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RecoveringYuppy · 18th February 2011, 12:39 PM

There is some good news coming out of the bad economy:

http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work...the-trash-pile

Quacks are going out of business. Article says homeopaths are becoming a "luxury item" though.

saraban · 18th February 2011, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy

There is some good news coming out of the bad economy:

http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work...the-trash-pile

Quacks are going out of business. Article says homeopaths are becoming a "luxury item" though.

Are they using Perrier now?

RecoveringYuppy · 18th February 2011, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by saraban

Are they using Perrier now?

Homeopathic medicines are more expensive water than Perrier. And, like art, the more it costs the better you have to imagine it to be.

23_Tauri · 18th February 2011, 01:01 PM

At 99p a litre is Tesco, Perrier water is still cheaper than petrol (£1.30 per litre) but when the bottled water companies also start going out of business because people cotton on to the fact that it's a scam too then I'll happy twice over.

aggle-rithm · 18th February 2011, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy

Homeopathic medicines are more expensive water than Perrier. And, like art, the more it costs the better you have to imagine it to be.

Especially since the water has evaporated away in many cases....

godless dave · 18th February 2011, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by 23_Tauri

At 99p a litre is Tesco, Perrier water is still cheaper than petrol (£1.30 per litre) but when the bottled water companies also start going out of business because people cotton on to the fact that it's a scam too then I'll happy twice over.

Depends what you mean by scam.

Bottled water tastes better to me than most tap water.

Is it healthier than most tap water? Certainly not in the United States.

Squeegee Beckenheim · 18th February 2011, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by godless dave

Bottled water tastes better to me than most tap water.

Have you ever done a blind taste test?

http://www.nrdc.org/water/drinking/qbw.asp

Quote:

[...]an estimated 25 percent or more of bottled water is really just tap water in a bottle -- sometimes further treated, sometimes not.

You'd probably do better to invest in a water filter. Same result, much less money in the long run.

Safe-Keeper · 18th February 2011, 02:49 PM

Quote:

At 99p a litre is Tesco, Perrier water is still cheaper than petrol (£1.30 per litre) but when the bottled water companies also start going out of business because people cotton on to the fact that it's a scam too then I'll happy twice over.

How is it a scam? You get exactly what is advertised, a plastic bottle filled with water. If you don't have a free source of water handy, it's as good a way to get hydrated as any other

Tumblehome · 18th February 2011, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by saraban

Are they using Perrier now?

Diluted to virtually nothing with tap water to get the full taste, of course.

23_Tauri · 19th February 2011, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

How is it a scam? You get exactly what is advertised, a plastic bottle filled with water. If you don't have a free source of water handy, it's as good a way to get hydrated as any other

There was a thread about the pros and cons of bottled water last year:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...=bottled+water

I don't want to derail the main topic of this thread, so we could resurrect the above thread if people would like. Otherwise, in short, I get what you're saying safe-keeper, and admit that bottled water is not a scam in the same sense as homeopathy. After all, it does exactly what it says on the bottle!

What I find perverse is that people buy so much bottled water in my country (England) when we are fortunate enough to have an excellent system of water companies who keep the tap water safe to drink. And we pay enough for it too, so why pay again?

But then, people spend their money on all kinds of things that I wouldn't choose to buy.

MrBooglemaumau · 20th February 2011, 08:49 PM

Quacks are a dying breed ?...Ahhhh,I feel so good ! Now for "Kosmodisk" and associated junk/scammy product producers,and I'll be on top of the world....Wasn't the Bottled Water saga started by some stupid Celeb,because they thought it was cool [no pun intended] ?, or am I opening the wrong tap again ?

Ladewig · 20th February 2011, 09:13 PM

If the entire history of the human race is worth believing, they'll be back.

Hitch · 21st February 2011, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by 23_Tauri

There was a thread about the pros and cons of bottled water last year:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...=bottled+water

I don't want to derail the main topic of this thread, so we could resurrect the above thread if people would like. Otherwise, in short, I get what you're saying safe-keeper, and admit that bottled water is not a scam in the same sense as homeopathy. After all, it does exactly what it says on the bottle!

What I find perverse is that people buy so much bottled water in my country (England) when we are fortunate enough to have an excellent system of water companies who keep the tap water safe to drink. And we pay enough for it too, so why pay again?

But then, people spend their money on all kinds of things that I wouldn't choose to buy.

Depends on what is said on the bottle, both what's implied by the name and what it really says in the fine print. The brand name may imply pure, natural spring water, but the ingredients usually show something more along the lines of, city water supply water from wherever the bottling plant is, filtered, with a few preservatives added.

23_Tauri · 21st February 2011, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Hitch

Depends on what is said on the bottle, both what's implied by the name and what it really says in the fine print. The brand name may imply pure, natural spring water, but the ingredients usually show something more along the lines of, city water supply water from wherever the bottling plant is, filtered, with a few preservatives added.

Oh yeah, of course, the Dasani, aka London Tap Water, scandal

Also, the word 'natural' on any food or drink label is completely meaningless.

pipelineaudio · 21st February 2011, 05:26 PM

more than dozens of times, the scam of bottled water in the middle of the desert has kept me alive

Tumblehome · 21st February 2011, 05:35 PM

Would you have died if you had bottles filled with tap water?

pipelineaudio · 21st February 2011, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by Tumblehome

Would you have died if you had bottles filled with tap water?

They were bottles filled with tap water. Some of them anyhow. Either way its the bottles that matter

Tumblehome · 21st February 2011, 08:27 PM

Sorry, I thought you were referring to the "purity" of the water. My mistake.

pipelineaudio · 21st February 2011, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Tumblehome

Sorry, I thought you were referring to the "purity" of the water. My mistake.

Yeah, our tapwater is pretty safe according to any reports we get. The problem is its chlorinated, which is REALLY unpleasant at 125 degrees. Usually we fill the big jugs at the 25cent per gallon machine, which is the same machine we use for the water part of our radiator mix. We usually fill up our canteens and water bottles at friends' houses with well water. I guess the point is, I wouldnt call it a scam. Its water, in a nice safe bottle. As a bonus its usually unchlorinated too.

Tumblehome · 21st February 2011, 09:29 PM

I think the scam they're talking about here is the claim that commercial bottled water is somehow purer, but the bottles are an issue, too. I take bottles of tap water to work but I reuse them. The longest I've gone is about six months before losing or breaking one. And thankfully I don't have to worry about 125 degree heat.

That's like walking on the sun to me.

18th February 2011, 12:39 PM	#1
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18th February 2011, 12:40 PM	#2
saraban Joined Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 843	Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy There is some good news coming out of the bad economy: http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work...the-trash-pile Quacks are going out of business. Article says homeopaths are becoming a "luxury item" though. Are they using Perrier now?
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18th February 2011, 12:47 PM	#3
RecoveringYuppy Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,877	Originally Posted by saraban Are they using Perrier now? Homeopathic medicines are more expensive water than Perrier. And, like art, the more it costs the better you have to imagine it to be.
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18th February 2011, 01:09 PM	#5
aggle-rithm Ardent Formulist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 14,297	Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy Homeopathic medicines are more expensive water than Perrier. And, like art, the more it costs the better you have to imagine it to be. Especially since the water has evaporated away in many cases....
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18th February 2011, 02:10 PM	#6
godless dave Great Dalmuti Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: St. Paul, Minnesota Posts: 6,137	Originally Posted by 23_Tauri At 99p a litre is Tesco, Perrier water is still cheaper than petrol (£1.30 per litre) but when the bottled water companies also start going out of business because people cotton on to the fact that it's a scam too then I'll happy twice over. Depends what you mean by scam. Bottled water tastes better to me than most tap water. Is it healthier than most tap water? Certainly not in the United States.
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18th February 2011, 01:01 PM	#4
23_Tauri Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 4,947	At 99p a litre is Tesco, Perrier water is still cheaper than petrol (£1.30 per litre) but when the bottled water companies also start going out of business because people cotton on to the fact that it's a scam too then I'll happy twice over.

18th February 2011, 02:29 PM	#7
Squeegee Beckenheim Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 4,429	Originally Posted by godless dave Bottled water tastes better to me than most tap water. Have you ever done a blind taste test? http://www.nrdc.org/water/drinking/qbw.asp Quote: [...]an estimated 25 percent or more of bottled water is really just tap water in a bottle -- sometimes further treated, sometimes not. You'd probably do better to invest in a water filter. Same result, much less money in the long run.

18th February 2011, 02:49 PM	#8
Safe-Keeper Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sogndal, Norway Posts: 7,176	Quote: At 99p a litre is Tesco, Perrier water is still cheaper than petrol (£1.30 per litre) but when the bottled water companies also start going out of business because people cotton on to the fact that it's a scam too then I'll happy twice over. How is it a scam? You get exactly what is advertised, a plastic bottle filled with water. If you don't have a free source of water handy, it's as good a way to get hydrated as any other
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18th February 2011, 09:30 PM	#9
Tumblehome Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Beside the point Posts: 1,445	Originally Posted by saraban Are they using Perrier now? Diluted to virtually nothing with tap water to get the full taste, of course.

19th February 2011, 08:44 AM	#10
23_Tauri Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 4,947	Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper How is it a scam? You get exactly what is advertised, a plastic bottle filled with water. If you don't have a free source of water handy, it's as good a way to get hydrated as any other There was a thread about the pros and cons of bottled water last year: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...=bottled+water I don't want to derail the main topic of this thread, so we could resurrect the above thread if people would like. Otherwise, in short, I get what you're saying safe-keeper, and admit that bottled water is not a scam in the same sense as homeopathy. After all, it does exactly what it says on the bottle! What I find perverse is that people buy so much bottled water in my country (England) when we are fortunate enough to have an excellent system of water companies who keep the tap water safe to drink. And we pay enough for it too, so why pay again? But then, people spend their money on all kinds of things that I wouldn't choose to buy.

20th February 2011, 08:49 PM	#11
MrBooglemaumau Critical Thinker Join Date: May 2010 Location: other side of Aldebaran Posts: 343	Quacks are a dying breed ?...Ahhhh,I feel so good ! Now for "Kosmodisk" and associated junk/scammy product producers,and I'll be on top of the world....Wasn't the Bottled Water saga started by some stupid Celeb,because they thought it was cool [no pun intended] ?, or am I opening the wrong tap again ?

20th February 2011, 09:13 PM	#12
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21st February 2011, 11:36 AM	#13
Hitch Muse Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 861	Originally Posted by 23_Tauri There was a thread about the pros and cons of bottled water last year: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...=bottled+water I don't want to derail the main topic of this thread, so we could resurrect the above thread if people would like. Otherwise, in short, I get what you're saying safe-keeper, and admit that bottled water is not a scam in the same sense as homeopathy. After all, it does exactly what it says on the bottle! What I find perverse is that people buy so much bottled water in my country (England) when we are fortunate enough to have an excellent system of water companies who keep the tap water safe to drink. And we pay enough for it too, so why pay again? But then, people spend their money on all kinds of things that I wouldn't choose to buy. Depends on what is said on the bottle, both what's implied by the name and what it really says in the fine print. The brand name may imply pure, natural spring water, but the ingredients usually show something more along the lines of, city water supply water from wherever the bottling plant is, filtered, with a few preservatives added.
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21st February 2011, 01:39 PM	#14
23_Tauri Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 4,947	Originally Posted by Hitch Depends on what is said on the bottle, both what's implied by the name and what it really says in the fine print. The brand name may imply pure, natural spring water, but the ingredients usually show something more along the lines of, city water supply water from wherever the bottling plant is, filtered, with a few preservatives added. Oh yeah, of course, the Dasani, aka London Tap Water, scandal Also, the word 'natural' on any food or drink label is completely meaningless.

21st February 2011, 05:26 PM	#15
pipelineaudio Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wickenburg, AZ Posts: 3,674	more than dozens of times, the scam of bottled water in the middle of the desert has kept me alive
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21st February 2011, 05:35 PM	#16
Tumblehome Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Beside the point Posts: 1,445	Would you have died if you had bottles filled with tap water?

21st February 2011, 08:23 PM	#17
pipelineaudio Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wickenburg, AZ Posts: 3,674	Originally Posted by Tumblehome Would you have died if you had bottles filled with tap water? They were bottles filled with tap water. Some of them anyhow. Either way its the bottles that matter
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21st February 2011, 08:27 PM	#18
Tumblehome Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Beside the point Posts: 1,445	Sorry, I thought you were referring to the "purity" of the water. My mistake.

21st February 2011, 08:38 PM	#19
pipelineaudio Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wickenburg, AZ Posts: 3,674	Originally Posted by Tumblehome Sorry, I thought you were referring to the "purity" of the water. My mistake. Yeah, our tapwater is pretty safe according to any reports we get. The problem is its chlorinated, which is REALLY unpleasant at 125 degrees. Usually we fill the big jugs at the 25cent per gallon machine, which is the same machine we use for the water part of our radiator mix. We usually fill up our canteens and water bottles at friends' houses with well water. I guess the point is, I wouldnt call it a scam. Its water, in a nice safe bottle. As a bonus its usually unchlorinated too.
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21st February 2011, 09:29 PM	#20
Tumblehome Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Beside the point Posts: 1,445	I think the scam they're talking about here is the claim that commercial bottled water is somehow purer, but the bottles are an issue, too. I take bottles of tap water to work but I reuse them. The longest I've gone is about six months before losing or breaking one. And thankfully I don't have to worry about 125 degree heat. That's like walking on the sun to me.