No need for all this invasive airport security

Thunder · 21st November 2010, 04:07 PM

Easy solution to all this nonesense: just allow people to go through a thorough pre-flight background check prosess, so we know you are not a threat to security.

Didn't we already have a system like this in place years ago...that allowed folks to go through a pre-flight background check weeks and months before their flight? That way when they got to the airport, all they had to do was prove their identity, and bang....you go through wish just a metal detector.

I'm happy to have the TSA do a background check on me, so that I can jump through security and avoid the anal/testicular probe. I already had a NYPD background check years ago and came through just fine.

Soapy Sam · 21st November 2010, 04:41 PM

I'll take the poke in the nutsack thanks.

korenyx · 21st November 2010, 06:27 PM

Yes, I felt very safe after those background checks. All those six-month old terrorists on the no-fly list. Never know when you might get gummed to death.

AnnoyingPony · 21st November 2010, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Thunder

Easy solution to all this nonesense: just allow people to go through a thorough pre-flight background check prosess, so we know you are not a threat to security.

Didn't we already have a system like this in place years ago...that allowed folks to go through a pre-flight background check weeks and months before their flight? That way when they got to the airport, all they had to do was prove their identity, and bang....you go through wish just a metal detector.

I'm happy to have the TSA do a background check on me, so that I can jump through security and avoid the anal/testicular probe. I already had a NYPD background check years ago and came through just fine.

Amen to that!

Babbylonian · 21st November 2010, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Thunder

I'm happy to have the TSA do a background check on me, so that I can jump through security and avoid the anal/testicular probe. I already had a NYPD background check years ago and came through just fine.

1) The costs would be prohibitive if they do real background checks rather than just querying criminal and credit databases.
2) If they're just querying databases, how are they going to turn up terrorists? They're not the sort of criminals who start out torturing small animals then move up through escalating levels of violence. It's usually about a [stupid] ideology and their "big crime" might be the only one they ever commit.
3) I don't want a bunch of sods who barely graduated high school digging through my background and putting that information in their database just because I want to go on a trip.
4) See #3 for emphasis.

Much as I dislike them on principle, intrusive body and luggage searches make more sense than background checks.

DallasDad · 21st November 2010, 07:40 PM

What's wrong with just handing out a ceramic knife to each passenger?

themusicteacher · 21st November 2010, 08:07 PM

I'm voting for: everyone fly's naked.

Emperor_Gestahl · 21st November 2010, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by DallasDad

What's wrong with just handing out a ceramic knife to each passenger?

Too logical, also difficult to charge taxpayers thousands of dollars per knife. Gotta be proprietary or no one gets rich, and then what would be the point?

Corsair 115 · 21st November 2010, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by themusicteacher

I'm voting for: everyone fly's naked.

You've hit upon the real reason for the TSA screenings: it's a conspiracy by nudists to have their agenda pushed on everyone!

followmycaravan · 22nd November 2010, 01:47 AM

I believe the pre check would not solve anything. The current regulation is acceptable at my point of view, as long as the checker is not a perv

Aepervius · 22nd November 2010, 03:25 AM

Originally Posted by Thunder

Easy solution to all this nonesense: just allow people to go through a thorough pre-flight background check prosess, so we know you are not a threat to security.

Didn't we already have a system like this in place years ago...that allowed folks to go through a pre-flight background check weeks and months before their flight? That way when they got to the airport, all they had to do was prove their identity, and bang....you go through wish just a metal detector.

I'm happy to have the TSA do a background check on me, so that I can jump through security and avoid the anal/testicular probe. I already had a NYPD background check years ago and came through just fine.

If you meant the CAPS I criteria, they were not a background check, they jsut looked at the history of the pax. If he paid CC, and flew business with baggage, he had a positive (no need for further inspection) score. But if you flew with cash, without baggage, eco, you had a negative score (flag him for rectal inspection).

much, much too easy to game.

Aepervius · 22nd November 2010, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by themusicteacher

I'm voting for: everyone fly's naked.

OK, I'll fly *in* the USA, but out of the USA or dom flight, I would rather take a boat/car thank you.

21st November 2010, 04:07 PM	#1
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queens Posts: 34,947	No need for all this invasive airport security Easy solution to all this nonesense: just allow people to go through a thorough pre-flight background check prosess, so we know you are not a threat to security. Didn't we already have a system like this in place years ago...that allowed folks to go through a pre-flight background check weeks and months before their flight? That way when they got to the airport, all they had to do was prove their identity, and bang....you go through wish just a metal detector. I'm happy to have the TSA do a background check on me, so that I can jump through security and avoid the anal/testicular probe. I already had a NYPD background check years ago and came through just fine.

21st November 2010, 04:41 PM	#2
Soapy Sam NLH Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 25,885	I'll take the poke in the nutsack thanks.
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21st November 2010, 06:43 PM	#5
Babbylonian Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lake Oswego, OR Posts: 4,498	Originally Posted by Thunder I'm happy to have the TSA do a background check on me, so that I can jump through security and avoid the anal/testicular probe. I already had a NYPD background check years ago and came through just fine. 1) The costs would be prohibitive if they do real background checks rather than just querying criminal and credit databases. 2) If they're just querying databases, how are they going to turn up terrorists? They're not the sort of criminals who start out torturing small animals then move up through escalating levels of violence. It's usually about a [stupid] ideology and their "big crime" might be the only one they ever commit. 3) I don't want a bunch of sods who barely graduated high school digging through my background and putting that information in their database just because I want to go on a trip. 4) See #3 for emphasis. Much as I dislike them on principle, intrusive body and luggage searches make more sense than background checks.
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21st November 2010, 07:40 PM	#6
DallasDad Muse Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 688	What's wrong with just handing out a ceramic knife to each passenger?
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21st November 2010, 09:46 PM	#8
Emperor_Gestahl Muse Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 779	Originally Posted by DallasDad What's wrong with just handing out a ceramic knife to each passenger? Too logical, also difficult to charge taxpayers thousands of dollars per knife. Gotta be proprietary or no one gets rich, and then what would be the point?
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21st November 2010, 06:27 PM	#3
korenyx Muse Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 19th Century Kansas Posts: 827	Yes, I felt very safe after those background checks. All those six-month old terrorists on the no-fly list. Never know when you might get gummed to death.

21st November 2010, 06:28 PM	#4
AnnoyingPony Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 366	Originally Posted by Thunder Easy solution to all this nonesense: just allow people to go through a thorough pre-flight background check prosess, so we know you are not a threat to security. Didn't we already have a system like this in place years ago...that allowed folks to go through a pre-flight background check weeks and months before their flight? That way when they got to the airport, all they had to do was prove their identity, and bang....you go through wish just a metal detector. I'm happy to have the TSA do a background check on me, so that I can jump through security and avoid the anal/testicular probe. I already had a NYPD background check years ago and came through just fine. Amen to that!

21st November 2010, 08:07 PM	#7
themusicteacher Muse Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Burque, NM Posts: 708	I'm voting for: everyone fly's naked.

21st November 2010, 10:02 PM	#9
Corsair 115 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 8,591	Originally Posted by themusicteacher I'm voting for: everyone fly's naked. You've hit upon the real reason for the TSA screenings: it's a conspiracy by nudists to have their agenda pushed on everyone!
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22nd November 2010, 01:47 AM	#10
followmycaravan Student Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 36	I believe the pre check would not solve anything. The current regulation is acceptable at my point of view, as long as the checker is not a perv
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22nd November 2010, 03:25 AM	#11
Aepervius Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bierland. I mean , germany. Posts: 7,773	Originally Posted by Thunder Easy solution to all this nonesense: just allow people to go through a thorough pre-flight background check prosess, so we know you are not a threat to security. Didn't we already have a system like this in place years ago...that allowed folks to go through a pre-flight background check weeks and months before their flight? That way when they got to the airport, all they had to do was prove their identity, and bang....you go through wish just a metal detector. I'm happy to have the TSA do a background check on me, so that I can jump through security and avoid the anal/testicular probe. I already had a NYPD background check years ago and came through just fine. If you meant the CAPS I criteria, they were not a background check, they jsut looked at the history of the pax. If he paid CC, and flew business with baggage, he had a positive (no need for further inspection) score. But if you flew with cash, without baggage, eco, you had a negative score (flag him for rectal inspection). much, much too easy to game.
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22nd November 2010, 03:26 AM	#12
Aepervius Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bierland. I mean , germany. Posts: 7,773	Originally Posted by themusicteacher I'm voting for: everyone fly's naked. OK, I'll fly in the USA, but out of the USA or dom flight, I would rather take a boat/car thank you.
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