Free Energy in the USA

thaiboxerken · 27th February 2003, 06:30 AM

Now here is a project that is being funded by local governments.

www.genesisworldenergy.org

It's amazing the crap that people can get the gov't to pay for.

MRC_Hans · 27th February 2003, 06:49 AM

Oi, this is a load of crap! Snips from their "technical" description:

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The amount of water used to generate hydrogen and oxygen gases from this process are negligible, usually only a few ounces of water a day,

Hey, not only can they reverse entrophy, but they can get a lot of material out of a little material! Cool!

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The residential model is capable of producing up to 30 total kilowatts of combined gas and electrical power per day (a typical home uses between five to six kilowatts), and the commercial model can generate up to 100 total kilowatts of energy.

Uhhm, hate to tell you this folks, but kilowatts is not a measure of energy.

Or what about this (in the business section):

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Each Edison Device is designed to operate only within the borders of the sovereign nation in which it was originally assembled and sold. Moving the Edison Device beyond its intended area of licensed operation will render it immediately and permanently useless.

That technology alone should sell for a fortune in other kinds of business!

Hans

thaiboxerken · 27th February 2003, 07:12 AM

"That technology alone should sell for a fortune in other kinds of business!"

Yes, and the gov't would surely want to implement this particular tech to the military techs.

28th February 2003, 04:12 PM

The RIAA and MPAA would kill for that technology.

28th February 2003, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by rwald
The RIAA and MPAA would kill for that technology.

I'm sure they already have...

28th February 2003, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
Now here is a project that is being funded by local governments.

www.genesisworldenergy.org

It's amazing the crap that people can get the gov't to pay for.

anytime someone says free energy,hold on to your fng walet!
no adress,no phone number,no names/pics of anyone(400 visionary scientists)

involved in this project,not even email,can you say SCAM!

Ladewig · 28th February 2003, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rwald
The RIAA and MPAA would kill for that technology.
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I'm sure they already have...

Those are strong words for someone living in Ashcroft's America.

Ladewig · 28th February 2003, 09:14 PM

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However, previously it had not been possible to break water down into its molecular state in practical terms from an energy consumption standpoint. The process consumed more energy than could be extracted from the resulting hydrogen and oxygen gases. As an example, 1000 watts of energy would be consumed to break water down to its molecular state and only 900 watts of usable gas energy would be yielded from the process.

[snip]

In order to make Genesis viable, the team needed to develop the ability to breakdown any type of water into its basic molecular state, using a small amount of space and consuming far less energy than could be realized as a result of the process.

Isn't water always in its basic molecular state? Are the 400 anonymous visionaries trying to describe the process of breaking down water into its two atomic components?

Even if investors had absolutely no understanding of science at all, why would they send money to a technology company that refuses to patent any part of this world-changing device?

scotth · 1st March 2003, 07:25 AM

I didn't see where local gov't was putting money into this, thaiboxerken. Did you get this in the news or is it burried in the site somewhere and I missed it?

If it is in the news, please post a link if possible.

Here is the domain registrant info:

Law Offices of Charles Shaw, P.C.
Charles Shaw
170 Washington Avenue
Dumont, NJ 07628
US
Phone: 201-501-0330
Fox: 201-501-0299
Email: charlesshaw_pc@yahoo.com

Guess that is about as good as you're gonna get for contact info.

garys_2k · 1st March 2003, 10:11 AM

Water is "ash," already the combustion product of hydrogen and oxygen. We may as well try to convert carbon dioxide to carbon and oxygen to get "free fuel," it's the same thing.

Solitaire · 3rd March 2003, 02:59 PM

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27th February 2003, 06:30 AM	#1
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 20,952	Free Energy in the USA Now here is a project that is being funded by local governments. www.genesisworldenergy.org It's amazing the crap that people can get the gov't to pay for.
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27th February 2003, 06:49 AM	#2
MRC_Hans Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Whithin earshot of the North Sea Posts: 16,600	Oi, this is a load of crap! Snips from their "technical" description: Quote: The amount of water used to generate hydrogen and oxygen gases from this process are negligible, usually only a few ounces of water a day, Hey, not only can they reverse entrophy, but they can get a lot of material out of a little material! Cool! Quote: The residential model is capable of producing up to 30 total kilowatts of combined gas and electrical power per day (a typical home uses between five to six kilowatts), and the commercial model can generate up to 100 total kilowatts of energy. Uhhm, hate to tell you this folks, but kilowatts is not a measure of energy. Or what about this (in the business section): Quote: Each Edison Device is designed to operate only within the borders of the sovereign nation in which it was originally assembled and sold. Moving the Edison Device beyond its intended area of licensed operation will render it immediately and permanently useless. That technology alone should sell for a fortune in other kinds of business! Hans
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27th February 2003, 07:12 AM	#3
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 20,952	"That technology alone should sell for a fortune in other kinds of business!" Yes, and the gov't would surely want to implement this particular tech to the military techs.
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28th February 2003, 04:12 PM	#4
rwald Guest Posts: n/a	The RIAA and MPAA would kill for that technology.
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28th February 2003, 04:18 PM	#5
Plutarck Guest Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally posted by rwald The RIAA and MPAA would kill for that technology. I'm sure they already have...
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28th February 2003, 07:53 PM	#6
JANman Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Free Energy in the USA Quote: Originally posted by thaiboxerken Now here is a project that is being funded by local governments. www.genesisworldenergy.org It's amazing the crap that people can get the gov't to pay for. anytime someone says free energy,hold on to your fng walet! no adress,no phone number,no names/pics of anyone(400 visionary scientists) involved in this project,not even email,can you say SCAM!
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28th February 2003, 08:41 PM	#7
Ladewig Hipster alien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: not measurable Posts: 16,794	Quote: Originally posted by rwald The RIAA and MPAA would kill for that technology. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I'm sure they already have... Those are strong words for someone living in Ashcroft's America.

28th February 2003, 09:14 PM	#8
Ladewig Hipster alien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: not measurable Posts: 16,794	Quote: However, previously it had not been possible to break water down into its molecular state in practical terms from an energy consumption standpoint. The process consumed more energy than could be extracted from the resulting hydrogen and oxygen gases. As an example, 1000 watts of energy would be consumed to break water down to its molecular state and only 900 watts of usable gas energy would be yielded from the process. [snip] In order to make Genesis viable, the team needed to develop the ability to breakdown any type of water into its basic molecular state, using a small amount of space and consuming far less energy than could be realized as a result of the process. Isn't water always in its basic molecular state? Are the 400 anonymous visionaries trying to describe the process of breaking down water into its two atomic components? Even if investors had absolutely no understanding of science at all, why would they send money to a technology company that refuses to patent any part of this world-changing device?

1st March 2003, 07:25 AM	#9
scotth Atheist Political Candidate Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: DFW, TX area Posts: 1,801	I didn't see where local gov't was putting money into this, thaiboxerken. Did you get this in the news or is it burried in the site somewhere and I missed it? If it is in the news, please post a link if possible. Here is the domain registrant info: Law Offices of Charles Shaw, P.C. Charles Shaw 170 Washington Avenue Dumont, NJ 07628 US Phone: 201-501-0330 Fox: 201-501-0299 Email: charlesshaw_pc@yahoo.com Guess that is about as good as you're gonna get for contact info.

1st March 2003, 10:11 AM	#10
garys_2k Muse Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 756	Water is "ash," already the combustion product of hydrogen and oxygen. We may as well try to convert carbon dioxide to carbon and oxygen to get "free fuel," it's the same thing.
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