Last of the LaHaye series published...

Hutch · 30th March 2004, 10:14 AM

....according to the NY Times yesterday (sorry, no link, I'm still so primitive I actually read the printed page)

For those who don't know, Tim LeHaye has been writing a series of books about the Rapture and apparently is now at the end, with the return of Jesus and punishment for all us sinners. He claims to have taken the book of Revelation and used it based on modern/today history. The leader of the UN is the Antichrist (Gee, Kofi, and you sound like a nice guy, too) and of course terrible things happen to all the atheists in the end--after all, God loves us, remember.

Just a note because while most of us haven't read these books (I know I haven't) many fundamental and evangelical Christians have, and I wonder sometimes what effect they have, if any.

Love to know what's on GWB's reading list.....

Just wondering if anyone has encountered these books more than I have and can comment on them.

Bottle or the Gun · 30th March 2004, 10:22 AM

I'm hopefull the series actually ends. If I see one more 'end-times' movie starring Kirk Cameron and Michael York I'm getting violent.

A post-rapture world would actually be better a better place to live and much more peaceful. Since you and everyone else KNOWS that all the people that are left are total bastards, you can take steps accordingly. I bet it's more polite, since there would be the knowledge that your sinner neighbors will burn you out for playing a stero too loud.

IllegalArgument · 30th March 2004, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hutch
Love to know what's on GWB's reading list.....

Well, obviously the bible would be number one, consider how religous he says he is. The rest is unknown.

Bottle or the Gun · 30th March 2004, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by IllegalArgument

Well, obviously the bible would be number one, consider how religous he says he is. The rest is unknown.

He has books read to him. Fairy Tales, mostly.

30th March 2004, 10:46 AM

Why be at "the end". 1000 years of Jesus ruling (naturally through his 'selected' proxies), then... oh I dunno. Yet another impending rapture?

MLynn · 30th March 2004, 10:51 AM

I have read several of the books, but haven't read any in about 2 years (I'm a Xtian). They were written as fiction based on the Book of Revelation. I would hope that the Xtians who have read them do not take them as "doctorine" or the gospel truth - it's just fiction.

Johnny Pneumatic · 30th March 2004, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MLynn
I would hope that the Xtians who have read them do not take them as "doctorine"

they do though

Quote:

Originally posted by MLynn it's just fiction.

so is Genesis, but thats not stoping these guys. www.icr.org

Marc · 30th March 2004, 11:20 AM

To help those of us sorry to see this series end......... ok, none of us are sorry. Anyway, some of us might be interested in a similar book: Kiss My -- Left Behind

Dragonrock · 30th March 2004, 01:41 PM

I truged my way through the first 100 pages of the first book and found it to be rather poorly written and filled with sterotypes. All the characters seemed one dimensional until they accept christ. I'm reminded of the way characters became colorized in the movie Pleasantville.

phildonnia · 30th March 2004, 01:41 PM

Last of the LaHaye series? Don't count on it.

They said the same thing about the Nightmare on Elm Street movies.

Tricky · 30th March 2004, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MLynn
I have read several of the books, but haven't read any in about 2 years (I'm a Xtian). They were written as fiction based on the Book of Revelation. I would hope that the Xtians who have read them do not take them as "doctorine" or the gospel truth - it's just fiction.

I've had several people (including my brother) recommend this series to me. "You'd like it", they say, "The heroes are all unbelievers!".

Well, not exactly. The heros are all former unbelievers, but boy did they change their tune when the Xtians turned out to be right! (snicker snicker).

So it would seem that one not-so-subtle message pervading the series is, "You wouldn't be in this mess right now if you'd just believed the Bible." It may be good writing, (although a trusted literary friend of mine says the first one is crap and she won't read any more), but I'd have a hard time choking down that bit of preaching that sets up the series.

Dragonrock · 30th March 2004, 02:16 PM

I always wanted to point out that it is the non-believers who do the hard work after the rapture while the christians have run bravely away to hide behind Jesus' skirts.

I think seeing a bunch of people suddenly disappear would count as proof, so yes, I probably would become a believer after the rapture.

MLynn · 30th March 2004, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tricky

I've had several people (including my brother) recommend this series to me. "You'd like it", they say, "The heroes are all unbelievers!".

Well, not exactly. The heros are all former unbelievers, but boy did they change their tune when the Xtians turned out to be right! (snicker snicker).

Tricky, one of the reasons I lost interest in the series was because a whole sub-culture (circus?) developed and played off the books and it turned me off.

phildonnia · 30th March 2004, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tricky

...It may be good writing, (although a trusted literary friend of mine says the first one is crap and she won't read any more...

Let me second that. It's crap writing, and I speak as one who enjoys a good piece of apocalyptic fiction.

Silicon · 30th March 2004, 05:11 PM

Wow,

I remember reading a bit of apocolyptic christian fiction in jr high school, and believing it as if it was the Word of God. Now I wish I could remember the name of it, but it was pretty awful writing. Kind of an irwin-allen type of story, with locusts, the rapture, the sealed jews, all the stuff from revelation.

The story kept jumping around from these different people, like the anti-christ (a big media mogul, IIRC), and some people who converted after millions of people disappeared.

Kind of like some 70's disaster flick, it jumped back and forth between the stories.

The whole story ends at armaggedon, with jesus coming back, and some people in jet fighters proclaiming His return by skywriting crosses with their contrails.

It captured the entire revelations myth very vividly (at least for a 7th grader), and I recall it made me a very angry little jesus freak of a kid for a couple of years. I've been about 4 different religions since then, and finally discarded them all.

Ralph · 30th March 2004, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by evildave
Why be at "the end". 1000 years of Jesus ruling (naturally through his 'selected' proxies), then... oh I dunno. Yet another impending rapture?

I've noticed several of the RR folks who seem to be quite eager to become part Jesus's goon squad.

A kind of Einsatzgruppen for God-----

They'll have an opportunity to act out what's REALLY in their little hearts and all in the name of doing Jesus's work.................

30th March 2004, 07:00 PM

Yeah. A bit sad, really. But never fear!

They don't have to wait for the 'rapture' to do this: they can just work away feverishly to get an official state religion passed. Make it the 'United States of Southern Rapture Baptists' (USSR-B), and round up all the people who don't think the way JESUS likes them to and send 'em all to 'camps' in... Alaska! They'll need lots of bodies to dig six-foot deep trenches... for oil.

Then they can turn to spreading Jesus Christ's message (as interpreted by the Southern Baptist Congress) to all the heathens of the world.

Maybe set up some 'satellite' states, like Iraq, to form a 'Buffer of Belief' around the unbelievers.

Some Friggin Guy · 30th March 2004, 08:58 PM

I have not read the books, but I got tricked into watching the first movie a few years back. There is something that I found REALLY amusing.

The antichrist character has, by the end of the movie, ended the religious feuding in the middle east, ended world hunger, stopped crime through peaceful means and basically eliminated poverty. Yet, for some odd reason, the main character's think he's a real bad guy.

I don't know, if I were a christian, I'd have recommended him for sainthood.

ceo_esq · 31st March 2004, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hutch
Love to know what's on GWB's reading list.....

I don't think his reading tastes include novels. I've seen some of his reading lists published, and and they were all historical biography and political science works, plus a couple of classic devotional works such as My Utmost for His Highest.

Luciano · 31st March 2004, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dragonrock
I think seeing a bunch of people suddenly disappear would count as proof, so yes, I probably would become a believer after the rapture.

I could start to believe in the christian god but I couldn't start to worship the lazy moron!

Quote:

Originally posted by Some Friggin Guy
I have not read the books, but I got tricked into watching the first movie a few years back. There is something that I found REALLY amusing.
The antichrist character has, by the end of the movie, ended the religious feuding in the middle east, ended world hunger, stopped crime through peaceful means and basically eliminated poverty. Yet, for some odd reason, the main character's think he's a real bad guy.
I don't know, if I were a christian, I'd have recommended him for sainthood.

YEP!

Luciano

Tricky · 31st March 2004, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ceo_esq
I don't think his reading tastes include novels. I've seen some of his reading lists published, and and they were all historical biography and political science works, plus a couple of classic devotional works such as My Utmost for His Highest.

Kinky Friedman was on the radio the other day, and he said that GWB had told him that HE (Friedman) was his favorite author. Well, we all know politicians lie, but Bush did invite him to the White House.

Hexxenhammer · 31st March 2004, 07:04 AM

My sister reads them, and so does my sister in law. I choked down the first couple of chapters of the first book one time while visiting my sister. It was obvious from that small reading that all the unbeliever characters were immoral simply because they weren't chrisitian. Once they become christian, they become moral. That's not the way it works and I'll punch anyone in the face that thinks otherwise.

sackett · 31st March 2004, 10:03 AM

If Jesus comes back after the lickin' Mel Glibson says he got, he's going to be seriously PO'd. I picture Him wearing a leather jacket, swinging a piece of chain, and stinking like a wet bear! If you so much as look sideways, you'll wake up in the middle of next week all over plaster and wire like a new chicken-house! Jesus won't carry no briefcase nor wear no white shirt & tie!

Edited to add: Praise the Lord! Glory jee to Bezus!

Yahweh · 31st March 2004, 02:43 PM

If there are any authors out there, I recommend writing a book about a Christian turning to atheism, and the kind of treatment this person recieves from his fellow fundamentalists and atheist friends.

The book will no doubt be viewed as "Contraversial", and contraversy sells.

Bottle or the Gun · 1st April 2004, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dragonrock
I always wanted to point out that it is the non-believers who do the hard work after the rapture while the christians have run bravely away to hide behind Jesus' skirts.

I think seeing a bunch of people suddenly disappear would count as proof, so yes, I probably would become a believer after the rapture.

Actually, I think they all just hide when you come around, just to mess with your head. Kind of like when furriners speak gibberish. You just know the second you leave they go right back to speaking english with an Alabama drawl and laugh at you.

(Check the DVD section of any WalMart for the $5 remainder bin, and you will see scads of those movies...'Left Behind'.)

30th March 2004, 10:14 AM	#1
Hutch A broken man on a Halifax pier, the last of Barrett's Privateers Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: About 7 Miles from the Saturn 5B Posts: 6,533	Last of the LaHaye series published... ....according to the NY Times yesterday (sorry, no link, I'm still so primitive I actually read the printed page) For those who don't know, Tim LeHaye has been writing a series of books about the Rapture and apparently is now at the end, with the return of Jesus and punishment for all us sinners. He claims to have taken the book of Revelation and used it based on modern/today history. The leader of the UN is the Antichrist (Gee, Kofi, and you sound like a nice guy, too) and of course terrible things happen to all the atheists in the end--after all, God loves us, remember. Just a note because while most of us haven't read these books (I know I haven't) many fundamental and evangelical Christians have, and I wonder sometimes what effect they have, if any. Love to know what's on GWB's reading list..... Just wondering if anyone has encountered these books more than I have and can comment on them.
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30th March 2004, 10:22 AM	#2
Bottle or the Gun Muse Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 890	I'm hopefull the series actually ends. If I see one more 'end-times' movie starring Kirk Cameron and Michael York I'm getting violent. A post-rapture world would actually be better a better place to live and much more peaceful. Since you and everyone else KNOWS that all the people that are left are total bastards, you can take steps accordingly. I bet it's more polite, since there would be the knowledge that your sinner neighbors will burn you out for playing a stero too loud.
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30th March 2004, 10:35 AM	#3
IllegalArgument Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Reston, VA Posts: 1,757	Re: Last of the LaHaye series published... Quote: Originally posted by Hutch Love to know what's on GWB's reading list..... Well, obviously the bible would be number one, consider how religous he says he is. The rest is unknown.

30th March 2004, 10:41 AM	#4
Bottle or the Gun Muse Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 890	Re: Re: Last of the LaHaye series published... Quote: Originally posted by IllegalArgument Well, obviously the bible would be number one, consider how religous he says he is. The rest is unknown. He has books read to him. Fairy Tales, mostly.
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30th March 2004, 10:46 AM	#5
evildave Guest Posts: n/a	Why be at "the end". 1000 years of Jesus ruling (naturally through his 'selected' proxies), then... oh I dunno. Yet another impending rapture?
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30th March 2004, 10:51 AM	#6
MLynn Whippet of Peace Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,625	I have read several of the books, but haven't read any in about 2 years (I'm a Xtian). They were written as fiction based on the Book of Revelation. I would hope that the Xtians who have read them do not take them as "doctorine" or the gospel truth - it's just fiction.
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30th March 2004, 11:09 AM	#7
Johnny Pneumatic Corpuscle Clay Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,089	Quote: Originally posted by MLynn I would hope that the Xtians who have read them do not take them as "doctorine" they do though Quote: Originally posted by MLynn it's just fiction. so is Genesis, but thats not stoping these guys. www.icr.org
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30th March 2004, 11:20 AM	#8
Marc Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,165	To help those of us sorry to see this series end......... ok, none of us are sorry. Anyway, some of us might be interested in a similar book: Kiss My -- Left Behind
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30th March 2004, 01:41 PM	#9
Dragonrock Militant Elvisian Tacoist Join Date: May 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 9,856	I truged my way through the first 100 pages of the first book and found it to be rather poorly written and filled with sterotypes. All the characters seemed one dimensional until they accept christ. I'm reminded of the way characters became colorized in the movie Pleasantville.
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30th March 2004, 01:41 PM	#10
phildonnia Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Sac'to CA Posts: 2,339	Last of the LaHaye series? Don't count on it. They said the same thing about the Nightmare on Elm Street movies.

30th March 2004, 01:58 PM	#11
Tricky Briefly immortal Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Group W bench Posts: 42,345	Quote: Originally posted by MLynn I have read several of the books, but haven't read any in about 2 years (I'm a Xtian). They were written as fiction based on the Book of Revelation. I would hope that the Xtians who have read them do not take them as "doctorine" or the gospel truth - it's just fiction. I've had several people (including my brother) recommend this series to me. "You'd like it", they say, "The heroes are all unbelievers!". Well, not exactly. The heros are all former unbelievers, but boy did they change their tune when the Xtians turned out to be right! (snicker snicker). So it would seem that one not-so-subtle message pervading the series is, "You wouldn't be in this mess right now if you'd just believed the Bible." It may be good writing, (although a trusted literary friend of mine says the first one is crap and she won't read any more), but I'd have a hard time choking down that bit of preaching that sets up the series.

30th March 2004, 02:16 PM	#12
Dragonrock Militant Elvisian Tacoist Join Date: May 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 9,856	I always wanted to point out that it is the non-believers who do the hard work after the rapture while the christians have run bravely away to hide behind Jesus' skirts. I think seeing a bunch of people suddenly disappear would count as proof, so yes, I probably would become a believer after the rapture.
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30th March 2004, 02:18 PM	#13
MLynn Whippet of Peace Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,625	Quote: Originally posted by Tricky I've had several people (including my brother) recommend this series to me. "You'd like it", they say, "The heroes are all unbelievers!". Well, not exactly. The heros are all former unbelievers, but boy did they change their tune when the Xtians turned out to be right! (snicker snicker). Tricky, one of the reasons I lost interest in the series was because a whole sub-culture (circus?) developed and played off the books and it turned me off.
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30th March 2004, 04:33 PM	#14
phildonnia Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Sac'to CA Posts: 2,339	Quote: Originally posted by Tricky ...It may be good writing, (although a trusted literary friend of mine says the first one is crap and she won't read any more... Let me second that. It's crap writing, and I speak as one who enjoys a good piece of apocalyptic fiction.

30th March 2004, 05:11 PM	#15
Silicon Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,644	Wow, I remember reading a bit of apocolyptic christian fiction in jr high school, and believing it as if it was the Word of God. Now I wish I could remember the name of it, but it was pretty awful writing. Kind of an irwin-allen type of story, with locusts, the rapture, the sealed jews, all the stuff from revelation. The story kept jumping around from these different people, like the anti-christ (a big media mogul, IIRC), and some people who converted after millions of people disappeared. Kind of like some 70's disaster flick, it jumped back and forth between the stories. The whole story ends at armaggedon, with jesus coming back, and some people in jet fighters proclaiming His return by skywriting crosses with their contrails. It captured the entire revelations myth very vividly (at least for a 7th grader), and I recall it made me a very angry little jesus freak of a kid for a couple of years. I've been about 4 different religions since then, and finally discarded them all.
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30th March 2004, 06:46 PM	#16
Ralph Muse Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: S.E. Mass....... Posts: 997	Quote: Originally posted by evildave Why be at "the end". 1000 years of Jesus ruling (naturally through his 'selected' proxies), then... oh I dunno. Yet another impending rapture? I've noticed several of the RR folks who seem to be quite eager to become part Jesus's goon squad. A kind of Einsatzgruppen for God----- They'll have an opportunity to act out what's REALLY in their little hearts and all in the name of doing Jesus's work.................

30th March 2004, 07:00 PM	#17
evildave Guest Posts: n/a	Yeah. A bit sad, really. But never fear! They don't have to wait for the 'rapture' to do this: they can just work away feverishly to get an official state religion passed. Make it the 'United States of Southern Rapture Baptists' (USSR-B), and round up all the people who don't think the way JESUS likes them to and send 'em all to 'camps' in... Alaska! They'll need lots of bodies to dig six-foot deep trenches... for oil. Then they can turn to spreading Jesus Christ's message (as interpreted by the Southern Baptist Congress) to all the heathens of the world. Maybe set up some 'satellite' states, like Iraq, to form a 'Buffer of Belief' around the unbelievers.
evildave Guest Posts: n/a

30th March 2004, 08:58 PM	#18
Some Friggin Guy Muse Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 860	I have not read the books, but I got tricked into watching the first movie a few years back. There is something that I found REALLY amusing. The antichrist character has, by the end of the movie, ended the religious feuding in the middle east, ended world hunger, stopped crime through peaceful means and basically eliminated poverty. Yet, for some odd reason, the main character's think he's a real bad guy. I don't know, if I were a christian, I'd have recommended him for sainthood.
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31st March 2004, 06:19 AM	#19
ceo_esq Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 4,940	Re: Last of the LaHaye series published... Quote: Originally posted by Hutch Love to know what's on GWB's reading list..... I don't think his reading tastes include novels. I've seen some of his reading lists published, and and they were all historical biography and political science works, plus a couple of classic devotional works such as My Utmost for His Highest.
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31st March 2004, 06:53 AM	#20
Luciano Student Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Milano, Italy Posts: 32	Quote: Originally posted by Dragonrock I think seeing a bunch of people suddenly disappear would count as proof, so yes, I probably would become a believer after the rapture. I could start to believe in the christian god but I couldn't start to worship the lazy moron! Quote: Originally posted by Some Friggin Guy I have not read the books, but I got tricked into watching the first movie a few years back. There is something that I found REALLY amusing. The antichrist character has, by the end of the movie, ended the religious feuding in the middle east, ended world hunger, stopped crime through peaceful means and basically eliminated poverty. Yet, for some odd reason, the main character's think he's a real bad guy. I don't know, if I were a christian, I'd have recommended him for sainthood. YEP! Luciano
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31st March 2004, 06:53 AM	#21
Tricky Briefly immortal Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Group W bench Posts: 42,345	GWB's reading list Quote: Originally posted by ceo_esq I don't think his reading tastes include novels. I've seen some of his reading lists published, and and they were all historical biography and political science works, plus a couple of classic devotional works such as My Utmost for His Highest. Kinky Friedman was on the radio the other day, and he said that GWB had told him that HE (Friedman) was his favorite author. Well, we all know politicians lie, but Bush did invite him to the White House.

31st March 2004, 07:04 AM	#22
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31st March 2004, 10:03 AM	#23
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31st March 2004, 02:43 PM	#24
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1st April 2004, 04:26 AM	#25
Bottle or the Gun Muse Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 890	Quote: Originally posted by Dragonrock I always wanted to point out that it is the non-believers who do the hard work after the rapture while the christians have run bravely away to hide behind Jesus' skirts. I think seeing a bunch of people suddenly disappear would count as proof, so yes, I probably would become a believer after the rapture. Actually, I think they all just hide when you come around, just to mess with your head. Kind of like when furriners speak gibberish. You just know the second you leave they go right back to speaking english with an Alabama drawl and laugh at you. (Check the DVD section of any WalMart for the $5 remainder bin, and you will see scads of those movies...'Left Behind'.)
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