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Old 22nd May 2011, 05:50 AM   #1
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Harold Camping Dead At 89

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Harold Camping died peacefully in his sleep today at six o'clock local time aged 89 years of age. He had become world famous in recent minutes for his astonishing prediction that his End Of Days was approaching.

His legacy on planet earth will be that for a period of 78 seconds on May 21st 2011 his name was entered into Google search engines worldwide more times than the words "barely", "legal"and "anal".
Ha got you, but I predict it's going to get very real for him
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But really, what do you think should happen to him now, its a pity that being a false prophet isn't a crime thesedays, but what about his responsibility for any who killed themselves yesterday because of his broadcasts..
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Old 22nd May 2011, 06:20 AM   #2
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Did anyone kill themselves yesterday because of his broadcasts? If so, please provide links.
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Old 22nd May 2011, 06:24 AM   #3
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Old 22nd May 2011, 06:37 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by Bill Glazier View Post
So, we have one story of a man in Nairobi who committed suicide in a church.

The original linked report says, "The body was found at 9 a.m. Police took it away. The man’s identity, age or reasons for taking his own life could not be immediately established."
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Man+fou...0/-/hvpqpfz/-/

Laughable. By my count, no one committed suicide on Camping's account.
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Old 22nd May 2011, 06:40 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by Dumb All Over View Post
Laughable. By my count, no one committed suicide on Camping's account.
A mother attempted to cut her two daughters throats on Campings account
why is that laughable ?


besides, we're only into the first few hours of the non rapture. Give it time to sink in, it'll happen, in 1994 after Campings last attempt there was at least one suicide, mind you that was in New Jersey

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Old 22nd May 2011, 06:49 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Marduk View Post
A mother attempted to cut her two daughters throats on Campings account
why is that laughable ?

It is laughable because you are trying to nudge people into a false belief that she committed suicide. She did not. She is quite alive.
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Old 22nd May 2011, 06:54 AM   #7
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Ok, so it's just an attempted double murder, not a suicide. I'm sure that makes it much better
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Camping-induced suicides = ZERO.
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Originally Posted by Dumb All Over View Post
Camping-induced suicides = ZERO.
Camping induced stupidity - off the scale.
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Originally Posted by Nogbad View Post
Camping induced stupidity - off the scale.
Indeed.
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Old 22nd May 2011, 07:09 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by Dumb All Over View Post
It is laughable because you are trying to nudge people into a false belief that she committed suicide. She did not. She is quite alive.
The link states that she survived, where did I say otherwise ?
hostility noted though, whats your vested interest in Harold Camping not facing responsibility for his actions, if you were responsible for a mother attempting to kill her daughters, where do you think you'd be right now
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but what about his responsibility for any who killed themselves yesterday because of his broadcasts..
I'm expecting it, but I was asking a broader question, what percentage of culpability should he be responsible for any act caused by his deliberate scaremongering ?

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I wish I had the finances to put up giant bill boards about this guys prediction, how if fell on it's face -- with the question


What makes you thing YOUR delusion is any more accurate? In front of every church
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Old 22nd May 2011, 07:16 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by Marduk View Post
The link states that she survived, where did I say otherwise ?

I'm expecting it, but I was asking a broader question, what culpability should he be responsible for any act caused by his scaremongering ?
I think you are jumping the gun. By expecting someone to commit suicide because this lame prophet's prediction didn't come true is to give that prophet way more credit than he deserves. I don't think a single person will commit suicide over this. I could be wrong. I hope I am right.
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Originally Posted by Dumb All Over View Post
It is laughable because you are trying to nudge people into a false belief that she committed suicide. She did not. She is quite alive.
Murder of two innocent children = not laughable.

Attempted murder of two innocent children = laughable.


Is that about the gist of it?
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Originally Posted by Marduk View Post
hostility noted though, whats your vested interest in Harold Camping not facing responsibility for his actions, if you were responsible for a mother attempting to kill her daughters, where do you think you'd be right now
My interest is in establishing facts. No one committed suicide.
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Originally Posted by Foster Zygote View Post
Attempted murder of two innocent children = laughable.
Did I say that? I don't think so.
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Originally Posted by Dumb All Over View Post
My interest is in establishing facts. No one committed suicide.
1 man killed himself after Campings 1994 debacle, the 2011 debacle was much more publicised
Camping has/had 200 million followers
you really sure that they will all be here tomorrow/next week/next month then I'd like to see your sources
I have not claimed anyone killed themselves, I'm asking what should happen to him if they do

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The point being DAO, Camping will never have to answer for anything because he uses “Jesus” as a punctuation mark.
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Originally Posted by Marduk View Post
1 man killed himself after Campings 1994 debacle, the 2011 debacle was much more publicised
Camping has/had 200 million followers
you really sure that they will all be here tomorrow/next week/next month then I'd like to see your sources
Statistically, it would be hard to imagine that, out of 200 million people, some won't die within the next month. It may end up being true that one or two of these deaths may be caused by suicide. Only then can we begin to establish whether the suicides are in any way attributable to the actions of this goofball preacher.
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I'm kinda pissed that the rapture didn't come yesterday. Not because I didn't get raptured, I think we all knew that wasn't going to happen, but my very religious buddy who definitely would have been raptured, said I could have his PS3 if he got whisked away.

Screw you, Harold Camping.
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Originally Posted by Dumb All Over View Post
Statistically, it would be hard to imagine that, out of 200 million people, some won't die within the next month. It may end up being true that one or two of these deaths may be caused by suicide. Only then can we begin to establish whether the suicides are in any way attributable to the actions of this goofball preacher.
and when that happens this thread will still be here, I'm figuring that there's statistically quite a few who just haven't been discovered yet, case in point the double attempted murdering mother would not have been discovered yet if the home owner hadn't come home unexpectedly and foiled her, that would be 2 murders and one suicide

Not everyone who kills themselves does it in a public place, the reverse is actually true.
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...case in point the double attempted murdering mother would not have been discovered yet if the home owner hadn't come home unexpectedly and foiled her, that would be 2 murders and one suicide
I cannot necessarily agree with this. I believe all throats had been cut before the home owner arrived. Did you see her mugshot? There is not so much as even a band-aid covering her wound. Pretty lame suicide attempt if you ask me.
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Originally Posted by Marduk View Post
http://archie-templar.blogspot.com/2...ead-at-89.html


Ha got you, but I predict it's going to get very real for him
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But really, what do you think should happen to him now, its a pity that being a false prophet isn't a crime thesedays, but what about his responsibility for any who killed themselves yesterday because of his broadcasts..
His death is reported on one blog by a comic book writer? And that's the only reference I can find.

I'm throwing the BS flag on the report of Camping's death unless someone can come up with better proof than one random blog.
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I cannot necessarily agree with this. I believe all throats had been cut before the home owner arrived. Did you see her mugshot? There is not so much as even a band-aid covering her wound. Pretty lame suicide attempt if you ask me.
who do you think called the ambulance.
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His death is reported on one blog by a comic book writer? And that's the only reference I can find.
I'm throwing the BS flag on the report of Camping's death unless someone can come up with better proof than one random blog.
Dude, the blog intimated it was a spoof by its content being generally humourous
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Originally Posted by ApolloGnomon View Post
His death is reported on one blog by a comic book writer? And that's the only reference I can find.

I'm throwing the BS flag on the report of Camping's death unless someone can come up with better proof than one random blog.
Ditto. As soon as I saw the thread title, I typed Harold Camping Dead into google and came back with nada.

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Ditto. As soon as I saw the thread title, I typed Harold Camping Dead into google and came back with nada.

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Originally Posted by Marduk View Post
who do you think called the ambulance.
I'm guessing it was the homeowner. Am I right?
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I'm guessing it was the homeowner. Am I right?
Yes, after coming home unexpectedly and finding the three of them in her garage, she was apparently a friend and the Mother had gone there specifically because she thought it would be empty
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D'oh. I didn't bother reading the article linked to in the OP because of a content warning.
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Yes, after coming home unexpectedly and finding the three of them in her garage, she was apparently a friend and the Mother had gone there specifically because she thought it would be empty
But what you are intimating is that if the homeowner had not shown up, we would now have three dead bodies. This is the part I can't necessarily agree with, given that the dastardly act had been committed before the homeowner arrived, and that the previously inflicted wounds didn't kill anyone.
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But what you are intimating is that if the homeowner had not shown up, we would now have three dead bodies. .
I'm not intimating anything, those details were in the news report,

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This is the part I can't necessarily agree with, given that the dastardly act had been committed before the homeowner arrived, and that the previously inflicted wounds didn't kill anyone.
The children were taken away by ambulance, I guess it was just a tiny cut

you want to ask someone qualified what will likely result from untended box cutter wounds to childrens necks ?
I'll find you a doctor if you like !
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Old 22nd May 2011, 08:54 AM   #32
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Originally Posted by Marduk View Post
I'm not intimating anything, those details were in the news report,
The news report said that if the homeowner had not shown up we would now have three dead bodies?!? I must have missed that part.
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Old 22nd May 2011, 08:56 AM   #33
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Originally Posted by Dumb All Over View Post
The news report said that if the homeowner had not shown up we would now have three dead bodies?!? I must have missed that part.
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Old 22nd May 2011, 08:57 AM   #34
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Originally Posted by Marduk View Post
Camping has/had 200 million followers
Source? I think you're actually misinterpreting something that his followers were saying, but I'd like to know what you're basing this statement on rather than guess.
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Old 22nd May 2011, 09:02 AM   #35
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Originally Posted by Dumb All Over View Post
Did I say that? I don't think so.
You've come dangerously close to doing so. It is clear that Harold Camping's nonsense has led to a horrible event that will, literally and psychologically, scar two young girls for life. The fact that they didn't die as a result of their mother's fear driven actions doesn't make the event count any less as evidence that Harold Camping has caused harm to others.
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Old 22nd May 2011, 09:03 AM   #37
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Originally Posted by Marduk View Post
definitely missed something
Please enlighten me. Show me where in the report it says we would have three dead bodies had the homeowner not shown up.
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Originally Posted by Foster Zygote View Post
You've come dangerously close to doing so.
Nope, sorry. Didn't say it. Didn't come close to meaning it.
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Originally Posted by Dumb All Over View Post
Camping-induced suicides = ZERO.
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Originally Posted by Foster Zygote View Post
The fact that they didn't die as a result of their mother's fear driven actions doesn't make the event count any less as evidence that Harold Camping has caused harm to others.
This thread was opened on the presumption that Camping's recent actions have caused or will cause someone to commit suicide. So far, there are no reports that anyone has done so. I believe none will and hope to FSM I'm right.
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