Wisconsin still finds money to buy an adult store...

BenBurch · 27th February 2011, 06:08 PM

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But even though that same union-busting bill Walker supports will also give the (Republican-controlled) legislature the power unilaterally to "cut eligibility, increase premiums and cut back on benefits" for families off BadgerCare, the state program which provides health insurance to "low-income, uninsured families with children under the age of 19 who are not eligible for Medicaid and who are uninsured," it still found enough cash in the budget to authorize the state Department of Transportation (WDOT) to pay Supreme Lingerie and Gift $1.4 million to give up its store on North Washburn Street and move three miles down the road ... to South Washburn Street.

BenBurch · 27th February 2011, 06:14 PM

http://www.jsonline.com/business/116965798.html

deepatrax · 27th February 2011, 06:18 PM

interesting...sounds like this relocation has been in the works for a while

"the WDOT had been negotiating with Supreme's owner for several years to relocate the store so the state could finish widening North Washburn Street into a four-lane roadway. "

respect · 27th February 2011, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by deepatrax

interesting...sounds like this relocation has been in the works for a while

"the WDOT had been negotiating with Supreme's owner for several years to relocate the store so the state could finish widening North Washburn Street into a four-lane roadway. "

This thread has been rendered pointless.

deepatrax · 27th February 2011, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by BenBurch

http://www.jsonline.com/business/116965798.html

who are the "cronies"??

I know it says this:

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Common Cause of Wisconsin, a government watchdog group, raised concerns that the no-bid clause could have been written to benefit a campaign donor such as Koch Industries, the largest corporate contributor to Gov. Scott Walker in the campaign.

and it also says this:

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Koch Industries denied any interest in buying the plants.

Newtons Bit · 27th February 2011, 06:37 PM

It appears there is some EXTREME stretching by the left on this issue...

WildCat · 27th February 2011, 07:57 PM

Come on Ben, you're smart enough not to push this nonsense.

Travis · 28th February 2011, 03:57 AM

So he wants to abolish public education and still widen roads?

JAStewart · 28th February 2011, 04:09 AM

Wonder why it matters that its an adult store? It's a legal, legitimate part of the US economy,

WildCat · 28th February 2011, 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by Travis

So he wants to abolish public education and still widen roads?

And the road project has been years in the making, the money was already allocated before Walker was governor. And why do you think road construction should be stopped entirely in lean times yet far more expensive HSR projects should be implemented?

BenBurch · 28th February 2011, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by JAStewart

Wonder why it matters that its an adult store? It's a legal, legitimate part of the US economy,

It matters because;

1. You cancel projects like this when you can't afford basic services. Sure you could have been planning it for years, but I cannot see where that matters. You have allocated funds, fine, deallocate them. You don't need to widen urban roads if you cannot pay for education and basic police and fire services. And the road project as a whole will be many millions more than this.
2. It was a hell of a lot more expensive because of laws that force such business to be far from people for reasons of moral disgust.

eeyore1954 · 28th February 2011, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by Travis

So he wants to abolish public education and still widen roads?

Do you really mean what you say here?

WildCat · 28th February 2011, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by BenBurch

It matters because;

1. You cancel projects like this when you can't afford basic services. Sure you could have been planning it for years, but I cannot see where that matters. You have allocated funds, fine, deallocate them. You don't need to widen urban roads if you cannot pay for education and basic police and fire services. And the road project as a whole will be many millions more than this.

The project is ongoing. If you look at the Google Maps aerial photo you can see the road has already been widened right up until it gets to Supreme Video.

You really think that all road construction in WI should be stopped? Weren't you advocating a HSR to Milwaukee just a week or 2 ago?

Originally Posted by BenBurch

2. It was a hell of a lot more expensive because of laws that force such business to be far from people for reasons of moral disgust.

But those are Oshkosh laws, the state and Walker has nothing to do with that.

rwguinn · 28th February 2011, 07:32 AM

Republicans want to abolish unions, kill protesters, and kill education
Democrats want to take wealth away, take rights away, quit improving our infrastructure, and install a welfare state
Obviously, there is no middle ground anywhere. We're doomed.

Beerina · 28th February 2011, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by BenBurch

http://www.jsonline.com/business/116965798.html

Although I think government should be in the business of being minimalist, I'm against sell-offs for the purpose of balancing the budget. It shows extreme lack of discipline as the jackwads in office burn decades of built-up property for a year or two of not cutting back.

The tobacco settlements, supposedly to offset decades of states paying medical bills, were burned over a year or two in exactly the same manner.

rwguinn · 28th February 2011, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by BenBurch

That's exactly the kind of thing you "poo-poo"ed on the HSR/HST thread(s) as a minor problem, when it was pointed out that you actually have to buy the right-of-way.
Can't you keep your arguments consistent?
Or is a case of "we'll take what we want and to hell with property rights"?

27th February 2011, 06:08 PM	#1
BenBurch Gatekeeper of The Left Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Universe 35.2 ms ahead of this one. Posts: 32,184	Wisconsin still finds money to buy an adult store... http://business.avn.com/articles/vid...on-427110.html Quote: But even though that same union-busting bill Walker supports will also give the (Republican-controlled) legislature the power unilaterally to "cut eligibility, increase premiums and cut back on benefits" for families off BadgerCare, the state program which provides health insurance to "low-income, uninsured families with children under the age of 19 who are not eligible for Medicaid and who are uninsured," it still found enough cash in the budget to authorize the state Department of Transportation (WDOT) to pay Supreme Lingerie and Gift $1.4 million to give up its store on North Washburn Street and move three miles down the road ... to South Washburn Street.
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28th February 2011, 04:09 AM	#9
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27th February 2011, 06:18 PM	#3
deepatrax Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,247	interesting...sounds like this relocation has been in the works for a while "the WDOT had been negotiating with Supreme's owner for several years to relocate the store so the state could finish widening North Washburn Street into a four-lane roadway. "

27th February 2011, 06:21 PM	#4
respect Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bohemian Grove Posts: 3,517	Originally Posted by deepatrax interesting...sounds like this relocation has been in the works for a while "the WDOT had been negotiating with Supreme's owner for several years to relocate the store so the state could finish widening North Washburn Street into a four-lane roadway. " This thread has been rendered pointless.

27th February 2011, 06:32 PM	#5
deepatrax Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,247	Originally Posted by BenBurch http://www.jsonline.com/business/116965798.html who are the "cronies"?? I know it says this: Quote: Common Cause of Wisconsin, a government watchdog group, raised concerns that the no-bid clause could have been written to benefit a campaign donor such as Koch Industries, the largest corporate contributor to Gov. Scott Walker in the campaign. and it also says this: Quote: Koch Industries denied any interest in buying the plants.

27th February 2011, 07:57 PM	#7
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 49,077	Come on Ben, you're smart enough not to push this nonsense.

28th February 2011, 05:46 AM	#10
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 49,077	Originally Posted by Travis So he wants to abolish public education and still widen roads? And the road project has been years in the making, the money was already allocated before Walker was governor. And why do you think road construction should be stopped entirely in lean times yet far more expensive HSR projects should be implemented?

28th February 2011, 06:05 AM	#11
BenBurch Gatekeeper of The Left Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Universe 35.2 ms ahead of this one. Posts: 32,184	Originally Posted by JAStewart Wonder why it matters that its an adult store? It's a legal, legitimate part of the US economy, It matters because; 1. You cancel projects like this when you can't afford basic services. Sure you could have been planning it for years, but I cannot see where that matters. You have allocated funds, fine, deallocate them. You don't need to widen urban roads if you cannot pay for education and basic police and fire services. And the road project as a whole will be many millions more than this. 2. It was a hell of a lot more expensive because of laws that force such business to be far from people for reasons of moral disgust.
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28th February 2011, 07:22 AM	#13
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 49,077	Originally Posted by BenBurch It matters because; 1. You cancel projects like this when you can't afford basic services. Sure you could have been planning it for years, but I cannot see where that matters. You have allocated funds, fine, deallocate them. You don't need to widen urban roads if you cannot pay for education and basic police and fire services. And the road project as a whole will be many millions more than this. The project is ongoing. If you look at the Google Maps aerial photo you can see the road has already been widened right up until it gets to Supreme Video. You really think that all road construction in WI should be stopped? Weren't you advocating a HSR to Milwaukee just a week or 2 ago? Originally Posted by BenBurch 2. It was a hell of a lot more expensive because of laws that force such business to be far from people for reasons of moral disgust. But those are Oshkosh laws, the state and Walker has nothing to do with that.

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28th February 2011, 08:46 AM	#16
rwguinn Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 16 miles from 7 lakes Posts: 8,447	Originally Posted by BenBurch http://business.avn.com/articles/vid...on-427110.html That's exactly the kind of thing you "poo-poo"ed on the HSR/HST thread(s) as a minor problem, when it was pointed out that you actually have to buy the right-of-way. Can't you keep your arguments consistent? Or is a case of "we'll take what we want and to hell with property rights"?
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