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Muse
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: America! (F, yeah!)
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Does anyone hate Jesus?
"Jesus loves all of us, even those that hate him..."
This was posted on Facebook by an acquaintance of mine, and I wondered: "Does anybody really 'hate' Jesus?" I'm a skeptic and polyatheist, but I hate Jesus no more than I do any other deity or fictional hero: Thor, Zeus, Krishna, Santa Claus, Peter Pan, Superman, etc. In fact, I think most of them are pretty cool, in the same way I like Yoda and Gandalf. Anyone out there really hate Jesus, and if so, why? |
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Certified Castlevania Fanboy
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Clock Tower Boss Room
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I hate him, but I've got good reason. The jerk won't return my power tools.
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"Sometimes it is better to light a flamethrower than to curse the darkness." - Terry Pratchett |
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Muse
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 579
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I may not hate Peter Pan, but you're not going to convince me he's not a punk.
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Scholar
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 72
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Why would I hate him? He's a myth, a work of fiction. What I hate are some of the things done in the name of that myth.
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Philosopher
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Chicago
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It is pretty dickish to condition eternal bliss on believing the hodge-podge of insane claims and conflicting stories he left behind.
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Philosopher
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 7,201
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I agree it would be silly to hate Jesus--just as it would be silly to hate any other mythological figure.
I may hate (well, that's a strong word--maybe strongly dislike) efforts to force Jesus down my throat. |
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It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,719
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I don't hate Jesus.
Boiled okra is another matter. I HATE whole boiled okra. I don't mean that I dislike boiled okra. I mean I have bad dreams about it. I dream I'm at a batting-range splattering slimy boiled okra with a baseball bat. Jesus doesn't even figure compared to the active 24/7 hatred I have for slimy green whole boiled okra. I'm sure most of you can identify with that - especially those who work with elephants having chronic sinus infections. I'm glad we had this little talk.
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Appearance of intelligence
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 3,176
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I think that when a Christian claims somebody "hates" Jesus, what he really means is that person hasn't accepted Jesus as a personal savior.
Similar to an atheist not believing in a particular god is equated with "hating" him. |
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Philosopher
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Chicago
Posts: 6,414
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Quote:
The guy that owned those pigs probably didn't like him all that much. That's likely why they told him to get the hell out of there, "Yeah, Jesus, I know you say there were demons, but it sort of looked like you just chased our pigs off a cliff. Tell you what, if you just get out of here, we won't beat you up." |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Banned
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Queens
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I love Jesus with mustard and a cold beer.
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Dental Floss Tycoon
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge
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I feel no hatred for the fictional Jesus nor the person on whom that fictional character was very loosely based.
154 created a thread a little while ago in which he accused people of hating Jesus. It was the usual train-wreck. |
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It looks just like a Telefunken U47... You'll love it. |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,719
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Dental Floss Tycoon
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge
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It looks just like a Telefunken U47... You'll love it. |
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Grammaton Cleric
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Swingin' on a star
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I know he was suspended, I don't know if he never came back or if he went the well-trodden path of sending abusive PMs whilst on suspension.
Oh, and mark me down as someone else who doesn't hate Jesus. I hate some of the things that have been done in his name, but hate the guy himself? Nah. Don't think he existed and the story never got me involved enough to have any strong reaction to him. |
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"The perfect haiku would have just two syllables: Airwolf" ~ Ernest Cline "Science knows it doesn't know everything, otherwise it would stop" ~ Dara O'Briain. |
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Thinker
Join Date: Sep 2009
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"The atheist's decision to toss out the whole concept of god is pleasing to the type of god that would have to exist for an atheist to believe." - quarky ![]() "Screw it, Evolution is a myth. Prove to me that Evolution is a fact!! Show me something evolving on camera, film something evolving. Then I will accept it as fact." - Squidgy
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Banned
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Redmond, Washington
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I don't know. Does anyone hate poverty? I guess if you hate poverty you hate Jesus.
Does anyone hate people who thought the Earth is flat? Jesus thought the Earth is flat. Does anyone hate the idea that we should love our enemies who are out to destroy us? That was one of Christ's ideas. And it did not work for him, nor for Ghandi, nor for MLK. Does anyone hate people who pretend to have all the answers and yet change their mind? Jesus did that too. Does anyone hate people who make predictions that have to be reinterpreted from their original meaning? Jesus can be blamed for that as well. |
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Thinker
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Canberra
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What's the point of that statement?
Why exactly would we care if Jesus loves us or not? If you don't believe in jesus, you don't care, so I don't think this is meant towards atheist. It would be meant towards those who do believe in Jesus, but hate him, and I don't know of any such people. Do Satan worshippers believe in Jesus? I mean that he lived and was (still is) the son of god? Wouldn't it make more sense to say 'we, followers of Jesus, love everyone, even those who hate us?' |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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no, i don't think i need to read naturalistic literature more accurately, to be convinced its true. - Gibhor |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Tergiversator
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: That's how you get ants
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What's the best argument for UHC? This argument against UHC. "Perhaps one reason per capita GDP is lower in UHC countries is because they've tried to prevent this important function [bankrupting the sick] and thus carry forward considerable economic dead wood?"-BeAChooser |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Briefly immortal
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: The Group W bench
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I hate him for sure. That Bethlehem bastard caused me to lose a girlfriend that I had the smokin' hot hornies for. After being "saved", she declared that she could never be serious with anyone who wasn't saved. She said this to me just after I'd ridden my bicycle 200 miles to see her. Damn you, Jesus. Damn you to hell.
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CIA + FBI + NWO Employee
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Cincinnati, USA
Posts: 1,845
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Hate Jesus? I don't know, never met the guy.
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"God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance." - Neil deGrasse Tyson |
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Intellectual Gladiator
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the midst of a vast, beautiful & uncaring universe
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Might as well ask me if I hate unicorns.
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Muse
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 567
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Jesus was like a digital pirate, always making illegal copies of fish and bread and giving them away to his friends. How are the farmers and fishermen supposed to make a living, Jesus?
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Illuminator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,590
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Briefly immortal
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Illuminator
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,095
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As fictional characters go, Yeshua ha Nostri is pretty harmless, and some of the words attributed to him seem to be good ideas. So, I cannot hate a fictional character. Not even Hannibal Lector, who as a fictional character was NOT harmless.
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Thinker
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 214
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I'm a committed atheist
but Jesus is still my homeboy |
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A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject. |
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Ovis ex Machina
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Location: Welsh Wales
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Critical Thinker
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Scholar
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Central Florida
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No more than I hate dragons or ogres.
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~The Rascal~
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cologne
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dedicated aphilatelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Switzerland
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I feel with Jesus, poor guy was nailed on a cross....
I don't hate him, it looks to me as he was hate enough already. |
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AGW is a fact, including the A, face it |
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,142
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Nope, neither doI hate Joe Camel. When people use fictional characters to promote bad choices why blame the unreal?
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~The Rascal~
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cologne
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lorcutus.tolere
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: New Zealand
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I'm finding it quite fascinating that so many people here are describing Jesus as a myth.
Alexander the Great believed he was a descendant of Hercules and yet no one seems to question whether he was a real person. |
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dedicated aphilatelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Switzerland
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AGW is a fact, including the A, face it |
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