Sai Baba dead

commandlinegamer · 24th April 2011, 04:10 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13180011

Or is he? It's Easter; maybe he's planning a spectacular second coming. In any event it doesn't seem to be quite the right time yet. He did say he would live to be 95 (or 96, or 92, 93, etc.)

http://www.saibaba-x.org.uk/1/howlong.html

Joey McGee · 24th April 2011, 04:21 AM

If he goes for the resurrection hoax I will be impressed. Then it could be said that he performed all the same miracles as Christ. (Well, not exactly water into wine, but water into gasoline, clearly a man of the times)

Yeah I guess two Sai Baba threads on the go wasn't quite enough. He certainly deserves a serious wallop of disdain on this day. Now that we have three no one visiting can possibly miss the news! Here's to exposing his crimes to the world! May he be the last superguru.

Tatyana · 24th April 2011, 04:35 AM

He was 84, I think it was just the ravages of old age, a chest infection and renal failure.

Aepervius · 24th April 2011, 06:15 AM

I betcha a gazillon dollar, that some "child" will be found to be his reincarnation, either now or a bit later, and that the scam will go on that way ?

Who wanna bet ?

Joey McGee · 24th April 2011, 07:17 AM

Judging by the articles and comments I've seen today this ***** got away with it. Even at sites usually critical of obvious cons people are apologizing for his good works. The level of understanding of how cults work is just shockingly low everywhere, obviously. I've taken the liberty to briskly update these dimwits on the reality of his crimes, but I can't spam the entire internet in one day unfortunately.

It doesn't matter how many freaking hospitals and orphanages a fraudulent, child-abusing sociopath builds!

rjh01 · 24th April 2011, 09:56 PM

SWIFT.
ANOTHER BABA LEAVES THE SCENE

Aepervius · 25th April 2011, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by Joey McGee

Judging by the articles and comments I've seen today this ***** got away with it. Even at sites usually critical of obvious cons people are apologizing for his good works. The level of understanding of how cults work is just shockingly low everywhere, obviously. I've taken the liberty to briskly update these dimwits on the reality of his crimes, but I can't spam the entire internet in one day unfortunately.

It doesn't matter how many freaking hospitals and orphanages a fraudulent, child-abusing sociopath builds!

That is the usual schtick of journalist not speaking bad of people. I betcha if Hitler died today some of them would find the way to put it in a neutral way.

Jeff Corey · 25th April 2011, 04:35 AM

The president of the Indian Rationalist Association and Rationalist International agrees with Randi.

Joey McGee · 25th April 2011, 04:40 AM

Originally Posted by Jeff Corey

The president of the Indian Rationalist Association and Rationalist International agrees with Randi. https://weboutlook.liunet.edu/exchan...a.EML?Cmd=open

It's asking us to login... can we know your password jcorey?

Jeff Corey · 25th April 2011, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by Joey McGee

It's asking us to login... can we know your password jcorey?

I can't get the link to the Rationalist International Bulletin to work.

Joey McGee · 25th April 2011, 05:00 AM

Sanal Edamaruku (a great man), president of the Indian Rationalist Association and Rationalist International, statement on Sai Baba

amb · 25th April 2011, 05:05 AM

Soooo, another guru hits the dust?

Jeff Corey · 25th April 2011, 05:12 AM

Originally Posted by Joey McGee

Sanal Edamaruku (a great man), president of the Indian Rationalist Association and Rationalist International, statement on Sai Baba

That's it. Thanks.

Beerina · 25th April 2011, 08:48 AM

Premenand, Indian arch-skeptic, once took him to court for magically producing gold Rolexes, charging:

1. Importation of gold without a license.
2. Violation of Rolex trademarks for producing copies without authorization*.

The judge, IIRC, bailed pathetically, claiming something along the lines of courts having no power over miracles**.

* Note that God producing a "real" Rolex, as opposed to a "real" Rolex knock-off, is still a violation.

** Ironically, that would be true, if gods and miracles were real. However, people using acts of gods to import gold or violate trademarks are definitely under the court's jurisdiction. Clearly Sai Baba was requesting these things appear and not having them just miraculously show up, unasked.

And even if they showed up, unasked, they should be seized***. Actually, if the god made a "real" Rolex, provenance tracing should be attempted to see if the God conjured it up out of nothingness, picked up a lost one down a sewer somewhere, bought it at a store, or stole it from some unlucky soul elsewhere. Two of those holy activities are illegal.

*** But only for trademark violation. Importation of gold or products should not be banned nor bannable, barring a decision by the legislature to refuse to deal with countries with literal, not figurative, slave labor.

TimCallahan · 27th April 2011, 09:59 PM

Think of Dorothy's landing in the land of Oz (in the movie):

Ding-dong, Sai Baba's dead!
He's so dead - dead, dead, dead.
He's so dead, as dead as dead can be!

The_Fire · 27th April 2011, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by Aepervius

I betcha a gazillon dollar, that some "child" will be found to be his reincarnation, either now or a bit later, and that the scam will go on that way ?

Who wanna bet ?

Sorry, I don't do sucker bets.....

plumjam · 27th April 2011, 10:05 PM

Ashes to ashes.

Hercules Rockefeller · 28th April 2011, 01:52 AM

Will the WBC be picketing his funeral?

hgc · 30th April 2011, 02:37 AM

One of my closest friends at work is a huge devotee to Sai Baba, and was quite devastated. When she told me the news the other day, I just consoled her and kept my mouth shut about his obvious magical trickery. How do people fall for that? Haven't they seen a hundred different stage magicians do the exact same tricks?

Zep · 30th April 2011, 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by hgc

One of my closest friends at work is a huge devotee to Sai Baba, and was quite devastated. When she told me the news the other day, I just consoled her and kept my mouth shut about his obvious magical trickery. How do people fall for that? Haven't they seen a hundred different stage magicians do the exact same tricks?

Usually not. They find it easier to accept what they prefer and deny the obvious.

24th April 2011, 04:10 AM	#1
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24th April 2011, 04:21 AM	#2
Joey McGee Transcendental Naturalist Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,105	If he goes for the resurrection hoax I will be impressed. Then it could be said that he performed all the same miracles as Christ. (Well, not exactly water into wine, but water into gasoline, clearly a man of the times) Yeah I guess two Sai Baba threads on the go wasn't quite enough. He certainly deserves a serious wallop of disdain on this day. Now that we have three no one visiting can possibly miss the news! Here's to exposing his crimes to the world! May he be the last superguru.
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24th April 2011, 06:15 AM	#4
Aepervius Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bierland. I mean , germany. Posts: 7,735	I betcha a gazillon dollar, that some "child" will be found to be his reincarnation, either now or a bit later, and that the scam will go on that way ? Who wanna bet ?
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24th April 2011, 07:17 AM	#5
Joey McGee Transcendental Naturalist Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,105	Judging by the articles and comments I've seen today this ***** got away with it. Even at sites usually critical of obvious cons people are apologizing for his good works. The level of understanding of how cults work is just shockingly low everywhere, obviously. I've taken the liberty to briskly update these dimwits on the reality of his crimes, but I can't spam the entire internet in one day unfortunately. It doesn't matter how many freaking hospitals and orphanages a fraudulent, child-abusing sociopath builds!
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25th April 2011, 12:23 AM	#7
Aepervius Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bierland. I mean , germany. Posts: 7,735	Originally Posted by Joey McGee Judging by the articles and comments I've seen today this ***** got away with it. Even at sites usually critical of obvious cons people are apologizing for his good works. The level of understanding of how cults work is just shockingly low everywhere, obviously. I've taken the liberty to briskly update these dimwits on the reality of his crimes, but I can't spam the entire internet in one day unfortunately. It doesn't matter how many freaking hospitals and orphanages a fraudulent, child-abusing sociopath builds! That is the usual schtick of journalist not speaking bad of people. I betcha if Hitler died today some of them would find the way to put it in a neutral way.
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24th April 2011, 04:35 AM	#3
Tatyana Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Experiment 1: Flame and Flesh Posts: 3,431	He was 84, I think it was just the ravages of old age, a chest infection and renal failure.

24th April 2011, 09:56 PM	#6
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 17,169	SWIFT. ANOTHER BABA LEAVES THE SCENE

25th April 2011, 04:35 AM	#8
Jeff Corey New York Skeptic Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,794	The president of the Indian Rationalist Association and Rationalist International agrees with Randi.
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25th April 2011, 04:40 AM	#9
Joey McGee Transcendental Naturalist Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,105	Originally Posted by Jeff Corey The president of the Indian Rationalist Association and Rationalist International agrees with Randi. https://weboutlook.liunet.edu/exchan...a.EML?Cmd=open It's asking us to login... can we know your password jcorey?
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25th April 2011, 04:47 AM	#10
Jeff Corey New York Skeptic Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,794	Originally Posted by Joey McGee It's asking us to login... can we know your password jcorey? I can't get the link to the Rationalist International Bulletin to work.

25th April 2011, 05:00 AM	#11
Joey McGee Transcendental Naturalist Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,105	Sanal Edamaruku (a great man), president of the Indian Rationalist Association and Rationalist International, statement on Sai Baba
	__________________ How do I know that this is so? By looking!

25th April 2011, 05:05 AM	#12
amb Guest Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 21,408	Soooo, another guru hits the dust?

25th April 2011, 05:12 AM	#13
Jeff Corey New York Skeptic Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,794	Originally Posted by Joey McGee Sanal Edamaruku (a great man), president of the Indian Rationalist Association and Rationalist International, statement on Sai Baba That's it. Thanks.

25th April 2011, 08:48 AM	#14
Beerina Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: A floating island above the clouds Posts: 23,835	Premenand, Indian arch-skeptic, once took him to court for magically producing gold Rolexes, charging: 1. Importation of gold without a license. 2. Violation of Rolex trademarks for producing copies without authorization. The judge, IIRC, bailed pathetically, claiming something along the lines of courts having no power over miracles. Note that God producing a "real" Rolex, as opposed to a "real" Rolex knock-off, is still a violation. Ironically, that would be true, if gods and miracles were real. However, people using acts of gods to import gold or violate trademarks are definitely under the court's jurisdiction. Clearly Sai Baba was requesting these things appear and not having them just miraculously show up, unasked. And even if they showed up, unasked, they should be seized. Actually, if the god made a "real" Rolex, provenance tracing should be attempted to see if the God conjured it up out of nothingness, picked up a lost one down a sewer somewhere, bought it at a store, or stole it from some unlucky soul elsewhere. Two of those holy activities are illegal. ** But only for trademark violation. Importation of gold or products should not be banned nor bannable, barring a decision by the legislature to refuse to deal with countries with literal, not figurative, slave labor.
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27th April 2011, 09:59 PM	#15
TimCallahan Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,117	Think of Dorothy's landing in the land of Oz (in the movie): Ding-dong, Sai Baba's dead! He's so dead - dead, dead, dead. He's so dead, as dead as dead can be!
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27th April 2011, 10:01 PM	#16
The_Fire Unimpressed Female Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: 8th level of Hell - Maleborgia Posts: 3,037	Originally Posted by Aepervius I betcha a gazillon dollar, that some "child" will be found to be his reincarnation, either now or a bit later, and that the scam will go on that way ? Who wanna bet ? Sorry, I don't do sucker bets.....
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27th April 2011, 10:05 PM	#17
plumjam Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Valencia, Spain Posts: 7,837	Ashes to ashes.

28th April 2011, 01:52 AM	#18
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30th April 2011, 02:37 AM	#19
hgc Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,987	One of my closest friends at work is a huge devotee to Sai Baba, and was quite devastated. When she told me the news the other day, I just consoled her and kept my mouth shut about his obvious magical trickery. How do people fall for that? Haven't they seen a hundred different stage magicians do the exact same tricks?
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30th April 2011, 02:47 AM	#20
Zep Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 26,985	Originally Posted by hgc One of my closest friends at work is a huge devotee to Sai Baba, and was quite devastated. When she told me the news the other day, I just consoled her and kept my mouth shut about his obvious magical trickery. How do people fall for that? Haven't they seen a hundred different stage magicians do the exact same tricks? Usually not. They find it easier to accept what they prefer and deny the obvious.
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