10-Year-Old Boy In Custody After Shooting Mother

The Central Scrutinizer · 4th January 2011, 10:01 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/03/...ex.html?hpt=T2

Too bad she didn't have a concealed carry permit. She could have defended herself.

lionking · 4th January 2011, 10:09 PM

The age of criminal culpability is as low as 6 in the US. It's 10 in Australia. The police had no option.

Yet another firearm death in the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Bikewer · 5th January 2011, 06:45 AM

Short on detail. An accidental shooting or a deliberate homicide? Is the child competent, or does he have psychological or developmental problems....Etc.

10-year olds are not "arrested" in the legal sense. They are "taken into custody". Perhaps the child was taken into custody as there was no other choice.

The youngest child I ever dealt with in a criminal matter was seven. He had not only attacked his mother with a broadhead arrow he'd found at the adjacent archery range, he had kicked his infant sister down the stairs.
Resisted arrest, too.... Quite a piece of work, actually. I suspect budding psychosis.

Checkmite · 5th January 2011, 07:35 AM

From the article I read, it sounds like it might've been a freak accident, but of course the police have to hang onto him while they investigate.

LTC8K6 · 5th January 2011, 07:41 AM

The kid has a history of behavior problems and no responsible adult would have allowed him to have a gun.

http://www.taiwannews.com.tw/etn/new...te_rss=General

Quote:

McVay's brother, 40-year-old Tony Miller of Louisville, Kentucky, said Tuesday his nephew has "anger issues" and that he argued with his mother because he didn't want to bring in the firewood.

Miller says four guns found in the boy's bedroom once belonged to the child's grandfather, but were given to him by his father.

LTC8K6 · 5th January 2011, 07:43 AM

http://abcnews.go.com/US/boy-killed-...ry?id=12537130

Xephyr · 5th January 2011, 07:46 AM

Gotta keep dem firearms handy dandy in the house so's we can keep our famblies safe.

ZirconBlue · 5th January 2011, 10:25 AM

W.
T.
F?

Xephyr · 5th January 2011, 10:34 AM

The little dears...

They grow up so fast these days.

aggle-rithm · 5th January 2011, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by LTC8K6

http://abcnews.go.com/US/boy-killed-...ry?id=12537130

In the boy's defense, he REALLY hates bringing in the firewood.

Bikewer · 5th January 2011, 10:54 AM

Seems to me that 10 is a bit young.... I recall back when I was a young lad wanting to go hunting so bad I could taste it, and of course wanting my own weapon. I had been allowed to fire various firearms, under immediate supervision of adults, but I didn't get my very own until I was 14 or so.
And I was a good boy..... A ten-year old with "anger issues" and a roomfull of firearms sounds rather irresponsible.

rwguinn · 5th January 2011, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Bikewer

Seems to me that 10 is a bit young.... I recall back when I was a young lad wanting to go hunting so bad I could taste it, and of course wanting my own weapon. I had been allowed to fire various firearms, under immediate supervision of adults, but I didn't get my very own until I was 14 or so.
And I was a good boy..... A ten-year old with "anger issues" and a roomfull of firearms sounds rather irresponsible.

^^^This is the way it is done properly.
I learned to shoot at age 6. Was not permitted to even touch without an adult present until I was 14. Same for my son, my nephews (and nieces) and all my friends and their kids...

marplots · 5th January 2011, 12:02 PM

This is one thing that distinguishes guns as tools. They are more impulsively fatal than other things that might be at hand.

MostlyHarmless · 5th January 2011, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Bikewer

Seems to me that 10 is a bit young.... I recall back when I was a young lad wanting to go hunting so bad I could taste it, and of course wanting my own weapon. I had been allowed to fire various firearms, under immediate supervision of adults, but I didn't get my very own until I was 14 or so.
And I was a good boy..... A ten-year old with "anger issues" and a roomfull of firearms sounds rather irresponsible.

Yeah, I "owned" a rifle when I was eight or nine, I just didn't have access to it myself. I see no problem at all in teaching a child to shoot, but access to the weapon should be through a rational adult who understands how to supervise a child with a firearm.

sgtbaker · 6th January 2011, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by marplots

This is one thing that distinguishes guns as tools. They are more impulsively fatal than other things that might be at hand.

Yeah but when the tab snaps off, how else are you going to open the can of beer?

4th January 2011, 10:01 PM	#1
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4th January 2011, 10:09 PM	#2
lionking In the Peanut Gallery Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 29,643	The age of criminal culpability is as low as 6 in the US. It's 10 in Australia. The police had no option. Yet another firearm death in the land of the free and the home of the brave.

5th January 2011, 06:45 AM	#3
Bikewer Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St. Louis, Mo. Posts: 9,517	Short on detail. An accidental shooting or a deliberate homicide? Is the child competent, or does he have psychological or developmental problems....Etc. 10-year olds are not "arrested" in the legal sense. They are "taken into custody". Perhaps the child was taken into custody as there was no other choice. The youngest child I ever dealt with in a criminal matter was seven. He had not only attacked his mother with a broadhead arrow he'd found at the adjacent archery range, he had kicked his infant sister down the stairs. Resisted arrest, too.... Quite a piece of work, actually. I suspect budding psychosis.

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5th January 2011, 10:39 AM	#10
aggle-rithm Ardent Formulist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 14,149	Originally Posted by LTC8K6 http://abcnews.go.com/US/boy-killed-...ry?id=12537130 In the boy's defense, he REALLY hates bringing in the firewood.
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5th January 2011, 10:54 AM	#11
Bikewer Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St. Louis, Mo. Posts: 9,517	Seems to me that 10 is a bit young.... I recall back when I was a young lad wanting to go hunting so bad I could taste it, and of course wanting my own weapon. I had been allowed to fire various firearms, under immediate supervision of adults, but I didn't get my very own until I was 14 or so. And I was a good boy..... A ten-year old with "anger issues" and a roomfull of firearms sounds rather irresponsible.

5th January 2011, 11:56 AM	#12
rwguinn Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 16 miles from 7 lakes Posts: 8,416	Originally Posted by Bikewer Seems to me that 10 is a bit young.... I recall back when I was a young lad wanting to go hunting so bad I could taste it, and of course wanting my own weapon. I had been allowed to fire various firearms, under immediate supervision of adults, but I didn't get my very own until I was 14 or so. And I was a good boy..... A ten-year old with "anger issues" and a roomfull of firearms sounds rather irresponsible. ^^^This is the way it is done properly. I learned to shoot at age 6. Was not permitted to even touch without an adult present until I was 14. Same for my son, my nephews (and nieces) and all my friends and their kids...
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marplots Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,361	This is one thing that distinguishes guns as tools. They are more impulsively fatal than other things that might be at hand.
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5th January 2011, 12:10 PM	#14
MostlyHarmless Thinker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York Posts: 129	Originally Posted by Bikewer Seems to me that 10 is a bit young.... I recall back when I was a young lad wanting to go hunting so bad I could taste it, and of course wanting my own weapon. I had been allowed to fire various firearms, under immediate supervision of adults, but I didn't get my very own until I was 14 or so. And I was a good boy..... A ten-year old with "anger issues" and a roomfull of firearms sounds rather irresponsible. Yeah, I "owned" a rifle when I was eight or nine, I just didn't have access to it myself. I see no problem at all in teaching a child to shoot, but access to the weapon should be through a rational adult who understands how to supervise a child with a firearm.
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sgtbaker Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,546	Originally Posted by marplots This is one thing that distinguishes guns as tools. They are more impulsively fatal than other things that might be at hand. Yeah but when the tab snaps off, how else are you going to open the can of beer?
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