What Happens After I Die?

CriticalSock · 26th February 2010, 08:58 AM

Has this been posted before? I was emailed it today by a work colleague:

"I found this great website that clearly explains what happens after you die. It's complete in its understanding of the afterlife, yet put in terms so simple that even children can easily understand it. Enjoy."

http://whathappensafteridie.com/

steve s · 26th February 2010, 09:07 AM

Pure_Argent · 26th February 2010, 09:13 AM

Brilliant.

TieDyedGuy · 26th February 2010, 09:35 AM

I like the comment in source:

Quote:

Tricky · 26th February 2010, 09:42 AM

Quote:

What Happens After I Die?

Scrolling is disabled?

Cainkane1 · 26th February 2010, 09:42 AM

You get to haunt old buildings and eat batteries.

EventHorizon · 26th February 2010, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by TieDyedGuy

I like the comment in source:

Good find, I never would have thought to check the source of such a simple web page.

rorylee · 26th February 2010, 09:47 AM

lol! i guess you'll find out when you die hey =]

Piscivore · 26th February 2010, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by rorylee

lol! i guess you'll find out when you die hey =]

Or... not.

CriticalSock · 26th February 2010, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Tricky

Scrolling is disabled?

Everything's disabled!

Fnord · 26th February 2010, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by CriticalSock

What Happens After I Die?

Every living thing that did not die with you continues to live, and whatever else that did not cease to exist with your death continues to exist. Your mind-processes cease to run. Your body de-animates and its decay accelerates.

And then it rains.

Lord Muck oGentry · 26th February 2010, 10:43 AM

Lots. But none of it happens to you.

Darat · 26th February 2010, 10:48 AM

I get your computer.

Uncle Otto · 26th February 2010, 11:10 AM

You get a ride to the cemetery in a strange looking car.

dogguy · 26th February 2010, 11:43 AM

Someone else gets all your stuff.

Trent Wray · 26th February 2010, 11:48 AM

You become neither a Mac, nor a PC ...

kuroyume0161 · 26th February 2010, 11:57 AM

Not even black...

Steve001 · 26th February 2010, 12:00 PM

I don't get it.

Upchurch · 26th February 2010, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by EventHorizon

Good find, I never would have thought to check the source of such a simple web page.

It might be the troubleshooter in me, but I immediately checked the source to see if that was what it was supposed to do.

Of course, I immediately ignored any comments.

readme.txt · 26th February 2010, 12:17 PM

This site is racist.

sgtbaker · 26th February 2010, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Fnord

Every living thing that did not die with you continues to live, and whatever else that did not cease to exist with your death continues to exist. Your mind-processes cease to run. Your body de-animates and its decay accelerates.

And then it rains.

Oh rain? That's just ruins the whole day

Trent Wray · 26th February 2010, 12:26 PM

When you die, the concept of you becoming the same as everything else, and thus nothing, begins infinitely.

Is this statement true? And if not, why isn't it?

Any replies would be appreciated ..

calebprime · 26th February 2010, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by kuroyume0161

Not even black...

That's what I was going to say.

The nothing nothings, so to speak.

tsig · 26th February 2010, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by CriticalSock

Has this been posted before? I was emailed it today by a work colleague:

"I found this great website that clearly explains what happens after you die. It's complete in its understanding of the afterlife, yet put in terms so simple that even children can easily understand it. Enjoy."

http://whathappensafteridie.com/

Here's one version:

" Don't you ever laugh as the hearse goes by,
For you may be the next to die.
They wrap you up in a big white sheet
From your head down to your feet.
They put you in a big black box
And cover you up with dirt and rocks.
All goes well for about a week,
Then your coffin begins to leak.
The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out,
The worms play pinochle on your snout.
They eat your eyes, they eat your nose,
They eat the jelly between your toes.
A big green worm with rolling eyes
Crawls in your stomach and out your eyes.
Your stomach turns a slimy green,
And pus pours out like whipping cream.
You spread it on a slice of bread,
And that's what you eat when you are dead."

http://www.visualwriter.com/Priest/Novel/hearse.htm

rorylee · 26th February 2010, 02:53 PM

Seriously though, If you think we go through all this Joy & Pain with everything else in between and just cease to exist, that's pretty boring isn't it? Not much reason to why you were born, to death, to the air we breathe, to the reason why there is so much space out there, everything..

Kinda like 'Dam if i only get xx/x amount of years then nothing why bother, in the end nothing really matters'.

Piscivore · 26th February 2010, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by rorylee

Seriously though, If you think we go through all this Joy & Pain with everything else in between and just cease to exist, that's pretty boring isn't it?

Why do you feel the universe owes you an eternity, let alone an exciting one?

Quote:

Not much reason to why you were born, to death, to the air we breathe, to the reason why there is so much space out there, everything..

If by "reason" you mean some "higher" purpose than what we ourselves make, no.

Quote:

Kinda like 'Dam if i only get xx/x amount of years then nothing why bother, in the end nothing really matters'.

It matters to you, and the people around you. Why do you feel your existence must be eternal to have any signifigance?

Kind of a sad world-view you've got there, if you have to pretend to a whole passel of cosmic signifigance to feel yourself to be of any value.

Trent Wray · 26th February 2010, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by rorylee

Seriously though, If you think we go through all this Joy & Pain with everything else in between and just cease to exist, that's pretty boring isn't it? Not much reason to why you were born, to death, to the air we breathe, to the reason why there is so much space out there, everything..

Kinda like 'Dam if i only get xx/x amount of years then nothing why bother, in the end nothing really matters'.

This is where the non-believer will tell you that they "do not need to believe in sky fairies and the afterlife to enjoy life and find meaning in it."

I think you are assuming that everyone must feel like you, and have to find a justification for being alive in order to go through the pain and find meaning in the pleasure everyday. This is definitely a philosophical quandry I think many people go through ... but I can tell you that at one point, I thought exactly this same way. So the belief in an afterlife and god "having a purpose" for me became a reality which I lived by and used.

But eventually, I saw I was hiding behind those things as an excuse to not experience the reality that was here and just take it at face value. Life is pleasure and pain and lots of other stuff. Finding meaning in it is rewarding and wonderful. But HAVING to have a meaning behind it can drive one to living on crutches when you can probably walk just fine without them. You can accept responsibility for the pain you cause and forgive others for the pain they inflict on you without having to justify them or yourself. It's just life. God doesn't have to arbritrate everything. Also, you can enjoy pleasure and love others and even sacrifice yourself for others and causes without feeling guilty or afraid and having to reasons to feel those things or not feel them. Regardless of what you believe, you will die one day as will all of us. That will be the culmination of the point. What happens after that doesn't have to determine how you live now.

And here is a thought ... if there is a god, would he eventually want you to make your own reality or always be enslaved or looking to a version of his or someone elses?

Fnord · 26th February 2010, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by readme.txt

This site is racist.

Evidence, Please?

If you're referring to the earlier "Not even black" comment, the poster was referring to what the dead person senses. "Not even black" means that the dead person perceives nothing -- not even the "blackness" of nothing.

Ron_Tomkins · 26th February 2010, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by CriticalSock

What Happens After I Die?

You remain dead.

Piscivore · 26th February 2010, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by trentwray

This is where the non-believer will tell you that they "do not need to believe in sky fairies and the afterlife to enjoy life and find meaning in it."

I think you are assuming that everyone must feel like you, and have to find a justification for being alive in order to go through the pain and find meaning in the pleasure everyday. This is definitely a philosophical quandry I think many people go through ... but I can tell you that at one point, I thought exactly this same way. So the belief in an afterlife and god "having a purpose" for me became a reality which I lived by and used.

But eventually, I saw I was hiding behind those things as an excuse to not experience the reality that was here and just take it at face value. Life is pleasure and pain and lots of other stuff. Finding meaning in it is rewarding and wonderful. But HAVING to have a meaning behind it can drive one to living on crutches when you can probably walk just fine without them. You can accept responsibility for the pain you cause and forgive others for the pain they inflict on you without having to justify them or yourself. It's just life. God doesn't have to arbritrate everything. Also, you can enjoy pleasure and love others and even sacrifice yourself for others and causes without feeling guilty or afraid and having to reasons to feel those things or not feel them. Regardless of what you believe, you will die one day as will all of us. That will be the culmination of the point. What happens after that doesn't have to determine how you live now.

And here is a thought ... if there is a god, would he eventually want you to make your own reality or always be enslaved or looking to a version of his or someone elses?

Well said.

cyborg · 26th February 2010, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by rorylee

Not much reason to why you were born, to death, to the air we breathe, to the reason why there is so much space out there, everything..

What kind of reason were you looking for?

Quote:

Kinda like 'Dam if i only get xx/x amount of years then nothing why bother, in the end nothing really matters'.

Why would it matter any more if the years never ended?

Trent Wray · 26th February 2010, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Piscivore

Well said.

Thank you

tsig · 26th February 2010, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by rorylee

Seriously though, If you think we go through all this Joy & Pain with everything else in between and just cease to exist, that's pretty boring isn't it? Not much reason to why you were born, to death, to the air we breathe, to the reason why there is so much space out there, everything..

Kinda like 'Dam if i only get xx/x amount of years then nothing why bother, in the end nothing really matters'.

Why would thinking you have eternity make this moment any more meaningful?

Moping around and kicking rocks griping about how short life is is no way to live a life.

Fnord · 26th February 2010, 03:26 PM

If life had meaning, then there would be a book somewhere describing what that meaning is.

... oh ... yeah ... right ...

So, shall we all go out and smite some Canaanites and steal their land? Who's with me? Who'll bring the beer?

Uncle Otto · 26th February 2010, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by rorylee

Seriously though, If you think we go through all this Joy & Pain with everything else in between and just cease to exist, that's pretty boring isn't it? Not much reason to why you were born, to death, to the air we breathe, to the reason why there is so much space out there, everything..

Kinda like 'Dam if i only get xx/x amount of years then nothing why bother, in the end nothing really matters'.

It doesn't matter if it's boring or not. It's reality. We are here, we exist, no other reason is required. Why would there be? Space exists ---whether we acknowledge it or not doesn't matter. Nothing will change the fact that it does. We "bother" because it is human nature to do so, no other justification is needed. Like what?

What is your point?

KingMerv00 · 26th February 2010, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by rorylee

Seriously though, If you think we go through all this Joy & Pain with everything else in between and just cease to exist, that's pretty boring isn't it? Not much reason to why you were born, to death, to the air we breathe, to the reason why there is so much space out there, everything..

Kinda like 'Dam if i only get xx/x amount of years then nothing why bother, in the end nothing really matters'.

Reality isn't always nice enough to conform to your hopes and dreams.

dafydd · 26th February 2010, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by tsig

Here's one version:

" Don't you ever laugh as the hearse goes by,
For you may be the next to die.
They wrap you up in a big white sheet
From your head down to your feet.
They put you in a big black box
And cover you up with dirt and rocks.
All goes well for about a week,
Then your coffin begins to leak.
The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out,
The worms play pinochle on your snout.
They eat your eyes, they eat your nose,
They eat the jelly between your toes.
A big green worm with rolling eyes
Crawls in your stomach and out your eyes.
Your stomach turns a slimy green,
And pus pours out like whipping cream.
You spread it on a slice of bread,
And that's what you eat when you are dead."

http://www.visualwriter.com/Priest/Novel/hearse.htm

There's a chorus,every four lines, "oh ho ho ho,where will we be in a hundred years from now''

Paulhoff · 26th February 2010, 04:17 PM

What happens after we die, the same thing that happened for the 13.7 billions years before that. No paying of taxes before we are alive and none after we die.

Paul

Fnord · 26th February 2010, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by KingMerv00

Reality isn't always nice enough to conform to your hopes and dreams.

.
Reality sucks. That's why we have beer, books, movies, Interwebz, pron, religion, RPGs, video games and weed.

kuroyume0161 · 26th February 2010, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Ron_Tomkins

You remain dead.

Unless you were bitten by a zombie. Then you would reanimate and mysteriously seek out living humans upon which to feast!

(Sorry, couldn't help myself. Just finished reading "The Zombie Survival Guide" - what a hoot)

26th February 2010, 08:58 AM	#1
CriticalSock Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bouncing Bucolically over Bristol Posts: 1,072	What Happens After I Die? Has this been posted before? I was emailed it today by a work colleague: "I found this great website that clearly explains what happens after you die. It's complete in its understanding of the afterlife, yet put in terms so simple that even children can easily understand it. Enjoy." http://whathappensafteridie.com/

26th February 2010, 09:07 AM	#2
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26th February 2010, 09:35 AM	#4
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26th February 2010, 09:49 AM	#9
Piscivore Smelling fishy Join Date: May 2004 Location: Home is wherever I'm with you Posts: 21,203	Originally Posted by rorylee lol! i guess you'll find out when you die hey =] Or... not.
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26th February 2010, 09:13 AM	#3
Pure_Argent Resident Gamer Geek Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Lab Posts: 4,929	Brilliant.

26th February 2010, 09:42 AM	#5
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26th February 2010, 09:42 AM	#7
EventHorizon Atheist Tergiversator Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 745	Originally Posted by TieDyedGuy I like the comment in source: Good find, I never would have thought to check the source of such a simple web page.

26th February 2010, 09:47 AM	#8
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26th February 2010, 10:37 AM	#11
Fnord Metasyntactic Variable Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5,105	Originally Posted by CriticalSock What Happens After I Die? Every living thing that did not die with you continues to live, and whatever else that did not cease to exist with your death continues to exist. Your mind-processes cease to run. Your body de-animates and its decay accelerates. And then it rains.
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26th February 2010, 12:00 PM	#18
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26th February 2010, 12:16 PM	#19
Upchurch Papa Funkosophy Join Date: May 2002 Location: Funky Town (STL, MO) Posts: 20,329	Originally Posted by EventHorizon Good find, I never would have thought to check the source of such a simple web page. It might be the troubleshooter in me, but I immediately checked the source to see if that was what it was supposed to do. Of course, I immediately ignored any comments.

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26th February 2010, 12:22 PM	#21
sgtbaker Muse Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 851	Originally Posted by Fnord Every living thing that did not die with you continues to live, and whatever else that did not cease to exist with your death continues to exist. Your mind-processes cease to run. Your body de-animates and its decay accelerates. And then it rains. Oh rain? That's just ruins the whole day
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26th February 2010, 12:26 PM	#22
Trent Wray Evening Sun Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3,377	When you die, the concept of you becoming the same as everything else, and thus nothing, begins infinitely. Is this statement true? And if not, why isn't it? Any replies would be appreciated ..
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26th February 2010, 01:35 PM	#23
calebprime Somewhat Elitist Parasite Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,188	Originally Posted by kuroyume0161 Not even black... That's what I was going to say. The nothing nothings, so to speak.
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26th February 2010, 02:36 PM	#24
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 9,931	Originally Posted by CriticalSock Has this been posted before? I was emailed it today by a work colleague: "I found this great website that clearly explains what happens after you die. It's complete in its understanding of the afterlife, yet put in terms so simple that even children can easily understand it. Enjoy." http://whathappensafteridie.com/ Here's one version: " Don't you ever laugh as the hearse goes by, For you may be the next to die. They wrap you up in a big white sheet From your head down to your feet. They put you in a big black box And cover you up with dirt and rocks. All goes well for about a week, Then your coffin begins to leak. The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out, The worms play pinochle on your snout. They eat your eyes, they eat your nose, They eat the jelly between your toes. A big green worm with rolling eyes Crawls in your stomach and out your eyes. Your stomach turns a slimy green, And pus pours out like whipping cream. You spread it on a slice of bread, And that's what you eat when you are dead." http://www.visualwriter.com/Priest/Novel/hearse.htm

26th February 2010, 02:53 PM	#25
rorylee Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 1,121	Seriously though, If you think we go through all this Joy & Pain with everything else in between and just cease to exist, that's pretty boring isn't it? Not much reason to why you were born, to death, to the air we breathe, to the reason why there is so much space out there, everything.. Kinda like 'Dam if i only get xx/x amount of years then nothing why bother, in the end nothing really matters'.

26th February 2010, 02:59 PM	#26
Piscivore Smelling fishy Join Date: May 2004 Location: Home is wherever I'm with you Posts: 21,203	Originally Posted by rorylee Seriously though, If you think we go through all this Joy & Pain with everything else in between and just cease to exist, that's pretty boring isn't it? Why do you feel the universe owes you an eternity, let alone an exciting one? Quote: Not much reason to why you were born, to death, to the air we breathe, to the reason why there is so much space out there, everything.. If by "reason" you mean some "higher" purpose than what we ourselves make, no. Quote: Kinda like 'Dam if i only get xx/x amount of years then nothing why bother, in the end nothing really matters'. It matters to you, and the people around you. Why do you feel your existence must be eternal to have any signifigance? Kind of a sad world-view you've got there, if you have to pretend to a whole passel of cosmic signifigance to feel yourself to be of any value.
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26th February 2010, 03:02 PM	#27
Trent Wray Evening Sun Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3,377	Originally Posted by rorylee Seriously though, If you think we go through all this Joy & Pain with everything else in between and just cease to exist, that's pretty boring isn't it? Not much reason to why you were born, to death, to the air we breathe, to the reason why there is so much space out there, everything.. Kinda like 'Dam if i only get xx/x amount of years then nothing why bother, in the end nothing really matters'. This is where the non-believer will tell you that they "do not need to believe in sky fairies and the afterlife to enjoy life and find meaning in it." I think you are assuming that everyone must feel like you, and have to find a justification for being alive in order to go through the pain and find meaning in the pleasure everyday. This is definitely a philosophical quandry I think many people go through ... but I can tell you that at one point, I thought exactly this same way. So the belief in an afterlife and god "having a purpose" for me became a reality which I lived by and used. But eventually, I saw I was hiding behind those things as an excuse to not experience the reality that was here and just take it at face value. Life is pleasure and pain and lots of other stuff. Finding meaning in it is rewarding and wonderful. But HAVING to have a meaning behind it can drive one to living on crutches when you can probably walk just fine without them. You can accept responsibility for the pain you cause and forgive others for the pain they inflict on you without having to justify them or yourself. It's just life. God doesn't have to arbritrate everything. Also, you can enjoy pleasure and love others and even sacrifice yourself for others and causes without feeling guilty or afraid and having to reasons to feel those things or not feel them. Regardless of what you believe, you will die one day as will all of us. That will be the culmination of the point. What happens after that doesn't have to determine how you live now. And here is a thought ... if there is a god, would he eventually want you to make your own reality or always be enslaved or looking to a version of his or someone elses?
Trent Wray Evening Sun Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3,377

26th February 2010, 03:03 PM	#28
Fnord Metasyntactic Variable Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5,105	Originally Posted by readme.txt This site is racist. Evidence, Please? If you're referring to the earlier "Not even black" comment, the poster was referring to what the dead person senses. "Not even black" means that the dead person perceives nothing -- not even the "blackness" of nothing.
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26th February 2010, 03:05 PM	#29
Ron_Tomkins Satan's Helper Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 20,125	Originally Posted by CriticalSock What Happens After I Die? You remain dead.
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26th February 2010, 03:12 PM	#30
Piscivore Smelling fishy Join Date: May 2004 Location: Home is wherever I'm with you Posts: 21,203	Originally Posted by trentwray This is where the non-believer will tell you that they "do not need to believe in sky fairies and the afterlife to enjoy life and find meaning in it." I think you are assuming that everyone must feel like you, and have to find a justification for being alive in order to go through the pain and find meaning in the pleasure everyday. This is definitely a philosophical quandry I think many people go through ... but I can tell you that at one point, I thought exactly this same way. So the belief in an afterlife and god "having a purpose" for me became a reality which I lived by and used. But eventually, I saw I was hiding behind those things as an excuse to not experience the reality that was here and just take it at face value. Life is pleasure and pain and lots of other stuff. Finding meaning in it is rewarding and wonderful. But HAVING to have a meaning behind it can drive one to living on crutches when you can probably walk just fine without them. You can accept responsibility for the pain you cause and forgive others for the pain they inflict on you without having to justify them or yourself. It's just life. God doesn't have to arbritrate everything. Also, you can enjoy pleasure and love others and even sacrifice yourself for others and causes without feeling guilty or afraid and having to reasons to feel those things or not feel them. Regardless of what you believe, you will die one day as will all of us. That will be the culmination of the point. What happens after that doesn't have to determine how you live now. And here is a thought ... if there is a god, would he eventually want you to make your own reality or always be enslaved or looking to a version of his or someone elses? Well said.
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26th February 2010, 03:12 PM	#31
cyborg deus ex machina Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,565	Originally Posted by rorylee Not much reason to why you were born, to death, to the air we breathe, to the reason why there is so much space out there, everything.. What kind of reason were you looking for? Quote: Kinda like 'Dam if i only get xx/x amount of years then nothing why bother, in the end nothing really matters'. Why would it matter any more if the years never ended?
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26th February 2010, 03:16 PM	#32
Trent Wray Evening Sun Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3,377	Originally Posted by Piscivore Well said. Thank you
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26th February 2010, 03:21 PM	#33
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 9,931	Originally Posted by rorylee Seriously though, If you think we go through all this Joy & Pain with everything else in between and just cease to exist, that's pretty boring isn't it? Not much reason to why you were born, to death, to the air we breathe, to the reason why there is so much space out there, everything.. Kinda like 'Dam if i only get xx/x amount of years then nothing why bother, in the end nothing really matters'. Why would thinking you have eternity make this moment any more meaningful? Moping around and kicking rocks griping about how short life is is no way to live a life.

26th February 2010, 03:26 PM	#34
Fnord Metasyntactic Variable Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5,105	If life had meaning, then there would be a book somewhere describing what that meaning is. ... oh ... yeah ... right ... So, shall we all go out and smite some Canaanites and steal their land? Who's with me? Who'll bring the beer?
	__________________ I am being scorned as a fool by people who claim that I am oppressing them merely because they can not force me to believe as they do. Last edited by Fnord; 26th February 2010 at 03:27 PM.

26th February 2010, 03:33 PM	#35
Uncle Otto Scholar Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 104	Originally Posted by rorylee Seriously though, If you think we go through all this Joy & Pain with everything else in between and just cease to exist, that's pretty boring isn't it? Not much reason to why you were born, to death, to the air we breathe, to the reason why there is so much space out there, everything.. Kinda like 'Dam if i only get xx/x amount of years then nothing why bother, in the end nothing really matters'. It doesn't matter if it's boring or not. It's reality. We are here, we exist, no other reason is required. Why would there be? Space exists ---whether we acknowledge it or not doesn't matter. Nothing will change the fact that it does. We "bother" because it is human nature to do so, no other justification is needed. Like what? What is your point?
Uncle Otto Scholar Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 104