15 AM	#15
richardm Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 9,270	Originally Posted by Undesired Walrus Big news. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...tatement-brown Doesn't look like it's catching on much so far though does it? Just the usual suspects supporting it at the moment.
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6th January 2010, 10:32 AM	#16
Undesired Walrus Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London Posts: 10,893	It seems every few months there's an attempt on Brown's political life. I suppose Hoon isn't a 'Who the hell is that?' like Purnell, but still.
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