[Merged] Nostradamus predict the death of Princess Diana, The Queen, And for the Heir! - Page 5

Apology · 3rd October 2010, 12:20 PM

I suppose it's not very kind of me to keep all of this prophetic knowledge to myself. To truly understand Nostradamus' meaning, you must first go back to the original French that he wrote, ignoring all the ridiculous and nonsensical English translations that others have put out, since they're all clearly biased. Then, you must find a source of unbiased translation, and what better unbiased source of translation is there than Google Translate, I ask you? There, now you are prepared to understand the real meaning of Nostradamus' otherworldy predictions.

I would like to add that the copies of Nostradamus that are currently on the market have badly degraded French transcriptions; you can only get an accurate translation from older copies of Nostradamus' work that you might find laying around the house, at the library, or in the "FREE PLEASE TAKE" pile outside of second-hand bookshops. Please feel free to help me spread the true word of Nostradamus throughout the world, before la fin des temps take us all unaware!!!

bookitty · 3rd October 2010, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Lucian

Was the legend of Lady Godiva known in France? Could Nostradamus have gotten the naked ride from the legend to add to his vague drivel?

The Godiva legend dates back to the mid 11th century and can be found as a written account in the 12th. Nostradamus was a learned man from the 15th century, he would have had access to the legend.

Also, human nature hasn't changed much in 1000 years. The Godiva story - Naked on horseback! Brave woman sacrifices modesty for the sake of peasants. - would have made it to France long before the 1500's.

Scott Haley · 3rd October 2010, 12:25 PM

If Nostradamus predicted Diana's death, why didn't the Nostradamus scholars warn her?

nchammer326 · 3rd October 2010, 12:27 PM

Am I the only one who saw the title as "Nostradamus Writes LADY GAGA"?

Because that sounds a thousand times more interesting.

bookitty · 3rd October 2010, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Craig4

How about, if he can really see the future why not write something like "A princess named Diana will get in an accident in a car being driven by a guy blitzed out of his skull while being chased by reporters and die." If he's so great why the word games?

There is a school of thought which suggest Nostradamus was referring to lesser events in his own time. Because the players were powerful, he mixed it up in order to deny it if necessary. (Oh no, your grace! My trance was about some other bishop.")

Personally, I'm willing to believe that it's some sort of combination. Some of the quatrains were a way for him to safely express dissatisfaction with contemporary events, some were personal musings, some were for effect and some were things that he thought might happen based on his knowledge of human behavior. Plus a little of the attention whoring that seems to accompany most "psychics."

Lucian · 3rd October 2010, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by bookitty

The Godiva legend dates back to the mid 11th century and can be found as a written account in the 12th. Nostradamus was a learned man from the 15th century, he would have had access to the legend.

Also, human nature hasn't changed much in 1000 years. The Godiva story - Naked on horseback! Brave woman sacrifices modesty for the sake of peasants. - would have made it to France long before the 1500's.

I know the legend was around by that time and had been for centuries (Matthew Paris, Roger of Wendover), but I wasn't sure how widely it had circulated on the continent.

Apology · 3rd October 2010, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by nchammer326

Am I the only one who saw the title as "Nostradamus Writes LADY GAGA"?

Because that sounds a thousand times more interesting.

Oh, but HE DID! Regardez:

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Century III Quatrain 28
De ferre faible & pauvre parentele,
par bout & paix parviendra dans l'Empire,
Long temps regner une jeune femelle,
Qu'oncques en regne n'en survint un pire.

The translation:

Originally Posted by Google Translate

Ferre of low & poor relatives
by piece and peace will succeed in the Empire,
Long time a young female to reign,
not in the realm Qu'oncques came a worse.

I mean, you can tell by the way he uses the word Qu'oncques that he's clearly talking about Lady Gaga, low and poor relatives and all. And who is worse than Lady Gaga? Nobody, that's who. It's truly amazing how he could predict the future so far ahead like that.

Olowkow · 3rd October 2010, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Apology

According to Google translate, only the horse was naked, which is entirely in keeping with how we expect a horse to behave...

But maybe Time was outraged by the horse's lascivious behavior; I suppose he will stop work at Teatime and it will be Teatime all the time until we soothe his outraged sensibilities

86.
La grande Royne quand se verra vaincue,
Fera exces de masculin courage :
Sur cheval, fleuve passera toute nue,
Suite par fer, a foy fera outrage.

It's old French, but even so, there are so many versions on the web it is hard to know what to think.

"toute nue" (naked) must refer to "royne" (queen) since it is a feminine adjective, and "cheval" (horse) is masculine.

"Time" and "faith" sound the same in modern French (fois/foi) fem., and most likely did in the French of his day. People just did not know how to spell...sort of like today.

BTW: Pâté de Foie Gras is another "foie" (liver), masculine.

Craig4 · 3rd October 2010, 01:28 PM

Yeah what a bunch of bastards not telling her body guard to lay off the sauce before he got into a car and drove at high speeds. Way to miss a chance to be useful there guys.

RobDegraves · 3rd October 2010, 01:43 PM

Well, I am somewhat familiar with Michel de Nostredame and I don't think he was much of a prophet nor an astrologer.

To begin with, he was poorly seen by his fellow astrologists for being too lazy to do proper charts. He would generally insist that his clients provide him with their own charts so he would not have to calculate them.

More importantly, when it came to his prophecies, Nostradamus was mostly a plagiarist. For example, many of his prophecies come from the "Mirabilis Liber"(Mirabilis liber qui prophetias revelationesque, necnon res mirandas, preteritas, presentes et futuras, aperte demonstrat) which was a collection of prophesies that was actually on the church's list of prohibited texts. Since most of the people that read his almanacs were not cognizant of such texts, it all looked great. (the complete text of the "Mirabilis Liber" is online btw, if you wish to read it)

Not to mention of course, that his quatrains are vague enough that they could be applied to any circumstance.

I would bet that I could take the Simpsons and use that to predict most major events, past, present or future. I believe there are a number of sites who claim that the Simpsons predicted 9/11, Prophetic... or something more sinister?

Ladewig · 3rd October 2010, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

I shall post Anew! Everyday.. or try to..

Why?

More importantly, as I said in the other thread, we don't give a rat's ass about how you think Nostradamus predicted things that occurred before 2010. If you want to impress us, you will need to use the master's prescience to post specific predictions of future unforeseen events that you cannot control. If you post them and they come true, you will have our attention (and that is what you came here for, isn't it?).

______________________________
Another poster with the random ellipsis and random capitalization. I'm pretty sure I've heard this story before and know how it ends.

Apology · 3rd October 2010, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Olowkow

86.
La grande Royne quand se verra vaincue,
Fera exces de masculin courage :
Sur cheval, fleuve passera toute nue,
Suite par fer, a foy fera outrage.

It's old French, but even so, there are so many versions on the web it is hard to know what to think.

"toute nue" (naked) must refer to "royne" (queen) since it is a feminine adjective, and "cheval" (horse) is masculine.

"Time" and "faith" sound the same in modern French (fois/foi) fem., and most likely did in the French of his day. People just did not know how to spell...sort of like today.

BTW: Pâté de Foie Gras is another "foie" (liver), masculine.

My dear friend, clearly you haven't immersed yourself deeply enough in Nostradamus' writings and all things Nostradamus as I have. It's obvious to a Master Prediction Interpreter such as myself that Nostradamus used the feminine in this quatrain in order to fool you, the authorities, and others who simply aren't enlightened enough to follow his majestic poetry.

Nostradamus used the feminine so that the authorities would be thrown off track. See, back then they would read it, and say, "A naked woman? In Medieval France? Ehn ehn ehn, clearly the poor fool is delusional, or writing pornography. Shall we arrest him, or shall we go off and finish dying of the plague?"

Clearly you need to immerse yourself in reading Nostradamus for a few months until you can see his brilliance as clearly as I do. After all, neither Nostradamus or Google Translate are ever wrong, everyone knows that! For shame, bon ami, for shame.

Olowkow · 3rd October 2010, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Apology

My dear friend, clearly you haven't immersed yourself deeply enough in Nostradamus' writings and all things Nostradamus as I have....
Clearly you need to immerse yourself in reading Nostradamus for a few months until you can see his brilliance as clearly as I do. After all, neither Nostradamus or Google Translate are ever wrong, everyone knows that! For shame, bon ami, for shame.

Yeah, well you missed the obvious meaning of "suite par fer"...clearly, she was followed on her trip by liver thieves traveling by "chemin de fer", (railroad) since she was behaving like a man, and was fearing "outrage", (being outed) as a transvestite.

Uhm, "passing a river", well, drank too much wine.

I think I'll pass on the "further reading" of Nostradamus.

Skeeve · 3rd October 2010, 03:58 PM

Quote:

... long barrenness... great dame,
... two principal children....female to whom she will have given birth ...danger of death in her
eighteenth year...three males, and one female

None of the bold text has anything to do with Diana whatsoever.

Please explain each one and its relationship to her.

Pretty please.

Rolfe · 3rd October 2010, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Apology

According to Google translate, only the horse was naked, which is entirely in keeping with how we expect a horse to behave...

Yeah. I'm sure I read somewhere that Lady Godiva rode bareback, and the rest was just fevered imagination.

Rolfe.

Akhenaten · 3rd October 2010, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by nchammer326

Am I the only one who saw the title as "Nostradamus Writes LADY GAGA"?

Because that sounds a thousand times more interesting.

When the great queen sees herself conquered,

In 2005, a the age of 19, Stefani (Stefani Germanotta is Lady Gaga's real name) signed a contract with Def Jam Recordings but she was dropped by the label after only three months.

she will show an excess of masculine courage.

The first song she produced [with RedOne] was Boys Boys Boys, a mash-up inspired by Mötley Crüe's Girls, Girls, Girls and AC/DC's T.N.T.

Naked, on horseback, she will pass over the river

In 2006, LG, (who came from Manhattan) started the Stefani Germanotta Band with some friends from NYU. They recorded an EP of their ballads at a studio underneath a liquor store in New Jersey, becoming a local fixture at the downtown Lower East Side club scene.

Her means of transport across the Hudson River is not recorded, but given her heavy involvement with drugs in those years, naked on horseback cannot reasonably be excluded.

pursued by the sword: she will have outraged her faith.

Contrary to her subsequent outré style, the New York Post described her early look as like 'a refugee from Jersey Shore' with 'big black hair, heavy eye makeup and tight, revealing clothes.'

Gaga is a natural brunette, however she bleached her hair blonde.

Apology · 3rd October 2010, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by 23_Tauri

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...t_20050413.jpg

You know how the English are. Englishmen, they all look alike....

Apology · 3rd October 2010, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Olowkow

Yeah, well you missed the obvious meaning of "suite par fer"...clearly, she was followed on her trip by liver thieves traveling by "chemin de fer", (railroad) since she was behaving like a man, and was fearing "outrage", (being outed) as a transvestite.

Uhm, "passing a river", well, drank too much wine.

I think I'll pass on the "further reading" of Nostradamus.

Oh dear, I do so desperately need an apprentice in Predictional Interpretation! Perhaps you could stay awhile and give me your opinion of the following quatrain:

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Century 1 Quatrain 74
Apres sejourne vogueront en Epire
Le grand secours viendra vers Antoche:
Le noir poil crespe tendra fort a l'Empire,
Barbe d'aerain se roustira en broche.

The translation:

Originally Posted by Google Translate

After STAYED will sail in Epirus,
great help coming from around Antioch:
The curly haired tend fort Empire,
Beard aerain be roasted on a spit.

Now I've mislaid my slide rule and my calculator, and I can't possibly Interpret this Prediction before the 2012 deadline without them! I would greatly appreciate your opinion on the meaning of the quoted quatrain. I know you haven't undergone the proper Nostradamus immersion program yet, but you will, you will. You have an innate talent for this kind of thing, and Nostradamus is all the rage this year. You will go far.*

_{_{*For Entertainment purposes only. Interpreter is not legally liable if you do not go far. All rights reserved. $3.99 a minute for the first three minutes of Interpretation, $5.99 a minute after the first three minutes.}}

Ririon · 3rd October 2010, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

its rhetorical to cloud the meaning

Let me get this straight...

1. These writings are vague and colorful in language, so you can interpret them to fit just about anything.

2. It is perfectly OK that most of it doesn't fit at all, since that is done on purpose to "cloud the meaning."

This means that not only can you find some verse for any person or event. It means that ANY part of Nostradamus' writing can be interpreted to fit ANY person or event...

Can anybody think of a more pointless exercise? I mean, even IF Nostradamus knew about every future event in detail, there is no way anybody could find out about a single fact by interpreting his writings according to Rwalsh's rules.

Apology · 3rd October 2010, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by Ririon

Let me get this straight...

1. These writings are vague and colorful in language, so you can interpret them to fit just about anything.

2. It is perfectly OK that most of it doesn't fit at all, since that is done on purpose to "cloud the meaning."

This means that not only can you find some verse for any person or event. It means that ANY part of Nostradamus' writing can be interpreted to fit ANY person or event...

Can anybody think of a more pointless exercise? I mean, even IF Nostradamus knew about every future event in detail, there is no way anybody could find out about a single fact by interpreting his writings according to Rwalsh's rules.

But you don't understand!!! After all the time ~~Ririon~~ Rwalsh has spent on Prediction Interpretation, he/she can't possibly be wrong!!!

Edit: Oops, sorry Ririon

Normal Dude · 3rd October 2010, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

Refrain from attacking Nostradamus as if the man was BS. Some Respect for my spiritual Father would be appreciated.

I think that's a new sig line. I don't think many people bash Nostradamus, they bash the witless followers he has accumulated that make up fantasies whole-cloth out of what he has written.

JohnG · 3rd October 2010, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by Apology

But you don't understand!!! After all the time Ririon has spent on Prediction Interpretation, he/she can't possibly be wrong!!!

Apology I think you owe Ririon?

Rwalsh · 3rd October 2010, 07:29 PM

Lady Godiva is important to our History. That Is why It must be recorded. Becuase it has alot to do with Free Courage, Anything that amounts to free courage is absolutly Gold To nostradamus and thus needs recording.

Rwalsh · 3rd October 2010, 07:31 PM

It was sooo unheard of people, or noble women to just strip of themselves of there cloths and ride nakkid throughout town. What a noble display of sacrifice, masculine courage.

Rwalsh · 3rd October 2010, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by Scott Haley

If Nostradamus predicted Diana's death, why didn't the Nostradamus scholars warn her?

They couldnt, Becuase the messages are too clouded for even them!!!

Rwalsh · 3rd October 2010, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by bookitty

And again I ask, why would Nostradamus care about the modern British Royal family? You have never answered this question.

Its A pivotal mark in the world, the scenario changes- Everything Changes. The New Direction of the Monarch, will there ever be asserted a Queen any longer? Doubtful... IT will be entirely be ruled by Male Faction. It will never return for Queen-ship. Even for the queens ruling, She has less than more power. Its like they come to take away her the swords of power.In both hands she use to hold two swords, now they come to take both of them. Take it from her.

Ladewig · 3rd October 2010, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

It was sooo unheard of people, or noble women to just strip of themselves of there cloths and ride nakkid throughout town. What a noble display of sacrifice, masculine courage.

OK, I give up. You are a troll.

You have been shown that we are talking about a fictional story that predates Nostradamus, and you are still holding out that this quatrain is somehow significant.

I will give you your due. You did have me going. I really believed you were sincere. I am not sure how you trolls keep score, but I will not argue against any points that you scored off of me.

Bye.

. . . . . . . . . . .
My only regret is that the JREF has banned kitten pictures.

Rwalsh · 3rd October 2010, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

OK, I give up. You are a troll.

You have been shown that we are talking about a fictional story that predates Nostradamus, and you are still holding out that this quatrain is somehow significant.

I will give you your due. You did have me going. I really believed you were sincere. I am not sure how you trolls keep score, but I will not argue against any points that you scored off of me.

Bye.

. . . . . . . . . . .
My only regret is that the JREF has banned kitten pictures.

If you read the wiki... It dosnt say Fictional Story. Lady Godiva is a historical Figure, not a fairy tale. Im not a troll either.

If I wanted Attention I go hang in the Art Forums and post paintings. But here... Perhaps if you do not like what you read, you input your skepticism, then you should move on. If it dosnt pertain to your ears then dont listen to it. Im sorry if this dosnt suit your taste. But im sure some are intrested in knowing some knowledge.

Rwalsh · 3rd October 2010, 07:42 PM

Dont Outright BASH me and Nostradamus. Its highly uncalled for. I dont bash you, so please. Respect in the forum would be appreciated.

If there is something Ive done wrong then please dont hesitate to report me.. But I assure you Ive done nothing wrong, Didnt call anyone names and Am not starting and troubles. Ive just been studying nostradamus for years now, And I want to share my research into these matters.

Rwalsh · 3rd October 2010, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by Normal Dude

I think that's a new sig line. I don't think many people bash Nostradamus, they bash the witless followers he has accumulated that make up fantasies whole-cloth out of what he has written.

Yes, And Ive read other peoples work. They will take somethin, without any fact or illustration. Be completly wrong, and speak as if it had something to do with Russia or Iraq or something.

Which To my knowledge in that quatrain you it has names of places like France. So how could this be??? When nostradamus writes names of places in france in some of his quatrains yet people are talking about nuclear bombs in IRAQ.

Yes Normal Dude.. It is pointless to read something without any conclusive facts. PERTAINING to the Quatrains.

The most Important Part of the Book is to read the PREFACE to Cesar Nostradamus. And the Epistle to Henry the II. To me these are the most fundamental, and Essential things you need to Know before Deciphering any of the quatrains. Its something you have to re-read atleast... well. You need to re-read all of it alot.

There ARE RULES and Doctrain you need to know about before Deciphering. You cant just pick any quatrain and decipher it. You got to know which ones are more descriptive. Particularly the names and Descriptions, Not to know times and Dates.

You cant take a Quatrain, and go Blah Blah Blah 9/11., You need Evidence and FACTS.

You also need to know EVERYTHING in the Facts and Evidence to know what it means.

And to say the least...Im sure everyone here has had a Da-javu moment in there lifetime they can remember? Isnt this a form of seeing into the future without knowing it until that moment. Sure these are strange and Odd, but there is a variety of peoples on this earth, not everyone is equal. And Nostradamus had the exception of foresight. I beleive it becuase I expirence some of it myself.

Akhenaten · 3rd October 2010, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

Dont Outright BASH me and Nostradamus.

The 'predictions' of Nostra Dumb-arse are codswallop and worthy of a good BASHing, as are your meaningless decipherings of them.

You, of course, are not, and your inability to differentiate between us BASHing your posts and BASHing you personally is a problem for you to work through, not us.

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

Its highly uncalled for.

Refuting nonsense is ostensibly the Forum's entire raison d'être. Maybe you're in the wrong place.

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

I dont bash you, so please. Respect in the forum would be appreciated.

The drivel you post is an insult to our collective intelligence. Neither the predictions of Nostra Dumb-arse or your ideas concerning them are worthy of any respect.

Perhaps some respect for the Forum would be in order.

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

If there is something Ive done wrong then please dont hesitate to report me..

Your spelling, punctuation, grammar, syntax and general sentence structure are atrocious and have been reported to the relevant authority.

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

But I assure you Ive done nothing wrong, Didnt call anyone names and Am not starting and troubles.

Am too.

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

Ive just been studying nostradamus for years now, And I want to share my research into these matters.

No, you don't really. Trust me on this: you're far better off keeping it to yourself.

Rwalsh · 3rd October 2010, 08:10 PM

[quote=Akhenaten;6402656]The 'predictions' of Nostra Dumb-arse

Thats just horrible. You know, I dont mind Skepticism. But if you are going to call names well

Skepticism dosnt mean to be Verbally abusive..

Akhenaten · 3rd October 2010, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

<gibbersnip>

And to say the least...Im sure everyone here has had a Da-javu moment in there lifetime they can remember?

Interested inn a little wager on that?

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

Isnt this a form of seeing into the future without knowing it until that moment. Sure these are strange and Odd, but there is a variety of peoples on this earth, not everyone is equal.

No matter how strange and Odd things get; no matter how wide the variety of people, there is no such thing as the type of precognition you are trying to describe.

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

And Nostradamus had the exception of foresight.

Foresight is simply knowing that if you stick your hand in a fire you will burn yourself. Nostra Dumb-arse was far from unique in possessing this ability.

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

I beleive it becuase I expirence some of it myself.

Why don't you try the experience of installing a spell checker?

Akhenaten · 3rd October 2010, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

The 'predictions' of Nostra Dumb-arse

Thats just horrible. You know, I dont mind Skepticism. But if you are going to call names well

Skepticism dosnt mean to be Verbally abusive..

It's just not your day, I'm afraid. I'm not a skeptic.

Lucian · 3rd October 2010, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

If you read the wiki... It dosnt say Fictional Story. Lady Godiva is a historical Figure, not a fairy tale. Im not a troll either.

If I wanted Attention I go hang in the Art Forums and post paintings. But here... Perhaps if you do not like what you read, you input your skepticism, then you should move on. If it dosnt pertain to your ears then dont listen to it. Im sorry if this dosnt suit your taste. But im sure some are intrested in knowing some knowledge.

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

It was sooo unheard of people, or noble women to just strip of themselves of there cloths and ride nakkid throughout town. What a noble display of sacrifice, masculine courage.

I'm interested in knowing some knowledge, but unfortunately you are not providing it. Yes, Godgifu was an historical figure, but the story about her riding naked is a legend with no historic validity.

Also, why does it take "masculine" courage to show one's feminine body?

However, since I am interested in knowing some knowledge, I was skimming through the bits of Daniel Donaghue's book on Lady Godiva that are available on Google Books. Looks like an interesting read.

Apology · 3rd October 2010, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by JohnG

Apology I think you owe Ririon?

I do! I picked the wrong user, I meant Rwalsh.

Ririon positively stinks at Predictive Interpretation, definitely not one of Nostradamus' "Chosen"! I can't be blamed for making an error, though, I haven't found my slide rule and calculator yet! I can't possibly be accurate without my slide rule and calculator, you see.

Sean84 · 3rd October 2010, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

*snip*
You need Evidence and FACTS.
*snip*

Please provide your evidence and facts at your earliest possible convenience. So far all you seem to have provided is babble and an unwavering faith in a long dead nut.

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

*snip*
Skepticism dosnt mean to be Verbally abusive..

Clearly not everyone here is a skeptic. In fact it makes it a lot easier to call BS on obvious BS if you avoid declaring yourself a skeptic.

More to the point, if you want to appeal to the skeptics please provide:

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

*snip*
Evidence and FACTS.
*snip*

Rwalsh · 3rd October 2010, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by Sean84

Please provide your evidence and facts at your earliest possible convenience. So far all you seem to have provided is babble and an unwavering faith in a long dead nut.

Clearly not everyone here is a skeptic. In fact it makes it a lot easier to call BS on obvious BS if you avoid declaring yourself a skeptic.

More to the point, if you want to appeal to the skeptics please provide:

ahhhhkay...

Rwalsh · 3rd October 2010, 08:49 PM

Nostradamus Writes...
Century 1 Quatrain 5

They will be driven away for a long drawn out fight.
The countryside will be most grievously troubled.
Town and country will have greater struggle.
Carcassonne and Narbonne will have their hearts tried.

These are actual places in france as descriptive in the wiki.
Havnt Really Deciphered Much of this. But It seems to me that Both Carcassonne and Narbonne maybe allied somehow against invasion. Or perhaps they fought against one another.. I remember reading both Carcassonne and Narbonne and It was really hard for me to decipher the history. Rather its easy just to place the links of the history of the places. I have to come up with a conclusion. But never-the-less. Nostradamus is descriptive in this quatrain.

Other than that it takes hours and hours to research and get a grasp of the idea of what Nostradamus is explaining here. And you know, you pick up any nostradamus book in a library where people try and decipher it, well.. Alot of the Quatrains they are descriptive about actual places.. You hardly ever see reference of the maps in which he is talking about. And its quiet evident here. You dont see me talking about NUCLEAR Bombs in this one as you would if someone else was trying to decipher.. And please, dont even mention about the History Channel and there Proposition of the matter. It is soo bluff..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narbonne

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcassonne

fromdownunder · 3rd October 2010, 08:55 PM

Wow! Nosti actually had a quatrain which named real places. Colour me impressed. I read a book once which had a character eating Breakfast outside of Tiffanys in New York. I looked it up on Wiki and shock upon shock, there is a Tiffinys in New York. I didn't realise it was true, or prophesy, so I'm off the find Holly Golightly.

Norm

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Apology Reader's of the Boden Codex Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,583	I suppose it's not very kind of me to keep all of this prophetic knowledge to myself. To truly understand Nostradamus' meaning, you must first go back to the original French that he wrote, ignoring all the ridiculous and nonsensical English translations that others have put out, since they're all clearly biased. Then, you must find a source of unbiased translation, and what better unbiased source of translation is there than Google Translate, I ask you? There, now you are prepared to understand the real meaning of Nostradamus' otherworldy predictions. I would like to add that the copies of Nostradamus that are currently on the market have badly degraded French transcriptions; you can only get an accurate translation from older copies of Nostradamus' work that you might find laying around the house, at the library, or in the "FREE PLEASE TAKE" pile outside of second-hand bookshops. Please feel free to help me spread the true word of Nostradamus throughout the world, before la fin des temps take us all unaware!!!
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3rd October 2010, 12:23 PM	#162
bookitty Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,532	Originally Posted by Lucian Was the legend of Lady Godiva known in France? Could Nostradamus have gotten the naked ride from the legend to add to his vague drivel? The Godiva legend dates back to the mid 11th century and can be found as a written account in the 12th. Nostradamus was a learned man from the 15th century, he would have had access to the legend. Also, human nature hasn't changed much in 1000 years. The Godiva story - Naked on horseback! Brave woman sacrifices modesty for the sake of peasants. - would have made it to France long before the 1500's.
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3rd October 2010, 12:25 PM	#163
Scott Haley Muse Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 562	If Nostradamus predicted Diana's death, why didn't the Nostradamus scholars warn her?
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3rd October 2010, 12:27 PM	#164
nchammer326 Scholar Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 105	Am I the only one who saw the title as "Nostradamus Writes LADY GAGA"? Because that sounds a thousand times more interesting.
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3rd October 2010, 12:29 PM	#165
bookitty Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,532	Originally Posted by Craig4 How about, if he can really see the future why not write something like "A princess named Diana will get in an accident in a car being driven by a guy blitzed out of his skull while being chased by reporters and die." If he's so great why the word games? There is a school of thought which suggest Nostradamus was referring to lesser events in his own time. Because the players were powerful, he mixed it up in order to deny it if necessary. (Oh no, your grace! My trance was about some other bishop.") Personally, I'm willing to believe that it's some sort of combination. Some of the quatrains were a way for him to safely express dissatisfaction with contemporary events, some were personal musings, some were for effect and some were things that he thought might happen based on his knowledge of human behavior. Plus a little of the attention whoring that seems to accompany most "psychics."
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3rd October 2010, 12:50 PM	#166
Lucian Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,550	Originally Posted by bookitty The Godiva legend dates back to the mid 11th century and can be found as a written account in the 12th. Nostradamus was a learned man from the 15th century, he would have had access to the legend. Also, human nature hasn't changed much in 1000 years. The Godiva story - Naked on horseback! Brave woman sacrifices modesty for the sake of peasants. - would have made it to France long before the 1500's. I know the legend was around by that time and had been for centuries (Matthew Paris, Roger of Wendover), but I wasn't sure how widely it had circulated on the continent.
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3rd October 2010, 01:09 PM	#167
Apology Reader's of the Boden Codex Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,583	Originally Posted by nchammer326 Am I the only one who saw the title as "Nostradamus Writes LADY GAGA"? Because that sounds a thousand times more interesting. Oh, but HE DID! Regardez: Originally Posted by Nostradamus Century III Quatrain 28 De ferre faible & pauvre parentele, par bout & paix parviendra dans l'Empire, Long temps regner une jeune femelle, Qu'oncques en regne n'en survint un pire. The translation: Originally Posted by Google Translate Ferre of low & poor relatives by piece and peace will succeed in the Empire, Long time a young female to reign, not in the realm Qu'oncques came a worse. I mean, you can tell by the way he uses the word Qu'oncques that he's clearly talking about Lady Gaga, low and poor relatives and all. And who is worse than Lady Gaga? Nobody, that's who. It's truly amazing how he could predict the future so far ahead like that.
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3rd October 2010, 01:10 PM	#168
Olowkow Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,829	Originally Posted by Apology According to Google translate, only the horse was naked, which is entirely in keeping with how we expect a horse to behave... But maybe Time was outraged by the horse's lascivious behavior; I suppose he will stop work at Teatime and it will be Teatime all the time until we soothe his outraged sensibilities 86. La grande Royne quand se verra vaincue, Fera exces de masculin courage : Sur cheval, fleuve passera toute nue, Suite par fer, a foy fera outrage. It's old French, but even so, there are so many versions on the web it is hard to know what to think. "toute nue" (naked) must refer to "royne" (queen) since it is a feminine adjective, and "cheval" (horse) is masculine. "Time" and "faith" sound the same in modern French (fois/foi) fem., and most likely did in the French of his day. People just did not know how to spell...sort of like today. BTW: Pâté de Foie Gras is another "foie" (liver), masculine.
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3rd October 2010, 01:28 PM	#169
Craig4 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5,363	Yeah what a bunch of bastards not telling her body guard to lay off the sauce before he got into a car and drove at high speeds. Way to miss a chance to be useful there guys.
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3rd October 2010, 01:43 PM	#170
RobDegraves Muse Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 787	Well, I am somewhat familiar with Michel de Nostredame and I don't think he was much of a prophet nor an astrologer. To begin with, he was poorly seen by his fellow astrologists for being too lazy to do proper charts. He would generally insist that his clients provide him with their own charts so he would not have to calculate them. More importantly, when it came to his prophecies, Nostradamus was mostly a plagiarist. For example, many of his prophecies come from the "Mirabilis Liber"(Mirabilis liber qui prophetias revelationesque, necnon res mirandas, preteritas, presentes et futuras, aperte demonstrat) which was a collection of prophesies that was actually on the church's list of prohibited texts. Since most of the people that read his almanacs were not cognizant of such texts, it all looked great. (the complete text of the "Mirabilis Liber" is online btw, if you wish to read it) Not to mention of course, that his quatrains are vague enough that they could be applied to any circumstance. I would bet that I could take the Simpsons and use that to predict most major events, past, present or future. I believe there are a number of sites who claim that the Simpsons predicted 9/11, Prophetic... or something more sinister?
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3rd October 2010, 01:56 PM	#171
Ladewig Hipster alien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: not measurable Posts: 16,827	Originally Posted by Rwalsh I shall post Anew! Everyday.. or try to.. Why? More importantly, as I said in the other thread, we don't give a rat's ass about how you think Nostradamus predicted things that occurred before 2010. If you want to impress us, you will need to use the master's prescience to post specific predictions of future unforeseen events that you cannot control. If you post them and they come true, you will have our attention (and that is what you came here for, isn't it?). ______________________________ Another poster with the random ellipsis and random capitalization. I'm pretty sure I've heard this story before and know how it ends.
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3rd October 2010, 02:25 PM	#172
Apology Reader's of the Boden Codex Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,583	Originally Posted by Olowkow 86. La grande Royne quand se verra vaincue, Fera exces de masculin courage : Sur cheval, fleuve passera toute nue, Suite par fer, a foy fera outrage. It's old French, but even so, there are so many versions on the web it is hard to know what to think. "toute nue" (naked) must refer to "royne" (queen) since it is a feminine adjective, and "cheval" (horse) is masculine. "Time" and "faith" sound the same in modern French (fois/foi) fem., and most likely did in the French of his day. People just did not know how to spell...sort of like today. BTW: Pâté de Foie Gras is another "foie" (liver), masculine. My dear friend, clearly you haven't immersed yourself deeply enough in Nostradamus' writings and all things Nostradamus as I have. It's obvious to a Master Prediction Interpreter such as myself that Nostradamus used the feminine in this quatrain in order to fool you, the authorities, and others who simply aren't enlightened enough to follow his majestic poetry. Nostradamus used the feminine so that the authorities would be thrown off track. See, back then they would read it, and say, "A naked woman? In Medieval France? Ehn ehn ehn, clearly the poor fool is delusional, or writing pornography. Shall we arrest him, or shall we go off and finish dying of the plague?" Clearly you need to immerse yourself in reading Nostradamus for a few months until you can see his brilliance as clearly as I do. After all, neither Nostradamus or Google Translate are ever wrong, everyone knows that! For shame, bon ami, for shame.
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3rd October 2010, 03:26 PM	#173
Olowkow Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,829	Originally Posted by Apology My dear friend, clearly you haven't immersed yourself deeply enough in Nostradamus' writings and all things Nostradamus as I have.... Clearly you need to immerse yourself in reading Nostradamus for a few months until you can see his brilliance as clearly as I do. After all, neither Nostradamus or Google Translate are ever wrong, everyone knows that! For shame, bon ami, for shame. Yeah, well you missed the obvious meaning of "suite par fer"...clearly, she was followed on her trip by liver thieves traveling by "chemin de fer", (railroad) since she was behaving like a man, and was fearing "outrage", (being outed) as a transvestite. Uhm, "passing a river", well, drank too much wine. I think I'll pass on the "further reading" of Nostradamus.
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3rd October 2010, 03:58 PM	#174
Skeeve violent pacifist Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: The Bazaar Posts: 181	Quote: ... long barrenness... great dame, ... two principal children....female to whom she will have given birth ...danger of death in her eighteenth year...three males, and one female None of the bold text has anything to do with Diana whatsoever. Please explain each one and its relationship to her. Pretty please.
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3rd October 2010, 05:56 PM	#175
Rolfe Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NT 150 511 Posts: 34,340	Originally Posted by Apology According to Google translate, only the horse was naked, which is entirely in keeping with how we expect a horse to behave... Yeah. I'm sure I read somewhere that Lady Godiva rode bareback, and the rest was just fevered imagination. Rolfe.
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3rd October 2010, 06:04 PM	#176
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Pither Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,682	Originally Posted by nchammer326 Am I the only one who saw the title as "Nostradamus Writes LADY GAGA"? Because that sounds a thousand times more interesting. When the great queen sees herself conquered, In 2005, a the age of 19, Stefani (Stefani Germanotta is Lady Gaga's real name) signed a contract with Def Jam Recordings but she was dropped by the label after only three months. she will show an excess of masculine courage. The first song she produced [with RedOne] was Boys Boys Boys, a mash-up inspired by Mötley Crüe's Girls, Girls, Girls and AC/DC's T.N.T. Naked, on horseback, she will pass over the river In 2006, LG, (who came from Manhattan) started the Stefani Germanotta Band with some friends from NYU. They recorded an EP of their ballads at a studio underneath a liquor store in New Jersey, becoming a local fixture at the downtown Lower East Side club scene. Her means of transport across the Hudson River is not recorded, but given her heavy involvement with drugs in those years, naked on horseback cannot reasonably be excluded. pursued by the sword: she will have outraged her faith. Contrary to her subsequent outré style, the New York Post described her early look as like 'a refugee from Jersey Shore' with 'big black hair, heavy eye makeup and tight, revealing clothes.' Gaga is a natural brunette, however she bleached her hair blonde.
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3rd October 2010, 06:10 PM	#177
Apology Reader's of the Boden Codex Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,583	Originally Posted by 23_Tauri http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...t_20050413.jpg You know how the English are. Englishmen, they all look alike....
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3rd October 2010, 06:47 PM	#178
Apology Reader's of the Boden Codex Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,583	Originally Posted by Olowkow Yeah, well you missed the obvious meaning of "suite par fer"...clearly, she was followed on her trip by liver thieves traveling by "chemin de fer", (railroad) since she was behaving like a man, and was fearing "outrage", (being outed) as a transvestite. Uhm, "passing a river", well, drank too much wine. I think I'll pass on the "further reading" of Nostradamus. Oh dear, I do so desperately need an apprentice in Predictional Interpretation! Perhaps you could stay awhile and give me your opinion of the following quatrain: Originally Posted by Nostradamus Century 1 Quatrain 74 Apres sejourne vogueront en Epire Le grand secours viendra vers Antoche: Le noir poil crespe tendra fort a l'Empire, Barbe d'aerain se roustira en broche. The translation: Originally Posted by Google Translate After STAYED will sail in Epirus, great help coming from around Antioch: The curly haired tend fort Empire, Beard aerain be roasted on a spit. Now I've mislaid my slide rule and my calculator, and I can't possibly Interpret this Prediction before the 2012 deadline without them! I would greatly appreciate your opinion on the meaning of the quoted quatrain. I know you haven't undergone the proper Nostradamus immersion program yet, but you will, you will. You have an innate talent for this kind of thing, and Nostradamus is all the rage this year. You will go far.* _{_{*For Entertainment purposes only. Interpreter is not legally liable if you do not go far. All rights reserved. $3.99 a minute for the first three minutes of Interpretation, $5.99 a minute after the first three minutes.}}
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3rd October 2010, 06:52 PM	#179
Ririon Cool cat Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 2,063	Originally Posted by Rwalsh its rhetorical to cloud the meaning Let me get this straight... 1. These writings are vague and colorful in language, so you can interpret them to fit just about anything. 2. It is perfectly OK that most of it doesn't fit at all, since that is done on purpose to "cloud the meaning." This means that not only can you find some verse for any person or event. It means that ANY part of Nostradamus' writing can be interpreted to fit ANY person or event... Can anybody think of a more pointless exercise? I mean, even IF Nostradamus knew about every future event in detail, there is no way anybody could find out about a single fact by interpreting his writings according to Rwalsh's rules.
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3rd October 2010, 06:56 PM	#180
Apology Reader's of the Boden Codex Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,583	Originally Posted by Ririon Let me get this straight... 1. These writings are vague and colorful in language, so you can interpret them to fit just about anything. 2. It is perfectly OK that most of it doesn't fit at all, since that is done on purpose to "cloud the meaning." This means that not only can you find some verse for any person or event. It means that ANY part of Nostradamus' writing can be interpreted to fit ANY person or event... Can anybody think of a more pointless exercise? I mean, even IF Nostradamus knew about every future event in detail, there is no way anybody could find out about a single fact by interpreting his writings according to Rwalsh's rules. But you don't understand!!! After all the time ~~Ririon~~ Rwalsh has spent on Prediction Interpretation, he/she can't possibly be wrong!!! Edit: Oops, sorry Ririon
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3rd October 2010, 07:11 PM	#181
Normal Dude Space Shuttle Door Gunner Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: W/ The Evil Council Posts: 3,959	Originally Posted by Rwalsh Refrain from attacking Nostradamus as if the man was BS. Some Respect for my spiritual Father would be appreciated. I think that's a new sig line. I don't think many people bash Nostradamus, they bash the witless followers he has accumulated that make up fantasies whole-cloth out of what he has written.
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3rd October 2010, 07:13 PM	#182
JohnG Pedantic Bore Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Abandon All Hope Posts: 4,398	Originally Posted by Apology But you don't understand!!! After all the time Ririon has spent on Prediction Interpretation, he/she can't possibly be wrong!!! Apology I think you owe Ririon?
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3rd October 2010, 07:29 PM	#183
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	Lady Godiva is important to our History. That Is why It must be recorded. Becuase it has alot to do with Free Courage, Anything that amounts to free courage is absolutly Gold To nostradamus and thus needs recording.

3rd October 2010, 07:31 PM	#184
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	It was sooo unheard of people, or noble women to just strip of themselves of there cloths and ride nakkid throughout town. What a noble display of sacrifice, masculine courage.

3rd October 2010, 07:33 PM	#185
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	Originally Posted by Scott Haley If Nostradamus predicted Diana's death, why didn't the Nostradamus scholars warn her? They couldnt, Becuase the messages are too clouded for even them!!!

3rd October 2010, 07:35 PM	#186
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	Originally Posted by bookitty And again I ask, why would Nostradamus care about the modern British Royal family? You have never answered this question. Its A pivotal mark in the world, the scenario changes- Everything Changes. The New Direction of the Monarch, will there ever be asserted a Queen any longer? Doubtful... IT will be entirely be ruled by Male Faction. It will never return for Queen-ship. Even for the queens ruling, She has less than more power. Its like they come to take away her the swords of power.In both hands she use to hold two swords, now they come to take both of them. Take it from her.
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3rd October 2010, 07:37 PM	#187
Ladewig Hipster alien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: not measurable Posts: 16,827	Originally Posted by Rwalsh It was sooo unheard of people, or noble women to just strip of themselves of there cloths and ride nakkid throughout town. What a noble display of sacrifice, masculine courage. OK, I give up. You are a troll. You have been shown that we are talking about a fictional story that predates Nostradamus, and you are still holding out that this quatrain is somehow significant. I will give you your due. You did have me going. I really believed you were sincere. I am not sure how you trolls keep score, but I will not argue against any points that you scored off of me. Bye. . . . . . . . . . . . My only regret is that the JREF has banned kitten pictures.
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3rd October 2010, 07:39 PM	#188
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	Originally Posted by Ladewig OK, I give up. You are a troll. You have been shown that we are talking about a fictional story that predates Nostradamus, and you are still holding out that this quatrain is somehow significant. I will give you your due. You did have me going. I really believed you were sincere. I am not sure how you trolls keep score, but I will not argue against any points that you scored off of me. Bye. . . . . . . . . . . . My only regret is that the JREF has banned kitten pictures. If you read the wiki... It dosnt say Fictional Story. Lady Godiva is a historical Figure, not a fairy tale. Im not a troll either. If I wanted Attention I go hang in the Art Forums and post paintings. But here... Perhaps if you do not like what you read, you input your skepticism, then you should move on. If it dosnt pertain to your ears then dont listen to it. Im sorry if this dosnt suit your taste. But im sure some are intrested in knowing some knowledge.
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3rd October 2010, 07:42 PM	#189
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	Dont Outright BASH me and Nostradamus. Its highly uncalled for. I dont bash you, so please. Respect in the forum would be appreciated. If there is something Ive done wrong then please dont hesitate to report me.. But I assure you Ive done nothing wrong, Didnt call anyone names and Am not starting and troubles. Ive just been studying nostradamus for years now, And I want to share my research into these matters.
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3rd October 2010, 07:48 PM	#190
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	Originally Posted by Normal Dude I think that's a new sig line. I don't think many people bash Nostradamus, they bash the witless followers he has accumulated that make up fantasies whole-cloth out of what he has written. Yes, And Ive read other peoples work. They will take somethin, without any fact or illustration. Be completly wrong, and speak as if it had something to do with Russia or Iraq or something. Which To my knowledge in that quatrain you it has names of places like France. So how could this be??? When nostradamus writes names of places in france in some of his quatrains yet people are talking about nuclear bombs in IRAQ. Yes Normal Dude.. It is pointless to read something without any conclusive facts. PERTAINING to the Quatrains. The most Important Part of the Book is to read the PREFACE to Cesar Nostradamus. And the Epistle to Henry the II. To me these are the most fundamental, and Essential things you need to Know before Deciphering any of the quatrains. Its something you have to re-read atleast... well. You need to re-read all of it alot. There ARE RULES and Doctrain you need to know about before Deciphering. You cant just pick any quatrain and decipher it. You got to know which ones are more descriptive. Particularly the names and Descriptions, Not to know times and Dates. You cant take a Quatrain, and go Blah Blah Blah 9/11., You need Evidence and FACTS. You also need to know EVERYTHING in the Facts and Evidence to know what it means. And to say the least...Im sure everyone here has had a Da-javu moment in there lifetime they can remember? Isnt this a form of seeing into the future without knowing it until that moment. Sure these are strange and Odd, but there is a variety of peoples on this earth, not everyone is equal. And Nostradamus had the exception of foresight. I beleive it becuase I expirence some of it myself.
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3rd October 2010, 08:04 PM	#191
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Pither Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,682	Originally Posted by Rwalsh Dont Outright BASH me and Nostradamus. The 'predictions' of Nostra Dumb-arse are codswallop and worthy of a good BASHing, as are your meaningless decipherings of them. You, of course, are not, and your inability to differentiate between us BASHing your posts and BASHing you personally is a problem for you to work through, not us. Originally Posted by Rwalsh Its highly uncalled for. Refuting nonsense is ostensibly the Forum's entire raison d'être. Maybe you're in the wrong place. Originally Posted by Rwalsh I dont bash you, so please. Respect in the forum would be appreciated. The drivel you post is an insult to our collective intelligence. Neither the predictions of Nostra Dumb-arse or your ideas concerning them are worthy of any respect. Perhaps some respect for the Forum would be in order. Originally Posted by Rwalsh If there is something Ive done wrong then please dont hesitate to report me.. Your spelling, punctuation, grammar, syntax and general sentence structure are atrocious and have been reported to the relevant authority. Originally Posted by Rwalsh But I assure you Ive done nothing wrong, Didnt call anyone names and Am not starting and troubles. Am too. Originally Posted by Rwalsh Ive just been studying nostradamus for years now, And I want to share my research into these matters. No, you don't really. Trust me on this: you're far better off keeping it to yourself.
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3rd October 2010, 08:10 PM	#192
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	[quote=Akhenaten;6402656]The 'predictions' of Nostra Dumb-arse Thats just horrible. You know, I dont mind Skepticism. But if you are going to call names well Skepticism dosnt mean to be Verbally abusive..

3rd October 2010, 08:18 PM	#193
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Pither Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,682	Originally Posted by Rwalsh <gibbersnip> And to say the least...Im sure everyone here has had a Da-javu moment in there lifetime they can remember? Interested inn a little wager on that? Originally Posted by Rwalsh Isnt this a form of seeing into the future without knowing it until that moment. Sure these are strange and Odd, but there is a variety of peoples on this earth, not everyone is equal. No matter how strange and Odd things get; no matter how wide the variety of people, there is no such thing as the type of precognition you are trying to describe. Originally Posted by Rwalsh And Nostradamus had the exception of foresight. Foresight is simply knowing that if you stick your hand in a fire you will burn yourself. Nostra Dumb-arse was far from unique in possessing this ability. Originally Posted by Rwalsh I beleive it becuase I expirence some of it myself. Why don't you try the experience of installing a spell checker?
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3rd October 2010, 08:19 PM	#194
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Pither Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,682	Originally Posted by Rwalsh Originally Posted by Akhenaten The 'predictions' of Nostra Dumb-arse Thats just horrible. You know, I dont mind Skepticism. But if you are going to call names well Skepticism dosnt mean to be Verbally abusive.. It's just not your day, I'm afraid. I'm not a skeptic.
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3rd October 2010, 08:27 PM	#195
Lucian Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,550	Originally Posted by Rwalsh If you read the wiki... It dosnt say Fictional Story. Lady Godiva is a historical Figure, not a fairy tale. Im not a troll either. If I wanted Attention I go hang in the Art Forums and post paintings. But here... Perhaps if you do not like what you read, you input your skepticism, then you should move on. If it dosnt pertain to your ears then dont listen to it. Im sorry if this dosnt suit your taste. But im sure some are intrested in knowing some knowledge. Originally Posted by Rwalsh It was sooo unheard of people, or noble women to just strip of themselves of there cloths and ride nakkid throughout town. What a noble display of sacrifice, masculine courage. I'm interested in knowing some knowledge, but unfortunately you are not providing it. Yes, Godgifu was an historical figure, but the story about her riding naked is a legend with no historic validity. Also, why does it take "masculine" courage to show one's feminine body? However, since I am interested in knowing some knowledge, I was skimming through the bits of Daniel Donaghue's book on Lady Godiva that are available on Google Books. Looks like an interesting read.
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