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Old 20th February 2010, 03:02 PM   #1
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Ron Paul (R) for President 2012

CPAC has voted:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...st.php?ref=fpa

Haley Barbour: 1%

Mitch Daniels: 2%

Newt Gingrich: 4%

Mike Huckabee: 4%

Sarah Palin: 7%

Ron Paul: 31%

Tim Pawlenty: 6%

Mike Pence: 5%

Mitt Romney: 22%

Rick Santorum: 2%
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Paul/Palin 2012?

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Ron Jeremy would do better.
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Look at the straw poll participant numbers. The majority of the participants were college students, aged 18-25. It's a fair bet that a slew of Paultards attended and skewed the results, not unlike what they were doing for the online polls during the campaigning.
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Old 20th February 2010, 04:44 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by GreNME View Post
Look at the straw poll participant numbers. The majority of the participants were college students, aged 18-25. It's a fair bet that a slew of Paultards attended and skewed the results, not unlike what they were doing for the online polls during the campaigning.
It was co-sponsored by the John Birch Society, I'm surprised Paul didn't poll even higher.
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Old 20th February 2010, 05:23 PM   #7
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Paul/Palin 2012?

The Dream Team!

of the Democratic Party.
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Old 20th February 2010, 05:27 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by WildCat View Post
It was co-sponsored by the John Birch Society, I'm surprised Paul didn't poll even higher.
Actually, I'd have to see a breakdown of religious affiliation to be sure, but the Romney numbers lead me to believe that there may have been a disproportionate number of Mo's taking part in it as well. The LDS church is at least as skilled as the Paultards at skewing numbers.
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This is extremely bad news for the Republican party. It means they are very deeply divided about the direction of their party. Paul is very much a party outsider, but beloved by Teabaggers. It furthers the possibility of a split prior to the next presidential election, which would of course, hand it to the Democrats.
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Old 20th February 2010, 06:25 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Tricky View Post
This is extremely bad news for the Republican party. It means they are very deeply divided about the direction of their party. Paul is very much a party outsider, but beloved by Teabaggers. It furthers the possibility of a split prior to the next presidential election, which would of course, hand it to the Democrats.
oh...if the Tea Party phenomenon could indeed produce sizeable support for an independent Ron Paul candidacy in 2012, the election is ours!!!!

Paul/Palin 2012!!!!!
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Old 20th February 2010, 06:41 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Tricky View Post
This is extremely bad news for the Republican party. It means they are very deeply divided about the direction of their party. Paul is very much a party outsider, but beloved by Teabaggers. It furthers the possibility of a split prior to the next presidential election, which would of course, hand it to the Democrats.
Not exactly. Even ignoring the probable skewing I mention in previous posts, Paul still did not get the votes of confidence from nearly 70% of those taking part in the straw poll. People taking part predictably vote for their favorite, but that doesn't naturally translate to each of those favorites running for president in 2012. On the surface Ron Paul seemed to have this sort of grass-roots momentum in the previous primaries, but his outsider status left him marginalized in real voting. This poll really doesn't stray very far from that.
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Old 20th February 2010, 07:59 PM   #12
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If Ron Paul ran for president, he'd be assassinated, because there are a lot of powerful interests (which would include govenrment officials) who would be badly affected by him.
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If Ron Paul ran for president, he'd be assassinated


um..he did run for President.
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Old 21st February 2010, 04:34 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by Tricky View Post
This is extremely bad news for the Republican party. It means they are very deeply divided about the direction of their party. Paul is very much a party outsider, but beloved by Teabaggers. It furthers the possibility of a split prior to the next presidential election, which would of course, hand it to the Democrats.
There will be no split. From Paul to Buchannan they will this time rally behind Romney.
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Old 21st February 2010, 04:39 AM   #15
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If Ron Paul ran for president, he'd be assassinated, because there are a lot of powerful interests (which would include govenrment officials) who would be badly affected by him.
Huey Long and George Wallace are prime examples.
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Old 21st February 2010, 07:03 AM   #16
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Ron Paul couldn't even win the damn New Hampshire GOP primary. if that doesn't tell you something about his chances to become President of the USA, nothing will.
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Old 21st February 2010, 07:45 AM   #17
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I recall listening to Paul for an hour on the Diane Rehm show during the primary season for the previous election. Not impressive. The word I used at the time was "lunatic".
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Consider the fact that according to some, McCain was already too old to become president in 2008, and that Paul is older than McCain. You would have a sitting president of 81 in 2016. Perhaps someone should start a ThingsYoungerThanRonPaul blog... It shouldn't be too hard to find topics. "Things Younger Than Ron Paul" equals "Nearly Everything".
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Old 21st February 2010, 08:16 AM   #19
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Obama/Palin/Paul?

This is starting to shape up like another Bush/Clinton/Perot threeway.

Sorry for the imagery
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O/P/P? How can I `splain it? I'll take you frame by frame it.
To have you all jump and shout and sayin' it.
O is for bama, P is for Palin shootin' rifles.
The last P, well, is mostly a trifle.
It's sort of like another way to say Ron Paul's a Libertarian,
fiscal conservative with a dose of the church of Randian.
Though on occasion hangin' with the GOP-ers.
He's mostly considered a whackjob by his peers.
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This is starting to shape up like another Bush/Clinton/Perot threeway.
An Obama, Palin, Paul, sandwich?

that's hot.

you down with OPP? yeah you know me.

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Ron Paul will do great in online polls and caucuses and the like, where his committed followers can stack the deck. Once the primaries actually start, he'll quickly drop by the wayside.
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Ron Paul will do great in online polls and caucuses and the like, where his committed followers can stack the deck. Once the primaries actually start, he'll quickly drop by the wayside.
he will drop below the ankles, just like in the 2008 primaries.
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Ron Paul will do great in online polls and caucuses and the like, where his committed followers can stack the deck. Once the primaries actually start, he'll quickly drop by the wayside.

In other words, a repeat of 2008.
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The RonPaul did so well is a strong indictment of the choices available from the conservative/Rep side. With a strong opponent Obama could easily be a one-termer, but I don't see this strong opponent on that list. It's a bit early to call, but the anti-Obama force will most likely splinter.

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It's a bit early to call, but the anti-Obama force will most likely splinter.
Paul and Palin could increase the strength of the Tea-Baggers. which would pull more votes from moderate GOPers. (are there any left???)

and, this time, Paul may run Independent.

this would insure a 2nd Obama term.
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Paul/Palin 2012?

The world would be so lucky as to have them run together...

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I'd vote for him, for the lulz.
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Paul and Palin could increase the strength of the Tea-Baggers. which would pull more votes from moderate GOPers. (are there any left???)

and, this time, Paul may run Independent.

this would insure a 2nd Obama term.
Paul ain't running as an Independent. He's a jerk, but he's not an idiot. He knows that his fickle fifteen minutes was 2008, and if he wanted to kick the GOP in the teeth, all he had to do was take his millions and his minions and run as a Libertarian (and if you don't think that his good ol' boys down in Auburn could've delivered the L nod, you don't know the Libertarians). The GOP was bound to lose anyway, and he could've claimed to have don it.

But rather than solidify his nutbar wing, what'd he do? He suckered all the rubes into sending in millions upon millions for him to run for the Oval Office, and then packed it away and used it to secure his Congressional seat. And how did his greasy fan boyz react?

"Excellent Sir! Please Sir May I Have Another?"

They're lining up to donate their blood to him, again.
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I'd vote for him, for the lulz.
Probably the best comedy team on the tube since The Smothers Comedy Brothers Hour went off the air.
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If Ron Paul runs, can I look forward to a resurgence in the "North American Union" conspiracy theory? It does seem to have fallen out of favour of late.
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Ron Paul attracted my attention in 2008 for his foreign policy. He was the only person in either party who was actually asking whether spending a significant portion of the budget on maintaining a massive, full-time, global military presence was actually a good idea. No one else even went near the issue, which was surprising considering the role the War of Terror played in the campaigns.

Shame the rest of his positions came from Ron Raul.
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Here was what I thought as I read down the list...

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Newt Gingrich
Hardly surprising. He's been working hard for his party for a long time.

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Mike Huckabee
While I strongly disagree with his politics, he seems like a friendly and intelligent man. Kind of over the top with the religion but I say he belongs on the list.

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Wait, what? Surely they are getting desperate. Oh well, at least it couldn't get any worse.

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Oh God no! That's horrible!

OK, OK. NOW we've hit bottom.

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I was wrong! I was horribly, horribly wrong!
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Ron Paul attracted my attention in 2008 for his foreign policy. He was the only person in either party who was actually asking whether spending a significant portion of the budget on maintaining a massive, full-time, global military presence was actually a good idea. No one else even went near the issue, which was surprising considering the role the War of Terror played in the campaigns.

Shame the rest of his positions came from Ron Raul.
My biggest complaint about Paul is his complete failure to understand constitutional law. Call me picky, but I think that's an important talent for the President to have.
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My biggest complaint about Paul is his complete failure to understand constitutional law. Call me picky, but I think that's an important talent for the President to have.
How about his complete failure to grasp even the most humble basics of economics?
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How about his complete failure to grasp even the most humble basics of economics?
Unfortuantely, Ron Paul and I share that quality so I don't feel comfortable judging him in that way.

Hey...at least I admit it.
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oh...if the Tea Party phenomenon could indeed produce sizeable support for an independent Ron Paul candidacy in 2012, the election is ours!!!!

Paul/Palin 2012!!!!!
Alex Jones was interviewing that Tea Bag lady running for governor of Texas and said Paul will be elected president in 2012 if the election isn't stolen, a statement which leave him a lot of wiggle room whatever the outcome.

It reminded me of those two mocked up headlines in Citizen Kane.

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This is extremely bad news for the Republican party. It means they are very deeply divided about the direction of their party. Paul is very much a party outsider, but beloved by Teabaggers. It furthers the possibility of a split prior to the next presidential election, which would of course, hand it to the Democrats.
As hard a time as the Dems are having now, this entire Tea Party business is going to be a royal pain in the ass for the GOP for quite some time to come. Unfortunately for the GOP, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't: go too close to the middle and lose the TPers/conservative base and lose the election; go too far to the right and lose the middle-ground independents and lose the election.

If this keeps up, about the only way the GOP is going to have a real shot at 2012 is if Obama starts to eat live children on TV.
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Ron Paul will do great in online polls and caucuses and the like, where his committed followers can stack the deck. Once the primaries actually start, he'll quickly drop by the wayside.
I think you're right, but I don't think it will happen so quickly. I think he'll go in it for the long haul, and - depending upon the Tea Party fervor - he could seriously consider running as an Indy.

And he'd get a lot of support for that.
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My biggest complaint about Paul is his complete failure to understand constitutional law. Call me picky, but I think that's an important talent for the President to have.
Just a bit, yeah.

I'm still scratching my head about how he claims to be some stalwart of the Constitution, yet at the same time advocate firing Federal judges perceived to be "activist." I know people like the Amendments and everything, but why can't the Articles get the same kind of love?
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