CIA Psychologist's Notes Reveal True Purpose Behind Bush's Torture Program

INRM · 27th March 2011, 08:40 PM

Title: CIA Psychologist's Notes Reveal True Purpose Behind Bush's Torture Program
URL: http://www.truth-out.org/cia-psychol...e-program68542

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Bush administration officials have long asserted that the torture techniques used on "war on terror" detainees were utilized as a last resort in an effort to gain actionable intelligence to thwart pending terrorist attacks against the United States and its interests abroad.

But the handwritten notes obtained exclusively by Truthout drafted two decades ago by Dr. John Bruce Jessen, the psychologist who was under contract to the CIA and credited as being one of the architects of the government's top-secret torture program, tell a dramatically different story about the reasons detainees were brutalized and it was not just about obtaining intelligence.

Ausmerican · 27th March 2011, 10:02 PM

Well, hey, dont tell us the reason or anything useful like that.

GrouchoMarxist · 27th March 2011, 10:09 PM

Yeah, no offense INRM, but I already followed that firedoglake link from the other thread and I think you owe me one.

Chaos · 28th March 2011, 01:11 AM

I´ve asked this question many times before, INRM, and you have always run away from it: Is there any piece of paranoid BS that you will not swallow hook, line and sinker?

This time, please answer the question.

INRM · 28th March 2011, 02:20 PM

Ausmerican,

Quote:

Well, hey, dont tell us the reason or anything useful like that.

That's why there's a link...

Chaos,

Quote:

Is there any piece of paranoid BS that you will not swallow hook, line and sinker?

Yes

Chaos · 28th March 2011, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by INRM

Yes

Which one?

So far, you have shown us that, no matter how brainless, retarded or moronic some conspiracy theory is, you will present it here as if it was the most reasonable idea ever.

Beerina · 29th March 2011, 11:41 PM

You have to get way the heck down the article to find out why, besides giving up info, they want to create compliant prisoners: informers and double agents

They seem to be saying, well, here's what the training is for US soldiers, should they be captured, and what to look for and why they are doing it to you, and hey, it's kinda like what was happening.

27th March 2011, 08:40 PM	#1
INRM Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 5,490	CIA Psychologist's Notes Reveal True Purpose Behind Bush's Torture Program Title: CIA Psychologist's Notes Reveal True Purpose Behind Bush's Torture Program URL: http://www.truth-out.org/cia-psychol...e-program68542 Quote: Bush administration officials have long asserted that the torture techniques used on "war on terror" detainees were utilized as a last resort in an effort to gain actionable intelligence to thwart pending terrorist attacks against the United States and its interests abroad. But the handwritten notes obtained exclusively by Truthout drafted two decades ago by Dr. John Bruce Jessen, the psychologist who was under contract to the CIA and credited as being one of the architects of the government's top-secret torture program, tell a dramatically different story about the reasons detainees were brutalized and it was not just about obtaining intelligence.
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27th March 2011, 10:02 PM	#2
Ausmerican Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,381	Well, hey, dont tell us the reason or anything useful like that.
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27th March 2011, 10:09 PM	#3
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28th March 2011, 01:11 AM	#4
Chaos TAM Chocolate Dispenser Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Heart of Old Europe Posts: 9,776	I´ve asked this question many times before, INRM, and you have always run away from it: Is there any piece of paranoid BS that you will not swallow hook, line and sinker? This time, please answer the question.
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28th March 2011, 02:20 PM	#5
INRM Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 5,490	Ausmerican, Quote: Well, hey, dont tell us the reason or anything useful like that. That's why there's a link... Chaos, Quote: Is there any piece of paranoid BS that you will not swallow hook, line and sinker? Yes
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28th March 2011, 02:28 PM	#6
Chaos TAM Chocolate Dispenser Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Heart of Old Europe Posts: 9,776	Originally Posted by INRM Yes Which one? So far, you have shown us that, no matter how brainless, retarded or moronic some conspiracy theory is, you will present it here as if it was the most reasonable idea ever.
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29th March 2011, 11:41 PM	#7
Beerina Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: A floating island above the clouds Posts: 23,835	You have to get way the heck down the article to find out why, besides giving up info, they want to create compliant prisoners: informers and double agents They seem to be saying, well, here's what the training is for US soldiers, should they be captured, and what to look for and why they are doing it to you, and hey, it's kinda like what was happening.
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