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The things that strike me about that thread are how patient everyone was and what brilliant mathematicians we have on this board (not me). It never would have occurred to me to attack George's claim on a mathematical level, and by page 5 they had figured out the fatal mathematical flaw in George's code.
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"When I began to talk with him, I could not help thinking that he was not really wise, although he was thought wise by many, and wiser still by himself; and I went and tried to explain to him that he thought himself wise, but was not really wise; and the consequence was that he hated me, and his enmity was shared by several who were present and heard me." - Plato, Apology "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." - Carl Sagan |
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I wasnt around, I never saw that thread. And there isnt an epic I'm into at the moment so..... see what you did? No cookies from me!
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Imagine if George had embraced Nostradumbass as well as the Corn Gods and incorporated the quatrains into his . . . whatever it is.
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If Rwelsh didn't leave I was going to suggest to him that he should seek out some professional advice. He did say that he sees and talks to the dead so called seer in his dreams and all he seems to do with his time is interpret a dead guys scribbling.
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"When I began to talk with him, I could not help thinking that he was not really wise, although he was thought wise by many, and wiser still by himself; and I went and tried to explain to him that he thought himself wise, but was not really wise; and the consequence was that he hated me, and his enmity was shared by several who were present and heard me." - Plato, Apology "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." - Carl Sagan |
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Well, I'm not sure he's actually left (yet); he is on an enforced 3-day break.
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Century 1 Quatrain 42
The tenth day of the April Calends, calculated in Gothic fashion is revived again by wicked people. The fire is put out and the diabolic gathering seek the bones of the demon of Psellus. ![]() Michael Psellos (left) with his student, Byzantine Emperor, Michael VII Doukas. Byzantine emperor from 1071 to 1078. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_VII_Doukas Although still advised by Michael Psellos and John Doukas, Michael VII became increasingly reliant on his finance minister Nikephoritzes. The emperor's chief interests, shaped by Psellos, were in academic pursuits, and he allowed Nikephoritzes to increase both taxation and luxury spending without properly financing the army. The underpaid army tended to mutiny Its says clearly that The emperor's chief interests, shaped by Psellos. In other Words, Psellos was really the consecutive of the Emperors ruling, Through Psellos- He played the pivotal outcome of its kingdom. |
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Sorry, run that by me again. What do you see as being the 'hits' in that prophecy? All I can see is that the name nearly matches. Where do the bones of the demon, or the tenth day of the April Calends, come in? This is like that Hitler/Hister thing, isn't it, grasping at straws.
ETA: And of course, looking at the dates, it's not even a prophecy. Have I got this backwards, that you're actually showing that these prophecies are such nonsense that Nostradamus couldn't even predict the past? |
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Where is this date mentioned in your fanciful decipherment below and what the hell is a "Gothic fashion" calendar? What wicked people would these be? The Byzantines? They weren't so bad. What fire? What diabolic gathering? This is clearly the line on which your decipherment has focussed solely, it appears, on you having been able to dredge through the annals of history to come up with a similar-sounding name. However, the Michael Psellos whom you claim as the star of this quatrain was a historian, philosopher and advisor to emperors - certainly no demon. And his bones are most likely hidden forever in an anonymous and unmarked monk's grave, given that he likely ended his days in a monastry after retiring from a long and successful carreer in the Byzantine court. Let's gve the last word to Archbishop Theophylaktos of Bulgaria who wrote a letter to Psellos's brother comforting him on the death of Michael saying that, "Your brother has not died, but has departed to God released of both a painful life and disease." Some demon. Irrelevant nonsense. Even if this poorly-worded bit of dross was true, what realationship are you claiming it has with the quatrain above? And finally, as zooterkin points out, Michael Psellos was born in 1017 or 1018 and died in 1096, while Nostradumbarse wrote The Prophecies during the 1550s, so even if your quatrain is talking about the same dude, it represents nothing more than a failed postdiction. |
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As I said above, what people would find impressive would be if you could "decipher" some of Nostradamus's writings so as to successfully predict a future event rather than torture them into fitting something that has already happened. If you're going to suggest that Nostradamus had the ability to write about events that had already happened I doubt that anyone will disagree with you. After all, this is hardly an unusual ability. |
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Rwalsh,
I'm going to make this easy for you. Is there any event that Nostradamus predicted where someone was able to warn of the event before it happened? I'm not talking about something happens, you go back read a bit and then say Nostradamus predicted that. Did he say there would be an earthquake on a certain day and it happened? Anything like that? |
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Yes. One of them did occur... Since then I have not been able to Locate anything else in particular. Earthquake that happen in 2008. Other than that, Ive not been given anything else. Hence why... Im starting at Century I.. and not Century X.
So in this Im trying to find anything that may relate to the future again. Nostradamus wrote things in his work that involves both past present and future- |
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Fixed That For You.
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People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... timey wimey... stuff. |
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Jadey (in RvB game thread): I just want to take a moment to commend Arth on his role as Parasitic Alien Tumor. I think he really connected with the character and there were times when I forgot that he was just acting. That's the kind of talent that you can't teach. |
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So, was the quatraine "deciphered" (I gagged as I typed the word) before or after the earthquake?
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I'm afraid that fries do not come with that...No fries for anyone, unless the fries are made out of wood
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Wait a minute! As The World Turns was cancelled due to poor ratings, and the last episode aired on Sept. 17, 2010, so I guess this is one of those predictions of Nostradamus' that can never come true now! D'oh Oh wait, if Nostradamus is wrong...and the famine isn't coming....that means fries for everybody! YAAAY!
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Before Infact. It was a quatrain I was obsessed about for 2 years prior to the event occurring.. The message seemed very important at the time. Concidering in the quatrain it had stated "Millennial Age" which is of course.. our time.
Bookitty.. I didn't get involved with Nostradamus works out of personal keen interest. Infact, I hate reading books! I stumbled upon it in a library (Not that I goto libraries alot, but I was homeless at the time during the winter) was young.. 20years,. on the back of this book it was written that, 500 years in our millennium the deciphered would arrive. This was on the back of the book... Then I thought to myself- well ive always felt I had a strong connection with prophesying myself. I never took Nostradamus serious before- I was a Skeptic just like you... As soon as I opened the book and began to read- The writings set off something in me that ive yerned for, the words I love reading... intrigues me. I always felt that there was someone soo much wiser out there who was suppose to teach me the ways, and call me a Son. I call him my spiritual father. And if its true that Nostradamus drew the Lost books image, He also depicts the man in the middle descriptively. To the right- The spiritual hand Holding the Scroll, The Quatrains- Or the message to the decipher- And perhaps the man to the left with the crown Is the younger Nostradamus looking proud over the one who prophicises. Black haired man, Likes to wear black hoodies- likes to decipher Nostradamus. ![]() ![]() I find that In Cesars Portrait of Nostradamus, there are some flaws in this painting.. I should probably render a better one of him, just a few technicals that can be approved on. thats all. |
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Uh oh, I'm afraid that Nostradamus has bad news for Justin Bieber as well...
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Century X
74 The year of the great seventh number accomplished, It will appear at the time of the games of slaughter: Not far from the great millennial age, When the buried will go out from their tombs. At the time... My decipher of this quatrain was very set on the China Olympic games Held in 2008. The Seventh number Accomplished from not far from the Great Millenial age of 2000 means... that that 2007 accomplished meaning 2008. The Games of Slaughter is conveyed in such a manner that a month before the olympic games.. A earthquake in China 69,197 are confirmed dead, including 68,636 in Sichuan province, and 374,176 injured, with 18,222 listed as missing.[7] The earthquake left about 4.8 million people homeless,[15] though the number could be as high as 11 million.. about $146.5 billion over the next three years to rebuild areas ravaged by the earthquake. If only the Chinese Government would put in 146 billion restructuring the peoples homes against earthquakes, you can save billions of dollars in the long run and the unfortunate death of innocent victims. So greed- isnt always the best thing in politics obviously. So being Buried, and crushed to Death. Like Nostradamus Predicted! Shouldn't be let go lightly. Only I was wrong on one Calculation........ I thought that perhaps the stadium would have maybe collapsed crushing and burying the people rather than of natural causes. Either way- You were one month away from the Olympic games. By 1 month. This all happen to prove my legitimate reason to beleive in Nostradamus work and to fully carryout what is essential into understanding why. Sichuan earthquake http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Sichuan_earthquake This Quatrain alone is the only hard Evidence of my deciphering... Other than grasping and understanding the quatrains through literal study and observations- like gathering the relative facts of places and names.. So really Did I predict this Event?? Not entirely, but I was close as to understanding. by 1 month. Perhaps what he was trying to say was Not far from the great- or perhaps.. Not far from the games. The Olympic China games which they would hold a month after the earthquake A MELLENIUM ONLY HAPPENS EVERY THOUSAND YEARS. So when Someone like Nostradamus Talks about MELLENIUM. You know Something Is going Down- I damm well knew something big was going to happen and that people were going to get Crushed to death. Alot of People. Im to blame for not being Smarter- of being A complete failure. I should be 10 times smarter and successful, way more successful. But Im not- Im a failure IM Pathetic. Ive changed. my whole outlook is miserable. Up to a few months ago- I joined some Racist website- So- Let the skepticism Begin, Im getting use to you Peoples mockings We live in the Shadow of the Valley of Death. You know what that means dont you? Well I dont know what It means but if I had to guess what It means, We Shadow death- The Valley is the people And All its living things |
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Why? The Munich Olympics could be far more recognised as the "Games of Slaughter" than the games held in China.
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The Jokes and Mocking End here. What Part are you people having a hard time Grasping
Nostradamus May have not Predicted EVERYTHINHG. But he Certainly knew ALOT. Not all of his Writings like Stated in the PREFACE THAT HE WROTE, DEALS WITH CURRENT OR FUTURE EVENTS. |
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Sounds like Revelations. Pure gibberish.
It? What it? Who said anything about an it? What's an it? Screw it, I'm thoroughly intrigued. I will pay any price for an it. I don't have much money, do you accept interesting trades? Oh, and how many people died while participating in the Olympic games? Which calendar? Guess what... An infinite number of millennial ages came and went while I typed this. Show me the zombies. Can't? Fail. *snipped the rest since:* *more snippage* |
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Were they Crushed to death? Carried out of there Tombs?? You know what a Tomb is right??? Tomb is a burial Chamber.
A THOUSAND YEARS IS A MELLENIUM! IT HAPPENS IN THE MELLENIUUUUMMMM THE GREAT MELLENIAL AGE IS 2000 Were talking about Nostradamus period of 1500's here.. When He speaks of the Mellenium you know it means the year 2000 and onward- You Skeptics sure are Bold., Even when you are Proven Highly Wrong your still think you are 100 percent right without even being open free-thinkers to any new ideas other than your own. HECK I COULD HAVE EVEN DREW PICTURES OF THE POOR CHINA PEOPLE BEING CRUSHED TO DEATH BEFORE IT EVER HAPPENING YA THIS IS MY PAINTING YA I DO ONE EVERY DAY OR SO
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uuummm, you do understand the meaning of "Carried out of there Tombs". It is the opposite of being entombed, which is what happened to the victims of this (and other earthquakes. OUT is not the same word as IN. It is actually ther opposite.
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I agree that this has changed, and people now define it as something else, but how was a man made year "2,000" invented by a vertically challenged Monk who got his sums wrong 1,500 years ago, and was not even in general use when Nosti wrote stuff relevant to anything? 2,000 years since what? And don't say the birth of Jesus, you will only embarass yourself further. Norm |
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What are you talking about? Your going on the Desciptions that the Christians made up of the return of jesus? Ya I also heard when Jesus returns to earth, he is a theif and a Homeless Bum
The Year 2000 is the Millennial AGE HELLO? Its not the year 1000 is it? NO its the year 2000. The Same year- Millennium that Nostradamus writes a bunch of times pertaining to OUR FUTURE. I wish, For me right now to be right in front of you so you could hear the exact raging words from my mouth. But ITS NO USE- I WANT TO CALL ALL OF YOU SO MANY VULGAR NAMES- that Im willing to remain silent as to putting these on Paper. ITS OBVIOUSLY A WASTE OF TIME FOR ME, Speaking to the WEAK SENSE Like nostradamus has warned me about- speaking to Them- to you And I dont care if your name is Norm or Jack, Or Dick. I dont see why you have to post your name everytime you make a comment./ its IRRELIVANT Dont Expect from me to reply Here AFTER- I shall post, anew tomorrow. |
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