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Old 19th January 2011, 03:45 PM   #1
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I Disagree With Fnord About Randi Adherents Coming to Christ

They have rejected the greatest miracle of all the resurrection of Jesus so no parlor trick will convince them.

Hell has been created for those who want to reject God forever.

Even when on Sept. 14, 2015 a couple million people vanish they still won't be convinced. They might just call it a "fake rapture".

The Tribulation is Sept. 14, 2015 to Aug. 7, 2022 (2,520 days). 2,520 days is 7 x 360 and is the smallest number divisible by all number from 2 to 10. Jesus steps down on the mount of olives Aug. 7, 2022.

So they will take the mark of the beast implant under their skin and die from it. There is no saving them. Jesus returns, judges the nations from the 1260th to 1290th day, then 45 days more to the 1335 day Israel is set up as the center of all nations from where Jesus reigns in the 3rd Temple.

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Old 19th January 2011, 03:51 PM   #2
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You think that's bad? Wait until the day after when Darth Vader's Death Star destoys Saturn!
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Followed by the Dark Gods emerging from the rift, swallowing the death star, and crushing the gates of his pitiful heaven and devouring all those within.
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Old 19th January 2011, 03:57 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by noselfwilling View Post
They have rejected the greatest miracle of all the resurrection of Jesus so no parlor trick will convince them.

Hell has been created for those who want to reject God forever.

Even when on Sept. 14, 2015 a couple million people vanish they still won't be convinced. They might just call it a "fake rapture".

The Tribulation is Sept. 14, 2015 to Aug. 7, 2022 (2,520 days). 2,520 days is 7 x 360 and is the smallest number divisible by all number from 2 to 10. Jesus steps down on the mount of olives Aug. 7, 2022.

So they will take the mark of the beast implant under their skin and die from it. There is no saving them. Jesus returns, judges the nations from the 1260th to 1290th day, then 45 days more to the 1335 day Israel is set up as the center of all nations from where Jesus reigns in the 3rd Temple.

This might come as a shock to you, but you aren't the first to come in here predicting Rapture/Apocalypse/Etc. Why should we believe you, when no one one else has been right?

Or, in short: I'll believe it when I see it. What will you do if/when your prediction fails?
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Old 19th January 2011, 03:57 PM   #5
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Even when on Sept. 14, 2015 a couple million people vanish they still won't be convinced. They might just call it a "fake rapture".
It's 144,000, I thought. Where did the "couple million" number come from? And why have you stopped posting on other threads?

The numerology is tiresome, though, particularly since Jesus said you won't know the day or the hour, making you inconsistent in your own professed religion.
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Aw, too bad. Cthulhu is rising on August 19, 2015.
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This might come as a shock to you, but you aren't the first to come in here predicting Rapture/Apocalypse/Etc. Why should we believe you, when no one one else has been right?
I am the first to predict with a 1 in 70,000,000 probability I could be wrong. There has been no probability for the Tribulation even close to that.
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I am the first to predict with a 1 in 70,000,000 probability I could be wrong. There has been no probability for the Tribulation even close to that.
Sorry, I predicted that last week.

Tomorrow I'm going to predict grey aliens with a 1 in 65,000,000 chance that I could be wrong.

It's ok to feel a little one-uped.
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It's 144,000, I thought. Where did the "couple million" number come from?
144,000 comes from 24 hours a day x 6000 year-days = 144,000.
(12 x 12 x 1000).

12 is the number of eternal perfection in the New City with 12 gates, etc.

The redemptive design is over 6000 years from 3986 BC to 2015 AD.

The 144,000 is the consummation of what God is looking for 144,000 virgin Christians. Once that point is reached, the Tribulation begins Sept. 14, 2015 to Aug. 7, 2022.

2,520 days - Daniel's unit of 7. Smallest number divisible by numbers 2 to 10. 7 x 360.

We are about to enter the Sabbath rest of the millennial reign of Christ with His overcome believers to reign over the nations.

Just click on my page to see the proof for the 1 in 70,00,000.

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I don't think that the OP has a firm grasp on probability.
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Old 19th January 2011, 04:14 PM   #12
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I don't think that the OP has a firm grasp on probability.
I don't think it means what he thinks it means.
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Where's that crazy-person emoticon? The one with the finger circling the ear. It's warranted.


Noselfwilling: I'll apologize for calling you crazy when you provide evidence.
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Old 19th January 2011, 04:21 PM   #14
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I don't think that the OP has a firm grasp on probability reality.
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They have rejected the greatest miracle of all the resurrection of Jesus so no parlor trick will convince them.
I did not ask you for a "Parlour Trick", I asked you to prophesy a miracle. Of course, this would require God to impart that prophesy to you, AND to perform said miracle on our behalf.

"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened." -- Jesus, as quoted in Matthew 7:7-8

So, I'm asking both you and God to provide irrefutable evidence of God's existance. He renders the prophesy of His miracle unto you, you pass the prophesy along to us, and God makes it happen. Simple.

And by 'miracle', I mean something that would defy our understanding of physical principles, and do so in an obvious way ... make the Statue of Liberty sit down ... flood Death Valley with pure water ... regenerate the amputated limbs of all military veterans ... eliminate the AIDS virus ... eliminate cancer ...

Any of these things would be easy for the infinite God.

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Hell has been created for those who want to reject God forever.
"Hell"?

Originally Posted by noselfwilling View Post
Even when on Sept. 14, 2015 a couple million people vanish they still won't be convinced. They might just call it a "fake rapture".

The Tribulation is Sept. 14, 2015 to Aug. 7, 2022 (2,520 days). 2,520 days is 7 x 360 and is the smallest number divisible by all number from 2 to 10. Jesus steps down on the mount of olives Aug. 7, 2022.
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." -- Jesus, as quoted in Matthew 24:36

So, how did you come about this information? Be careful how you answer that, for it is written...

"... For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve." -- Apostle Paul, as quoted in his Second Letter to the Corinthian Church, eleventh chapter, 13th through 15th verse (2Cor. 11:13-15)

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So they will take the mark of the beast implant under their skin and die from it. There is no saving them. Jesus returns, judges the nations from the 1260th to 1290th day, then 45 days more to the 1335 day Israel is set up as the center of all nations from where Jesus reigns in the 3rd Temple.
This fate is reserved for those who never accept Christ before the Rapture, and not for those who accept Him before then.

So the people I mentioned still have the chance. Surely, a man after Christ would want all to be saved, and not just those who have already accepted their salvation.

Thus my request regarding an irrefutable miracle; make it happen, and even the most blind will see. Do nothing, and by your own inaction you will condemn the currently lost to eternal torment in Hell.

Oh, BTW: I will accept your "Friend me" request after The Miracle has occured, as I would hate to be friends with a false prophet.
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Just click on my page to see the proof for the 1 in 70,00,000.
Your page? Where is that?
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I'm going to hope against hope that noselfwilling will still be on this forum on Sept. 15, 2015.
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"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." -- Jesus, as quoted in Matthew 24:36
This is referring to the end of the millennial kingdom, and also first rapture is not known to the exact day, it could be according to the crescent moon the day before, the day, or the day after.

We also are told we can know right at the door.

Anyone can come to Christ before they die so I dont exclude anyone, but generally speaking I am talking about those who would never come to Christ no matter what miracle Jesus would perform.

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I don't think that the OP has a firm grasp on probability.
Among other things.
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Anyone can come to Christ before they die so I dont exclude anyone, but generally speaking I am talking about those who would never come to Christ no matter what miracle Jesus would perform.
Show us a miracle and let's see who's who.
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The Tribulation is Sept. 14, 2015 to Aug. 7, 2022 (2,520 days). 2,520 days is 7 x 360 and is the smallest number divisible by all number from 2 to 10. Jesus steps down on the mount of olives Aug. 7, 2022.


No it isn't.
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This is referring to the end of the millennial kingdom, and also first rapture is not known to the exact day, it could be according to the crescent moon the day before, the day, or the day after.

We also are told we can know right at the door.

Anyone can come to Christ before they die so I dont exclude anyone, but generally speaking I am talking about those who would never come to Christ no matter what miracle Jesus would perform.
So you would condemn all those who would come to Christ by an act of God because it would be a waste of your time to even try to save Those Who Will Not Be Saved.

Would you not spare an entire city of sinners to save the life of even one righteous man?

God would. It is His will. Why is it not yours?
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So you would condemn those who would come to Christ because it would be a waste of time to even try to save Those Who Will Not Be Saved.
I can't condemn anyone. I just know there are these type of people.
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Even when on Sept. 14, 2015 a couple million people vanish they still won't be convinced. They might just call it a "fake rapture".
I have a prediction of my own. On September 15, 2015, with the hope that you're still alive and in good health, you will begin to develop either a rationale for why the rapture didn't happen on September 14, 2015; a theory explaining why it did, in fact, happen, though nobody vanished; or a conspiracy theory about the cover up.

Quite frankly, the only reason I'm posting this is so that it will show up in the archives. I might reply if you do, or I might not bother, but come September 15, 2015, I reserve the right to dig this post back up and quote it. (And hopefully, I'm alive and well by then myself).

And I'm serious. I hope you're alive and doing quite well on September 15, 2015.

See you in four years and 8 months!

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At least we have one thing in common. Neither of us can disprove the 1 in 70,000,000 probability.
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I can't condemn anyone. I just know there are these type of people.
Well, then ... I have asked both you and God. When shall we receive?

"Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?" -- Jesus, as quoted in Matthew 7:9-11

Jesus wouldn't lie, so I'm asking...
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Where's that crazy-person emoticon? The one with the finger circling the ear. It's warranted.

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there's and and and and and

but I can't find the exact one you describe
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At least we have one thing in common. Neither of us can disprove the 1 in 70,000,000 probability.
In about 4 years and 8 months we'll have another go at it.
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Well, then ... I have asked both you and God. When shall we receive?
Receive what?

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They have rejected the greatest miracle of all the resurrection of Jesus so no parlor trick will convince them.

Hell has been created for those who want to reject God forever.

Even when on Sept. 14, 2015 a couple million people vanish they still won't be convinced. They might just call it a "fake rapture".

The Tribulation is Sept. 14, 2015 to Aug. 7, 2022 (2,520 days). 2,520 days is 7 x 360 and is the smallest number divisible by all number from 2 to 10. Jesus steps down on the mount of olives Aug. 7, 2022.
You're in luck! No-one had picked 2015-09-14 yet. Is that GMT? We need to know to make sure you get the right time slot in the pool.
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You're in luck! No-one had picked 2015-09-14 yet. Is that GMT? We need to know to make sure you get the right time slot in the pool.
Like I said I don't know that. It could be the day before, the day, or the day after, but within a 24 hour period either way.

I do know there are 2,520 days from Sept. 14, 2015 Feast of Trumpets to Aug. 7, 2022 Tisha B'Av.
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Well, then ... I have asked both you and God. When shall we receive?
Receive what?
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... I'm asking both you and God to provide irrefutable evidence of God's existance. He renders the prophesy of His miracle unto you, you pass the prophesy along to us, and God makes it happen. Simple.

And by 'miracle', I mean something that would defy our understanding of physical principles, and do so in an obvious way ... make the Statue of Liberty sit down ... flood Death Valley with pure water ... regenerate the amputated limbs of all military veterans ... eliminate the AIDS virus ... eliminate cancer ...

Any of these things would be easy for the infinite God...
I'm asking ... now, when shall we receive?
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I'm asking ... now, when shall we receive?
Receive what?
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..... the beast implant under their skin and die from it. ....
Am I the only one that kept reading this as breast implant?

ETA: So I wasn't paying attention, when is Galactus coming?
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Old 19th January 2011, 04:53 PM   #36
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Anyone else ready to call Poe's law on this guy yet? If not, I'm doing it right now.
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Old 19th January 2011, 04:54 PM   #37
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I'm suppose to receive something but he won't tell me what it is. He's being coy.
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Old 19th January 2011, 04:54 PM   #38
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Originally Posted by noselfwilling View Post
Like I said I don't know that. It could be the day before, the day, or the day after, but within a 24 hour period either way.

I do know there are 2,520 days from Sept. 14, 2015 Feast of Trumpets to Aug. 7, 2022 Tisha B'Av.
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But how long is that in years?
6 days is 1000 years for each day, I've heard.
That's 6000 years from now.
I gotta wait that long to get my harp?
Bummer.

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Old 19th January 2011, 04:54 PM   #39
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Originally Posted by noselfwilling View Post
Receive what?
I've already posted what I'm asking for. Twice. Are you so blind that you will not see? Or should I simply tell you to "Get thee behind me"?
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Old 19th January 2011, 04:56 PM   #40
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Originally Posted by Fnord View Post
I've already posted what I'm asking for. Twice. Are you so blind that you will not see? Or should I simply tell you to "Get thee behind me"?
Perhaps try posting in your own words so we can know what you are talking about.
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