"On December 21 2012 I'm jumping off a mountain"

Orphia Nay · 8th June 2010, 09:50 PM

"I sincerely believe that on WS2012@11:11 a cosmic portal will materialize in Sedona Arizona. Based upon synchronistic experiences and intuitive information downloads - which I will explain in more detail in the coming months on this web site - I am convinced that I must attempt a 'leap of faith' from the top of Bell Rock at that moment. My ultimate purpose will be to use that 'doorway' to access the center of the galaxy and the source of our cosmic computer program." - Peter A. Gersten.

http://www.2012leapoffaith.net/

One way to make yourself famous, I guess. Pity he won't be around to enjoy it.

Seems he's a UFO nut as well.

http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/caus.html

Humanzee · 8th June 2010, 09:59 PM

ugh, center aligned blocks of text. Thats a seriously sad read. I hope someone intervenes on this attempt to, er, use a 'doorway'.

apopheniacMCMLXXXIX · 8th June 2010, 10:12 PM

Didn't you see this coming? Whenever someone makes a prediction of imminent apocalypse, you get suicides like this. Wasn't there some teenage girl who killed herself when she heard about the LHC doomsday predictions?

Anyway, here's another story we can add to the list of answers to the "What's the harm with believing in woo?" question. Part of me kind of hopes he will jump, but that's terrible. Especially if he inspires more people to join him.

Orphia Nay · 8th June 2010, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by apopheniacMCMLXXXIX

Didn't you see this coming? Whenever someone makes a prediction of imminent apocalypse, you get suicides like this. Wasn't there some teenage girl who killed herself when she heard about the LHC doomsday predictions?

Anyway, here's another story we can add to the list of answers to the "What's the harm with believing in woo?" question. Part of me kind of hopes he will jump, but that's terrible. Especially if he inspires more people to join him.

I was thinking of notifying the What's the Harm website about this, but it hasn't happened yet. Likewise the Darwin Awards.

Humanzee · 8th June 2010, 10:47 PM

It is an unneccesary death and that is sad to me. Even if its a lunatic that dies. Perhaps more so. Thats all I am saying, not that its surprising.

Orphia Nay · 8th June 2010, 11:06 PM

I totally agree, Humanzee. It's very sad, and I hope someone stops him. But you have to laugh, or you'd cry.

Humanzee · 8th June 2010, 11:20 PM

Your right. I am such a downer, my bad....<back to lurkerville for me

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Skeptic Ginger · 9th June 2010, 12:11 AM

Whew! I thought you were writing that in the first person. I'm glad you haven't totally lost it for some unknown reason.

Poor guy. Hopefully writing about it ahead of time will lead to an intervention. It is a couple years off.

Orphia Nay · 9th June 2010, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Whew! I thought you were writing that in the first person. I'm glad you haven't totally lost it for some unknown reason.

Thanks. I worried people might think that, even though I put the topic in quotation marks.

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Poor guy. Hopefully writing about it ahead of time will lead to an intervention. It is a couple years off.

Yes, hopefully.

Surely, even though he's a woo and UFO nut, he knows someone who can put reasonable doubt in his mind that the portal or whatever is not going to catch him, even if they can't convince him there won't even be a portal.

PaKu · 9th June 2010, 06:38 AM

it will not be interesting to hear what excuse he wil come up with for not doing it when the time comes.

Psi Baba · 9th June 2010, 06:58 AM

I've been thinking of having a party on that date just to defy all the wooism. Maybe the media will pick up on this guy's stunt and it will be televised live. Man, that would be better than New Year's Eve Y2K!

Hokulele · 9th June 2010, 07:12 AM

IIRC, that area is managed by the US Forest Service. It won't surprise me if some ranger is there on that date to discourage any vortex-jumping idiocy.

KingMerv00 · 9th June 2010, 10:35 AM

And some poor guy will be scraping him into a body bag on December 22.

IXP · 9th June 2010, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Humanzee

ugh, center aligned blocks of text. Thats a seriously sad read. I hope someone intervenes on this attempt to, er, use a 'doorway'.

No, let him be. The Darwin award is the best he can ever hope to achieve. Why take that away from him?

IXP

steph · 9th June 2010, 10:49 AM

now does this guy actually believe what he is saying or is it just a joke?

i feel bad if he is serious. My mom always told me that it is not nice to laugh at stupid people, they don't know any better....I'm such a horrible person....

Cainkane1 · 9th June 2010, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

"I sincerely believe that on WS2012@11:11 a cosmic portal will materialize in Sedona Arizona. Based upon synchronistic experiences and intuitive information downloads - which I will explain in more detail in the coming months on this web site - I am convinced that I must attempt a 'leap of faith' from the top of Bell Rock at that moment. My ultimate purpose will be to use that 'doorway' to access the center of the galaxy and the source of our cosmic computer program." - Peter A. Gersten.

http://www.2012leapoffaith.net/

One way to make yourself famous, I guess. Pity he won't be around to enjoy it.

Seems he's a UFO nut as well.

http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/caus.html

I hope he hasn't reproduced and won't in the future.

Nursedan · 9th June 2010, 11:03 AM

I call shenanigans. No way will he do this.

But....

If he does, you gotta respect that devotion to a cause. Wait, it isn't really a cause, is it?

You gotta respect that devotion to a delusion.

Wouldn't it be weird if this turned out in his favor? Like if he was whisked away to some celestial portal and achieved some higher intelligence we can only dream of?

ExMinister · 9th June 2010, 11:30 AM

Do you think he's mentally ill?

The talk of intuitive information downloads, feeling he MUST leap off the rock, all the other bizarre stuff that would seem to indicate a serious break from reality.

Weird how hard it can be to tell the otherwise mentally well but overly imaginative New Ager from the seriously mentally ill.

RhodyDave · 9th June 2010, 12:04 PM

Well, I want to know how much of a fall is it from the top of this rock to the nearest landing place. Maybe he'll leap off a 10 foot drop, expecting to pass through the cosmic portal. He'll probably walk away from that, maybe twist an ankle at worst. Now if the drop is 200 feet, the joke's on him.

Another thought; I hope he wears some sort of protective suit with an air supply for when he reaches the galactic center. Probably not a breathable atmosphere for humans at such a place. And what luck! The cosmic portal is going to be in Sedona, Arizona, and not, say, 50,000 light years from the middle of the IOK-1 galaxy...that would be inconvenient.

Bell · 9th June 2010, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

I am convinced that I must attempt a 'leap of faith' from the top of Bell Rock at that moment.

Not in my backyard you won't!

Anywoo... I think there will be a number of religious/open minded people committing suicide because of 12/21/12. Alas

steph · 9th June 2010, 02:06 PM

I can see it now "2012 mass suicide survior claims 'it wasn't suicide, GOD told me to do it in order to end the world'"

dudalb · 9th June 2010, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by RhodyDave

Well, I want to know how much of a fall is it from the top of this rock to the nearest landing place. Maybe he'll leap off a 10 foot drop, expecting to pass through the cosmic portal. He'll probably walk away from that, maybe twist an ankle at worst. Now if the drop is 200 feet, the joke's on him.

Another thought; I hope he wears some sort of protective suit with an air supply for when he reaches the galactic center. Probably not a breathable atmosphere for humans at such a place. And what luck! The cosmic portal is going to be in Sedona, Arizona, and not, say, 50,000 light years from the middle of the IOK-1 galaxy...that would be inconvenient.

I have been to Ball Rock; if he really does jump off the top he is Toast.

steph · 9th June 2010, 02:10 PM

i wouldn't consider him quite toast...more like a pancake...

HighRiser · 9th June 2010, 02:12 PM

Hopefully in the next year and a half he'll have forgotten all about it...

George152 · 9th June 2010, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by PaKu

it will not be interesting to hear what excuse he wil come up with for not doing it when the time comes.

Splat is more a sound than an explanation

Bell · 9th June 2010, 02:16 PM

Is the end of the world progressive? Ie, does it take 24 hours moving from east to west? Or is it instant? If so, at what time UTC? I need to know so I can already plan it in iCal.

SOdhner · 9th June 2010, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

"I sincerely believe that on WS2012@11:11 a cosmic portal will materialize in Sedona Arizona."

"Nirvana is coming, the mystic portal awaits."

SezMe · 9th June 2010, 02:37 PM

Sedona is one of the wooest places in the USA. Last year when we vacationed there was when a couple of people died in a sweat lodge. We took a jeep tour with a guide who was just nuts. For example, he took us to a "vortex site" and explained that a small tree was leaning a bit because of the vortex energy. *snort*

So the problem is that this guy is going to get a lot of support for his craziness.

Orphia Nay · 9th June 2010, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by ExMinister

Weird how hard it can be to tell the otherwise mentally well but overly imaginative New Ager from the seriously mentally ill.

Apparently he's a lawyer, too. Or he was. I hope he's not still practising.

Originally Posted by steph

i wouldn't consider him quite toast...more like a pancake...

I lol'd. Yes, you're a horrible person.

Originally Posted by SezMe

Sedona is one of the wooest places in the USA. Last year when we vacationed there was when a couple of people died in a sweat lodge. We took a jeep tour with a guide who was just nuts. For example, he took us to a "vortex site" and explained that a small tree was leaning a bit because of the vortex energy. *snort*

So the problem is that this guy is going to get a lot of support for his craziness.

Exactly. We had a thread a while ago about the batcraptasticness of Sedona: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=156253

Jekyll's Guest · 9th June 2010, 05:16 PM

"I sincerely believe that on WS2012@11:11 a cosmic portal will materialize in Sedona Arizona. Based upon synchronistic experiences and intuitive information downloads - which I will explain in more detail in the coming months on this web site - I am convinced that I must attempt a 'leap of faith' from the top of Bell Rock at that moment. My ultimate purpose will be to use that 'doorway' to access the center of the galaxy and the source of our cosmic computer program." - Peter A. Gersten.

That's a heck of a lot of words, and individually they appear to be English...

synchronistic experiences
intuitive information downloads
source of our cosmic computer program

Is he trying to create a new English language?

And, more importantly, is this enough proof to have him committed as a potentially dangerous schizophrenic?

Orphia Nay · 9th June 2010, 06:04 PM

I found this video of him talking (from 2007 or earlier).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32f9PsI33BQ

At 3 min 20 he says one of his synchronicities is that someone sent him an email telling him that the Winter Solstice is exactly 11:11 UT on that date.

But according to this, Winter Solstice is actually 11:12 UT.

Oh, dear. Will he miss it by THAT much?

quarky · 9th June 2010, 06:08 PM

Boy, what a bunch of bitter old cynics.

Am I the only one that wishes him a happy crossing over?

SezMe · 9th June 2010, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

At 3 min 20 he says one of his synchronicities is that someone sent him an email telling him that the Winter Solstice is exactly 11:11 UT on that date.

But according to this, Winter Solstice is actually 11:12 UT.

Oh, dear. Will he miss it by THAT much?

No, he's got the calculation perfectly right. He jumps at 11:11 and goes splat at 11:12

Jekyll's Guest · 9th June 2010, 06:52 PM

Maybe the 'doorway' is inside of him, and the only way to enter it is to fold yourself inside out?

Harpyja · 9th June 2010, 08:31 PM

Couldn't someone use this as some sort of evidence, you know, to get law enforcement involved?

JohnnyG · 9th June 2010, 08:39 PM

Does predicting future Darwin Award winners qualify for the MDC?

tsig · 9th June 2010, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by Nursedan

I call shenanigans. No way will he do this.

But....

If he does, you gotta respect that devotion to a cause. Wait, it isn't really a cause, is it?

You gotta respect that devotion to a delusion.

Wouldn't it be weird if this turned out in his favor? Like if he was whisked away to some celestial portal and achieved some higher intelligence we can only dream of?

Maybe he'll go thru the portal and become a galley slave in the great Arcturian ship.

fromdownunder · 9th June 2010, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by Jekyll's Guest

Maybe the 'doorway' is inside of him, and the only way to enter it is to fold yourself inside out?

Reminds me of this:

Jason Nesmith What? What was that?
Alexander Dane Uh, nothing.
Jason Nesmith I heard some squealing or something.
Gwen DeMarco Oh, no. Everything's fine.
Teb But the animal is inside out.
Jason Nesmith: I heard that! It turned inside out?
[the pig-lizard explodes]
Teb And it exploded.
Jason Nesmith Did I just hear that the animal turned inside out, and then is EXPLODED?

Norm

Jekyll's Guest · 9th June 2010, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by fromdownunder

Reminds me of this:

Jason Nesmith What? What was that?
Alexander Dane Uh, nothing.
Jason Nesmith I heard some squealing or something.
Gwen DeMarco Oh, no. Everything's fine.
Teb But the animal is inside out.
Jason Nesmith: I heard that! It turned inside out?
[the pig-lizard explodes]
Teb And it exploded.
Jason Nesmith Did I just hear that the animal turned inside out, and then is EXPLODED?

Norm

He better hope Tech Sergeant Chen has time to practice with the dimensional portal then.

Ashles · 10th June 2010, 05:03 AM

So if the portal is going to open as part of a 'computer program' or 'electromagnetic grid' or whatever other technobabble he is dribbling... why not just wait until it has opened, then jump.

Why does this require 'a leap of faith' at all?

This guy won't do it. He'll get bored between now and then and focus on some other stupid new age nonsense.

8th June 2010, 09:50 PM	#1
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,338	"On December 21 2012 I'm jumping off a mountain" "I sincerely believe that on WS2012@11:11 a cosmic portal will materialize in Sedona Arizona. Based upon synchronistic experiences and intuitive information downloads - which I will explain in more detail in the coming months on this web site - I am convinced that I must attempt a 'leap of faith' from the top of Bell Rock at that moment. My ultimate purpose will be to use that 'doorway' to access the center of the galaxy and the source of our cosmic computer program." - Peter A. Gersten. http://www.2012leapoffaith.net/ One way to make yourself famous, I guess. Pity he won't be around to enjoy it. Seems he's a UFO nut as well. http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/caus.html
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8th June 2010, 10:18 PM	#4
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,338	Originally Posted by apopheniacMCMLXXXIX Didn't you see this coming? Whenever someone makes a prediction of imminent apocalypse, you get suicides like this. Wasn't there some teenage girl who killed herself when she heard about the LHC doomsday predictions? Anyway, here's another story we can add to the list of answers to the "What's the harm with believing in woo?" question. Part of me kind of hopes he will jump, but that's terrible. Especially if he inspires more people to join him. I was thinking of notifying the What's the Harm website about this, but it hasn't happened yet. Likewise the Darwin Awards.
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8th June 2010, 11:06 PM	#6
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,338	I totally agree, Humanzee. It's very sad, and I hope someone stops him. But you have to laugh, or you'd cry.
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9th June 2010, 12:11 AM	#8
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Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,338	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Whew! I thought you were writing that in the first person. I'm glad you haven't totally lost it for some unknown reason. Thanks. I worried people might think that, even though I put the topic in quotation marks. Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Poor guy. Hopefully writing about it ahead of time will lead to an intervention. It is a couple years off. Yes, hopefully. Surely, even though he's a woo and UFO nut, he knows someone who can put reasonable doubt in his mind that the portal or whatever is not going to catch him, even if they can't convince him there won't even be a portal.
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8th June 2010, 09:59 PM	#2
Humanzee Muse Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: I...hate...tapir...bones... Posts: 528	ugh, center aligned blocks of text. Thats a seriously sad read. I hope someone intervenes on this attempt to, er, use a 'doorway'.

8th June 2010, 10:12 PM	#3
apopheniacMCMLXXXIX New Blood Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Kansas, USA Posts: 10	Didn't you see this coming? Whenever someone makes a prediction of imminent apocalypse, you get suicides like this. Wasn't there some teenage girl who killed herself when she heard about the LHC doomsday predictions? Anyway, here's another story we can add to the list of answers to the "What's the harm with believing in woo?" question. Part of me kind of hopes he will jump, but that's terrible. Especially if he inspires more people to join him.

8th June 2010, 10:47 PM	#5
Humanzee Muse Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: I...hate...tapir...bones... Posts: 528	It is an unneccesary death and that is sad to me. Even if its a lunatic that dies. Perhaps more so. Thats all I am saying, not that its surprising.

8th June 2010, 11:20 PM	#7
Humanzee Muse Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: I...hate...tapir...bones... Posts: 528	Your right. I am such a downer, my bad....<back to lurkerville for me >

9th June 2010, 06:38 AM	#10
PaKu Scholar Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 50	it will not be interesting to hear what excuse he wil come up with for not doing it when the time comes.

9th June 2010, 06:58 AM	#11
Psi Baba Homo Skepticalis Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Occupying my barstool Posts: 3,177	I've been thinking of having a party on that date just to defy all the wooism. Maybe the media will pick up on this guy's stunt and it will be televised live. Man, that would be better than New Year's Eve Y2K!
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9th June 2010, 07:12 AM	#12
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9th June 2010, 10:35 AM	#13
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9th June 2010, 10:42 AM	#14
IXP Muse Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 832	Originally Posted by Humanzee ugh, center aligned blocks of text. Thats a seriously sad read. I hope someone intervenes on this attempt to, er, use a 'doorway'. No, let him be. The Darwin award is the best he can ever hope to achieve. Why take that away from him? IXP
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9th June 2010, 10:49 AM	#15
steph Thinker Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: florida, usa Posts: 247	now does this guy actually believe what he is saying or is it just a joke? i feel bad if he is serious. My mom always told me that it is not nice to laugh at stupid people, they don't know any better....I'm such a horrible person....

9th June 2010, 10:49 AM	#16
Cainkane1 Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The great American southeast Posts: 7,186	Originally Posted by Orphia Nay "I sincerely believe that on WS2012@11:11 a cosmic portal will materialize in Sedona Arizona. Based upon synchronistic experiences and intuitive information downloads - which I will explain in more detail in the coming months on this web site - I am convinced that I must attempt a 'leap of faith' from the top of Bell Rock at that moment. My ultimate purpose will be to use that 'doorway' to access the center of the galaxy and the source of our cosmic computer program." - Peter A. Gersten. http://www.2012leapoffaith.net/ One way to make yourself famous, I guess. Pity he won't be around to enjoy it. Seems he's a UFO nut as well. http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/caus.html I hope he hasn't reproduced and won't in the future.
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9th June 2010, 11:03 AM	#17
Nursedan Critical Thinker Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 492	I call shenanigans. No way will he do this. But.... If he does, you gotta respect that devotion to a cause. Wait, it isn't really a cause, is it? You gotta respect that devotion to a delusion. Wouldn't it be weird if this turned out in his favor? Like if he was whisked away to some celestial portal and achieved some higher intelligence we can only dream of?
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9th June 2010, 11:30 AM	#18
ExMinister RSL Acolyte Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,749	Do you think he's mentally ill? The talk of intuitive information downloads, feeling he MUST leap off the rock, all the other bizarre stuff that would seem to indicate a serious break from reality. Weird how hard it can be to tell the otherwise mentally well but overly imaginative New Ager from the seriously mentally ill.
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9th June 2010, 12:04 PM	#19
RhodyDave Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rhode Island, of course! Posts: 338	Well, I want to know how much of a fall is it from the top of this rock to the nearest landing place. Maybe he'll leap off a 10 foot drop, expecting to pass through the cosmic portal. He'll probably walk away from that, maybe twist an ankle at worst. Now if the drop is 200 feet, the joke's on him. Another thought; I hope he wears some sort of protective suit with an air supply for when he reaches the galactic center. Probably not a breathable atmosphere for humans at such a place. And what luck! The cosmic portal is going to be in Sedona, Arizona, and not, say, 50,000 light years from the middle of the IOK-1 galaxy...that would be inconvenient.
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9th June 2010, 02:03 PM	#20
Bell beautiful freak Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,461	Originally Posted by Orphia Nay I am convinced that I must attempt a 'leap of faith' from the top of Bell Rock at that moment. Not in my backyard you won't! Anywoo... I think there will be a number of religious/open minded people committing suicide because of 12/21/12. Alas
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steph Thinker Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: florida, usa Posts: 247	I can see it now "2012 mass suicide survior claims 'it wasn't suicide, GOD told me to do it in order to end the world'"

9th June 2010, 02:09 PM	#22
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 22,782	Originally Posted by RhodyDave Well, I want to know how much of a fall is it from the top of this rock to the nearest landing place. Maybe he'll leap off a 10 foot drop, expecting to pass through the cosmic portal. He'll probably walk away from that, maybe twist an ankle at worst. Now if the drop is 200 feet, the joke's on him. Another thought; I hope he wears some sort of protective suit with an air supply for when he reaches the galactic center. Probably not a breathable atmosphere for humans at such a place. And what luck! The cosmic portal is going to be in Sedona, Arizona, and not, say, 50,000 light years from the middle of the IOK-1 galaxy...that would be inconvenient. I have been to Ball Rock; if he really does jump off the top he is Toast.

9th June 2010, 02:10 PM	#23
steph Thinker Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: florida, usa Posts: 247	i wouldn't consider him quite toast...more like a pancake...

9th June 2010, 02:12 PM	#24
HighRiser Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: High above Indianapolis Posts: 339	Hopefully in the next year and a half he'll have forgotten all about it...

9th June 2010, 02:15 PM	#25
George152 Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hamilton New Zealand Posts: 2,041	Originally Posted by PaKu it will not be interesting to hear what excuse he wil come up with for not doing it when the time comes. Splat is more a sound than an explanation
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9th June 2010, 02:16 PM	#26
Bell beautiful freak Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,461	Is the end of the world progressive? Ie, does it take 24 hours moving from east to west? Or is it instant? If so, at what time UTC? I need to know so I can already plan it in iCal.
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9th June 2010, 02:28 PM	#27
SOdhner Muse Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 837	Originally Posted by Orphia Nay "I sincerely believe that on WS2012@11:11 a cosmic portal will materialize in Sedona Arizona." "Nirvana is coming, the mystic portal awaits."
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9th June 2010, 02:37 PM	#28
SezMe post-pre-born Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 16,361	Sedona is one of the wooest places in the USA. Last year when we vacationed there was when a couple of people died in a sweat lodge. We took a jeep tour with a guide who was just nuts. For example, he took us to a "vortex site" and explained that a small tree was leaning a bit because of the vortex energy. snort So the problem is that this guy is going to get a lot of support for his craziness.

9th June 2010, 04:41 PM	#29
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,338	Originally Posted by ExMinister Weird how hard it can be to tell the otherwise mentally well but overly imaginative New Ager from the seriously mentally ill. Apparently he's a lawyer, too. Or he was. I hope he's not still practising. Originally Posted by steph i wouldn't consider him quite toast...more like a pancake... I lol'd. Yes, you're a horrible person. Originally Posted by SezMe Sedona is one of the wooest places in the USA. Last year when we vacationed there was when a couple of people died in a sweat lodge. We took a jeep tour with a guide who was just nuts. For example, he took us to a "vortex site" and explained that a small tree was leaning a bit because of the vortex energy. snort So the problem is that this guy is going to get a lot of support for his craziness. Exactly. We had a thread a while ago about the batcraptasticness of Sedona: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=156253
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9th June 2010, 05:16 PM	#30
Jekyll's Guest Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,948	"I sincerely believe that on WS2012@11:11 a cosmic portal will materialize in Sedona Arizona. Based upon synchronistic experiences and intuitive information downloads - which I will explain in more detail in the coming months on this web site - I am convinced that I must attempt a 'leap of faith' from the top of Bell Rock at that moment. My ultimate purpose will be to use that 'doorway' to access the center of the galaxy and the source of our cosmic computer program." - Peter A. Gersten. That's a heck of a lot of words, and individually they appear to be English... synchronistic experiences intuitive information downloads source of our cosmic computer program Is he trying to create a new English language? And, more importantly, is this enough proof to have him committed as a potentially dangerous schizophrenic?

9th June 2010, 06:04 PM	#31
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,338	I found this video of him talking (from 2007 or earlier). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32f9PsI33BQ At 3 min 20 he says one of his synchronicities is that someone sent him an email telling him that the Winter Solstice is exactly 11:11 UT on that date. But according to this, Winter Solstice is actually 11:12 UT. Oh, dear. Will he miss it by THAT much?
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9th June 2010, 06:08 PM	#32
quarky Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 20,454	Boy, what a bunch of bitter old cynics. Am I the only one that wishes him a happy crossing over?
quarky Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 20,454

9th June 2010, 06:15 PM	#33
SezMe post-pre-born Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 16,361	Originally Posted by Orphia Nay At 3 min 20 he says one of his synchronicities is that someone sent him an email telling him that the Winter Solstice is exactly 11:11 UT on that date. But according to this, Winter Solstice is actually 11:12 UT. Oh, dear. Will he miss it by THAT much? No, he's got the calculation perfectly right. He jumps at 11:11 and goes splat at 11:12

9th June 2010, 06:52 PM	#34
Jekyll's Guest Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,948	Maybe the 'doorway' is inside of him, and the only way to enter it is to fold yourself inside out?

9th June 2010, 08:31 PM	#35
Harpyja Irrepressible Buzzard Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 636	Couldn't someone use this as some sort of evidence, you know, to get law enforcement involved?
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