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Old 12th February 2010, 01:10 PM   #1
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Palin's Popularity Dropping Even Among Conservatives

A recent Washington Post-ABC News poll shows Sarah Palin's positives are nosediving even among republicans. The general feeling is she is just not qualified for national office.

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Although Palin is a tea party favorite, her potential as a presidential hopeful takes a severe hit in the survey. Fifty-five percent of Americans have unfavorable views of her, while the percentage holding favorable views has dipped to 37, a new low in Post-ABC polling.

There is a growing sense that the former Alaska governor is not qualified to serve as president, with more than seven in 10 Americans now saying she is unqualified, up from 60 percent in a November survey. Even among Republicans, a majority now say Palin lacks the qualifications necessary for the White House.

Palin has lost ground among conservative Republicans, who would be crucial to her hopes if she seeks the party's presidential nomination in 2012. Forty-five percent of conservatives now consider her as qualified for the presidency, down sharply from 66 percent who said so last fall.

Among all Republicans polled, 37 percent now hold a "strongly favorable" opinion of Palin, about half the level recorded when she burst onto the national stage in 2008 as Sen. John McCain's running mate.

Among Democrats and independents, assessments of Palin also have eroded. Six percent of Democrats now consider her qualified for the presidency, a drop from 22 percent in November; the percentage of independents who think she is qualified fell to 29 percent from 37 percent
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Old 12th February 2010, 01:37 PM   #2
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Looks like the democrats better come up with a game plan for dealing with a real candidate.

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Old 12th February 2010, 01:40 PM   #3
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I don't think anyone ever really believed Sarah Palin would be a serious candidate. Lets be honest the only reason she was ever a candidate for VP was so she could say all the controversial crap that plays to the base so that when people called her on it the campaign could claim sexism.
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Old 12th February 2010, 01:41 PM   #4
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A recent Washington Post-ABC News poll shows Sarah Palin's positives are nosediving even among republicans. The general feeling is she is just not qualified for national office.
That might well be true, as many conservatives say. I myself think her achievements might be a good start... but first, please, a completed tenure as governor, or a few of them, or a term as a senator.
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Old 12th February 2010, 01:46 PM   #5
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How can this be, when she clearly has the Republican platform in the palm of her hand?
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Old 12th February 2010, 02:01 PM   #6
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That might well be true, as many conservatives say. I myself think her achievements might be a good start... but first, please, a completed tenure as governor, or a few of them, or a term as a senator.
And a better knowledge of foreign affairs, and stop using the "Just Plain Folks" routine when asked about foreign affairs.
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Old 12th February 2010, 02:21 PM   #7
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Looks like the democrats better come up with a game plan for dealing with a real candidate.
yeah? like who?

either way, Sarah Palin is a quitter. And a moron.

what would she do when things got crazy as President? resign?

how about the Republicans stop worrying about the 2012 election, and get to solving America's problems.
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Old 12th February 2010, 03:54 PM   #8
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In the end, you need a candidate who can attract the middle of the road voters in order to win....as much as the hard liners on both sides refuse to beleive this and Palin is damaged goods to the Moderate voters.
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Old 12th February 2010, 04:29 PM   #9
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In the end, you need a candidate who can attract the middle of the road voters in order to win....as much as the hard liners on both sides refuse to beleive this and Palin is damaged goods to the Moderate voters.
Dingdingding! If there's one thing I've learned paying close attention to the last 11 presidential elections, it's that the US is a 40-20-40 nation, where 40% of the population will vote for the Republican even if he's a red-headed dwarf albino, and 40% of the population will vote for the Democrat even if he's an inbred alcoholic wife-beater. It's that 20% in the middle that determines things.

That's not to say that Palin has no chance; but she'd have to have a terrific tailwind. Let's face it, ten years ago if I'd said the president today would be a black man with only 4 years experience as a US senator, everybody would have laughed.
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Old 12th February 2010, 04:32 PM   #10
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yeah? like who?

either way, Sarah Palin is a quitter. And a moron.

what would she do when things got crazy as President? resign?

how about the Republicans stop worrying about the 2012 election, and get to solving America's problems.
You're really taking this thing hard, Parky.
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Old 12th February 2010, 04:34 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Sword_Of_Truth View Post
You're really taking this thing hard, Parky.

naaa...I just write with feeling. I'm a drama king.

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Old 12th February 2010, 04:38 PM   #12
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Old 12th February 2010, 04:39 PM   #13
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she's a cutey.
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Old 12th February 2010, 04:42 PM   #14
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Pay attention, Parky...at 1:30!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy2_p...eature=related
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Old 12th February 2010, 04:56 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
And a better knowledge of foreign affairs, and stop using the "Just Plain Folks" routine when asked about foreign affairs.
Fixed it for you.
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Old 12th February 2010, 11:59 PM   #16
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The best fun Palin has provided is the fun of watching intelligent members here force themselves to keep options open in case they have to believe she is the best person for potus at some time in the future..


guys, relax. It will never happen.
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Old 13th February 2010, 04:46 PM   #17
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It will never happen.


Dr. Emmett Brown: Then tell me, "Future Boy", who's President in the United States in 1985?
Marty McFly: Ronald Reagan.
Dr. Emmett Brown: Ronald Reagan? The actor?
[chuckles in disbelief]
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Dr. Emmett Brown: Then tell me, "Future Boy", who's President in the United States in 1985?
Marty McFly: Ronald Reagan.
Dr. Emmett Brown: Ronald Reagan? The actor?
[chuckles in disbelief]
Hell, imagine being in 1985 California and telling them who their governor was going to be. I could see them sending me to the asylum over than one.
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Old 13th February 2010, 04:54 PM   #19
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Hell, imagine being in 1985 California and telling them who their governor was going to be. I could see them sending me to the asylum over than one.
Don't forget the Governator! Cali loves its actors.
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That might well be true, as many conservatives say. I myself think her achievements might be a good start... but first, please, a completed tenure as governor, or a few of them, or a term as a senator.
This is the thing that will really kill her in the GOP primaries or, if she makes it, the 2012 general election. The "quitter" meme is going to be a major deal-killer for a lot of people.
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Dingdingding! If there's one thing I've learned paying close attention to the last 11 presidential elections, it's that the US is a 40-20-40 nation, where 40% of the population will vote for the Republican even if he's a red-headed dwarf albino, and 40% of the population will vote for the Democrat even if he's an inbred alcoholic wife-beater. It's that 20% in the middle that determines things.
Bingo, on the nosey, Brainster. The more extreme folks from both parties would be wise to remember this fact.

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That's not to say that Palin has no chance; but she'd have to have a terrific tailwind. Let's face it, ten years ago if I'd said the president today would be a black man with only 4 years experience as a US senator, everybody would have laughed.
Agreed. I think if the GOP wanted to have any real chance of beating Obama in 2012, they'd have to go with someone other than Palin. The only trouble is that she's the one on the Republican side getting all the attention & press, so by default she's like the public face of the GOP. Kind of a sticky situation, if you ask me, but then it's a long way until November 2012.

Btw, if you'd told me three years ago that we'd have a black president I'd have said you were crazy.
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Looks like the democrats better come up with a game plan for dealing with a real candidate.
Yup, if they rest on their laurels and count on the GOP having a crappy candidate in 2012, they're asking for trouble. Hubris has toppled more than one politician... I think the most recent example was in... Massachusetts, perhaps?
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Hypothetical scenario: Palin loses in the GOP primaries, and decides to run for POTUS as the "Tea Party" independent candidate. Plausible?

After seeing how she's been received by the TP-movement, I think it's entirely plausible.
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Hypothetical scenario: Palin loses in the GOP primaries, and decides to run for POTUS as the "Tea Party" independent candidate. Plausible?
now THAT....would be my dream come true!!!

in fact, ANY Tea Party candidate would be beautiful.

Orly Taitz would be even better.
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Not likely. Remember Nader essentially getting Bush into office?
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This is the thing that will really kill her in the GOP primaries or, if she makes it, the 2012 general election. The "quitter" meme is going to be a major deal-killer for a lot of people.
Agreed. Once again: Sarah Palin would make a bad president, probably, since she's simply not qualified enough for the job. This is no insult to Palin -- 99% of people don't have the qualification for the job. But "Sarah Palin would be a bad president" is one thing; "huh huh, stupid hick bitch!!!" face-twisting foam-spitting criticism quite another.

I'm not talking about merely making fun of her -- any candidate that can't take that surely shouldn't run (and obviously, whatever you say about her, she can take being made fun of). I'm talking about professors claiming that Palin is "deceiving" people into thinking she is a woman, or people on this very forum admitting they'd like to violently murder her (h'm -- there's no such thing as a non-violent murder, now is there?).
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Originally Posted by MattusMaximus View Post
Hypothetical scenario: Palin loses in the GOP primaries, and decides to run for POTUS as the "Tea Party" independent candidate. Plausible?

After seeing how she's been received by the TP-movement, I think it's entirely plausible.
Oh well all the Dog Whistling, not bad at it either, one way to go as a "Nu Revolutionary" but will have to stage a coup on all those hangers or better yet arrest the entire legislature or both.
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I wonder if the country is ready for a Mormon, moose killing ticket? Even by 2012, Sarah isn't going to be ready to be president, but she'll be ready for the VP position. Romney is ready now. If the TP backs Palin in the primaries, then Romney may be forced to align with her. The TP won't select its own candidate IMHO (Perot and Nader pretty much assure that).
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