This man doesn't get enough attention!

beetzart · 21st August 2010, 12:51 AM

By that I mean he seems to be flying slightly under the woo-woo detection radar; I can't seem to find much in the way of criticising him. Take a look at his belief that he is a reincarnation of Edgar Cayce:

http://www.miraclesandinspiration.com/wilcock.html

Utter loon.

Wolfman · 21st August 2010, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by beetzart

By that I mean he seems to be flying slightly under the woo-woo detection radar; I can't seem to find much in the way of criticising him. Take a look at his belief that he is a reincarnation of Edgar Cayce:

http://www.miraclesandinspiration.com/wilcock.html

Utter loon.

Beyond a belief that he's a reincarnation of Edgar Cayce, that he knows the future, and that he's one of the wisest and most knowledgeable men of our generation...

...exactly what makes you say he's woo, or a loon?

Beaver Hateman · 21st August 2010, 04:44 AM

Did you find much in the way of people taking him seriously? If not, then criticism is somewhat redundant. What's the point in dragging something out from under a rock and waving it in front of people while telling them it's not worth looking at?

beetzart · 21st August 2010, 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by Beaver Hateman

Did you find much in the way of people taking him seriously? If not, then criticism is somewhat redundant. What's the point in dragging something out from under a rock and waving it in front of people while telling them it's not worth looking at?

Just look at his youtube vids (to mention just one outlet,) they get quite a bit of attention. It's just I haven't found much in the way of critical thinking with regards to his views.

Marduk · 21st August 2010, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by beetzart

Take a look at his belief that he is a reincarnation of Edgar Cayce

If he wants to pretend that he's the reincarnation of a man who was convicted of a fraudulent criminal offence and who has been proven wrong on pretty much every level, thats fine by me
Good luck to him

Beaver Hateman · 21st August 2010, 05:36 AM

Originally Posted by beetzart

Just look at his youtube vids (to mention just one outlet,) they get quite a bit of attention. It's just I haven't found much in the way of critical thinking with regards to his views.

People looking at his videos on youtube isn't evidence of anyone taking him seriously. After all, you just told me to do it.

beetzart · 21st August 2010, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by Marduk

If he wants to pretend that he's the reincarnation of a man who was convicted of a fraudulent criminal offence and who has been proven wrong on pretty much every level, thats fine by me
Good luck to him

Lol, yeah but he won't tell you that! It does niggle me though when I hear him use scienctific terminology to shoehorn his whacked out views into gullible minds.

Sledge · 21st August 2010, 07:28 AM

Don't watch his videos. Problem solved.

beetzart · 21st August 2010, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Sledge

Don't watch his videos. Problem solved.

I appreciate the advice, thank you

Although being new to skepticism I prehaps don't fully understand the rules

This is a man who is peddling psuedoscience and making a living out of people desperately after easy answers, for which he gladly supplies. Surely that is something to be annoyed about maybe, and to possibly take the p*** out off.

Marduk · 21st August 2010, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by beetzart

I appreciate the advice, thank you

Although being new to skepticism I prehaps don't fully understand the rules

This is a man who is peddling psuedoscience and making a living out of people desperately after easy answers, for which he gladly supplies. Surely that is something to be annoyed about maybe, and to possibly take the p*** out off.

oh no, not really, if you were looking for that sort of fun theres plenty of more suitable candidates right here
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...sisco+prophecy

Harte · 21st August 2010, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by beetzart

This is a man who is peddling psuedoscience and making a living out of people desperately after easy answers, for which he gladly supplies. Surely that is something to be annoyed about maybe, and to possibly take the p*** out off.

Well, I have in my possession a limited number of woo-destroying amulets from ancient Atlantis.

I can let you have one for only $299.95.

Want to use paypal?

Harte

Marduk · 21st August 2010, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Harte

Well, I have in my possession a limited number of woo-destroying amulets from ancient Atlantis.

I can let you have one for only $299.95.

Want to use paypal?

Harte

Theyre not genuine unless they have the image of a Cat on them

Sledge · 21st August 2010, 08:02 PM

Do not be fooled by people selling amulets. Only Teh Stick has true magic powers. It was brought to us on UFOs from beyond the boundaries of what we call nature.

grayman · 21st August 2010, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by Harte

Well, I have in my possession a limited number of woo-destroying amulets from ancient Atlantis.

I can let you have one for only $299.95.

Want to use paypal?

Harte

Originally Posted by Marduk

Theyre not genuine unless they have the image of a Cat on them

Originally Posted by Sledge

Do not be fooled by people selling amulets. Only Teh Stick has true magic powers. It was brought to us on UFOs from beyond the boundaries of what we call nature.

Hah! I've got The Secret! ™

Uncayimmy · 21st August 2010, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by Beaver Hateman

Did you find much in the way of people taking him seriously? If not, then criticism is somewhat redundant. What's the point in dragging something out from under a rock and waving it in front of people while telling them it's not worth looking at?

Are you saying, then, that it is much better to expose the foolishness of his beliefs after his spot on Larry King and one-hour special on A&E?

Instead of asking the OP what he found, what did you find? According to my search on Google, he's in Wikipedia. His Facebook fan page has over 4,700 likes on it. A search for David Wilcock Ascension shows over 40,000 hits. He has a book published (2004), and it has 35 reviews on Amazon. Just to put it in perspective, Mr. Randi's book "Flim Flam" has 80 reviews, and it has been on the market for 22 years longer.

Akhenaten · 22nd August 2010, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by Beaver Hateman

Did you find much in the way of people taking him seriously? If not, then criticism is somewhat redundant. What's the point in dragging something out from under a rock and waving it in front of people while telling them it's not worth looking at?

I hope that one day I have sufficient experience in this forum and enough of a posting history that I too will be able to determine what are suitable topics for discussion.

Harte · 22nd August 2010, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by UncaYimmy

Just to put it in perspective, Mr. Randi's book "Flim Flam" has 80 reviews, and it has been on the market for 22 years longer.

What? He beats RANDI???

OMG!

No, really, what does that mean to you?

Do you think the larger part of Humanity doesn't believe in this sort of flapdoodle?

Who in hell wants to read a book of facts from some old wet blanket spoilsport party pooper like Randi when one can bask in the mellow, self-satisfying certainty of "The Secret?"

Randi didn't write his book to milk idiots. Most people are idiots. Idiots like to get milked.

Harte

Uncayimmy · 22nd August 2010, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Harte

What? He beats RANDI???

OMG!

No, really, what does that mean to you?

I was answering the question, "Did you find much in the way of people taking him seriously?" I answered that question by pointing out that he seemed to have some level of success with his book selling on Amazon. I offered Mr. Randi's book for comparison.

What did you think I was doing?

dafydd · 23rd August 2010, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by Beaver Hateman

Did you find much in the way of people taking him seriously? If not, then criticism is somewhat redundant. What's the point in dragging something out from under a rock and waving it in front of people while telling them it's not worth looking at?

We all need a good laugh now and again.

21st August 2010, 12:51 AM	#1
beetzart Scholar Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 111	This man doesn't get enough attention! By that I mean he seems to be flying slightly under the woo-woo detection radar; I can't seem to find much in the way of criticising him. Take a look at his belief that he is a reincarnation of Edgar Cayce: http://www.miraclesandinspiration.com/wilcock.html Utter loon.
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21st August 2010, 01:05 AM	#2
Wolfman Chief Solipsistic Autosycophant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Dongguan, China Posts: 11,806	Originally Posted by beetzart By that I mean he seems to be flying slightly under the woo-woo detection radar; I can't seem to find much in the way of criticising him. Take a look at his belief that he is a reincarnation of Edgar Cayce: http://www.miraclesandinspiration.com/wilcock.html Utter loon. Beyond a belief that he's a reincarnation of Edgar Cayce, that he knows the future, and that he's one of the wisest and most knowledgeable men of our generation... ...exactly what makes you say he's woo, or a loon?
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21st August 2010, 04:44 AM	#3
Beaver Hateman Thinker Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 176	Did you find much in the way of people taking him seriously? If not, then criticism is somewhat redundant. What's the point in dragging something out from under a rock and waving it in front of people while telling them it's not worth looking at?
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21st August 2010, 05:19 AM	#4
beetzart Scholar Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 111	Originally Posted by Beaver Hateman Did you find much in the way of people taking him seriously? If not, then criticism is somewhat redundant. What's the point in dragging something out from under a rock and waving it in front of people while telling them it's not worth looking at? Just look at his youtube vids (to mention just one outlet,) they get quite a bit of attention. It's just I haven't found much in the way of critical thinking with regards to his views.
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21st August 2010, 05:36 AM	#6
Beaver Hateman Thinker Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 176	Originally Posted by beetzart Just look at his youtube vids (to mention just one outlet,) they get quite a bit of attention. It's just I haven't found much in the way of critical thinking with regards to his views. People looking at his videos on youtube isn't evidence of anyone taking him seriously. After all, you just told me to do it.
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21st August 2010, 05:25 AM	#5
Marduk Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Newbury, Berkshire Posts: 10,242	Originally Posted by beetzart Take a look at his belief that he is a reincarnation of Edgar Cayce If he wants to pretend that he's the reincarnation of a man who was convicted of a fraudulent criminal offence and who has been proven wrong on pretty much every level, thats fine by me Good luck to him

21st August 2010, 05:37 AM	#7
beetzart Scholar Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 111	Originally Posted by Marduk If he wants to pretend that he's the reincarnation of a man who was convicted of a fraudulent criminal offence and who has been proven wrong on pretty much every level, thats fine by me Good luck to him Lol, yeah but he won't tell you that! It does niggle me though when I hear him use scienctific terminology to shoehorn his whacked out views into gullible minds.
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21st August 2010, 07:28 AM	#8
Sledge Grammaton Cleric Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Swingin' on a star Posts: 7,123	Don't watch his videos. Problem solved.
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21st August 2010, 12:12 PM	#9
beetzart Scholar Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 111	Originally Posted by Sledge Don't watch his videos. Problem solved. I appreciate the advice, thank you Although being new to skepticism I prehaps don't fully understand the rules This is a man who is peddling psuedoscience and making a living out of people desperately after easy answers, for which he gladly supplies. Surely that is something to be annoyed about maybe, and to possibly take the p*** out off.
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21st August 2010, 05:39 PM	#10
Marduk Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Newbury, Berkshire Posts: 10,242	Originally Posted by beetzart I appreciate the advice, thank you Although being new to skepticism I prehaps don't fully understand the rules This is a man who is peddling psuedoscience and making a living out of people desperately after easy answers, for which he gladly supplies. Surely that is something to be annoyed about maybe, and to possibly take the p*** out off. oh no, not really, if you were looking for that sort of fun theres plenty of more suitable candidates right here http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...sisco+prophecy
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21st August 2010, 05:43 PM	#11
Harte Scholar Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 62	Originally Posted by beetzart This is a man who is peddling psuedoscience and making a living out of people desperately after easy answers, for which he gladly supplies. Surely that is something to be annoyed about maybe, and to possibly take the p*** out off. Well, I have in my possession a limited number of woo-destroying amulets from ancient Atlantis. I can let you have one for only $299.95. Want to use paypal? Harte
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21st August 2010, 05:57 PM	#12
Marduk Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Newbury, Berkshire Posts: 10,242	Originally Posted by Harte Well, I have in my possession a limited number of woo-destroying amulets from ancient Atlantis. I can let you have one for only $299.95. Want to use paypal? Harte Theyre not genuine unless they have the image of a Cat on them

21st August 2010, 08:02 PM	#13
Sledge Grammaton Cleric Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Swingin' on a star Posts: 7,123	Do not be fooled by people selling amulets. Only Teh Stick has true magic powers. It was brought to us on UFOs from beyond the boundaries of what we call nature.
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21st August 2010, 09:41 PM	#14
grayman Happy-go-lucky Heretic Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Casa del Whacko Posts: 6,142	Originally Posted by Harte Well, I have in my possession a limited number of woo-destroying amulets from ancient Atlantis. I can let you have one for only $299.95. Want to use paypal? Harte Originally Posted by Marduk Theyre not genuine unless they have the image of a Cat on them Originally Posted by Sledge Do not be fooled by people selling amulets. Only Teh Stick has true magic powers. It was brought to us on UFOs from beyond the boundaries of what we call nature. Hah! I've got The Secret! ™
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21st August 2010, 11:45 PM	#15
Uncayimmy Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,485	Originally Posted by Beaver Hateman Did you find much in the way of people taking him seriously? If not, then criticism is somewhat redundant. What's the point in dragging something out from under a rock and waving it in front of people while telling them it's not worth looking at? Are you saying, then, that it is much better to expose the foolishness of his beliefs after his spot on Larry King and one-hour special on A&E? Instead of asking the OP what he found, what did you find? According to my search on Google, he's in Wikipedia. His Facebook fan page has over 4,700 likes on it. A search for David Wilcock Ascension shows over 40,000 hits. He has a book published (2004), and it has 35 reviews on Amazon. Just to put it in perspective, Mr. Randi's book "Flim Flam" has 80 reviews, and it has been on the market for 22 years longer.
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22nd August 2010, 02:19 AM	#16
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,621	Originally Posted by Beaver Hateman Did you find much in the way of people taking him seriously? If not, then criticism is somewhat redundant. What's the point in dragging something out from under a rock and waving it in front of people while telling them it's not worth looking at? I hope that one day I have sufficient experience in this forum and enough of a posting history that I too will be able to determine what are suitable topics for discussion.
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22nd August 2010, 06:05 PM	#17
Harte Scholar Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 62	Originally Posted by UncaYimmy Just to put it in perspective, Mr. Randi's book "Flim Flam" has 80 reviews, and it has been on the market for 22 years longer. What? He beats RANDI??? OMG! No, really, what does that mean to you? Do you think the larger part of Humanity doesn't believe in this sort of flapdoodle? Who in hell wants to read a book of facts from some old wet blanket spoilsport party pooper like Randi when one can bask in the mellow, self-satisfying certainty of "The Secret?" Randi didn't write his book to milk idiots. Most people are idiots. Idiots like to get milked. Harte
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22nd August 2010, 06:39 PM	#18
Uncayimmy Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,485	Originally Posted by Harte What? He beats RANDI??? OMG! No, really, what does that mean to you? I was answering the question, "Did you find much in the way of people taking him seriously?" I answered that question by pointing out that he seemed to have some level of success with his book selling on Amazon. I offered Mr. Randi's book for comparison. What did you think I was doing?
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23rd August 2010, 02:59 AM	#19
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,437	Originally Posted by Beaver Hateman Did you find much in the way of people taking him seriously? If not, then criticism is somewhat redundant. What's the point in dragging something out from under a rock and waving it in front of people while telling them it's not worth looking at? We all need a good laugh now and again.