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dc1971 · 20th January 2011, 10:27 PM

I had a discussion many years ago with a friend of mine (lets call him Bob for the sake of anonymity) about John Lennon and the recording of the Double Fantasy album. At a point in our discussion, Bob says "How did John Lennon die?" Of course my answer was Mark Chapman shot him 7 times in the back right outside of his apartment building. To which Bob tells me "No, he killed himself."

Bob went on to tell me that he wrote a research paper in high school that "proved" how he killed himself. Some of what he told me was rather compelling however Bob had something to learn about how to "prove" something if he's going to make such a bold claim.

There were a few things he pointed out to me such as in the song "Just Like Starting Over" you hear a indecipherable distorted voice appear toward the end of the song (Yoko?). Bob told me that was a voice saying "John Lennon will die on December 8, 1980". To this day, no one really knows for sure what the distorted voice is saying.

Bob also told me that the Double Fantasy album was compiled so that Yoko's songs would follow John's and if you listen to the context of each song it's as if they're arguing with each other (I agree with this part of his claim - read the lyrics to each song on Double Fantasy - Yoko seems rather bitter). Bob told me that their marriage was not going well at this point and it's possible Yoko was even thinking of divorcing John and this was devastating to him. Thus, reason for him to commit suicide.

So I ask why would John go through the trouble of writing an album saying he's going to kill himself, hire an assassin, put his family through such grief and misery, pay out all of this money to have his death publicized when all he had to do was just commit suicide? I even asked these questions to Bob and he really did not have an answer.

I also asked Bob how he thinks a big name like John Lennon, who knows a lot of people and is a connected personality in the name of entertainment would be able to keep such a thing secret? It just doesn't make sense!

So now I ask the JREF - Has anyone else ever heard this particular conspiracy theory?

MG1962 · 20th January 2011, 10:33 PM

no

Greediguts · 20th January 2011, 10:41 PM

That's a negative Ghost Rider.

dc1971 · 20th January 2011, 10:44 PM

However, writing up this thread influenced me to break out my vinyl copy of Double Fantasy and listen to "Starting Over"... that voice toward the end of the song is rather spooky! However, for the life of me I cannot figure out what is being said!!!

MG1962 · 20th January 2011, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by dc1971

However, writing up this thread influenced me to break out my vinyl copy of Double Fantasy and listen to "Starting Over"... that voice toward the end of the song is rather spooky! However, for the life of me I cannot figure out what is being said!!!

Its an airline announcement

dc1971 · 20th January 2011, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by MG1962

Its an airline announcement

That's what I told Bob.

MG1962 · 20th January 2011, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by dc1971

That's what I told Bob.

I just checked with John, bit of a wait on the Ouija board but got through eventually. He was also a bit suprised Larry King retired, but other than that he seemed pretty happy

dc1971 · 20th January 2011, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by MG1962

I just checked with John, bit of a wait on the Ouija board but got through eventually. He was also a bit suprised Larry King retired, but other than that he seemed pretty happy

Tell him that I'm sorry about not really digging his music until 1989!!

BobHaulk · 21st January 2011, 12:09 AM

i think John Lennon killed Mark Chapman but before he did it he swapped bodies like that film Big. He was sick of being famous,you can tell this is true because if you play Cold Turkey backwards Lennon clearly says i want to be free, a line he also sings on the Queen song of the same name. You can tell that Queen really are the Beatles. Mcartney faked his death and returned as the bass player in Queen. Just ask George Harrison he'll tell ya. Oh he's not dead either he plays the ginger guy in CSI spin off show Miami Vice

MysteryMammal · 21st January 2011, 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by BobHaulk

i think John Lennon killed Mark Chapman but before he did it he swapped bodies like that film Big. He was sick of being famous,you can tell this is true because if you play Cold Turkey backwards Lennon clearly says i want to be free, a line he also sings on the Queen song of the same name. You can tell that Queen really are the Beatles. Mcartney faked his death and returned as the bass player in Queen. Just ask George Harrison he'll tell ya. Oh he's not dead either he plays the ginger guy in CSI spin off show Miami Vice

Psh. What a load of crap. Everyone knows that George Harrison is Susan Boyle. The ginger on CSI is Mike Nesmith of the Monkees. Geez.

Dave Rogers · 21st January 2011, 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by dc1971

So now I ask the JREF - Has anyone else ever heard this particular conspiracy theory?

No, but as soon as dvictr reads this he'll believe it's all true.

Dave

applecorped · 21st January 2011, 04:21 AM

A better conspiracy would have Yoko planning to have John killed because he was thinking about getting the Beatles back together.

timhau · 21st January 2011, 04:25 AM

Wake up sheeple! Suicide by a deranged Holden Caulfield fan -- how much more obvious can you get?

BobHaulk · 21st January 2011, 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by applecorped

A better conspiracy would have Yoko planning to have John killed because he was thinking about getting the Beatles back together.

More like he was gonna have her killed to prevent her screaming over any more of his tunes but Chapman was a **** shot and hit him instead.

dc1971 · 21st January 2011, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by applecorped

A better conspiracy would have Yoko planning to have John killed because he was thinking about getting the Beatles back together.

The butchered babies album cover explains it all. John Lennon was fascinated with death!

dc1971 · 21st January 2011, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by MysteryMammal

Psh. What a load of crap. Everyone knows that George Harrison is Susan Boyle. The ginger on CSI is Mike Nesmith of the Monkees. Geez.

I thought the Ginger on CSI is the same Ginger from Gilligan's Island?

CptColumbo · 21st January 2011, 06:32 AM

Let me guess, Paul and Ringo wrote "A Catcher in the Rye."

timhau · 21st January 2011, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by CptColumbo

Let me guess, Paul and Ringo wrote "A Catcher in the Rye."

They did, and it's full of subliminal messages. Take the beginning, for example:

Quote:

If you really want to hear about it, the first thing you'll probably want to know that John Lennon is a jerk John Lennon is a jerk is where I was born, and what my lousy childhood was like, and how You must kill him kill kill kill my parents were occupied and all before they had me...

Macgyver1968 · 21st January 2011, 08:25 AM

I think Yoko Ono possibly has the most annoying voice on the planet..too bad the shooter didn't shot her.

(WARNING: Please remove all animals and children from the room before clicking link...also have your mouse positioned over the "close" button to prevent hearing damage)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GMHl7bmlzw

CptColumbo · 21st January 2011, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by CptColumbo

Let me guess, Paul and Ringo wrote "A Catcher in the Rye."

Originally Posted by timhau

They did, and it's full of subliminal messages. Take the beginning, for example:

Or maybe John wrote it for Ringo.

Alferd_Packer · 21st January 2011, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by Macgyver1968

I think Yoko Ono possibly has the most annoying voice on the planet..too bad the shooter didn't shot her.

(WARNING: Please remove all animals and children from the room before clicking link...also have your mouse positioned over the "close" button to prevent hearing damage)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GMHl7bmlzw

There's also a tape floating around of Linda Mcartney singing back up on "Hey Jude."

applecorped · 21st January 2011, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by Alferd_Packer

There's also a tape floating around of Linda Mcartney singing back up on "Hey Jude."

Singing?!? You're way to generous.

dc1971 · 21st January 2011, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Macgyver1968

I think Yoko Ono possibly has the most annoying voice on the planet..too bad the shooter didn't shot her.

(WARNING: Please remove all animals and children from the room before clicking link...also have your mouse positioned over the "close" button to prevent hearing damage)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GMHl7bmlzw

I will probably hear about this later, but... I actually think Yoko's material on Double Fantasy is better than John's!

fromdownunder · 21st January 2011, 03:39 PM

John definately commited suicide. The guilt he felt about being part of the cover-up to Paul's death in 1966 finally got the best of him, and he cound not go on any longer.

Norm

AnnoyingPony · 21st January 2011, 04:00 PM

BAHAHA no.

My dad thinks he was killed by an assassin who was brainwashed by MKULTRA.

dc1971 · 22nd January 2011, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by fromdownunder

John definately commited suicide. The guilt he felt about being part of the cover-up to Paul's death in 1966 finally got the best of him, and he cound not go on any longer.

Norm

It wasn't Paul who died in 1966, IT WAS JOHN!! There are a lot of clues that "prove" this! You notice how on the Sgt Pepper album, John grew a moustache, started wearing glasses, lost a lot of weight and later on grew his hair? Well that's because that was not really John Lennon! The Beatles had a contract to fill so they found someone who looked, acted, sounded, and was even as great of a musician as John to stand in and fulfill their obligation as a band.

Think about it, the death of John finally led to the Beatles break-up, and the doppelganger gets assassinated 10 years later which finally puts to rest any talk of the Beatles reuniting nor will anyone find out that John Lennon was not really John Lennon!

Dog Town · 22nd January 2011, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by CptColumbo

Let me guess, Paul and Ringo wrote "A Catcher in the Rye."

Nope! W. Axl Rose did. Minus the "A" of course.

beren · 22nd January 2011, 12:57 PM

This is reminding me of "The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul"

Dog Town · 22nd January 2011, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Alferd_Packer

There's also a tape floating around of Linda Mcartney singing back up on "Hey Jude."

Reminds me of an old joke.

What's a dog with wings?

zaphod2016 · 22nd January 2011, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by dc1971

in the song "Just Like Starting Over" you hear a indecipherable distorted voice appear toward the end of the song (Yoko?). Bob told me that was a voice saying "John Lennon will die on December 8, 1980". To this day, no one really knows for sure what the distorted voice is saying.

Here's a TED talk from Michael Shermer. The whole thing is excellent, but skip ahead to about 9:30 for the relevant section (the Led Zeppelin example).

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I AGREE

I love hidden messages in songs, back-masking, etc. And having wasted more time than I care to admit searching for hidden truths in the lyrics of 70's rock albums, I can say with confidence that 99% of these things really are simple weirdness for the sake of being weird. Either total coincidence, or a musician playing around with the new technology of the day.

Originally Posted by dc1971

Bob also told me that the Double Fantasy album was compiled so that Yoko's songs would follow John's and if you listen to the context of each song it's as if they're arguing with each other

Makes sense.

Originally Posted by dc1971

Yoko was even thinking of divorcing John and this was devastating to him. Thus, reason for him to commit suicide.

Here you lose me. I'm afraid of losing my wife, so I kill myself? It would be one thing if she actually divorced him, but this sounds a bit extreme to me. John Lennon had already survived one divorce by that point, would he really consider suicide in response to a potential divorce that hadn't even initiated yet?

I fight with my wife sometimes, sometimes I even make songs about it. I do that as opposed to getting violent or self destructive. I'm no John Lennon, but I'd imagine its not too different- using music to cope with different pain so that we can resist the urge to jump off the roof sometimes.

What your friend is suggesting- he was so distraught that even after making the album he still couldn't resist suicide- hard to buy.

Originally Posted by dc1971

So I ask why would John go through the trouble of writing an album saying he's going to kill himself, hire an assassin, put his family through such grief and misery, pay out all of this money to have his death publicized when all he had to do was just commit suicide? I even asked these questions to Bob and he really did not have an answer.

So Bob thinks Lennon hired Chapman? Well, that makes more sense than explaining how Lennon shot himself in the back several times.

Originally Posted by dc1971

I also asked Bob how he thinks a big name like John Lennon, who knows a lot of people and is a connected personality in the name of entertainment would be able to keep such a thing secret? It just doesn't make sense!

Nope. Not much sense at all.

You lose me at motive.

Interesting theory, had not heard this one before.

I Ratant · 23rd January 2011, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by dc1971

It wasn't Paul who died in 1966, IT WAS JOHN!! There are a lot of clues that "prove" this! You notice how on the Sgt Pepper album, John grew a moustache, started wearing glasses, lost a lot of weight and later on grew his hair? Well that's because that was not really John Lennon! The Beatles had a contract to fill so they found someone who looked, acted, sounded, and was even as great of a musician as John to stand in and fulfill their obligation as a band.

Think about it, the death of John finally led to the Beatles break-up, and the doppelganger gets assassinated 10 years later which finally puts to rest any talk of the Beatles reuniting nor will anyone find out that John Lennon was not really John Lennon!

.
I'd heard one producer found a near-as-dammit lookalike for John Beatle... unfortunately named Mark Chapman. Bummer...

I Ratant · 23rd January 2011, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by zaphod2016

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So Bob thinks Lennon hired Chapman? Well, that makes more sense than explaining how Lennon shot himself in the back several times.
...

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Any number of unfortunate blacks have been found trying to escape captivity by swimming across rivers and lakes carrying concrete blocks chained to the body, in the Deep South.

shalomsteph · 24th January 2011, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Macgyver1968

I think Yoko Ono possibly has the most annoying voice on the planet..too bad the shooter didn't shot her.

(WARNING: Please remove all animals and children from the room before clicking link...also have your mouse positioned over the "close" button to prevent hearing damage)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GMHl7bmlzw

I love how the audience is trying really hard not to laugh.

Gypseagirl · 26th January 2011, 06:26 AM

I have never heard of this conspiracy.

dc1971 · 26th January 2011, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by Gypseagirl

I have never heard of this conspiracy.

I only ever heard this conspiracy from ONE person ever in my life before sharing it here on JREF!

Howie Felterbush · 26th January 2011, 08:40 PM

I had a guy once tell me that "Frampton Comes Alive!" was recorded entirely in a studio and the audience sounds were added later.

Oddly enough, his name was Bob.

Brainster · 26th January 2011, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by shalomsteph

I love how the audience is trying really hard not to laugh.

After listening to that, the suicide theory starts to make sense.

Aitch · 26th January 2011, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by Gypseagirl

I have never heard of this conspiracy.

Neither had I. Mind you, I did hear of a 'Jimi Hendrix was murdered' story recently; not new - according to a Hendrix obsessive friend of mine it's also known as the 'wacked for the insurance money' theory.

Alareth · 26th January 2011, 11:45 PM

No no no no no.

It was Stephen King.

Gypseagirl · 27th January 2011, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by Aitch

Neither had I. Mind you, I did hear of a 'Jimi Hendrix was murdered' story recently; not new - according to a Hendrix obsessive friend of mine it's also known as the 'wacked for the insurance money' theory.

I hadn't heard that one. I need to move from under the rock i've been under

20th January 2011, 10:27 PM	#1
dc1971 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,033	John Lennon committed suicide... I had a discussion many years ago with a friend of mine (lets call him Bob for the sake of anonymity) about John Lennon and the recording of the Double Fantasy album. At a point in our discussion, Bob says "How did John Lennon die?" Of course my answer was Mark Chapman shot him 7 times in the back right outside of his apartment building. To which Bob tells me "No, he killed himself." Bob went on to tell me that he wrote a research paper in high school that "proved" how he killed himself. Some of what he told me was rather compelling however Bob had something to learn about how to "prove" something if he's going to make such a bold claim. There were a few things he pointed out to me such as in the song "Just Like Starting Over" you hear a indecipherable distorted voice appear toward the end of the song (Yoko?). Bob told me that was a voice saying "John Lennon will die on December 8, 1980". To this day, no one really knows for sure what the distorted voice is saying. Bob also told me that the Double Fantasy album was compiled so that Yoko's songs would follow John's and if you listen to the context of each song it's as if they're arguing with each other (I agree with this part of his claim - read the lyrics to each song on Double Fantasy - Yoko seems rather bitter). Bob told me that their marriage was not going well at this point and it's possible Yoko was even thinking of divorcing John and this was devastating to him. Thus, reason for him to commit suicide. So I ask why would John go through the trouble of writing an album saying he's going to kill himself, hire an assassin, put his family through such grief and misery, pay out all of this money to have his death publicized when all he had to do was just commit suicide? I even asked these questions to Bob and he really did not have an answer. I also asked Bob how he thinks a big name like John Lennon, who knows a lot of people and is a connected personality in the name of entertainment would be able to keep such a thing secret? It just doesn't make sense! So now I ask the JREF - Has anyone else ever heard this particular conspiracy theory?
dc1971 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,033

20th January 2011, 10:44 PM	#4
dc1971 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,033	However, writing up this thread influenced me to break out my vinyl copy of Double Fantasy and listen to "Starting Over"... that voice toward the end of the song is rather spooky! However, for the life of me I cannot figure out what is being said!!!
dc1971 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,033

20th January 2011, 10:55 PM	#6
dc1971 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,033	Originally Posted by MG1962 Its an airline announcement That's what I told Bob.
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20th January 2011, 11:02 PM	#8
dc1971 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,033	Originally Posted by MG1962 I just checked with John, bit of a wait on the Ouija board but got through eventually. He was also a bit suprised Larry King retired, but other than that he seemed pretty happy Tell him that I'm sorry about not really digging his music until 1989!!
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21st January 2011, 12:09 AM	#9
BobHaulk Muse Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 690	i think John Lennon killed Mark Chapman but before he did it he swapped bodies like that film Big. He was sick of being famous,you can tell this is true because if you play Cold Turkey backwards Lennon clearly says i want to be free, a line he also sings on the Queen song of the same name. You can tell that Queen really are the Beatles. Mcartney faked his death and returned as the bass player in Queen. Just ask George Harrison he'll tell ya. Oh he's not dead either he plays the ginger guy in CSI spin off show Miami Vice
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20th January 2011, 10:33 PM	#2
MG1962 Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas (Australia) Posts: 14,750	no

20th January 2011, 10:41 PM	#3
Greediguts Atheist for Jesus Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 644	That's a negative Ghost Rider.

20th January 2011, 10:50 PM	#5
MG1962 Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas (Australia) Posts: 14,750	Originally Posted by dc1971 However, writing up this thread influenced me to break out my vinyl copy of Double Fantasy and listen to "Starting Over"... that voice toward the end of the song is rather spooky! However, for the life of me I cannot figure out what is being said!!! Its an airline announcement

20th January 2011, 10:59 PM	#7
MG1962 Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas (Australia) Posts: 14,750	Originally Posted by dc1971 That's what I told Bob. I just checked with John, bit of a wait on the Ouija board but got through eventually. He was also a bit suprised Larry King retired, but other than that he seemed pretty happy

21st January 2011, 03:41 AM	#10
MysteryMammal Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In the woods, scaring campers Posts: 275	Originally Posted by BobHaulk i think John Lennon killed Mark Chapman but before he did it he swapped bodies like that film Big. He was sick of being famous,you can tell this is true because if you play Cold Turkey backwards Lennon clearly says i want to be free, a line he also sings on the Queen song of the same name. You can tell that Queen really are the Beatles. Mcartney faked his death and returned as the bass player in Queen. Just ask George Harrison he'll tell ya. Oh he's not dead either he plays the ginger guy in CSI spin off show Miami Vice Psh. What a load of crap. Everyone knows that George Harrison is Susan Boyle. The ginger on CSI is Mike Nesmith of the Monkees. Geez.

21st January 2011, 04:16 AM	#11
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: In a world lit only by fire. Posts: 17,907	Originally Posted by dc1971 So now I ask the JREF - Has anyone else ever heard this particular conspiracy theory? No, but as soon as dvictr reads this he'll believe it's all true. Dave
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21st January 2011, 04:21 AM	#12
applecorped Rotten to the Core Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 10,829	A better conspiracy would have Yoko planning to have John killed because he was thinking about getting the Beatles back together.
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21st January 2011, 04:25 AM	#13
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: East of Sweeden Posts: 9,755	Wake up sheeple! Suicide by a deranged Holden Caulfield fan -- how much more obvious can you get?
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21st January 2011, 04:29 AM	#14
BobHaulk Muse Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 690	Originally Posted by applecorped A better conspiracy would have Yoko planning to have John killed because he was thinking about getting the Beatles back together. More like he was gonna have her killed to prevent her screaming over any more of his tunes but Chapman was a **** shot and hit him instead.
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21st January 2011, 05:52 AM	#15
dc1971 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,033	Originally Posted by applecorped A better conspiracy would have Yoko planning to have John killed because he was thinking about getting the Beatles back together. The butchered babies album cover explains it all. John Lennon was fascinated with death!
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21st January 2011, 05:54 AM	#16
dc1971 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,033	Originally Posted by MysteryMammal Psh. What a load of crap. Everyone knows that George Harrison is Susan Boyle. The ginger on CSI is Mike Nesmith of the Monkees. Geez. I thought the Ginger on CSI is the same Ginger from Gilligan's Island?
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21st January 2011, 06:32 AM	#17
CptColumbo Just One More Question Join Date: May 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 9,149	Let me guess, Paul and Ringo wrote "A Catcher in the Rye."
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21st January 2011, 06:54 AM	#18
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: East of Sweeden Posts: 9,755	Originally Posted by CptColumbo Let me guess, Paul and Ringo wrote "A Catcher in the Rye." They did, and it's full of subliminal messages. Take the beginning, for example: Quote: If you really want to hear about it, the first thing you'll probably want to know that John Lennon is a jerk John Lennon is a jerk is where I was born, and what my lousy childhood was like, and how You must kill him kill kill kill my parents were occupied and all before they had me...
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21st January 2011, 08:25 AM	#19
Macgyver1968 Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 3,666	I think Yoko Ono possibly has the most annoying voice on the planet..too bad the shooter didn't shot her. (WARNING: Please remove all animals and children from the room before clicking link...also have your mouse positioned over the "close" button to prevent hearing damage) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GMHl7bmlzw
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21st January 2011, 09:02 AM	#20
CptColumbo Just One More Question Join Date: May 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 9,149	Originally Posted by CptColumbo Let me guess, Paul and Ringo wrote "A Catcher in the Rye." Originally Posted by timhau They did, and it's full of subliminal messages. Take the beginning, for example: Or maybe John wrote it for Ringo.
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21st January 2011, 09:06 AM	#21
Alferd_Packer Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 7,279	Originally Posted by Macgyver1968 I think Yoko Ono possibly has the most annoying voice on the planet..too bad the shooter didn't shot her. (WARNING: Please remove all animals and children from the room before clicking link...also have your mouse positioned over the "close" button to prevent hearing damage) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GMHl7bmlzw There's also a tape floating around of Linda Mcartney singing back up on "Hey Jude."
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21st January 2011, 09:25 AM	#22
applecorped Rotten to the Core Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 10,829	Originally Posted by Alferd_Packer There's also a tape floating around of Linda Mcartney singing back up on "Hey Jude." Singing?!? You're way to generous.
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21st January 2011, 12:37 PM	#23
dc1971 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,033	Originally Posted by Macgyver1968 I think Yoko Ono possibly has the most annoying voice on the planet..too bad the shooter didn't shot her. (WARNING: Please remove all animals and children from the room before clicking link...also have your mouse positioned over the "close" button to prevent hearing damage) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GMHl7bmlzw I will probably hear about this later, but... I actually think Yoko's material on Double Fantasy is better than John's!
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21st January 2011, 03:39 PM	#24
fromdownunder Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,116	John definately commited suicide. The guilt he felt about being part of the cover-up to Paul's death in 1966 finally got the best of him, and he cound not go on any longer. Norm

21st January 2011, 04:00 PM	#25
AnnoyingPony Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 366	BAHAHA no. My dad thinks he was killed by an assassin who was brainwashed by MKULTRA.

22nd January 2011, 08:47 AM	#26
dc1971 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,033	Originally Posted by fromdownunder John definately commited suicide. The guilt he felt about being part of the cover-up to Paul's death in 1966 finally got the best of him, and he cound not go on any longer. Norm It wasn't Paul who died in 1966, IT WAS JOHN!! There are a lot of clues that "prove" this! You notice how on the Sgt Pepper album, John grew a moustache, started wearing glasses, lost a lot of weight and later on grew his hair? Well that's because that was not really John Lennon! The Beatles had a contract to fill so they found someone who looked, acted, sounded, and was even as great of a musician as John to stand in and fulfill their obligation as a band. Think about it, the death of John finally led to the Beatles break-up, and the doppelganger gets assassinated 10 years later which finally puts to rest any talk of the Beatles reuniting nor will anyone find out that John Lennon was not really John Lennon!
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22nd January 2011, 10:21 AM	#27
Dog Town Hit me with music Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sunny blue sky, cold water. Posts: 4,480	Originally Posted by CptColumbo Let me guess, Paul and Ringo wrote "A Catcher in the Rye." Nope! W. Axl Rose did. Minus the "A" of course.
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22nd January 2011, 12:57 PM	#28
beren Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 313	This is reminding me of "The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul"
beren Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 313

22nd January 2011, 01:42 PM	#29
Dog Town Hit me with music Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sunny blue sky, cold water. Posts: 4,480	Originally Posted by Alferd_Packer There's also a tape floating around of Linda Mcartney singing back up on "Hey Jude." Reminds me of an old joke. What's a dog with wings?
	__________________ "Yes. I often wonder why it is that the nutjobs, who clearly think they're among a tiny handful of people who "get it", are wholly incapable of communicating effectively enough so that other people can understand them and "get it", too." Gee Mack, JREF 5/15/09

23rd January 2011, 04:13 PM	#31
I Ratant Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15,305	Originally Posted by dc1971 It wasn't Paul who died in 1966, IT WAS JOHN!! There are a lot of clues that "prove" this! You notice how on the Sgt Pepper album, John grew a moustache, started wearing glasses, lost a lot of weight and later on grew his hair? Well that's because that was not really John Lennon! The Beatles had a contract to fill so they found someone who looked, acted, sounded, and was even as great of a musician as John to stand in and fulfill their obligation as a band. Think about it, the death of John finally led to the Beatles break-up, and the doppelganger gets assassinated 10 years later which finally puts to rest any talk of the Beatles reuniting nor will anyone find out that John Lennon was not really John Lennon! . I'd heard one producer found a near-as-dammit lookalike for John Beatle... unfortunately named Mark Chapman. Bummer...

23rd January 2011, 04:16 PM	#32
I Ratant Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15,305	Originally Posted by zaphod2016 ... So Bob thinks Lennon hired Chapman? Well, that makes more sense than explaining how Lennon shot himself in the back several times. ... . Any number of unfortunate blacks have been found trying to escape captivity by swimming across rivers and lakes carrying concrete blocks chained to the body, in the Deep South.

24th January 2011, 08:28 PM	#33
shalomsteph Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: St. Cloud, MN Posts: 356	Originally Posted by Macgyver1968 I think Yoko Ono possibly has the most annoying voice on the planet..too bad the shooter didn't shot her. (WARNING: Please remove all animals and children from the room before clicking link...also have your mouse positioned over the "close" button to prevent hearing damage) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GMHl7bmlzw I love how the audience is trying really hard not to laugh.
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26th January 2011, 06:26 AM	#34
Gypseagirl Scholar Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 81	I have never heard of this conspiracy.
Gypseagirl Scholar Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 81

26th January 2011, 07:08 AM	#35
dc1971 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,033	Originally Posted by Gypseagirl I have never heard of this conspiracy. I only ever heard this conspiracy from ONE person ever in my life before sharing it here on JREF!
dc1971 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,033

26th January 2011, 08:40 PM	#36
Howie Felterbush Bow Tie Daddy Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: In the twilight, singing all the old lullabies Posts: 5,333	I had a guy once tell me that "Frampton Comes Alive!" was recorded entirely in a studio and the audience sounds were added later. Oddly enough, his name was Bob.
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