Racial slur: another Tea Party "leader" causes rats to flee sinking USS Teabagger

Dorian Gray · 12th April 2010, 06:24 PM

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/...type=ynews_rss

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SPRINGBORO — Racist comments, including a slur about Hispanics, posted on the Twitter page of the Springboro Tea Party were particularly hurtful to Alana Turner.“Illegals everywhere today! So many spics makes me feel like a speck. Grrr. Wheres my gun!?” said the March 21 posting on the site managed by the group’s founder, Sonny Thomas.
Turner said the comments upset her because she and Thomas have a 6-year-old son who is part Hispanic.
“Basically, it’s like he’s saying he hates his son,” Turner said.
The Twitter posting triggered cancellations by several local and statewide candidates and elected officials scheduled to speak at a Springboro Tea Party rally scheduled for Saturday, April 17, at North Park. However, some officials say this doesn’t tarnish the Tea Party movement as a whole.
“I don’t think it says anything about the movement per se,” state Sen. Shannon Jones, R-Clearcreek Twp., said on the same day Tea Party officials from around the country formed a federation to counteract perceptions that the groups are racist, unsophisticated and disorganized. Jones was the first elected official to withdraw from the event.
Thomas, an uncontested candidate for a seat on the Warren County Republican Party’s central committee, declined to comment about the controversy.
Rob Scott, founder and president of the Dayton Tea Party, said the national movement is focused on reducing taxes and government, encouraging the free market and respecting the U.S. Constitution — not immigration and certainly not racism.
“Even if we took on immigration as an issue, what was posted was way out of line. It’s classless,” Scott said.

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SPRINGBORO — James Traficant, the former Ohio congressman, dropped out of a Springboro Tea Party rally scheduled for Saturday, April 17, at North Park, his manager said on Friday, April 9.
Traficant, one of the event’s headliners, planned to join the rally via a live feed from his Cleveland radio show, according to George Saadi, his manager and talent agent.
Traficant, whose 17 years in Congress were curtailed by a seven-year term in federal prison for corruption, decided to withdraw due to a posting on the Springboro Tea Party’s Twitter site, Saadi said.
Earlier this week, Chris Koch, a Republican candidate for Warren County commissioner, Linda Oda, a Republican candidate for Warren County Auditor, and Robert Owens, Constitution Party of Ohio candidate for Ohio Attorney General, joined State Sen. Shannon Jones, R-Springboro, and Sen. Jon Husted, R-Kettering, a candidate for Ohio Secretary of State in withdrawing from the rally.
Like Jones, Koch, Oda and Owen said they decided to withdraw from the rally due to a posting on a Twitter site maintained by Sonny Thomas, founder of the Springboro group. The posting made derogatory and violent comments toward Hispanics.
“I have withdrawn as a speaker at the April 17th Tax Day Rally. Racially insensitive remarks cannot be tolerated,” Koch said in an email on Thursday, April 8.
In a press release, Owens said, “I fully support the Tea Party movement and the great patriots and leaders who want to restore our American system, but we must remember that there are legal and Constitutional ways to resolve national and state problems including illegal immigration. Regrettably, the organizer’s comment was totally out of bounds.”

When James Traficant is pulling out of your event, you pretty much screwed up.

Dorian Gray · 12th April 2010, 06:27 PM

*sinking USS Teabagger, I meant to say in the thread title, if a mod would be so kind.

Accidental Martyr · 12th April 2010, 08:06 PM

"Where's my gun?".
WTF?

Walter Ego · 12th April 2010, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by Accidental Martyr

"Where's my gun?".
WTF?

I'm cleaning my gun to use on any census workers who might trespass on my lawn.

Cleon · 12th April 2010, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by Dorian Gray

When James Traficant is pulling out of your event, you pretty much screwed up.

T-shirt.

TheDoLittle · 12th April 2010, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by Cleon

Originally Posted by Dorian Gray

When James Traficant is pulling out of your event, you pretty much screwed up.

T-shirt.

Like This?
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quixotecoyote · 12th April 2010, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by TheDoLittle

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"out of"

Doubt · 13th April 2010, 12:28 AM

This is not necessarily a good thing to have happened.

The teabagger's self-identification makes it easier to spot the idiots. Also keeping them isolated should ultimately lower their influence on the nation as a whole. We should not want them mixing back in with the general population.

rwguinn · 13th April 2010, 08:20 AM

"rats abandoning a sinking ship" is a derogatory term for placing self-interest over the good of the group. This indicate the opposite--the ship is stranding an idiot rat.
In this case, your bias and hatred is showing. The group is still defining itself, and by abandoning an individual, is indicating that the statements by an idiot are NOT the way the group wants to be known.

Unabogie · 13th April 2010, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by rwguinn

"rats abandoning a sinking ship" is a derogatory term for placing self-interest over the good of the group. This indicate the opposite--the ship is stranding an idiot rat.
In this case, your bias and hatred is showing. The group is still defining itself, and by abandoning an individual, is indicating that the statements by an idiot are NOT the way the group wants to be known.

Is he dropping out of the race, or is he still a candidate?

ETA: Oops, I thought we were talking about the guy from New York sending out the racist emails. It's getting so confusing with all the racism flying from the movement that IS NOT BASED IN RACISM.

I'm losing track.

TheDoLittle · 13th April 2010, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by quixotecoyote

"out of"

I stand by my original wording. After all, if the teabagers donut now speeling and graamer, why should I alienate them and appease the Grammer PD?

Freddy · 13th April 2010, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Dorian Gray

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When James Traficant is pulling out of your event, you pretty much screwed up.

If people distance themselves from racist comments and repudiate the comments, then how are they "rats"? Isn't that exactly what you've been calling on people to do in response to racist comments by people associated with a tea party? To publicly repudiate such comments? I guess your enemies can do no right. I'm shocked.

Dorian Gray · 13th April 2010, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by rwguinn

"rats abandoning a sinking ship" is a derogatory term for placing self-interest over the good of the group. This indicate the opposite--the ship is stranding an idiot rat.
In this case, your bias and hatred is showing. The group is still defining itself, and by abandoning an individual, is indicating that the statements by an idiot are NOT the way the group wants to be known.

You are exactly and precisely incorrect. "Rats abandoning a sinking ship" is a metaphor for "You can tell when something is about to fail because large numbers of people begin to leave it." However, and I think this is important for you to realize, EVEN YOU called the guy an idiot. So YOUR bias and YOUR hatred are also showing, Mr. Pot.

Dorian Gray · 13th April 2010, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Freddy

If people distance themselves from racist comments and repudiate the comments, then how are they "rats"? Isn't that exactly what you've been calling on people to do in response to racist comments by people associated with a tea party? To publicly repudiate such comments? I guess your enemies can do no right. I'm shocked.

Yes. It is. And the abandoners DID do right. I'm not complaining about people's reactions. I'm proudly stating that yet another idiot "leader" of the Tea Party has revealed his true colors. Eventually there will be enough of these comments that people simply won't sign up to attend any Tea Parties because association with them will be unpalatable and politically untenable.

Consider, he said again, that CONVICTED FELON JAMES TRAFICANT refused to attend this event because of the guy's comment. It's becoming a good political move anymore to sign up for a Tea Party event and then drop out.

rwguinn · 13th April 2010, 08:22 PM

Maybe the ship that they are abandoning is not the "USS Teabagger" after all.

Cleon · 13th April 2010, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by rwguinn

Maybe the ship that they are abandoning is not the "USS Teabagger" after all.

Well, "HMS Teabagger" probably wouldn't fit in with the image they're trying to convey.

Dorian Gray · 14th April 2010, 03:20 PM

"TBS Teabagger"?

BenBurch · 14th April 2010, 03:34 PM

SS Minnow?

Freddy · 14th April 2010, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Cleon

Well, "HMS Teabagger" probably wouldn't fit in with the image they're trying to convey.

Excuse me, but we're proud Merkans on this side of the pond. The Brits can keep their queen.

Accidental Martyr · 14th April 2010, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by BenBurch

SS Minnow?

Is the three hour tour over?

hgc · 14th April 2010, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by TheDoLittle

I stand by my original wording. After all, if the teabagers donut now speeling and graamer, why should I alienate them and appease the Grammer PD?

If you adept there tacticks, then the terorests win.

12th April 2010, 06:24 PM	#1
Dorian Gray Hypocrisy Detector Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 20,195	Racial slur: another Tea Party "leader" causes rats to flee sinking USS Teabagger http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/...type=ynews_rss Quote: SPRINGBORO — Racist comments, including a slur about Hispanics, posted on the Twitter page of the Springboro Tea Party were particularly hurtful to Alana Turner.“Illegals everywhere today! So many spics makes me feel like a speck. Grrr. Wheres my gun!?” said the March 21 posting on the site managed by the group’s founder, Sonny Thomas. Turner said the comments upset her because she and Thomas have a 6-year-old son who is part Hispanic. “Basically, it’s like he’s saying he hates his son,” Turner said. The Twitter posting triggered cancellations by several local and statewide candidates and elected officials scheduled to speak at a Springboro Tea Party rally scheduled for Saturday, April 17, at North Park. However, some officials say this doesn’t tarnish the Tea Party movement as a whole. “I don’t think it says anything about the movement per se,” state Sen. Shannon Jones, R-Clearcreek Twp., said on the same day Tea Party officials from around the country formed a federation to counteract perceptions that the groups are racist, unsophisticated and disorganized. Jones was the first elected official to withdraw from the event. Thomas, an uncontested candidate for a seat on the Warren County Republican Party’s central committee, declined to comment about the controversy. Rob Scott, founder and president of the Dayton Tea Party, said the national movement is focused on reducing taxes and government, encouraging the free market and respecting the U.S. Constitution — not immigration and certainly not racism. “Even if we took on immigration as an issue, what was posted was way out of line. It’s classless,” Scott said. http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs...?cxtype=fb_mlt Quote: SPRINGBORO — James Traficant, the former Ohio congressman, dropped out of a Springboro Tea Party rally scheduled for Saturday, April 17, at North Park, his manager said on Friday, April 9. Traficant, one of the event’s headliners, planned to join the rally via a live feed from his Cleveland radio show, according to George Saadi, his manager and talent agent. Traficant, whose 17 years in Congress were curtailed by a seven-year term in federal prison for corruption, decided to withdraw due to a posting on the Springboro Tea Party’s Twitter site, Saadi said. Earlier this week, Chris Koch, a Republican candidate for Warren County commissioner, Linda Oda, a Republican candidate for Warren County Auditor, and Robert Owens, Constitution Party of Ohio candidate for Ohio Attorney General, joined State Sen. Shannon Jones, R-Springboro, and Sen. Jon Husted, R-Kettering, a candidate for Ohio Secretary of State in withdrawing from the rally. Like Jones, Koch, Oda and Owen said they decided to withdraw from the rally due to a posting on a Twitter site maintained by Sonny Thomas, founder of the Springboro group. The posting made derogatory and violent comments toward Hispanics. “I have withdrawn as a speaker at the April 17th Tax Day Rally. Racially insensitive remarks cannot be tolerated,” Koch said in an email on Thursday, April 8. In a press release, Owens said, “I fully support the Tea Party movement and the great patriots and leaders who want to restore our American system, but we must remember that there are legal and Constitutional ways to resolve national and state problems including illegal immigration. Regrettably, the organizer’s comment was totally out of bounds.” When James Traficant is pulling out of your event, you pretty much screwed up.
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12th April 2010, 06:27 PM	#2
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12th April 2010, 08:31 PM	#5
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TheDoLittle Disco King Discombobulator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,658	Originally Posted by Cleon Originally Posted by Dorian Gray When James Traficant is pulling out of your event, you pretty much screwed up. T-shirt. Like This? JamesTraficantTee.jpg
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Unabogie Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 5,842	Originally Posted by rwguinn "rats abandoning a sinking ship" is a derogatory term for placing self-interest over the good of the group. This indicate the opposite--the ship is stranding an idiot rat. In this case, your bias and hatred is showing. The group is still defining itself, and by abandoning an individual, is indicating that the statements by an idiot are NOT the way the group wants to be known. Is he dropping out of the race, or is he still a candidate? ETA: Oops, I thought we were talking about the guy from New York sending out the racist emails. It's getting so confusing with all the racism flying from the movement that IS NOT BASED IN RACISM. I'm losing track.
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13th April 2010, 09:46 AM	#11
TheDoLittle Disco King Discombobulator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,658	Originally Posted by quixotecoyote "out of" I stand by my original wording. After all, if the teabagers donut now speeling and graamer, why should I alienate them and appease the Grammer PD?
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13th April 2010, 10:52 AM	#12
Freddy Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 1,024	Originally Posted by Dorian Gray http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/...type=ynews_rss [/size] http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs...?cxtype=fb_mlt When James Traficant is pulling out of your event, you pretty much screwed up. If people distance themselves from racist comments and repudiate the comments, then how are they "rats"? Isn't that exactly what you've been calling on people to do in response to racist comments by people associated with a tea party? To publicly repudiate such comments? I guess your enemies can do no right. I'm shocked.
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13th April 2010, 06:37 PM	#13
Dorian Gray Hypocrisy Detector Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 20,195	Originally Posted by rwguinn "rats abandoning a sinking ship" is a derogatory term for placing self-interest over the good of the group. This indicate the opposite--the ship is stranding an idiot rat. In this case, your bias and hatred is showing. The group is still defining itself, and by abandoning an individual, is indicating that the statements by an idiot are NOT the way the group wants to be known. You are exactly and precisely incorrect. "Rats abandoning a sinking ship" is a metaphor for "You can tell when something is about to fail because large numbers of people begin to leave it." However, and I think this is important for you to realize, EVEN YOU called the guy an idiot. So YOUR bias and YOUR hatred are also showing, Mr. Pot.
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13th April 2010, 06:43 PM	#14
Dorian Gray Hypocrisy Detector Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 20,195	Originally Posted by Freddy If people distance themselves from racist comments and repudiate the comments, then how are they "rats"? Isn't that exactly what you've been calling on people to do in response to racist comments by people associated with a tea party? To publicly repudiate such comments? I guess your enemies can do no right. I'm shocked. Yes. It is. And the abandoners DID do right. I'm not complaining about people's reactions. I'm proudly stating that yet another idiot "leader" of the Tea Party has revealed his true colors. Eventually there will be enough of these comments that people simply won't sign up to attend any Tea Parties because association with them will be unpalatable and politically untenable. Consider, he said again, that CONVICTED FELON JAMES TRAFICANT refused to attend this event because of the guy's comment. It's becoming a good political move anymore to sign up for a Tea Party event and then drop out.
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13th April 2010, 08:22 PM	#15
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13th April 2010, 08:38 PM	#16
Cleon King of the Pod People Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 20,506	Originally Posted by rwguinn Maybe the ship that they are abandoning is not the "USS Teabagger" after all. Well, "HMS Teabagger" probably wouldn't fit in with the image they're trying to convey.
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14th April 2010, 04:02 PM	#19
Freddy Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 1,024	Originally Posted by Cleon Well, "HMS Teabagger" probably wouldn't fit in with the image they're trying to convey. Excuse me, but we're proud Merkans on this side of the pond. The Brits can keep their queen.
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14th April 2010, 04:36 PM	#21
hgc Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,988	Originally Posted by TheDoLittle I stand by my original wording. After all, if the teabagers donut now speeling and graamer, why should I alienate them and appease the Grammer PD? If you adept there tacticks, then the terorests win.
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