If Women Ruled, Would There Be No War? - Page 2

A Laughing Baby · 17th February 2011, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by EHocking

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Sarah Palin approaches 1.

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving ANYTHING approaches one. Godwin's law is really dumb. If there was an emoticon of someone angrily crossing their arms, rest assured I'd be using it right now >:[

JimBenArm · 17th February 2011, 09:28 AM

But you do know that every war would be a girl fight!

Oh, yeah, I went there!

Eddie Dane · 17th February 2011, 09:34 AM

I suspect this very question passed the minds of some Argentinian generals at some point in time.

I Ratant · 17th February 2011, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by Bill Thompson

no, a nuclear war.

Seriously, there would probably be more war. Ever see women fight? They fight over silly things and they practically fight to the death.

Woman are more ag(g)ressive than men in many ways.

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When this charmer noticed me stumbling around near the den where her pups were..... and behaved very un-coyote-like; i.e. not running away.. I decided that my shorts and tennis shoes would not be sufficient protection from her mouth full of very sharp teeth... and ceased approaching the den.

I Ratant · 17th February 2011, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by SOdhner

I'll admit, I've never actually been in a strip club. Still, I'm intrigued by the idea of sipping bears. Are these live bears? Are you drinking their blood, or is it something sexual? I think I'll still have to pass, but I wouldn't mind learning more about this.
...

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Does the "one drop rule" apply here?
Wanna be a grizzly?
Sip a bear!

I Ratant · 17th February 2011, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by bouch

You have to thaw the Kangaroos first!

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Coming back to Palmdale after dark, and it having snowed there while we were off test flying... one of the wing motors on the Tristar was dragged through a pile of ice and snow at the runway turn off.
Ruined the titanium fan blades!

Peacock · 17th February 2011, 11:02 AM

I always say I fight like a girl........Dirty!

Craig4 · 17th February 2011, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by JimBenArm

But you do know that every war would be a girl fight!

Oh, yeah, I went there!

Could we talk them into having the war in a big vat of jello?

Cuddles · 18th February 2011, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by A Laughing Baby

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving ANYTHING approaches one. Godwin's law is really dumb. If there was an emoticon of someone angrily crossing their arms, rest assured I'd be using it right now >:[

There's ~~an app~~ a smiley for that.

More on topic, pretty much what everyone else already said. Wars are very different from personal violence. Even if you accept that women are less likely to get into bar fights, that doesn't necessarily make them less likely to send their country to war. You don't get into wars because you're drunk and he shouldn't have said that about our mum, you get into them for a variety of reasons that affect the country as a whole. Since having women in charge wouldn't change the basic makeup of the country, why assume that the leaders would not just make the same decisions?

JimBenArm · 18th February 2011, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

Could we talk them into having the war in a big vat of jello?

That would be in the Rules of Engagement, yes.

23_Tauri · 18th February 2011, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

Could we talk them into having the war in a big vat of jello?

Originally Posted by JimBenArm

That would be in the Rules of Engagement, yes.

Blimey! Why has no-one ever put this idea forward as the way to world peace before? Save all that palaver with air to surface missiles and such like. All we need is some jello, some wet T-shirts, and some ladies.

I Ratant · 18th February 2011, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

Could we talk them into having the war in a big vat of jello?

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Mud is easier to make...

23_Tauri · 18th February 2011, 11:14 AM

And she's having a cig too! If you're going to be un-PC, go the whole hog!

Jono74 · 18th February 2011, 07:28 PM

Hi Debaser.
I think what you were talking about; ie: the people who over estimate their abilities in leadership ending up being leaders, even though theyre worst suited to it, while those who are best suited to it underestimate their abilities, might be referred to as the " Dunning-Kruger Effect"?
Richard Dawkins also said something to this effect about the religious in america - I cant remember exactly how he said it, but it was a pretty succinct and pithy observation.

There was a survey done in this country a while ago by the Automobile Association on driving skills. Typical humans. 80%+ of respondents rated their driving as well above average. Ha ha

Anway - Thanks 23 Tauri for starting this one - I've found it really interesting reading peoples thoughts on this, as its something I've wondered about many many times over the years. And I guess I have to agree, that nothing much would really change.
Except the increased length of time that grudges would be held. Japan would have had to wait another 900 years to get any sort of army...And some countries would be 'periodically' attacked for not correctly guessing what the other country was thinking and feeling.

mhaze · 18th February 2011, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by 23_Tauri

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The article refers to the idea that if women held all positions of power then there would be little, if any, war. Well, I've read the article and I'm far from convinced. It sounds like more of the growing misandry that has become more common place in recent years.....

Well, there might or might not be war.

But I know for a fact there'd be a lot of bitching.

Jono74 · 18th February 2011, 07:41 PM

Hi I Ratant.
This is a bit off topic, but I simply HAVE to say it.
I've read a LOT of forums here in JREF, having come via one of my favourite podcasts - Skeptoid, and up till now, havent really posted. Kind of getting the feel type thing, before jumping straight in and making a goose of myself. Not that its avoidable in any way.
I have a colony of ants living in my laptop. They are good tenants, and clean any and all food crumbs, sweet sticky liquids, etc. At all times, there will be 1 - 3 ants on patrol duty, just sniffing around the keyboard and screen. If one walks on the screen, and angers me, the computer overlord, it gets promptly squashed. The ants never seem to run out - there is always a steady supply of them.
Since I found the JREF forums, if I had a dollar for everytime I carefully lined up and jabbed your ant giff icon, I would be really rich by now! The damn thing just gets me every time. The other night in bed, my wife reached over and poked at it even, before realising it wasnt an ant, and feeling silly!
Well - apologies again for the meandering, but I simply had to say that. Damn ants...

I Ratant · 18th February 2011, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by Jono74

Hi I Ratant.
This is a bit off topic, but I simply HAVE to say it.
I've read a LOT of forums here in JREF, having come via one of my favourite podcasts - Skeptoid, and up till now, havent really posted. Kind of getting the feel type thing, before jumping straight in and making a goose of myself. Not that its avoidable in any way.
I have a colony of ants living in my laptop. They are good tenants, and clean any and all food crumbs, sweet sticky liquids, etc. At all times, there will be 1 - 3 ants on patrol duty, just sniffing around the keyboard and screen. If one walks on the screen, and angers me, the computer overlord, it gets promptly squashed. The ants never seem to run out - there is always a steady supply of them.
Since I found the JREF forums, if I had a dollar for everytime I carefully lined up and jabbed your ant giff icon, I would be really rich by now! The damn thing just gets me every time. The other night in bed, my wife reached over and poked at it even, before realising it wasnt an ant, and feeling silly!
Well - apologies again for the meandering, but I simply had to say that. Damn ants...

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I get that a lot!

Crocoshark · 18th February 2011, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by I Ratant

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I get that a lot!

Long as we're taking about your avatar, when I first saw it I placidly stared at it for a minute thinking it was a bug. When I noticed it kept doing a figure 8 I was wondering if it had a brain parasite or some other defect. Then I realized I'd been fooled

Also, Jono74 is one of the most ant tolerant people I've heard of. Isn't there a risk of ants damaging the laptop? The first "computer bug" was a moth getting stuck in the hardware, and also fire ants in Texas will sometimes cause problems crawling inside electrical circuits and traffic lights. I wouldn't be comfortable with ants inside my computer.

Jono74 · 18th February 2011, 08:42 PM

"I get that a lot!"

Ahhhh...... the validation......

Yeah, I'll bet you get that a LOT! Funny stuff....
That was certainly an inspired choice, and it must be getting phenomenal mileage....

Jono74 · 18th February 2011, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Crocoshark

Long as we're taking about your avatar, when I first saw it I placidly stared at it for a minute thinking it was a bug. When I noticed it kept doing a figure 8 I was wondering if it had a brain parasite or some other defect. Then I realized I'd been fooled

Also, Jono74 is one of the most ant tolerant people I've heard of. Isn't there a risk of ants damaging the laptop? The first "computer bug" was a moth getting stuck in the hardware, and also fire ants in Texas will sometimes cause problems crawling inside electrical circuits and traffic lights. I wouldn't be comfortable with ants inside my computer.

Hi Crocoshark (kind of like croco-duck, but even meaner?!)

I actually LOL'd out loud at you wondering if it had a brain parasite, or other defect! Too funny!!!
Re laptop ants: Yeah - I'm pretty tolerant I guess, but try as i might, I cant seem to banish them and am afraid of hurting the laptop with flysprays etc. We also have a colony of them living in the car, in the middle bit where drinks go. Cunning little things. This place we are in has a huge ant problem, but soon it will get too cold for them. They arent conductive, I assume, as they never short out laptop. Not that I could tell - its that slow anyway - cant even tolerate playing a vid and moving cursor at same time - lol.
My wife is training the ants to live outside, by feeding them their favourite - WET JELLYBEANS! YUM say the ants!!
The only prob is sometimes an ant for some unknown reason, will bite one of us hard, when in bed, and just for no reason. Other than that, they're sweet as.

Yeah - I was naieve to think a world ruled by women would be any more peaceful. Leaders, presidents, P.M's etc just seem to be figureheads anyway, with most actions etc being really made by the governments. Maybe if the entire apparatus was constructed entirely of females.....? Hmmm.....

RattyCat · 18th February 2011, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by Lucian

Clearly, they were No True Women.

Umm...

Sledge · 18th February 2011, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by I Ratant

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Mud is easier to make...

But you can eat the jelly when the fight is over.

I Ratant · 19th February 2011, 08:55 AM

It's like getting sand in the Schlitz.... takes a hosing down first.

Wolrab · 19th February 2011, 02:02 PM

Wikilinks would be out of business. All the insults and backbiting would be on the E! channel.

Jono74 · 19th February 2011, 07:57 PM

Or you could eat the women when the jelly is over....

17th February 2011, 09:25 AM	#41
A Laughing Baby A baby. Goo goo ga ga Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,992	Originally Posted by EHocking As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Sarah Palin approaches 1. As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving ANYTHING approaches one. Godwin's law is really dumb. If there was an emoticon of someone angrily crossing their arms, rest assured I'd be using it right now >:[
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17th February 2011, 09:28 AM	#42
JimBenArm Based on a true story! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 12,986	But you do know that every war would be a girl fight! Oh, yeah, I went there!
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17th February 2011, 11:51 AM	#48
Craig4 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5,363	Originally Posted by JimBenArm But you do know that every war would be a girl fight! Oh, yeah, I went there! Could we talk them into having the war in a big vat of jello?
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18th February 2011, 06:45 AM	#49
Cuddles Decoy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land full of pink fluffy sheeps and bunnies Posts: 16,596	Originally Posted by A Laughing Baby As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving ANYTHING approaches one. Godwin's law is really dumb. If there was an emoticon of someone angrily crossing their arms, rest assured I'd be using it right now >:[ There's ~~an app~~ a smiley for that. More on topic, pretty much what everyone else already said. Wars are very different from personal violence. Even if you accept that women are less likely to get into bar fights, that doesn't necessarily make them less likely to send their country to war. You don't get into wars because you're drunk and he shouldn't have said that about our mum, you get into them for a variety of reasons that affect the country as a whole. Since having women in charge wouldn't change the basic makeup of the country, why assume that the leaders would not just make the same decisions?
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18th February 2011, 10:47 AM	#50
JimBenArm Based on a true story! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 12,986	Originally Posted by Craig4 Could we talk them into having the war in a big vat of jello? That would be in the Rules of Engagement, yes.
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17th February 2011, 09:34 AM	#43
Eddie Dane Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,432	I suspect this very question passed the minds of some Argentinian generals at some point in time.

17th February 2011, 09:51 AM	#45
I Ratant Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15,305	Originally Posted by SOdhner I'll admit, I've never actually been in a strip club. Still, I'm intrigued by the idea of sipping bears. Are these live bears? Are you drinking their blood, or is it something sexual? I think I'll still have to pass, but I wouldn't mind learning more about this. ... . Does the "one drop rule" apply here? Wanna be a grizzly? Sip a bear!

17th February 2011, 09:54 AM	#46
I Ratant Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15,305	Originally Posted by bouch You have to thaw the Kangaroos first! . Coming back to Palmdale after dark, and it having snowed there while we were off test flying... one of the wing motors on the Tristar was dragged through a pile of ice and snow at the runway turn off. Ruined the titanium fan blades!

17th February 2011, 11:02 AM	#47
Peacock Scholar Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Location: Location Posts: 83	I always say I fight like a girl........Dirty!

18th February 2011, 11:12 AM	#51
23_Tauri Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 4,947	Originally Posted by Craig4 Could we talk them into having the war in a big vat of jello? Originally Posted by JimBenArm That would be in the Rules of Engagement, yes. Blimey! Why has no-one ever put this idea forward as the way to world peace before? Save all that palaver with air to surface missiles and such like. All we need is some jello, some wet T-shirts, and some ladies.

18th February 2011, 11:14 AM	#53
23_Tauri Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 4,947	And she's having a cig too! If you're going to be un-PC, go the whole hog!

18th February 2011, 07:28 PM	#54
Jono74 Scholar Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Auckland NZ Posts: 83	Hi Debaser. I think what you were talking about; ie: the people who over estimate their abilities in leadership ending up being leaders, even though theyre worst suited to it, while those who are best suited to it underestimate their abilities, might be referred to as the " Dunning-Kruger Effect"? Richard Dawkins also said something to this effect about the religious in america - I cant remember exactly how he said it, but it was a pretty succinct and pithy observation. There was a survey done in this country a while ago by the Automobile Association on driving skills. Typical humans. 80%+ of respondents rated their driving as well above average. Ha ha Anway - Thanks 23 Tauri for starting this one - I've found it really interesting reading peoples thoughts on this, as its something I've wondered about many many times over the years. And I guess I have to agree, that nothing much would really change. Except the increased length of time that grudges would be held. Japan would have had to wait another 900 years to get any sort of army...And some countries would be 'periodically' attacked for not correctly guessing what the other country was thinking and feeling.
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18th February 2011, 07:32 PM	#55
mhaze Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woo*(+-1.10)^20=AGWwoo Posts: 15,395	Originally Posted by 23_Tauri .... The article refers to the idea that if women held all positions of power then there would be little, if any, war. Well, I've read the article and I'm far from convinced. It sounds like more of the growing misandry that has become more common place in recent years..... Well, there might or might not be war. But I know for a fact there'd be a lot of bitching.
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18th February 2011, 07:41 PM	#56
Jono74 Scholar Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Auckland NZ Posts: 83	Hi I Ratant. This is a bit off topic, but I simply HAVE to say it. I've read a LOT of forums here in JREF, having come via one of my favourite podcasts - Skeptoid, and up till now, havent really posted. Kind of getting the feel type thing, before jumping straight in and making a goose of myself. Not that its avoidable in any way. I have a colony of ants living in my laptop. They are good tenants, and clean any and all food crumbs, sweet sticky liquids, etc. At all times, there will be 1 - 3 ants on patrol duty, just sniffing around the keyboard and screen. If one walks on the screen, and angers me, the computer overlord, it gets promptly squashed. The ants never seem to run out - there is always a steady supply of them. Since I found the JREF forums, if I had a dollar for everytime I carefully lined up and jabbed your ant giff icon, I would be really rich by now! The damn thing just gets me every time. The other night in bed, my wife reached over and poked at it even, before realising it wasnt an ant, and feeling silly! Well - apologies again for the meandering, but I simply had to say that. Damn ants...

18th February 2011, 07:48 PM	#57
I Ratant Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15,305	Originally Posted by Jono74 Hi I Ratant. This is a bit off topic, but I simply HAVE to say it. I've read a LOT of forums here in JREF, having come via one of my favourite podcasts - Skeptoid, and up till now, havent really posted. Kind of getting the feel type thing, before jumping straight in and making a goose of myself. Not that its avoidable in any way. I have a colony of ants living in my laptop. They are good tenants, and clean any and all food crumbs, sweet sticky liquids, etc. At all times, there will be 1 - 3 ants on patrol duty, just sniffing around the keyboard and screen. If one walks on the screen, and angers me, the computer overlord, it gets promptly squashed. The ants never seem to run out - there is always a steady supply of them. Since I found the JREF forums, if I had a dollar for everytime I carefully lined up and jabbed your ant giff icon, I would be really rich by now! The damn thing just gets me every time. The other night in bed, my wife reached over and poked at it even, before realising it wasnt an ant, and feeling silly! Well - apologies again for the meandering, but I simply had to say that. Damn ants... . I get that a lot!

18th February 2011, 08:07 PM	#58
Crocoshark Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 357	Originally Posted by I Ratant . I get that a lot! Long as we're taking about your avatar, when I first saw it I placidly stared at it for a minute thinking it was a bug. When I noticed it kept doing a figure 8 I was wondering if it had a brain parasite or some other defect. Then I realized I'd been fooled Also, Jono74 is one of the most ant tolerant people I've heard of. Isn't there a risk of ants damaging the laptop? The first "computer bug" was a moth getting stuck in the hardware, and also fire ants in Texas will sometimes cause problems crawling inside electrical circuits and traffic lights. I wouldn't be comfortable with ants inside my computer.

18th February 2011, 08:42 PM	#59
Jono74 Scholar Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Auckland NZ Posts: 83	"I get that a lot!" Ahhhh...... the validation...... Yeah, I'll bet you get that a LOT! Funny stuff.... That was certainly an inspired choice, and it must be getting phenomenal mileage....

18th February 2011, 08:56 PM	#60
Jono74 Scholar Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Auckland NZ Posts: 83	Originally Posted by Crocoshark Long as we're taking about your avatar, when I first saw it I placidly stared at it for a minute thinking it was a bug. When I noticed it kept doing a figure 8 I was wondering if it had a brain parasite or some other defect. Then I realized I'd been fooled Also, Jono74 is one of the most ant tolerant people I've heard of. Isn't there a risk of ants damaging the laptop? The first "computer bug" was a moth getting stuck in the hardware, and also fire ants in Texas will sometimes cause problems crawling inside electrical circuits and traffic lights. I wouldn't be comfortable with ants inside my computer. Hi Crocoshark (kind of like croco-duck, but even meaner?!) I actually LOL'd out loud at you wondering if it had a brain parasite, or other defect! Too funny!!! Re laptop ants: Yeah - I'm pretty tolerant I guess, but try as i might, I cant seem to banish them and am afraid of hurting the laptop with flysprays etc. We also have a colony of them living in the car, in the middle bit where drinks go. Cunning little things. This place we are in has a huge ant problem, but soon it will get too cold for them. They arent conductive, I assume, as they never short out laptop. Not that I could tell - its that slow anyway - cant even tolerate playing a vid and moving cursor at same time - lol. My wife is training the ants to live outside, by feeding them their favourite - WET JELLYBEANS! YUM say the ants!! The only prob is sometimes an ant for some unknown reason, will bite one of us hard, when in bed, and just for no reason. Other than that, they're sweet as. Yeah - I was naieve to think a world ruled by women would be any more peaceful. Leaders, presidents, P.M's etc just seem to be figureheads anyway, with most actions etc being really made by the governments. Maybe if the entire apparatus was constructed entirely of females.....? Hmmm.....

18th February 2011, 10:53 PM	#61
RattyCat New Blood Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3	Originally Posted by Lucian Clearly, they were No True Women. Umm...
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18th February 2011, 11:21 PM	#62
Sledge Grammaton Cleric Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Swingin' on a star Posts: 7,123	Originally Posted by I Ratant . Mud is easier to make... But you can eat the jelly when the fight is over.
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19th February 2011, 08:55 AM	#63
I Ratant Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15,305	It's like getting sand in the Schlitz.... takes a hosing down first.

19th February 2011, 02:02 PM	#64
Wolrab Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Beautiful Finger Lakes Posts: 1,711	Wikilinks would be out of business. All the insults and backbiting would be on the E! channel.

19th February 2011, 07:57 PM	#65
Jono74 Scholar Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Auckland NZ Posts: 83	Or you could eat the women when the jelly is over....