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Old 26th February 2010, 01:22 PM   #1
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Things That Should NOT be Part of TAM

These days, I am fairly sure that the fine TAM organizers, at JREF, have no shortage of genuinely good ideas for things that should be part of the conference. However, it might pay to remind everyone, every now and them, of the sorts of things that should NOT be part of TAM. This is a thread for listing them.
  • A Beauty Contest
  • Premium Seating / Attendee Caste System
  • Mandatory Church Service
  • Free Can of JREF-Branded Silly String for Every Attendee!!
  • A Sweat Lodge
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Old 26th February 2010, 02:13 PM   #2
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I never did follow up on my trivia night idea, although I think I might have sent an email to Jeff.

Oh well, there's always TAM XIV
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Refusing to buy the Marquis and Kate alcohol
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The "Lick Scrut's Belly Button for a Dollar" booth
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Old 26th February 2010, 02:27 PM   #4
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The "Lick Scrut's Belly Button for a Dollar" booth
Hey, you played last year!
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Originally Posted by The Central Scrutinizer View Post
Hey, you played last year!
Played? I won.
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Old 26th February 2010, 04:25 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Marquis de Carabas View Post
Refusing to buy the Marquis and Kate alcohol
I'll buy you two a ginger ale. Does that sound good?


Originally Posted by Marquis de Carabas View Post
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The "Lick Scrut's Belly Button for a Dollar" booth
Too many people might enjoy those things. Not me, of course. But, there is no reason to ban them, since they could be rather popular and mostly harmless.
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Old 26th February 2010, 04:59 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Wowbagger View Post
Free Can of JREF-Branded Silly String for Every Attendee!!

At this point, I must demand a Can of JREF-Branded Silly String!



Originally Posted by Marquis de Carabas View Post
The "Lick Scrut's Belly Button for a Dollar" booth


I could set up my "Hit a Guy in the Head With a Stick" Booth, if you'd like.

Just let me know.

And I'm serious.

I'll split it 50-50 with the JREF.

Srysly.
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Originally Posted by Marquis de Carabas View Post
Played? I won.
They only way to win is not to play.
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Originally Posted by Horatius View Post
At this point, I must demand a Can of JREF-Branded Silly String!
Jeff would be annoyed.

There are many, many other free JREF-branded gifts that wouldn't be such a good idea, for much of the same reason:

Whoopee Cushions
Stink Bombs
Rubber Band Guns
Tasers
Etc.

But, most of those have obvious problems. I think Silly String would be the most plausible thing to warn them about.
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Old 26th February 2010, 05:25 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Wowbagger View Post
Jeff would be annoyed.


You've failed to consider the possibility that I want to annoy Jeff.
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Originally Posted by Horatius View Post
You've failed to consider the possibility that I want to annoy Jeff.

Who doesn't!
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Originally Posted by Sc00ter View Post
Who doesn't!


Wowbagger, apparently.
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Free laser pointers. (Worst. TAM. Idea. ever.)

Speakers who read their PowerPoint slides to the audience, verbatim.

Speakers who read their latest book to the audience, verbatim.

Speakers who go on and on about having a stroke.
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Silent prayer.

Old Maid game. For money.

A reading of chapters from the latest Twilight "novel" by the "author".

Showing of "2012".

Showing of any D. Avery film, unless he is present and securely bound to the podium next the screen/monitor.

An appearance of A. Conan Doyle to speak on why he was really right about the spirit world and fairies.
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Old 26th February 2010, 05:59 PM   #15
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An appearance of A. Conan Doyle to speak on why he was really right about the spirit world and fairies.



Were he available, I think this would be mandatory.
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Old 26th February 2010, 06:02 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by RSLancastr View Post
Free laser pointers. (Worst. TAM. Idea. ever.)

I beg to differ. That was AWESOME.
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Originally Posted by paperskater View Post
I beg to differ. That was AWESOME.
They're also illegal to bring in to Australia.

I think the JREF should have more branded merchandise, not less. So far I have a t-shirt and a sharpie. This is a pretty piss poor effort, in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Wowbagger View Post
Jeff would be annoyed.

There are many, many other free JREF-branded gifts that wouldn't be such a good idea, for much of the same reason:

Whoopee Cushions
Stink Bombs
Rubber Band Guns
Tasers
Etc.

But, most of those have obvious problems. I think Silly String would be the most plausible thing to warn them about.
Hell, I'd pay for one of each of these...
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I beg to differ. That was AWESOME.
Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
They're also illegal to bring in to Australia.

See, that puzzles me due to the fact that you guys have wild animals running around in your backyard that can kill you easily... and laser pointers are illegal?
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I beg to differ. That was AWESOME.
tell that to all the blinded speakers.
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Originally Posted by Wowbagger View Post
Jeff would be annoyed.

There are many, many other free JREF-branded gifts that wouldn't be such a good idea, for much of the same reason:

Whoopee Cushions
Stink Bombs
Rubber Band Guns
Tasers
Etc.

But, most of those have obvious problems. I think Silly String would be the most plausible thing to warn them about.
The laser pointers at TAM 6 showed how out of control Skeptics can get with small annoying gadgetry.
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
They're also illegal to bring in to Australia.

I think the JREF should have more branded merchandise, not less. So far I have a t-shirt and a sharpie. This is a pretty piss poor effort, in my opinion.
What about a Randi bobble-head doll, made in such a way that the head will only shake "no"?
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tell that to all the blinded speakers.

Did anyone actually get injured by that? To me, it just looked like people were shining them up on the wall above the speakers. I guess I'm just naive enough to think that everyone knew about laser safety and not actually shine it in someone's eyes, especially a room full of very smart people.

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Originally Posted by RSLancastr View Post
Free laser pointers. (Worst. TAM. Idea. ever.)

Speakers who read their PowerPoint slides to the audience, verbatim.

Speakers who read their latest book to the audience, verbatim.

Speakers who go on and on about having a stroke.
Reading power point slides is often the case for the Sunday presenters.

I have yet seen anyone reading from their book; however, I would imagine that I would try to forget that sort of thing.

Long meanderings about having a stroke are acceptable in my book, just as long as it isn't what is keeping the audience from lunch (We love you for it Robert!)
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silly string in cans with LASERS on them
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silly string in cans with LASERS on them


Add in a few sharks, and we're done!
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Originally Posted by Horatius View Post
Wowbagger, apparently.
Oh, no: I actually do try to annoy Jeff, every now and then. The real challenge, for me, is to try to resist doing that, all the time.

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The laser pointers at TAM 6 showed how out of control Skeptics can get with small annoying gadgetry.
Oh yes, I was there. I imagine Silly String would bring on a whole different beast of annoyance.

I can imagine the entire cleaning staff standing at the edge of the conference area, all doing facepalms at once.

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silly string in cans with LASERS on them
silly string in cans with FRIKIN' lasers on them
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"Lick Belly Buttons for a Dollar" booth
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Not enough people might enjoy those things...
Fixed it.
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Seriously.

Hit me.

In the Head.


With a stick.


Seriously.
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Originally Posted by Horatius View Post
Seriously.

Hit me.

In the Head.


With a stick.


Seriously.
Sounds like it might be fodder for the talent show...
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Or a great fundraiser. It could be even better than a dunk-tank.
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There absolutely needs to be a JREF Carnival. Wouldn't you pay big bucks to dunk some of your favorite forum members? How about a game of Pin the Tail on the Scrut?
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There absolutely needs to be a JREF Carnival.
This isn't about what JREF needs. This is about what it doesn't need.

If you want to start listing things it might actually need, please start another thread.
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Seriously.

Hit me.

In the Head.


With a stick.


Seriously.
You're just trying to one-up my awesomeness from last year's TAM Talent Show



TAM doesn't need anyone one-upping my bed-of-nails awesomeness.
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Originally Posted by paperskater View Post
See, that puzzles me due to the fact that you guys have wild animals running around in your backyard that can kill you easily... and laser pointers are illegal?
A couple of years ago we had a rash of dazzle attacks against aircraft on landing approach. So they were made illegal - "terrorist weapons".
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Originally Posted by Wowbagger View Post
There are many, many other free JREF-branded gifts that wouldn't be such a good idea, for much of the same reason:

Whoopee Cushions
Stink Bombs
Rubber Band Guns
Tasers
Etc.
I was surprised when I was in Los Angeles and saw signs reminding people that silly string is illegal...

What about JREF branded communion wafers and sacramental wine?
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I have yet seen anyone reading from their book; however, I would imagine that I would try to forget that sort of thing.
Author readings aren't horrible... as long as the author is a good reader. Dawkins was okay when I saw him at his latest book tour, but he did venture off script occasionally.
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Did anyone actually get injured by that? To me, it just looked like people were shining them up on the wall above the speakers. I guess I'm just naive enough to think that everyone knew about laser safety and not actually shine it in someone's eyes, especially a room full of very smart people.

Nobody got injured tomy knowledge, but there were times laser dots appeared on a speaker's forehead. So much for a roomful of very smart people!
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I have yet seen anyone reading from their book; however, I would imagine that I would try to forget that sort of thing.
Shermer did this one year. He had just published a pocket-sized book, and proceeded to read the entire thing to the TAM audience, at, I believe, TAM5.

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Originally Posted by RSLancastr View Post
Shermer did this one year. He had just published a pocket-sized book, and proceeded to read the entire thing to the TAM audience, at, I believe, TAM5.
And the rest of the time, he just reads from his slides.

I refer to Shermer's presentation as "poker hour."
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