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Nostradamus predict the death of Princess Diana, The Queen, And for the Heir!
I know James Randi is very skeptic in the beleif of Nostradamus - to whom I feel sorry for.
So here is my Decipher. Only I written it for the queen instead of the Kings name. http://newsaxon.org/blog/view/id_17448
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It took you 22 months to post this indecipherable thread?
Let me rephrase that: What is your point? |
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Huh. I never thought of it that way. You may have a point. Just let me think about it a moment...
Oh, no wait, it's all absolute bull. My mistake. |
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Nostradamus can be interpreted in such a way that he 'predicted' whatever the reader wants to read into it.
He was the ultimate astrology writer, vague and generalistic so that his prophecies can fit whatever one wants to see. |
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Oh good grief.
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Even by the usual standards of Nostradamus' apologists, this is pathetic. And why on earth would he have been making predictions about British royalty who wouldn't be born for centuries to French royalty in the first place? The former aren't even the latter's descendants AFAIK. |
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She will leave three males, and one female, and of these two will not have had the same father. Diana had only two children, not four. Even by the usual standards of Nostradamus' apologists, this is pathetic. And why on earth would he have been making predictions about British royalty who wouldn't be born for centuries to French royalty in the first place? The former aren't even the latter's descendants AFAIK. Three males... and one Female. The more important in this situation Prince Harry, Prince Phillip, Charles, And the Queen herself. The most immidiate family to the throne. |
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I suppose the real value from a "soothsayer" is to reap the benefits prior to the event not fitting the lock to the key retrospectively
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who thereupon will conceive two principal children
Principal - arch, capital, cardinal, champion, chief, controlling, crowning, dominant, essential, first, foremost, greatest, head, highest, incomparable, key, leading, main, mainline, major, matchless, maximum, outstanding, paramount, peerless, predominant, preeminent, premier, prevailing, primary, prime, prominent, second-to-none, sovereign, star, stellar, strongest, supereminent, superior, supreme, transcendent, unapproachable, unequaled, unparalleled, unrivaled |
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Prince Harry the younger son will be the King of the Throne when Charles Passes. This is my Decipher.
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According to your 'decipher' it's Diana's mother who will have two principal children, after having been barren for a long time. She actually had five children (Diana, one that died and three others who seem equally uninteresting) between the ages of 19 and 28, so the very first line of this 'prophecy' tells us that whoever it's about, it certainly isn't about her and her children.
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It's actually not clear from the quoted 'prophecy' whether the 'she' that will leave three males and one female is the mother or the daughter, but it is clear from the reference to different fathers that it's children that's meant, not other members of the family. Diana's mother had three daughters and two sons (one of whom died at birth, leaving one male and three females) and Diana left two sons, so the verse can't be interpreted as applying to either of them.
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Why would the death of Diana be important enough to warrant a prediction? It was very sad but it didn't change the world in any way. It didn't affect the amount of power held by the British royal family, it didn't start any wars, it didn't lead to a financial crisis or have any other major repercussions. It was just a private tragedy made public because the players were known.
I don't believe that Nostradamus ever truly predicted anything. The quatrains are all so vague that anything can be read in them. But if he did have some magic future-vision, why waste it on tabloid headline nonsense? |
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What about the rest of the letter. It goes on to say ...
... There will be great differences between the three brothers, and then there will be such great co-operation and agreement between them that the three and four parts of Europe will tremble. The youngest of them will sus- tain and augment the Christian monarchy, and under him sects will be elevated, and suddenly cast down, Arabs will be driven back, kingdoms united and new laws promulgated. The oldest one will rule the land whose escutcheon is that of the furious crowned lions with their paws resting upon intrepid arms. The one second in age, accompanied by the Latins, will penetrate far, until a second furious and trembling path has been beaten to the Great St. Bernard Pass. From there he will descend to mount the Pyrenees, which will not, however, be transferred to the French crown. And this third one will cause a great inundation of human blood, and for a long time Lent will not include March. Is Harry going to march on the Pyreness? |
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OK, let's talk about the rules for interpreting Nostradamus.
Rule 1. Your interpretation MUST start by citing a specific quatrain (or in this case) paragraphs Rule 2. Your post MUST include the quatrain in the original French. Rule 3. If you are going to substitute words, then you need to clearly describe how you decided what the new word was going to be. If you cannot follow these rules, then there is absolutely no reason to take you seriously. .............. Oh, and what Pixel42 said. That, too. |
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Its from the epistle. not everything has to be interpreted out of the quatrains. All the writings are important. The Letter to Cesar, The Epstile, and the Quatrains are all intertwine to bring forth knowledge.
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Pretty sure its a prediction concerning Katie Price. Read into it a bit more and i'm sure you'll find something about breast implants.
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I cannot answer all your questions....
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Then you shouldn't have posted an obviously ludicrous claim on a forum whose members are notorious for asking them.
Next time try asking yourself the obvious questions (like: why does almost nothing this prophecy says apply to the people I'm about to claim it applies to) before posting. |
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I suppose I will not post anymore of my Deciphers..
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If you are posting them to get a round of applause, then you're right. Posting them here will probably not be satisfying. If you are posting them to get honest (albeit brutally honest) feedback, a bit of logic and a skeptical interpretation, then by all means post away. You just have to decide what is more important, your ego or your enlightenment.
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So does Prince Charles already know that William is not his son or is that something he will learn just before he is dying?
Maybe I have an overactive imagination, but I suspect that the royal family would have already done a paternity test on the two boys. Especially when rumors of infidelity abounded. |
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I cannot answer all your questions
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Is the JREF message board training wheels for people who hope to one day troll other message boards? It is not that hard to get us to believe you. We are not the major leagues or even the minor leagues. We are Pee-Wee baseball. If you love striking out 10-year-olds, then you'll love trolling our board. |
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Jadey (in RvB game thread): I just want to take a moment to commend Arth on his role as Parasitic Alien Tumor. I think he really connected with the character and there were times when I forgot that he was just acting. That's the kind of talent that you can't teach. |
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