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Hipster alien
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: not measurable
Posts: 16,798
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Kevin Trudeau is now selling "Your Wish Is Your Command" a knockoff of "The Secret"
It is available for $300 at the Natural Cures store. I saw a glimpse of the infomercial last night. That guy just keeps coming back.
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Is the JREF message board training wheels for people who hope to one day troll other message boards? It is not that hard to get us to believe you. We are not the major leagues or even the minor leagues. We are Pee-Wee baseball. If you love striking out 10-year-olds, then you'll love trolling our board. |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Trevose, PA
Posts: 3,407
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At first glance this set looks like just another 'go out and get it' motivational series, but looking into it, you use 'conscious vibrational programming' to get what you want. Rubbish.
"If you have ever been exposed to "The Secret", "Think and Grow Rich" or are familiar with "The Law of Attraction", then Your Wish is Your Command: How Anyone Can Make Millions will teach you how to make the knowledge work for YOU!" That means if you were duped by these other books, then please give us your money too! But hey, $300 is nothing for the invite into a secret society. I actually got letters in the mail for a similar society. What do they expect to accomplish? |
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"más divertido"
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,494
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Ugh. It's like even he knows it's crap - look at the word in quotation marks. And "they" are???
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Philosopher
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 8,027
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I wish I would have thought of that.
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Don't argue with me. Don't you know who I think I am? |
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Salem, Oregon
Posts: 15,533
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Who is "Kaz?" Read about her at www.StopKaz.com. Curious about Sylvia Browne? Read about her at www.StopSylvia.com. Ever wonder "What's the Harm?" with psychics, alternative medicine, etc? |
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 293
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The concept of using one's mind to get what they want in life is actually pretty simple. One utilizes past experiences, tales related to them of others' past experiences, and sound reasoning to determine what course of action needs to be taken in order for one to get what s/he wants. Of course, this course of action actually needs to be taken by the individual, and good perseverance and will-power are needed. And this doesn't stop random chance and circumstance from interfering with one's plans, nor does it stop one from making mistakes. The real world can be a bitch.
Of course, the kind of person who'd spend $300 on a book claiming all one's wishes can come true just by thinking about it probably isn't the kind of person who can use their mind effectively to get what they want. The kind of person who can fool people into buying such a book, however, probably is (assuming loads of easy cash is what he wants from life). |
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 22,792
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Guess Trudeau thought the phony Cancer cures were becoming too risky,and needed a new way to fleece the suckers.
What gets to me is that the guy has such sucess, and his cons are not really that clever. More skilled practioners of that art are probably amazed at his sucess. |
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Philosopher
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 5,743
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I used to have a boss ( well head of where i worked actually) that ended up reading the secret and the related garbage. And i will say that he drove what was a thriving segment of a failing call center , into an abysmal pit of poor management.
It was painfully obvious that the mans focus was " try and it will happen" any idea he had was enforced, and regardless of progress , or feasibility , followed. For example, our job was from time to time given, for lack of a better term a report card. Now averege score for any segment would be about a 75-80. To put that in perspective, that is the guy you would be happy getting on the other end of the line. Now at one point this man decided that if one got anything less than 100% twice, they would be fired. ( this was nearly impossible, as coming back earlier than expected from a hold for example, was a 5 percent deduction.) Now i wont go into to many details, but this started to heavily effect things like attendance, customer satistfaction ( if one has to be perfect, one is going to sound like a robot. ) among many other things. Now instead of changing this, we were subjected to meetings every 2 weeks about how easy it is to achieve and how under no circumstances this was going to change. Needless to say the segment failed. Trying and succeeding are not the same thing. If so a one armed boxer wouldn't be at a disadvantage. |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,786
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It's amazing how many of these "paranormal" icons seem to merge together. There always seem to be theories about how they link together in some way. I'm sure someone has a very good explanation as to how Bigfoot killed JFK to help cover Roswell.-Mark Mekes This isn't rocket surgery.-Bill Nye |
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One Damn Dirty Ape
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: 5430 feet above you
Posts: 796
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I like how the list price is $1,000, but that you can now buy it for the low, low price of $297. You save $703! What a bargain!
And the Amazon.com style comments are priceless. Here is my favorite:
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Signature line? I don't need no stinking signature line! |
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Scholar
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 87
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Only 300 dollars, what a bargain!
![]() I always think back to a Donald Duck comic I read when I was a child. Donald buys a book from an advertisement that promises to make him rich, and it says "to become wealthy, write your own book like this!" |
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 22,792
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Springy Goddess
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Winnipeg, Canada
Posts: 973
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In defense of Think and Grow Rich, discarding all the MasterMind Committee of Famous Rich Dead Guys woo, and the simplistic "Reprogram *your* unconscious mind!" pop psychology, Napoleon Hill did actually say something that's worthwhile:
"If the thing you wish to do is right, and you believe in it, go ahead and do it!" All the rest is commentary. |
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Thinker
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 211
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Your Wish Is My Demand
Back in Nov. 2008 Trudeau received a $37 million judgment against him for deceptive infomercials how does this waste of flesh keep bouncing back?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_T...al_proceedings |
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Master Poster
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: N/W England
Posts: 2,111
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If just one of these books actually worked there would be no need for a single other! Everyone would have what they want!
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Belief is the wound that knowledge heals. Ursula K. LeGuin's A dog is for life, not just for xmas! |
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Banned
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Still Looking
Posts: 1,244
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Philosopher
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Vancouver BC Canada
Posts: 5,966
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A new development.
Title: [Kevin Trudeau held in criminal contempt, facing jail time] Subtitle: Federal judge in Chicago acts after being flooded with emails prompted by the author-infomercial king Excerpt
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"Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness." - Terry Pratchett |
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 22,792
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Intellectual Gladiator
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the midst of a vast, beautiful & uncaring universe
Posts: 14,175
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No doubt the "natural cures" true believers will start screaming about how "The Conspiracy" is trying to shut up Trudeau, and they'll make a martyr out of him. Which is fine by me, as long as he's a martyr rotting in jail.
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New Blood
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Vancouver B.C. CA
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Kevin Trudeau is now selling "Your Wish Is Your Command" a knockoff of "The Secret"
Good day I was wondering if anyone new the were someone could purchase both of the "Your Wish Is Your Command" AND "The Secret" for a discounted price? This review is what sold me. Mr. Trudeau is a smart man obviously has been doing something right. I quote.. "You do not have to like Mr. Trudeau or what he says, although his Natural Cures They Don’t Want You To Know About remains the best selling health book of all time, so lots of people do like what he says, or some of it. The question we asked in this groundbreaking show was whether he was, or was not, a member of a globalist secret society or working to further their agendas. He said “NO!” and, based on our technological assessment of his words and meanings, we believe him. Google search the first sentence and read the whole story, hope this helps, T |
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA...USA
Posts: 14,482
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New Blood
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Vancouver B.C. CA
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I have purchased and listen to the whole 14 cd series "Your Wish Is Your Command"
The point is he has saved many lives and keeps on doing so. He has continuously spent his hard earned money to fight for the first amendment rights, not only for himself but for all of us. (if you have listened to his radio show) The testimonials are overwhelming to the amount of positive feed back anywhere you read on the internet. I have purchased and listen to the whole 14 cd series "Your Wish Is Your Command" and the information I gathered was outstanding in my view and he explained a lot of life long questions I have been asking myself. He leaves it up to us, which is the way it should, us making our own choices for what we believe in, not being guided around like a pack of lost sheep. All that HAS to be said is this: He is a self made Billionaire, Who do you listen to? hope this helps, T
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA...USA
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Please provide evidence of that.
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New Blood
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Vancouver B.C. CA
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All his companies have collectively done billions in sales, with many satisfied clients. As far as his personal net worth, the CD series hints at this. Buy the CD and find out that and a lot more! It has changed my life in ways I was unaware of.
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Titanium Puprhero
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Mayor of your front lawn.
Posts: 12,296
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My wish is that Kevin Trudeau be hit in the groin with a flail repeatedly.
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA...USA
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If man came from dust, why is there still dust? |
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA...USA
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If man came from dust, why is there still dust? |
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Official Nemesis
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Trying to decide whether to set defenses against an army, or against mole rats.
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I wrote this for another thread that dealt with "The Secret" and "The Law of Attraction". Kevin Trudeau is a miserable excuse of a living organism. I would rather buy 1800 pounds of Crisco, fry the contents of my septic tank, and eat that with spaghetti sauce than buy any of his fraudulent spewage. |
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Yvette: "Blasty! Blasty! Blasty!" Some person: "Why did you shoot that?" Yvette: "Blasty! Blasty! Blasty!" - Tragic Monkey |
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA...USA
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If man came from dust, why is there still dust? |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 4,758
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I look forward to Trudeau's next infomercial. He always gets hot babes with low-cut dresses and mounds of cleavage to interview him.
That's a sure sign that he's legit! |
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Is there a God? Find the answer at The Official God FAQ. |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,661
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I was flipping through the channels yesterday and stumbled across one of his infomercials. He was talking to four women, two of whom were extremely well endowed and spilling out of very low-cut dresses. Nothing like a little T&A to get your point across. The other two were fairly modestly dressed. I suppose he didn't want to make it too obvious.
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"Nature abhors a moron." -- H. L. Mencken |
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Hipster alien
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: not measurable
Posts: 16,798
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You had to listen to 14 CDs to learn this fact? You're a bit of a slow learner, aren't you?
In any case, Mr. Shill, or is it Ms. Shill, Kevin Trudeau is an important figure in free speech cases. The issue being should free speech be allowed when it will likely directly result in the premature deaths of tens to hundreds of thousands people. We live in a era where early testing and treatment can save the lives of the vast , vast majority of cancer victims. K. Trudeau telling people to not get tested by the medical establishment and to not seek the help of the medical establishment is not saving lives - it is destroying lives. Lastly, let me say "billionaire?" LOL wut? |
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Is the JREF message board training wheels for people who hope to one day troll other message boards? It is not that hard to get us to believe you. We are not the major leagues or even the minor leagues. We are Pee-Wee baseball. If you love striking out 10-year-olds, then you'll love trolling our board. |
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA...USA
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Here is the Forbes billionaire list as of March 10th:
http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/10/wor...2010_land.html For our convenience, I sorted by name and went to the T's: http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/10/...Proper_37.html Trudeau should be between "Kenny Troutt" and "Donald Trump"... Nope, not there. |
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,315
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I don't think the words "epic fail" even begin to describe this.
As a guy who worked for too long in internet advertising and website development, let me give you a serious word of advice: NEVER look into the testimonials of websites. They are so fake it's not even funny. |
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA...USA
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If man came from dust, why is there still dust? |
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Crone of War
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 6,873
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Can someone waste this subhuman piece of rhinoceros feces* already? Pretty please?
* Apologies to rhinoceros fecal matter |
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,315
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I was talking about a general advice in life. Of course testimonials aren't scnientific evidence.
They never have to prove that the testimonials are real and not made up by themselves as well as even if they are real, there is no telling how many bad complaints the company got. So in reality, they serve no value to the consumer. People shouldn't even waste their time bothering reading testimonials from the company itself. |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Trevose, PA
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Dude, you are going to make millions, what do you care if you have to spend $500 or a thousand to do it. Don't be so greedy.
Wow, you did all of that in less than half an hour? Incredible. So, since you have the set, why are you looking to buy it at a discounted rate? |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,030
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Because he is a shill for Kevin Trudeau most likely. I have a website dedicated to exposing scams and canadaseopro's comments are typical:
You talk about how Scam-Leader's character is Jesus-like, how his intentions are so pure and how he is just a nice guy who wants to help you get the money/life you deserve. Of course, sometimes we get people who were honestly duped. |
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